| -Poverty in America: the Old and the New |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 04:12 PM |
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You are right on maryf... |
dajoki |
Jan-16-09 04:29 PM |
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Thanks Dajoki |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 04:33 PM |
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There is a difference however |
shintao |
Jan-16-09 09:02 PM |
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YEs, indeed--decades of being beaten down will do that to a person. |
bobbolink |
Jan-16-09 10:45 PM |
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I think it depends |
JNelson6563 |
Jan-17-09 11:39 AM |
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I agree, bobbo. |
I Have A Dream |
Jan-17-09 12:00 PM |
#130 |
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You have said it exactly right! And it bears repeating! |
bobbolink |
Jan-17-09 12:17 PM |
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You have been my inspiration... |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 12:05 PM |
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That is... |
dajoki |
Jan-17-09 12:30 AM |
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"I am now supposed to be happy with the crumbs I can find" reminds me... |
stlsaxman |
Jan-17-09 07:23 AM |
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You speak of signs and wonders |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 12:09 PM |
#133 |
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Thanks for posting that. I'm glad there are poets and musicians paying attention! |
bobbolink |
Jan-17-09 12:15 PM |
#137 |
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This is exactly the position that my partner and I find ourselves in now. |
jhrobbins |
Jan-17-09 02:33 PM |
#154 |
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Maybe but ... |
mntleo2 |
Jan-17-09 02:32 AM |
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mntleo2... |
I Have A Dream |
Jan-17-09 06:14 PM |
#173 |
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Cat this deserves its own thread |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 09:46 PM |
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It's assumed people can walk away from McJobs |
Tindalos |
Jan-18-09 11:39 PM |
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I have to disagree |
Two Americas |
Jan-17-09 04:40 AM |
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k&r this reply |
cornermouse |
Jan-17-09 10:08 AM |
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Second recommendation for this post! |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 11:37 AM |
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well said. the reason 20% of the population requires state subsidy to survive isn't |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-18-09 01:45 AM |
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Wonderful post- gee where shall I start |
Ocracoker16 |
Jan-18-09 05:35 PM |
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hi Ocracoker16 |
Two Americas |
Jan-18-09 08:14 PM |
#201 |
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You are so right. |
Naturyl |
Jan-21-09 05:24 PM |
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Happy to be ticking along? |
Baby Snooks |
Jan-17-09 09:19 AM |
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I doubt that I would find much happiness and fulfillment |
cornermouse |
Jan-17-09 10:11 AM |
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Great response!! |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 11:28 AM |
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I've been rich and I've been poor... |
Baby Snooks |
Jan-17-09 02:38 PM |
#155 |
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Hear, hear! |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 02:53 PM |
#156 |
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You brought me to tears ... |
mntleo2 |
Jan-18-09 02:40 AM |
#184 |
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Hey Cat |
maryf |
Jan-18-09 09:08 AM |
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a must read, K&R |
G_j |
Jan-16-09 04:32 PM |
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I wish all Americans |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 04:35 PM |
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K+R |
angrycarpenter |
Jan-16-09 04:35 PM |
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Its a tough issue to look at... |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 04:37 PM |
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I believe that is because... |
dajoki |
Jan-16-09 04:53 PM |
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I think it's because it's depressing. Especially for those that |
Fire1 |
Jan-16-09 06:43 PM |
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Of course |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 07:00 PM |
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Yes it is n/t |
dajoki |
Jan-17-09 12:37 AM |
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You're right and I also think it's because some folks honestly don't know what to do |
Number23 |
Jan-16-09 11:31 PM |
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We have to help them know.. |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 12:21 PM |
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Thank you so much, angrycarpenter! We're VERY TIRED of being IGNORED! |
bobbolink |
Jan-16-09 05:00 PM |
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Everybody deserves attention!! |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 05:25 PM |
#24 |
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Read and bookmarked. |
azmouse |
Jan-16-09 04:38 PM |
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Yes it does... |
dajoki |
Jan-16-09 04:44 PM |
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Same here in San Bernardino, even in the "nice" part of town. |
Raksha |
Jan-16-09 05:45 PM |
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What is considered the nice part of town these days in San Bernardino? |
Cleita |
Jan-19-09 03:58 PM |
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In Miami there was a man who was doing that... |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 05:12 PM |
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Wanna see that article, Mary! NEED that article, Mary! |
bobbolink |
Jan-16-09 08:06 PM |
#64 |
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Right below here!! |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 11:39 AM |
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Here's the article where homeless into empty houses works... |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 06:27 PM |
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The damned bailout was even more destructive than I thought :( |
varelse |
Jan-16-09 08:29 PM |
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I noticed that too when I read the article. |
Raksha |
Jan-17-09 12:51 AM |
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Money and property |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 11:41 AM |
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LOL! I agree, but think about this: |
mntleo2 |
Jan-17-09 12:10 PM |
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damn |
Two Americas |
Jan-18-09 08:22 PM |
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Working Poor |
send in the clowns |
Jan-16-09 04:42 PM |
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Well said... |
dajoki |
Jan-16-09 04:50 PM |
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"If a homeis warm in the winter,has a roof that doesn't leak etc it's a castle" |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 11:46 AM |
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My depression era parents told me ... |
mntleo2 |
Jan-17-09 12:29 PM |
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Very important points.. but please also remember.. those of us not working are also humans, |
bobbolink |
Jan-17-09 12:40 PM |
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K&R |
blindpig |
Jan-16-09 04:53 PM |
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People are people are people... |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 05:16 PM |
#18 |
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Your essay was well worth the read, but |
varelse |
Jan-16-09 08:12 PM |
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Answers are most often simple |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 08:25 PM |
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As a matter of fact, they are likely to be less naturally spiritual. |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jan-16-09 06:00 PM |
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From the sermon on the mount |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 06:22 PM |
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I believe the words of The Sermon on the Mount are widely held to be |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jan-16-09 06:34 PM |
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The Beatitudes |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 06:54 PM |
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That's beautiful. |
Tindalos |
Jan-16-09 07:52 PM |
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Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after justice... |
JeffR |
Jan-17-09 12:22 AM |
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I won't be full... |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 12:14 PM |
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It would be nice to feel the "blessed" part.... |
bobbolink |
Jan-21-09 01:13 PM |
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Thank you Mary for taking the time to write this - |
1776Forever |
Jan-16-09 04:55 PM |
#13 |
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That is so wrong... |
dajoki |
Jan-16-09 05:06 PM |
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Thanks for the post - You are so right on! |
1776Forever |
Jan-16-09 05:26 PM |
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I hope it KEEPS getting better |
dajoki |
Jan-16-09 05:48 PM |
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Healthcare is a huge cause |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 05:20 PM |
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Yes so true - One day I hope we really do help the least of these for real! |
1776Forever |
Jan-16-09 05:27 PM |
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Here's an article I just got on single payer healthcare |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 05:56 PM |
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Please help us by working for low-income housing!!! |
bobbolink |
Jan-16-09 05:57 PM |
#41 |
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Housing is such a critical issue to be addressed... |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 07:04 PM |
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I'm so glad your son is doing better. |
illuminaughty |
Jan-17-09 01:18 AM |
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K & R |
JeffR |
Jan-16-09 05:07 PM |
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Thanks JeffR! |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 05:22 PM |
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K&R! |
redqueen |
Jan-16-09 05:20 PM |
#20 |
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K&R! |
smokey nj |
Jan-16-09 05:20 PM |
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Poverty in America is a great shame of this nation. rec'd |
mod mom |
Jan-16-09 05:24 PM |
#23 |
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They are the exact words I use |
dajoki |
Jan-16-09 05:50 PM |
#38 |
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You are too a writer and a fine one |
skygazer |
Jan-16-09 05:37 PM |
#27 |
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I'm sorry for what you've been through... and so much appreciate your compassion! |
bobbolink |
Jan-16-09 05:45 PM |
#34 |
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Absolutely people are people |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 05:47 PM |
#35 |
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People keep saying the "new homeless" will change the US homeless awareness....WRONG! |
bobbolink |
Jan-16-09 05:38 PM |
#28 |
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You are so right... |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 05:44 PM |
#32 |
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K & R, and bookmarked to read later when I can give this the attention it deserves. |
Raksha |
Jan-16-09 05:39 PM |
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Thank you, Raksha |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 08:09 PM |
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excellent |
Two Americas |
Jan-16-09 05:40 PM |
#30 |
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Back atya! |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 05:51 PM |
#39 |
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K&R! n/t |
junofeb |
Jan-16-09 05:43 PM |
#31 |
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Endorsed, kicked, and recommended. |
Old Crusoe |
Jan-16-09 05:49 PM |
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hey OC |
Two Americas |
Jan-16-09 05:57 PM |
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Hi, Two Americas. I think we've been on the same page for |
Old Crusoe |
Jan-16-09 05:59 PM |
#44 |
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Just one quibble ... |
NanceGreggs |
Jan-16-09 05:57 PM |
#43 |
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Thanks Nance!! |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 06:12 PM |
#46 |
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It is long past time that we regroup and realize FDR's standard of "Four Freedoms" |
TahitiNut |
Jan-16-09 06:17 PM |
#47 |
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When the "wealth" of a society |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 06:59 PM |
#55 |
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"Freedom from Want" -- what a unique concept! |
bobbolink |
Jan-16-09 08:11 PM |
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Also from FDR ... “The Economic Bill of Rights” |
TahitiNut |
Jan-16-09 09:35 PM |
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"All of these rights spell security" - yes. & that's what's important, v. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-17-09 02:49 AM |
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Kick! |
JeffR |
Jan-16-09 06:39 PM |
#51 |
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poverty affects everything.... |
smorgma |
Jan-16-09 06:59 PM |
#54 |
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Thanks for the words of truth... |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 07:02 PM |
#57 |
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Great OP- Thanks Mary! |
MartyL |
Jan-16-09 07:03 PM |
#58 |
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I'm afraid the death noll is sounding |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 07:07 PM |
#60 |
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From the time of the Revolution to the present, ordinary Americans |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-16-09 07:11 PM |
#61 |
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You're words are always inspirational |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 07:20 PM |
#62 |
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I'm just reading in another thread where some 52-lb 8-yr-old asberger's girl was arrested |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-16-09 10:41 PM |
#87 |
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another sad indication of the loss of heart in society... |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 03:03 PM |
#157 |
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Oops! Posted in the wrong place. |
Cleita |
Jan-19-09 04:06 PM |
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Great writing, Mary |
Tindalos |
Jan-16-09 08:10 PM |
#66 |
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So glad you've caught the others... |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 08:21 PM |
#69 |
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you know what |
on the EDGE |
Jan-16-09 08:33 PM |
#72 |
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Giving from need... |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 09:53 PM |
#80 |
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Auto K&R. |
greyhound1966 |
Jan-16-09 08:35 PM |
#73 |
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That is a really good point... |
dajoki |
Jan-17-09 12:56 AM |
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Nice work, Mary! |
Number23 |
Jan-16-09 09:10 PM |
#75 |
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Thanks! |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 09:55 PM |
#81 |
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So many wonderful points and comments...what can I add? |
Journalgrrl |
Jan-16-09 09:14 PM |
#76 |
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What can you add? |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 10:26 PM |
#84 |
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thanks Mary |
Journalgrrl |
Jan-16-09 10:41 PM |
#88 |
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Thats so insane! |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 11:27 PM |
#90 |
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Uhhh yeah that is exactly what a DSHS worker would tell you ... |
mntleo2 |
Jan-17-09 02:44 AM |
#104 |
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Action repeated |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 11:16 AM |
#119 |
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Dear Heart: |
mntleo2 |
Jan-18-09 09:45 AM |
#187 |
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Capitalism Creates Poverty |
shintao |
Jan-16-09 09:34 PM |
#77 |
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Socialism is the humane system |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 10:05 PM |
#82 |
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K&R |
Blue_In_AK |
Jan-16-09 09:41 PM |
#79 |
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Links to other Poverty in America articles by JeffR and Hannah Bell here |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 10:16 PM |
#83 |
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Thanks for posting the links. |
Tindalos |
Jan-17-09 01:05 AM |
#100 |
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Thanks for the links Mary... |
dajoki |
Jan-17-09 01:07 AM |
#101 |
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It seems like every generation has to re-learn the lessons missed by the previous one. |
ColbertWatcher |
Jan-16-09 10:29 PM |
#85 |
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Excellent post! |
JNelson6563 |
Jan-16-09 10:30 PM |
#86 |
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K&R |
leftstreet |
Jan-16-09 11:56 PM |
#92 |
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kicking for the nite shift |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-17-09 12:31 AM |
#95 |
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An artist AND a writer! Beautiful piece. K&R |
illuminaughty |
Jan-17-09 12:49 AM |
#97 |
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Excellent writing. We must roll back Welfare Reform. |
Artiechoke |
Jan-17-09 04:57 AM |
#107 |
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K&R Mary |
caseycoon |
Jan-17-09 06:14 AM |
#108 |
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Glad you like it! |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 06:23 AM |
#109 |
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A superb post |
malaise |
Jan-17-09 06:30 AM |
#110 |
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Morning kick n/t |
blindpig |
Jan-17-09 07:15 AM |
#111 |
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Kick |
machI |
Jan-17-09 07:48 AM |
#113 |
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Such a great OP, by a writer and artist. |
Bluenorthwest |
Jan-17-09 08:44 AM |
#114 |
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Thanks!! |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 01:00 PM |
#146 |
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Error: You've already recommended that thread. |
Tindalos |
Jan-17-09 10:49 AM |
#118 |
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Thanks for shooting for two recs!!! |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 11:19 AM |
#120 |
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yeah, me too! |
bobbolink |
Jan-17-09 11:38 AM |
#124 |
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RE: "The dead and desperate of the Gulf Coast... |
cliffordu |
Jan-17-09 11:28 AM |
#122 |
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Wonderful post. Absolutely wonderful. Which reminded me of something. |
acmavm |
Jan-17-09 11:50 AM |
#129 |
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Yours is a wonderful post!!! Should be its own OP!! |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 12:12 PM |
#135 |
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Thank you so much for your compassion and empathy, maryf. |
I Have A Dream |
Jan-17-09 12:02 PM |
#131 |
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Thanks to all for making Poverty #1 at DU |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 12:26 PM |
#140 |
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This belongs at the top of the Greatest Page. |
JeffR |
Jan-17-09 12:35 PM |
#142 |
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With a little help (lotta help!) from my friends! |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 12:42 PM |
#144 |
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Please keep poverty #1 in our hearts, and give this a RECOMMENDATION! |
bobbolink |
Jan-17-09 12:50 PM |
#145 |
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This needs kicking into the new administration... . .n/t |
annabanana |
Jan-17-09 01:10 PM |
#147 |
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...... |
bobbolink |
Jan-17-09 01:13 PM |
#148 |
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Thanks Anna! |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 01:14 PM |
#149 |
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Values have to change. We have to learn that those that we look up to |
acmavm |
Jan-17-09 01:34 PM |
#150 |
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The juxtapostion of those two stories is really GRAPHIC! |
bobbolink |
Jan-17-09 01:55 PM |
#151 |
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Well, thank you. |
acmavm |
Jan-17-09 01:57 PM |
#152 |
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Thanks for these articles |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 02:32 PM |
#153 |
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Sorry! Just testing something JeffR is trying to help me with... |
acmavm |
Jan-17-09 03:13 PM |
#158 |
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If its for your own OP |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 04:06 PM |
#162 |
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Nah, we got it. Thank you though. |
acmavm |
Jan-17-09 04:24 PM |
#165 |
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Can't tell??? |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 04:43 PM |
#166 |
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I FINALLY got the banner. |
acmavm |
Jan-17-09 04:45 PM |
#167 |
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HURRAH!! You look so very good in it! ^_^ |
bobbolink |
Jan-17-09 04:51 PM |
#168 |
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Yes, I've always been partial to blue, It brings out the color in my eyes. |
acmavm |
Jan-17-09 04:52 PM |
#169 |
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.... |
bobbolink |
Jan-17-09 05:00 PM |
#170 |
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How about everyone here take a pledge. Every time you see a display |
acmavm |
Jan-17-09 05:20 PM |
#171 |
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it is so.....you! |
Two Americas |
Jan-17-09 07:03 PM |
#174 |
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AAhhh!! |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 08:27 PM |
#177 |
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K, R & Forward! |
LongTomH |
Jan-17-09 03:13 PM |
#159 |
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Thank you! It deserves to be read! |
bobbolink |
Jan-17-09 03:59 PM |
#161 |
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Thank you Tom!! nt |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 04:07 PM |
#163 |
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Quick kick! |
JeffR |
Jan-17-09 03:37 PM |
#160 |
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K&R |
Solly Mack |
Jan-17-09 04:08 PM |
#164 |
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Damn, too late to rec, but here's a kick. |
20score |
Jan-17-09 05:36 PM |
#172 |
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I am in awe |
Two Americas |
Jan-17-09 07:07 PM |
#175 |
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The Gestalt |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 08:36 PM |
#178 |
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Too important to sink. nt |
I Have A Dream |
Jan-17-09 07:31 PM |
#176 |
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Kick for those who haven't yet read it. |
JeffR |
Jan-17-09 10:35 PM |
#180 |
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Kick |
strategery blunder |
Jan-17-09 11:25 PM |
#181 |
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and kick for the nite shift |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-18-09 01:36 AM |
#182 |
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thank YOU! We're glad you dropped in. ^_^ |
bobbolink |
Jan-18-09 01:12 PM |
#189 |
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Sunday morning kick! n/t |
timeforarevolution |
Jan-18-09 07:06 AM |
#185 |
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Kick! |
Tindalos |
Jan-18-09 12:44 PM |
#188 |
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Poverty at OPED news |
maryf |
Jan-18-09 03:20 PM |
#190 |
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Congratulations, Mary!! See, you ARE a writer! |
bobbolink |
Jan-18-09 04:07 PM |
#191 |
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In training maybe!! |
maryf |
Jan-18-09 04:35 PM |
#192 |
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heh... look at this comment: |
bobbolink |
Jan-18-09 04:57 PM |
#196 |
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Great to see that, Mary. |
JeffR |
Jan-18-09 04:41 PM |
#195 |
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thanks JeffR |
maryf |
Jan-18-09 10:45 PM |
#204 |
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Yay! |
Tindalos |
Jan-18-09 08:53 PM |
#203 |
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Thank you! |
maryf |
Jan-18-09 10:47 PM |
#206 |
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Bonus Poverty in America Essay, here...In honor of MLK jr. |
maryf |
Jan-18-09 04:36 PM |
#193 |
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Thanks for the link! |
JeffR |
Jan-18-09 04:40 PM |
#194 |
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You know it!! |
maryf |
Jan-18-09 05:11 PM |
#198 |
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Thank you. |
Tindalos |
Jan-18-09 10:46 PM |
#205 |
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Yes |
maryf |
Jan-18-09 11:51 PM |
#208 |
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kick |
MartyL |
Jan-18-09 05:01 PM |
#197 |
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Radical revolution in Values!! |
maryf |
Jan-18-09 05:12 PM |
#199 |
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kicking. |
cornermouse |
Jan-19-09 03:26 AM |
#209 |
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Kick for the morning crowd. n/t |
Tindalos |
Jan-19-09 08:49 AM |
#210 |
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On Tuesday, it was -30 and it was my night to go to the homeless |
wellstone dem |
Jan-19-09 10:54 AM |
#211 |
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FDR's New Deal, despite the drivel you will hear from Republican think |
Old Crusoe |
Jan-19-09 11:41 AM |
#212 |
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K & R |
BrklynLiberal |
Jan-19-09 12:38 PM |
#213 |
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Please remember what Martin said about poverty.. it still applies! |
bobbolink |
Jan-19-09 03:13 PM |
#214 |
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Kick! |
smokey nj |
Jan-19-09 03:52 PM |
#215 |
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We had a welfare system that sort of worked once in California. |
Cleita |
Jan-19-09 04:09 PM |
#218 |
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During the commentary on the ceremonies today, I heard Tweety compare himself |
greyhound1966 |
Jan-20-09 11:31 PM |
#226 |
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Well, I'm sort of wondering about Tweety. It seems he joins the winning |
Cleita |
Jan-20-09 11:35 PM |
#227 |
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Just as he did over the Clinton/shrub transition. He is an entertainer, not a journalist. n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Jan-22-09 01:25 PM |
#231 |
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kicking for Monday night |
Tindalos |
Jan-19-09 06:47 PM |
#219 |
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A kick for the excellence of the essay in the first place, and also for |
Old Crusoe |
Jan-19-09 08:25 PM |
#220 |
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Thank you Old Crusoe!! |
maryf |
Jan-19-09 09:12 PM |
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Hi, maryf. Yes -- emmylou is strictly top-drawer. |
Old Crusoe |
Jan-19-09 09:28 PM |
#222 |
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Kick for the poor... |
maryf |
Jan-20-09 09:40 PM |
#223 |
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I just had the same idea myself. |
JeffR |
Jan-20-09 09:44 PM |
#224 |
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Great minds... |
maryf |
Jan-21-09 08:29 PM |
#230 |
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kicking for change |
Tindalos |
Jan-20-09 11:23 PM |
#225 |
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