| 62. You're words are always inspirational |
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Thanks, Hannah Bell. What we all need to work harder and more for is to change this system, so that poverty becomes only old and in the past, and all have good housing (not just adequate), plenty of food, and security in infirmity and old age, and whereby all have time for recreation and time to share with friends and family! We wonder why the education of our kids is failing (aside from NCLB), especially among the poor students; their parents are working two, three, jobs just to keep them physically alive, with no time to help them develop mentally or emotionally...
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| -Poverty in America: the Old and the New |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 04:12 PM |
#0 |
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You are right on maryf... |
dajoki |
Jan-16-09 04:29 PM |
#1 |
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Thanks Dajoki |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 04:33 PM |
#3 |
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There is a difference however |
shintao |
Jan-16-09 09:02 PM |
#74 |
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YEs, indeed--decades of being beaten down will do that to a person. |
bobbolink |
Jan-16-09 10:45 PM |
#89 |
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I think it depends |
JNelson6563 |
Jan-17-09 11:39 AM |
#125 |
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I agree, bobbo. |
I Have A Dream |
Jan-17-09 12:00 PM |
#130 |
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You have said it exactly right! And it bears repeating! |
bobbolink |
Jan-17-09 12:17 PM |
#138 |
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You have been my inspiration... |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 12:05 PM |
#132 |
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That is... |
dajoki |
Jan-17-09 12:30 AM |
#94 |
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"I am now supposed to be happy with the crumbs I can find" reminds me... |
stlsaxman |
Jan-17-09 07:23 AM |
#112 |
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You speak of signs and wonders |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 12:09 PM |
#133 |
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Thanks for posting that. I'm glad there are poets and musicians paying attention! |
bobbolink |
Jan-17-09 12:15 PM |
#137 |
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This is exactly the position that my partner and I find ourselves in now. |
jhrobbins |
Jan-17-09 02:33 PM |
#154 |
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Maybe but ... |
mntleo2 |
Jan-17-09 02:32 AM |
#103 |
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mntleo2... |
I Have A Dream |
Jan-17-09 06:14 PM |
#173 |
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Cat this deserves its own thread |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 09:46 PM |
#179 |
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It's assumed people can walk away from McJobs |
Tindalos |
Jan-18-09 11:39 PM |
#207 |
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I have to disagree |
Two Americas |
Jan-17-09 04:40 AM |
#106 |
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k&r this reply |
cornermouse |
Jan-17-09 10:08 AM |
#116 |
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Second recommendation for this post! |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 11:37 AM |
#123 |
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well said. the reason 20% of the population requires state subsidy to survive isn't |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-18-09 01:45 AM |
#183 |
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Wonderful post- gee where shall I start |
Ocracoker16 |
Jan-18-09 05:35 PM |
#200 |
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hi Ocracoker16 |
Two Americas |
Jan-18-09 08:14 PM |
#201 |
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You are so right. |
Naturyl |
Jan-21-09 05:24 PM |
#229 |
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Happy to be ticking along? |
Baby Snooks |
Jan-17-09 09:19 AM |
#115 |
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I doubt that I would find much happiness and fulfillment |
cornermouse |
Jan-17-09 10:11 AM |
#117 |
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Great response!! |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 11:28 AM |
#121 |
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I've been rich and I've been poor... |
Baby Snooks |
Jan-17-09 02:38 PM |
#155 |
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Hear, hear! |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 02:53 PM |
#156 |
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You brought me to tears ... |
mntleo2 |
Jan-18-09 02:40 AM |
#184 |
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Hey Cat |
maryf |
Jan-18-09 09:08 AM |
#186 |
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a must read, K&R |
G_j |
Jan-16-09 04:32 PM |
#2 |
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I wish all Americans |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 04:35 PM |
#5 |
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K+R |
angrycarpenter |
Jan-16-09 04:35 PM |
#4 |
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Its a tough issue to look at... |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 04:37 PM |
#6 |
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I believe that is because... |
dajoki |
Jan-16-09 04:53 PM |
#11 |
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I think it's because it's depressing. Especially for those that |
Fire1 |
Jan-16-09 06:43 PM |
#52 |
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Of course |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 07:00 PM |
#56 |
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Yes it is n/t |
dajoki |
Jan-17-09 12:37 AM |
#96 |
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You're right and I also think it's because some folks honestly don't know what to do |
Number23 |
Jan-16-09 11:31 PM |
#91 |
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We have to help them know.. |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 12:21 PM |
#139 |
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Thank you so much, angrycarpenter! We're VERY TIRED of being IGNORED! |
bobbolink |
Jan-16-09 05:00 PM |
#14 |
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Everybody deserves attention!! |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 05:25 PM |
#24 |
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Read and bookmarked. |
azmouse |
Jan-16-09 04:38 PM |
#7 |
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Yes it does... |
dajoki |
Jan-16-09 04:44 PM |
#9 |
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Same here in San Bernardino, even in the "nice" part of town. |
Raksha |
Jan-16-09 05:45 PM |
#33 |
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What is considered the nice part of town these days in San Bernardino? |
Cleita |
Jan-19-09 03:58 PM |
#216 |
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In Miami there was a man who was doing that... |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 05:12 PM |
#17 |
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Wanna see that article, Mary! NEED that article, Mary! |
bobbolink |
Jan-16-09 08:06 PM |
#64 |
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Right below here!! |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 11:39 AM |
#126 |
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Here's the article where homeless into empty houses works... |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 06:27 PM |
#49 |
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The damned bailout was even more destructive than I thought :( |
varelse |
Jan-16-09 08:29 PM |
#71 |
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I noticed that too when I read the article. |
Raksha |
Jan-17-09 12:51 AM |
#98 |
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Money and property |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 11:41 AM |
#127 |
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LOL! I agree, but think about this: |
mntleo2 |
Jan-17-09 12:10 PM |
#134 |
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damn |
Two Americas |
Jan-18-09 08:22 PM |
#202 |
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Working Poor |
send in the clowns |
Jan-16-09 04:42 PM |
#8 |
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Well said... |
dajoki |
Jan-16-09 04:50 PM |
#10 |
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"If a homeis warm in the winter,has a roof that doesn't leak etc it's a castle" |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 11:46 AM |
#128 |
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My depression era parents told me ... |
mntleo2 |
Jan-17-09 12:29 PM |
#141 |
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Very important points.. but please also remember.. those of us not working are also humans, |
bobbolink |
Jan-17-09 12:40 PM |
#143 |
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K&R |
blindpig |
Jan-16-09 04:53 PM |
#12 |
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People are people are people... |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 05:16 PM |
#18 |
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Your essay was well worth the read, but |
varelse |
Jan-16-09 08:12 PM |
#68 |
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Answers are most often simple |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 08:25 PM |
#70 |
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As a matter of fact, they are likely to be less naturally spiritual. |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jan-16-09 06:00 PM |
#45 |
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From the sermon on the mount |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 06:22 PM |
#48 |
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I believe the words of The Sermon on the Mount are widely held to be |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jan-16-09 06:34 PM |
#50 |
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The Beatitudes |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 06:54 PM |
#53 |
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That's beautiful. |
Tindalos |
Jan-16-09 07:52 PM |
#63 |
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Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after justice... |
JeffR |
Jan-17-09 12:22 AM |
#93 |
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I won't be full... |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 12:14 PM |
#136 |
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It would be nice to feel the "blessed" part.... |
bobbolink |
Jan-21-09 01:13 PM |
#228 |
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Thank you Mary for taking the time to write this - |
1776Forever |
Jan-16-09 04:55 PM |
#13 |
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That is so wrong... |
dajoki |
Jan-16-09 05:06 PM |
#15 |
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Thanks for the post - You are so right on! |
1776Forever |
Jan-16-09 05:26 PM |
#25 |
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I hope it KEEPS getting better |
dajoki |
Jan-16-09 05:48 PM |
#36 |
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Healthcare is a huge cause |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 05:20 PM |
#19 |
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Yes so true - One day I hope we really do help the least of these for real! |
1776Forever |
Jan-16-09 05:27 PM |
#26 |
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Here's an article I just got on single payer healthcare |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 05:56 PM |
#40 |
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Please help us by working for low-income housing!!! |
bobbolink |
Jan-16-09 05:57 PM |
#41 |
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Housing is such a critical issue to be addressed... |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 07:04 PM |
#59 |
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I'm so glad your son is doing better. |
illuminaughty |
Jan-17-09 01:18 AM |
#102 |
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K & R |
JeffR |
Jan-16-09 05:07 PM |
#16 |
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Thanks JeffR! |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 05:22 PM |
#22 |
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K&R! |
redqueen |
Jan-16-09 05:20 PM |
#20 |
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K&R! |
smokey nj |
Jan-16-09 05:20 PM |
#21 |
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Poverty in America is a great shame of this nation. rec'd |
mod mom |
Jan-16-09 05:24 PM |
#23 |
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They are the exact words I use |
dajoki |
Jan-16-09 05:50 PM |
#38 |
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You are too a writer and a fine one |
skygazer |
Jan-16-09 05:37 PM |
#27 |
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I'm sorry for what you've been through... and so much appreciate your compassion! |
bobbolink |
Jan-16-09 05:45 PM |
#34 |
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Absolutely people are people |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 05:47 PM |
#35 |
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People keep saying the "new homeless" will change the US homeless awareness....WRONG! |
bobbolink |
Jan-16-09 05:38 PM |
#28 |
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You are so right... |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 05:44 PM |
#32 |
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K & R, and bookmarked to read later when I can give this the attention it deserves. |
Raksha |
Jan-16-09 05:39 PM |
#29 |
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Thank you, Raksha |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 08:09 PM |
#65 |
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excellent |
Two Americas |
Jan-16-09 05:40 PM |
#30 |
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Back atya! |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 05:51 PM |
#39 |
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K&R! n/t |
junofeb |
Jan-16-09 05:43 PM |
#31 |
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Endorsed, kicked, and recommended. |
Old Crusoe |
Jan-16-09 05:49 PM |
#37 |
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hey OC |
Two Americas |
Jan-16-09 05:57 PM |
#42 |
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Hi, Two Americas. I think we've been on the same page for |
Old Crusoe |
Jan-16-09 05:59 PM |
#44 |
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Just one quibble ... |
NanceGreggs |
Jan-16-09 05:57 PM |
#43 |
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Thanks Nance!! |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 06:12 PM |
#46 |
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It is long past time that we regroup and realize FDR's standard of "Four Freedoms" |
TahitiNut |
Jan-16-09 06:17 PM |
#47 |
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When the "wealth" of a society |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 06:59 PM |
#55 |
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"Freedom from Want" -- what a unique concept! |
bobbolink |
Jan-16-09 08:11 PM |
#67 |
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Also from FDR ... “The Economic Bill of Rights” |
TahitiNut |
Jan-16-09 09:35 PM |
#78 |
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"All of these rights spell security" - yes. & that's what's important, v. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-17-09 02:49 AM |
#105 |
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Kick! |
JeffR |
Jan-16-09 06:39 PM |
#51 |
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poverty affects everything.... |
smorgma |
Jan-16-09 06:59 PM |
#54 |
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Thanks for the words of truth... |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 07:02 PM |
#57 |
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Great OP- Thanks Mary! |
MartyL |
Jan-16-09 07:03 PM |
#58 |
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I'm afraid the death noll is sounding |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 07:07 PM |
#60 |
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From the time of the Revolution to the present, ordinary Americans |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-16-09 07:11 PM |
#61 |
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You're words are always inspirational |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 07:20 PM |
#62 |
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I'm just reading in another thread where some 52-lb 8-yr-old asberger's girl was arrested |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-16-09 10:41 PM |
#87 |
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another sad indication of the loss of heart in society... |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 03:03 PM |
#157 |
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Oops! Posted in the wrong place. |
Cleita |
Jan-19-09 04:06 PM |
#217 |
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Great writing, Mary |
Tindalos |
Jan-16-09 08:10 PM |
#66 |
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So glad you've caught the others... |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 08:21 PM |
#69 |
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you know what |
on the EDGE |
Jan-16-09 08:33 PM |
#72 |
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Giving from need... |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 09:53 PM |
#80 |
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Auto K&R. |
greyhound1966 |
Jan-16-09 08:35 PM |
#73 |
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That is a really good point... |
dajoki |
Jan-17-09 12:56 AM |
#99 |
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Nice work, Mary! |
Number23 |
Jan-16-09 09:10 PM |
#75 |
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Thanks! |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 09:55 PM |
#81 |
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So many wonderful points and comments...what can I add? |
Journalgrrl |
Jan-16-09 09:14 PM |
#76 |
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What can you add? |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 10:26 PM |
#84 |
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thanks Mary |
Journalgrrl |
Jan-16-09 10:41 PM |
#88 |
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Thats so insane! |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 11:27 PM |
#90 |
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Uhhh yeah that is exactly what a DSHS worker would tell you ... |
mntleo2 |
Jan-17-09 02:44 AM |
#104 |
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Action repeated |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 11:16 AM |
#119 |
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Dear Heart: |
mntleo2 |
Jan-18-09 09:45 AM |
#187 |
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Capitalism Creates Poverty |
shintao |
Jan-16-09 09:34 PM |
#77 |
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Socialism is the humane system |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 10:05 PM |
#82 |
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K&R |
Blue_In_AK |
Jan-16-09 09:41 PM |
#79 |
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Links to other Poverty in America articles by JeffR and Hannah Bell here |
maryf |
Jan-16-09 10:16 PM |
#83 |
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Thanks for posting the links. |
Tindalos |
Jan-17-09 01:05 AM |
#100 |
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Thanks for the links Mary... |
dajoki |
Jan-17-09 01:07 AM |
#101 |
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It seems like every generation has to re-learn the lessons missed by the previous one. |
ColbertWatcher |
Jan-16-09 10:29 PM |
#85 |
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Excellent post! |
JNelson6563 |
Jan-16-09 10:30 PM |
#86 |
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K&R |
leftstreet |
Jan-16-09 11:56 PM |
#92 |
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kicking for the nite shift |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-17-09 12:31 AM |
#95 |
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An artist AND a writer! Beautiful piece. K&R |
illuminaughty |
Jan-17-09 12:49 AM |
#97 |
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Excellent writing. We must roll back Welfare Reform. |
Artiechoke |
Jan-17-09 04:57 AM |
#107 |
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K&R Mary |
caseycoon |
Jan-17-09 06:14 AM |
#108 |
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Glad you like it! |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 06:23 AM |
#109 |
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A superb post |
malaise |
Jan-17-09 06:30 AM |
#110 |
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Morning kick n/t |
blindpig |
Jan-17-09 07:15 AM |
#111 |
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Kick |
machI |
Jan-17-09 07:48 AM |
#113 |
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Such a great OP, by a writer and artist. |
Bluenorthwest |
Jan-17-09 08:44 AM |
#114 |
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Thanks!! |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 01:00 PM |
#146 |
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Error: You've already recommended that thread. |
Tindalos |
Jan-17-09 10:49 AM |
#118 |
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Thanks for shooting for two recs!!! |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 11:19 AM |
#120 |
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yeah, me too! |
bobbolink |
Jan-17-09 11:38 AM |
#124 |
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RE: "The dead and desperate of the Gulf Coast... |
cliffordu |
Jan-17-09 11:28 AM |
#122 |
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Wonderful post. Absolutely wonderful. Which reminded me of something. |
acmavm |
Jan-17-09 11:50 AM |
#129 |
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Yours is a wonderful post!!! Should be its own OP!! |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 12:12 PM |
#135 |
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Thank you so much for your compassion and empathy, maryf. |
I Have A Dream |
Jan-17-09 12:02 PM |
#131 |
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Thanks to all for making Poverty #1 at DU |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 12:26 PM |
#140 |
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This belongs at the top of the Greatest Page. |
JeffR |
Jan-17-09 12:35 PM |
#142 |
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With a little help (lotta help!) from my friends! |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 12:42 PM |
#144 |
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Please keep poverty #1 in our hearts, and give this a RECOMMENDATION! |
bobbolink |
Jan-17-09 12:50 PM |
#145 |
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This needs kicking into the new administration... . .n/t |
annabanana |
Jan-17-09 01:10 PM |
#147 |
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...... |
bobbolink |
Jan-17-09 01:13 PM |
#148 |
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Thanks Anna! |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 01:14 PM |
#149 |
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Values have to change. We have to learn that those that we look up to |
acmavm |
Jan-17-09 01:34 PM |
#150 |
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The juxtapostion of those two stories is really GRAPHIC! |
bobbolink |
Jan-17-09 01:55 PM |
#151 |
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Well, thank you. |
acmavm |
Jan-17-09 01:57 PM |
#152 |
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Thanks for these articles |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 02:32 PM |
#153 |
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Sorry! Just testing something JeffR is trying to help me with... |
acmavm |
Jan-17-09 03:13 PM |
#158 |
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If its for your own OP |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 04:06 PM |
#162 |
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Nah, we got it. Thank you though. |
acmavm |
Jan-17-09 04:24 PM |
#165 |
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Can't tell??? |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 04:43 PM |
#166 |
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I FINALLY got the banner. |
acmavm |
Jan-17-09 04:45 PM |
#167 |
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HURRAH!! You look so very good in it! ^_^ |
bobbolink |
Jan-17-09 04:51 PM |
#168 |
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Yes, I've always been partial to blue, It brings out the color in my eyes. |
acmavm |
Jan-17-09 04:52 PM |
#169 |
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.... |
bobbolink |
Jan-17-09 05:00 PM |
#170 |
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How about everyone here take a pledge. Every time you see a display |
acmavm |
Jan-17-09 05:20 PM |
#171 |
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it is so.....you! |
Two Americas |
Jan-17-09 07:03 PM |
#174 |
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AAhhh!! |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 08:27 PM |
#177 |
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K, R & Forward! |
LongTomH |
Jan-17-09 03:13 PM |
#159 |
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Thank you! It deserves to be read! |
bobbolink |
Jan-17-09 03:59 PM |
#161 |
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Thank you Tom!! nt |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 04:07 PM |
#163 |
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Quick kick! |
JeffR |
Jan-17-09 03:37 PM |
#160 |
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K&R |
Solly Mack |
Jan-17-09 04:08 PM |
#164 |
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Damn, too late to rec, but here's a kick. |
20score |
Jan-17-09 05:36 PM |
#172 |
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I am in awe |
Two Americas |
Jan-17-09 07:07 PM |
#175 |
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The Gestalt |
maryf |
Jan-17-09 08:36 PM |
#178 |
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Too important to sink. nt |
I Have A Dream |
Jan-17-09 07:31 PM |
#176 |
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Kick for those who haven't yet read it. |
JeffR |
Jan-17-09 10:35 PM |
#180 |
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Kick |
strategery blunder |
Jan-17-09 11:25 PM |
#181 |
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and kick for the nite shift |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-18-09 01:36 AM |
#182 |
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thank YOU! We're glad you dropped in. ^_^ |
bobbolink |
Jan-18-09 01:12 PM |
#189 |
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Sunday morning kick! n/t |
timeforarevolution |
Jan-18-09 07:06 AM |
#185 |
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Kick! |
Tindalos |
Jan-18-09 12:44 PM |
#188 |
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Poverty at OPED news |
maryf |
Jan-18-09 03:20 PM |
#190 |
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Congratulations, Mary!! See, you ARE a writer! |
bobbolink |
Jan-18-09 04:07 PM |
#191 |
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In training maybe!! |
maryf |
Jan-18-09 04:35 PM |
#192 |
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heh... look at this comment: |
bobbolink |
Jan-18-09 04:57 PM |
#196 |
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Great to see that, Mary. |
JeffR |
Jan-18-09 04:41 PM |
#195 |
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thanks JeffR |
maryf |
Jan-18-09 10:45 PM |
#204 |
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Yay! |
Tindalos |
Jan-18-09 08:53 PM |
#203 |
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Thank you! |
maryf |
Jan-18-09 10:47 PM |
#206 |
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Bonus Poverty in America Essay, here...In honor of MLK jr. |
maryf |
Jan-18-09 04:36 PM |
#193 |
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Thanks for the link! |
JeffR |
Jan-18-09 04:40 PM |
#194 |
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You know it!! |
maryf |
Jan-18-09 05:11 PM |
#198 |
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Thank you. |
Tindalos |
Jan-18-09 10:46 PM |
#205 |
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Yes |
maryf |
Jan-18-09 11:51 PM |
#208 |
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kick |
MartyL |
Jan-18-09 05:01 PM |
#197 |
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Radical revolution in Values!! |
maryf |
Jan-18-09 05:12 PM |
#199 |
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kicking. |
cornermouse |
Jan-19-09 03:26 AM |
#209 |
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Kick for the morning crowd. n/t |
Tindalos |
Jan-19-09 08:49 AM |
#210 |
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On Tuesday, it was -30 and it was my night to go to the homeless |
wellstone dem |
Jan-19-09 10:54 AM |
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FDR's New Deal, despite the drivel you will hear from Republican think |
Old Crusoe |
Jan-19-09 11:41 AM |
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K & R |
BrklynLiberal |
Jan-19-09 12:38 PM |
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Please remember what Martin said about poverty.. it still applies! |
bobbolink |
Jan-19-09 03:13 PM |
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Kick! |
smokey nj |
Jan-19-09 03:52 PM |
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We had a welfare system that sort of worked once in California. |
Cleita |
Jan-19-09 04:09 PM |
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During the commentary on the ceremonies today, I heard Tweety compare himself |
greyhound1966 |
Jan-20-09 11:31 PM |
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Well, I'm sort of wondering about Tweety. It seems he joins the winning |
Cleita |
Jan-20-09 11:35 PM |
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Just as he did over the Clinton/shrub transition. He is an entertainer, not a journalist. n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Jan-22-09 01:25 PM |
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kicking for Monday night |
Tindalos |
Jan-19-09 06:47 PM |
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A kick for the excellence of the essay in the first place, and also for |
Old Crusoe |
Jan-19-09 08:25 PM |
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Thank you Old Crusoe!! |
maryf |
Jan-19-09 09:12 PM |
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Hi, maryf. Yes -- emmylou is strictly top-drawer. |
Old Crusoe |
Jan-19-09 09:28 PM |
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Kick for the poor... |
maryf |
Jan-20-09 09:40 PM |
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I just had the same idea myself. |
JeffR |
Jan-20-09 09:44 PM |
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Great minds... |
maryf |
Jan-21-09 08:29 PM |
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kicking for change |
Tindalos |
Jan-20-09 11:23 PM |
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