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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 01:42 PM
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41. Oh yes, indeed:
You write:

"My point, that apparently whooshed right over your head in your eagerness to categorize me in snarky fashion, was that currencies fluctuate, economies do dip" ...

...and crashes happen, countries default, currencies melt down, empires fall, civilizations decay, ecosystems collapse, and even the French Revolution is known to have occurred. These are all more or less frequent types of occurrences. Your faith that one type of historically common event happens a lot in happy land (Disneyworld) and the other type never does is merely that, faith. Of the self-serving or self-justifying variety. In the absence of facts, at the moment.

"It's the MARKET, that you disdain, and not your angry lecturing, that drives that sort of behavior."

The "market" is a myth to explain and justify the power and economic relations under capitalist political economy as a natural state. It's the "market," which you worship, that has led to cyclical as well as century crashes. We're at the start of the latter right now. One of those that at best will be called a Great Depression. No doubt you'll come out with some celebratory point that the Great Depression turned into the longest boom in Western history in just 15 years and one world war later.

And if any thanks are to be given for that, then to policies that explicitly curbed capitalism and the unleashed flow of capital exemplified in the "currency fluctuations" you wish to now count on. It was thanks to the New Deal and Bretton Woods.

As for angry lecturing, why not go review your posts on this thread, which precede my own, for a sample. It's clear that the tenor of this thread from the OP on down angered you, and you arrived to bully on behalf of last year's platitudes with claims of superior knowledge.

Sir/Madam, "Happiness Pills" are for Disneyworld visitors. Being tanked on them apparently makes one immune to irony and subtle discursive logics, so please go ahead:

Last one to post here wins!
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              - Oh yes, indeed:  JackRiddler   Jan-11-09 01:42 PM   #41 
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