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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:20 PM
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155. Kick
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  -Poverty in America: Truth Hurts, Ignorance Kills JeffR  Jan-02-09 04:09 PM   #0 
  - a BIG Rec, and thank you!  G_j   Jan-02-09 04:11 PM   #1 
  - Off to the GP ...  NanceGreggs   Jan-02-09 04:14 PM   #2 
  - "the fierce urgency of now."  bobbolink   Jan-02-09 04:14 PM   #3 
  - Trickle-down economics supports social Darwinism...  AntiFascist   Jan-02-09 04:16 PM   #4 
  - "The fierce urgency of now", and it's going to get worse. Rec'd for more eyes. nt  babylonsister   Jan-02-09 04:18 PM   #5 
  - Much worse...  Baby Snooks   Jan-03-09 01:20 PM   #121 
     - Good comments on poor-bashing, Baby Snooks!  offog   Jan-03-09 03:44 PM   #134 
  - K&R  sfexpat2000   Jan-02-09 04:18 PM   #6 
  - K&R This is why I am a democrat. nt  anonymous171   Jan-02-09 04:21 PM   #7 
  - When altruism begins to exist, a utopia is possible. Right now, it isn't.  pl259   Jan-02-09 04:21 PM   #8 
  - Not sure that altruism is needed. just plain common sense.  truedelphi   Jan-09-09 02:28 PM   #176 
  - To Sapphire Blue  yellerpup   Jan-02-09 04:22 PM   #9 
  - YEs, absolutely. Sapphire Blue tried so hard to get DUers to respond  bobbolink   Jan-02-09 04:32 PM   #14 
     - This is what I remember about being broke and the mental effect  yellerpup   Jan-02-09 08:18 PM   #69 
        - Amazing story.  JNelson6563   Jan-03-09 10:22 AM   #104 
           - Thank you.  yellerpup   Jan-03-09 01:56 PM   #123 
  - Daily, I am humbled by the strength and goodness of others.  wellstone dem   Jan-02-09 04:25 PM   #10 
  - Thank you for sharing your story about Joan. n/t  truedelphi   Jan-02-09 07:52 PM   #64 
  - Thank you for sharing that story, wellstone dem  JeffR   Jan-03-09 11:55 AM   #107 
  - Thanks for this post.  JNelson6563   Jan-03-09 02:02 PM   #124 
  - Don't forget the quiet twin: Mental illness no laughing matter for one comedian  sfexpat2000   Jan-02-09 04:27 PM   #11 
  - That's just increasing the stigma... it's time to stop this untruth.  bobbolink   Jan-02-09 04:37 PM   #18 
  - With respect, bobbolink, you may associate mental illness with stigma.  sfexpat2000   Jan-02-09 04:39 PM   #19 
     - And what you're doing is increasing the stigma.  bobbolink   Jan-02-09 04:43 PM   #20 
     - Actually, you are asking those of us who deal with poverty BECAUSE  sfexpat2000   Jan-02-09 04:47 PM   #22 
        - 16%  MartyL   Jan-02-09 06:30 PM   #42 
           - 16 %  maryf   Jan-02-09 07:11 PM   #48 
           - also...  Two Americas   Jan-02-09 07:18 PM   #49 
           - Wonderful post.  Naturyl   Jan-02-09 07:53 PM   #65 
           - You are confusing mental illness with sociopathy.  sfexpat2000   Jan-03-09 03:34 AM   #89 
           - Good points, TwoAmericas.  Kajsa   Jan-03-09 09:27 AM   #102 
           - Btw,  Kajsa   Jan-03-09 12:02 PM   #108 
              - A very gentle but emphatic "thank you", kajsa!  bobbolink   Jan-06-09 04:32 PM   #163 
           - "the first thing they need is a home"  MartyL   Jan-02-09 08:53 PM   #70 
              - Empty homes+ people who have no home,  Kajsa   Jan-03-09 12:23 PM   #112 
           - SAMHSA say 39% reporting with 20-25% meeting the criteria for severe mental illness.  sfexpat2000   Jan-03-09 03:31 AM   #88 
           - they have an agenda  Two Americas   Jan-03-09 03:55 AM   #91 
              - In the years I've worked on both problems, I've found SAMHSA  sfexpat2000   Jan-03-09 02:37 PM   #128 
                 - no problem  Two Americas   Jan-03-09 03:02 PM   #130 
           - Here in Michigan  JNelson6563   Jan-03-09 08:06 AM   #97 
     - yes and no  Two Americas   Jan-02-09 07:21 PM   #52 
     - K&R n/t  timeforarevolution   Jan-03-09 05:20 PM   #136 
  - Mental illness is on par with inadequate healthcare system we have in America.  glowing   Jan-02-09 06:08 PM   #37 
  - cause, or effect?  Two Americas   Jan-02-09 07:11 PM   #47 
     - catch 22  maryf   Jan-02-09 07:20 PM   #50 
     - Aspen  Two Americas   Jan-02-09 07:29 PM   #56 
        - those are the people  maryf   Jan-02-09 07:32 PM   #58 
        - So true. Thank heavens I'm a "loser."  Naturyl   Jan-02-09 07:56 PM   #66 
        - This is so interesting, because if you were to lable a poor person  midnight   Jan-02-09 09:04 PM   #73 
     - You are interpreting mental illness as some kind of blame.  sfexpat2000   Jan-03-09 03:37 AM   #90 
        - no I 'm not  Two Americas   Jan-03-09 02:25 PM   #126 
           - I fought the mental health establishment for more than a decade  sfexpat2000   Jan-03-09 02:51 PM   #129 
              - understood  Two Americas   Jan-03-09 03:03 PM   #131 
  - there was a time, not so long ago . . .  OneBlueSky   Jan-02-09 04:28 PM   #12 
  - Yes, "The War on Poverty"...  dajoki   Jan-02-09 07:25 PM   #54 
  - And yet it seems a thousand years ago now somehow.  JeffR   Jan-03-09 12:16 PM   #110 
  - Kick, and looking forward to reading these essays.  cottonseed   Jan-02-09 04:31 PM   #13 
  - If we stand behind the Human Rights Declaration, then we begin to unify our voices as one:  glowing   Jan-02-09 04:33 PM   #15 
  - December 10, 1948, and here we are.  bobbolink   Jan-02-09 04:46 PM   #21 
  - If only, indeed.  glowing   Jan-02-09 05:01 PM   #28 
  - June 27, 1936  Two Americas   Jan-02-09 07:50 PM   #63 
  - Very good point, glowing.  JeffR   Jan-03-09 12:20 PM   #111 
  - Thank you. k+r, n/t  ColbertWatcher   Jan-02-09 04:34 PM   #16 
  - To bobbolink:  azmouse   Jan-02-09 04:35 PM   #17 
  - seconded n/t  Two Americas   Jan-02-09 07:42 PM   #61 
  - K&R  Blue_In_AK   Jan-02-09 04:47 PM   #23 
  - Those articles should be written into our Constitution. K&R  Cleita   Jan-02-09 04:48 PM   #24 
  - The way the politicians and their paymasters have accepted the homelessness  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Jan-02-09 04:56 PM   #25 
  - What you say is true. But it's deeper than that. The POPULATION has accepted  bobbolink   Jan-02-09 05:01 PM   #27 
  - Yes, you are absolutely right. My allusion to national degeneracy was  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Jan-02-09 05:25 PM   #32 
  - YEs. That's the problem with a democracy. It's ALL of us...  bobbolink   Jan-02-09 05:35 PM   #33 
     - People only accept homelessness if their neighbor is the one that lost his house, but...  Selatius   Jan-02-09 07:36 PM   #59 
        - "Rugged individualism" is very much a key part of the problem.  JeffR   Jan-03-09 12:36 PM   #113 
           - Didn't Obama mention  Kajsa   Jan-03-09 12:54 PM   #115 
              - That was one of those moments when I thought  JeffR   Jan-03-09 01:24 PM   #122 
                 - Yes it is, Jeff.  Kajsa   Jan-03-09 05:20 PM   #137 
  - Raygun was responsible for the homelessness of many mentally ill people  GoddessOfGuinness   Jan-03-09 11:45 PM   #147 
  - You are absolutely right,KCDM.  Kajsa   Jan-03-09 01:04 PM   #117 
  - and isn't it amazing how they are quick to cheer the soldier while he is uniform, but  mod mom   Jan-09-09 01:40 PM   #175 
  - HANNITY' AMERICA sure isn't MY AMERICA !  quidam56   Jan-02-09 04:58 PM   #26 
  - K&R Thank you, JeffR.  Waiting For Everyman   Jan-02-09 05:02 PM   #29 
  - K&R. FDR recognized the need for an expanded Bill of Rights, why don't we now? n/t  greyhound1966   Jan-02-09 05:16 PM   #30 
  - K&R  TahitiNut   Jan-02-09 05:16 PM   #31 
  - K & R.  Kajsa   Jan-02-09 05:39 PM   #34 
  - This is all by design.  Dr_eldritch   Jan-02-09 05:41 PM   #35 
  - kick for the evening crowd  bobbolink   Jan-02-09 05:57 PM   #36 
  - Fantastic! JeffR, huge K&R  maryf   Jan-02-09 06:09 PM   #38 
  - Super post  malaise   Jan-02-09 06:16 PM   #39 
  - K&R  MartyL   Jan-02-09 06:18 PM   #40 
  - Poverty is the issue I am most passionate about  skygazer   Jan-02-09 06:28 PM   #41 
  - "Poor people don't have lobbyists." Nor many advocates!  bobbolink   Jan-06-09 06:03 PM   #167 
  - There are varied statistics on the percentages  Kajsa   Jan-02-09 06:46 PM   #43 
  - Poverty will not be solved by either party  dcsmart   Jan-02-09 06:48 PM   #44 
  - K&R for truth  varelse   Jan-02-09 06:51 PM   #45 
  - The 1948 UDHR is one of my favorite documents.  HughBeaumont   Jan-02-09 07:03 PM   #46 
  - Unfortunately it's not just the US.  Tindalos   Jan-02-09 07:21 PM   #51 
  - Freedom from Want  Naturyl   Jan-02-09 07:24 PM   #53 
  - When I read things like this, it makes me very sad to be an American.  I Have A Dream   Jan-02-09 07:29 PM   #55 
  - If we are loud enough for long enough, someone will hear us!  lonestarnot   Jan-02-09 07:32 PM   #57 
  - There are as many reasons for poverty as there are poor people  mntleo2   Jan-02-09 07:39 PM   #60 
  - Great post, Cat.  JeffR   Jan-03-09 12:50 PM   #114 
  - Pondering here...  maryf   Jan-03-09 08:53 PM   #145 
  - Great post JeffR K&R!!  dajoki   Jan-02-09 07:48 PM   #62 
  - k and r  Wetzelbill   Jan-02-09 08:11 PM   #67 
  - Thank you  junofeb   Jan-02-09 08:17 PM   #68 
  - Kicking it back to the top. nt  I Have A Dream   Jan-02-09 08:57 PM   #71 
  - You just said quite a lot about our poor America and her values.  acmavm   Jan-02-09 08:57 PM   #72 
  - "we are taking care of the wrong end of society"  maryf   Jan-02-09 10:19 PM   #79 
  - "we have to force them to do it"  JeffR   Jan-03-09 01:06 PM   #118 
     - Will we? I don't know. Read my post down below. It wouldn't take much  acmavm   Jan-04-09 10:15 AM   #151 
  - Thank you for this...  redqueen   Jan-02-09 09:09 PM   #74 
  - A kick and a rec!!!  20score   Jan-02-09 09:20 PM   #75 
  - The new "welfare queen"  lin_e65   Jan-02-09 09:36 PM   #76 
  - Amen!  I Have A Dream   Jan-02-09 10:18 PM   #78 
  - Rich Always WERE Welfare Queens  mntleo2   Jan-03-09 12:04 PM   #109 
  - Well said!  JeffR   Jan-03-09 01:07 PM   #119 
  - Very nice thread, great idea and great research  Number23   Jan-02-09 09:52 PM   #77 
  - Thanks, all, for your comments, many of them brilliant.  JeffR   Jan-02-09 10:46 PM   #80 
  - Brilliant writing is inspirational Jeff!  maryf   Jan-02-09 11:08 PM   #82 
  - K and R!  undeterred   Jan-02-09 11:01 PM   #81 
  - This is a splendid post.  Old Crusoe   Jan-02-09 11:09 PM   #83 
  - A living wage should be a basic right.  Odin2005   Jan-02-09 11:13 PM   #84 
  - And those who are disabled...  dajoki   Jan-05-09 01:28 PM   #160 
  - K & R  Raksha   Jan-02-09 11:27 PM   #85 
  - "Motherhood and Childhood" -- I was gonna skim here until I saw that...  Sparkly   Jan-02-09 11:36 PM   #86 
  - K&R  Artiechoke   Jan-03-09 02:41 AM   #87 
  - K&R w/o comment  themartyred   Jan-03-09 04:29 AM   #92 
  - How do you measure when declaring one country "the richest nation in the world?"  tclambert   Jan-03-09 05:58 AM   #93 
  - besides which, where there's "wealth," there's always poverty.  Hannah Bell   Jan-03-09 06:07 AM   #94 
  - K&R  JNelson6563   Jan-03-09 06:50 AM   #95 
  - K&R  gollygee   Jan-03-09 07:05 AM   #96 
  - kick  G_j   Jan-03-09 08:49 AM   #98 
  - K & R for the morning crew.  michele77   Jan-03-09 08:50 AM   #99 
  - Another thing...  dajoki   Jan-03-09 09:00 AM   #100 
  - Absolutely!  maryf   Jan-03-09 05:31 PM   #140 
  - K&R  Orwellian_Ghost   Jan-03-09 09:11 AM   #101 
  - K & R  L0oniX   Jan-03-09 10:01 AM   #103 
  - Darn, I just went and looked to see which threads are catching the most  acmavm   Jan-03-09 10:35 AM   #105 
  - They've criminalized homelessness as an excuse to ignore it.  Desertrose   Jan-03-09 11:43 AM   #106 
  - THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR ANYONE TO BE HOMELESS FOR WHATEVER REASON.  maryf   Jan-04-09 09:12 AM   #150 
  - I don't like the upward defining of poverty  hfojvt   Jan-03-09 01:01 PM   #116 
  - The amounts you mention  maryf   Jan-04-09 10:41 AM   #152 
  - ah, I'm in time to rec.  ulysses   Jan-03-09 01:17 PM   #120 
  - great post  dana_b   Jan-03-09 02:17 PM   #125 
  - It is a terrible shame that our national news media gives this so little attention.  Time for change   Jan-03-09 02:28 PM   #127 
  - Kicking again.  JeffR   Jan-03-09 03:21 PM   #132 
  - Kicking  CC   Jan-03-09 03:36 PM   #133 
  - Kick for an important topic  Beaverhausen   Jan-03-09 04:39 PM   #135 
  - Kick for another evening...  maryf   Jan-03-09 05:27 PM   #138 
  - Kick!  smokey nj   Jan-03-09 05:27 PM   #139 
  - How sad  southernyankeebelle   Jan-03-09 05:41 PM   #141 
  - You are right but not just the working poor...  maryf   Jan-03-09 08:44 PM   #144 
  - Too late to recommend but a late kick n/t  blindpig   Jan-03-09 08:04 PM   #142 
  - Thanks!  JeffR   Jan-03-09 08:21 PM   #143 
  - Kick!  JeffR   Jan-03-09 11:18 PM   #146 
  - back up.  ulysses   Jan-04-09 06:50 AM   #148 
  - A kick on a Sunday morning.  Old Crusoe   Jan-04-09 08:52 AM   #149 
  - Kick!  JeffR   Jan-04-09 11:22 AM   #153 
  - kick  dajoki   Jan-04-09 12:48 PM   #154 
  - Kick  maryf   Jan-04-09 01:20 PM   #155 
  - kick  Beaverhausen   Jan-04-09 02:30 PM   #156 
  - it's Sunday evening!  ulysses   Jan-04-09 06:57 PM   #157 
  - kick, goddamnit!  ulysses   Jan-04-09 11:30 PM   #158 
  - You tell 'em ulysses!  bobbolink   Jan-06-09 07:46 PM   #169 
     - can't fit it in.  ulysses   Jan-09-09 06:28 PM   #180 
  - Monday morning kick. :) n/t  timeforarevolution   Jan-05-09 06:38 AM   #159 
  - monday afternoon kick  Beaverhausen   Jan-05-09 01:54 PM   #161 
  - Monday Evening Kick nt  maryf   Jan-05-09 05:57 PM   #162 
  - Poverty? As long as the gays can't can't married we're cool.  Artiechoke   Jan-06-09 04:38 PM   #164 
  - "Bleeding-heart liberals". Another one we can thank Reagan for.  Artiechoke   Jan-06-09 04:41 PM   #165 
  - You're right, of course, but look how many "progressives" actually repeat the Raygun stuff.  bobbolink   Jan-06-09 07:25 PM   #168 
     - Sad but disheartening true.  Artiechoke   Jan-06-09 11:48 PM   #171 
  - Peace......Or Poverty?  bobbolink   Jan-06-09 05:42 PM   #166 
  - maybe cliche, but true  maryf   Jan-06-09 09:31 PM   #170 
  - Hey Jeff, won't there be a Poverty Month Essay, Friday??  maryf   Jan-07-09 04:07 PM   #172 
  - a kick on a Thursday evening.  Old Crusoe   Jan-08-09 09:55 PM   #173 
  - As to the least ot these, then as to me. Etc.  Old Crusoe   Jan-09-09 08:52 AM   #174 
  - you're making Prosperity Jesus cry.  ulysses   Jan-09-09 03:38 PM   #177 
     - LOL! 'Prosperity Jesus" !!  Old Crusoe   Jan-09-09 07:50 PM   #182 
        - he's the savior of suburbia.  ulysses   Jan-09-09 08:13 PM   #184 
  - Couldn't find Hannah Bell's thread  redqueen   Jan-09-09 05:37 PM   #178 
  - .....  bobbolink   Jan-09-09 05:59 PM   #179 
  - Bobbie, can you PM when that thread is posted?  ulysses   Jan-09-09 06:32 PM   #181 
     - Here's a link...  redqueen   Jan-10-09 11:10 AM   #186 
  - When is poverty going to be linked with shame?  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Jan-09-09 07:58 PM   #183 
  - Progressives have choices. They can take their shoes off and toss them  Old Crusoe   Jan-10-09 07:01 AM   #185 
  - How very well said! We show our morality with our choices!  bobbolink   Jan-10-09 12:26 PM   #187 
  - We are spirits in the material world, as the  Old Crusoe   Jan-11-09 06:59 AM   #188 
  - but treated as commodities in this society.  bobbolink   Jan-12-09 06:25 PM   #189 
  - This is the kind of DU post I hope DUers will  Old Crusoe   Jan-14-09 04:11 AM   #190 
 

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