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Sat Jan-03-09 03:03 PM
Response to Reply #129 |
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You are one of the good guys.
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| -Poverty in America: Truth Hurts, Ignorance Kills |
JeffR |
Jan-02-09 04:09 PM |
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a BIG Rec, and thank you! |
G_j |
Jan-02-09 04:11 PM |
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Off to the GP ... |
NanceGreggs |
Jan-02-09 04:14 PM |
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"the fierce urgency of now." |
bobbolink |
Jan-02-09 04:14 PM |
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Trickle-down economics supports social Darwinism... |
AntiFascist |
Jan-02-09 04:16 PM |
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"The fierce urgency of now", and it's going to get worse. Rec'd for more eyes. nt |
babylonsister |
Jan-02-09 04:18 PM |
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Much worse... |
Baby Snooks |
Jan-03-09 01:20 PM |
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Good comments on poor-bashing, Baby Snooks! |
offog |
Jan-03-09 03:44 PM |
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K&R |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-02-09 04:18 PM |
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K&R This is why I am a democrat. nt |
anonymous171 |
Jan-02-09 04:21 PM |
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When altruism begins to exist, a utopia is possible. Right now, it isn't. |
pl259 |
Jan-02-09 04:21 PM |
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Not sure that altruism is needed. just plain common sense. |
truedelphi |
Jan-09-09 02:28 PM |
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To Sapphire Blue |
yellerpup |
Jan-02-09 04:22 PM |
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YEs, absolutely. Sapphire Blue tried so hard to get DUers to respond |
bobbolink |
Jan-02-09 04:32 PM |
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This is what I remember about being broke and the mental effect |
yellerpup |
Jan-02-09 08:18 PM |
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Amazing story. |
JNelson6563 |
Jan-03-09 10:22 AM |
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Thank you. |
yellerpup |
Jan-03-09 01:56 PM |
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Daily, I am humbled by the strength and goodness of others. |
wellstone dem |
Jan-02-09 04:25 PM |
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Thank you for sharing your story about Joan. n/t |
truedelphi |
Jan-02-09 07:52 PM |
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Thank you for sharing that story, wellstone dem |
JeffR |
Jan-03-09 11:55 AM |
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Thanks for this post. |
JNelson6563 |
Jan-03-09 02:02 PM |
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Don't forget the quiet twin: Mental illness no laughing matter for one comedian |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-02-09 04:27 PM |
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That's just increasing the stigma... it's time to stop this untruth. |
bobbolink |
Jan-02-09 04:37 PM |
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With respect, bobbolink, you may associate mental illness with stigma. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-02-09 04:39 PM |
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And what you're doing is increasing the stigma. |
bobbolink |
Jan-02-09 04:43 PM |
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Actually, you are asking those of us who deal with poverty BECAUSE |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-02-09 04:47 PM |
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16% |
MartyL |
Jan-02-09 06:30 PM |
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16 % |
maryf |
Jan-02-09 07:11 PM |
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also... |
Two Americas |
Jan-02-09 07:18 PM |
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Wonderful post. |
Naturyl |
Jan-02-09 07:53 PM |
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You are confusing mental illness with sociopathy. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-03-09 03:34 AM |
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Good points, TwoAmericas. |
Kajsa |
Jan-03-09 09:27 AM |
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Btw, |
Kajsa |
Jan-03-09 12:02 PM |
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A very gentle but emphatic "thank you", kajsa! |
bobbolink |
Jan-06-09 04:32 PM |
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"the first thing they need is a home" |
MartyL |
Jan-02-09 08:53 PM |
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Empty homes+ people who have no home, |
Kajsa |
Jan-03-09 12:23 PM |
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SAMHSA say 39% reporting with 20-25% meeting the criteria for severe mental illness. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-03-09 03:31 AM |
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they have an agenda |
Two Americas |
Jan-03-09 03:55 AM |
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In the years I've worked on both problems, I've found SAMHSA |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-03-09 02:37 PM |
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no problem |
Two Americas |
Jan-03-09 03:02 PM |
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Here in Michigan |
JNelson6563 |
Jan-03-09 08:06 AM |
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yes and no |
Two Americas |
Jan-02-09 07:21 PM |
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K&R n/t |
timeforarevolution |
Jan-03-09 05:20 PM |
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Mental illness is on par with inadequate healthcare system we have in America. |
glowing |
Jan-02-09 06:08 PM |
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cause, or effect? |
Two Americas |
Jan-02-09 07:11 PM |
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catch 22 |
maryf |
Jan-02-09 07:20 PM |
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Aspen |
Two Americas |
Jan-02-09 07:29 PM |
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those are the people |
maryf |
Jan-02-09 07:32 PM |
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So true. Thank heavens I'm a "loser." |
Naturyl |
Jan-02-09 07:56 PM |
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This is so interesting, because if you were to lable a poor person |
midnight |
Jan-02-09 09:04 PM |
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You are interpreting mental illness as some kind of blame. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-03-09 03:37 AM |
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no I 'm not |
Two Americas |
Jan-03-09 02:25 PM |
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I fought the mental health establishment for more than a decade |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-03-09 02:51 PM |
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understood |
Two Americas |
Jan-03-09 03:03 PM |
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there was a time, not so long ago . . . |
OneBlueSky |
Jan-02-09 04:28 PM |
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Yes, "The War on Poverty"... |
dajoki |
Jan-02-09 07:25 PM |
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And yet it seems a thousand years ago now somehow. |
JeffR |
Jan-03-09 12:16 PM |
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Kick, and looking forward to reading these essays. |
cottonseed |
Jan-02-09 04:31 PM |
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If we stand behind the Human Rights Declaration, then we begin to unify our voices as one: |
glowing |
Jan-02-09 04:33 PM |
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December 10, 1948, and here we are. |
bobbolink |
Jan-02-09 04:46 PM |
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If only, indeed. |
glowing |
Jan-02-09 05:01 PM |
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June 27, 1936 |
Two Americas |
Jan-02-09 07:50 PM |
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Very good point, glowing. |
JeffR |
Jan-03-09 12:20 PM |
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Thank you. k+r, n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
Jan-02-09 04:34 PM |
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To bobbolink: |
azmouse |
Jan-02-09 04:35 PM |
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seconded n/t |
Two Americas |
Jan-02-09 07:42 PM |
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K&R |
Blue_In_AK |
Jan-02-09 04:47 PM |
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Those articles should be written into our Constitution. K&R |
Cleita |
Jan-02-09 04:48 PM |
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The way the politicians and their paymasters have accepted the homelessness |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jan-02-09 04:56 PM |
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What you say is true. But it's deeper than that. The POPULATION has accepted |
bobbolink |
Jan-02-09 05:01 PM |
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Yes, you are absolutely right. My allusion to national degeneracy was |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jan-02-09 05:25 PM |
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YEs. That's the problem with a democracy. It's ALL of us... |
bobbolink |
Jan-02-09 05:35 PM |
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People only accept homelessness if their neighbor is the one that lost his house, but... |
Selatius |
Jan-02-09 07:36 PM |
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"Rugged individualism" is very much a key part of the problem. |
JeffR |
Jan-03-09 12:36 PM |
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Didn't Obama mention |
Kajsa |
Jan-03-09 12:54 PM |
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That was one of those moments when I thought |
JeffR |
Jan-03-09 01:24 PM |
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Yes it is, Jeff. |
Kajsa |
Jan-03-09 05:20 PM |
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Raygun was responsible for the homelessness of many mentally ill people |
GoddessOfGuinness |
Jan-03-09 11:45 PM |
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You are absolutely right,KCDM. |
Kajsa |
Jan-03-09 01:04 PM |
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and isn't it amazing how they are quick to cheer the soldier while he is uniform, but |
mod mom |
Jan-09-09 01:40 PM |
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HANNITY' AMERICA sure isn't MY AMERICA ! |
quidam56 |
Jan-02-09 04:58 PM |
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K&R Thank you, JeffR. |
Waiting For Everyman |
Jan-02-09 05:02 PM |
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K&R. FDR recognized the need for an expanded Bill of Rights, why don't we now? n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Jan-02-09 05:16 PM |
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K&R |
TahitiNut |
Jan-02-09 05:16 PM |
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K & R. |
Kajsa |
Jan-02-09 05:39 PM |
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This is all by design. |
Dr_eldritch |
Jan-02-09 05:41 PM |
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kick for the evening crowd |
bobbolink |
Jan-02-09 05:57 PM |
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Fantastic! JeffR, huge K&R |
maryf |
Jan-02-09 06:09 PM |
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Super post |
malaise |
Jan-02-09 06:16 PM |
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K&R |
MartyL |
Jan-02-09 06:18 PM |
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Poverty is the issue I am most passionate about |
skygazer |
Jan-02-09 06:28 PM |
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"Poor people don't have lobbyists." Nor many advocates! |
bobbolink |
Jan-06-09 06:03 PM |
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There are varied statistics on the percentages |
Kajsa |
Jan-02-09 06:46 PM |
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Poverty will not be solved by either party |
dcsmart |
Jan-02-09 06:48 PM |
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K&R for truth |
varelse |
Jan-02-09 06:51 PM |
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The 1948 UDHR is one of my favorite documents. |
HughBeaumont |
Jan-02-09 07:03 PM |
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Unfortunately it's not just the US. |
Tindalos |
Jan-02-09 07:21 PM |
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Freedom from Want |
Naturyl |
Jan-02-09 07:24 PM |
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When I read things like this, it makes me very sad to be an American. |
I Have A Dream |
Jan-02-09 07:29 PM |
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If we are loud enough for long enough, someone will hear us! |
lonestarnot |
Jan-02-09 07:32 PM |
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There are as many reasons for poverty as there are poor people |
mntleo2 |
Jan-02-09 07:39 PM |
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Great post, Cat. |
JeffR |
Jan-03-09 12:50 PM |
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Pondering here... |
maryf |
Jan-03-09 08:53 PM |
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Great post JeffR K&R!! |
dajoki |
Jan-02-09 07:48 PM |
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k and r |
Wetzelbill |
Jan-02-09 08:11 PM |
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Thank you |
junofeb |
Jan-02-09 08:17 PM |
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Kicking it back to the top. nt |
I Have A Dream |
Jan-02-09 08:57 PM |
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You just said quite a lot about our poor America and her values. |
acmavm |
Jan-02-09 08:57 PM |
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"we are taking care of the wrong end of society" |
maryf |
Jan-02-09 10:19 PM |
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"we have to force them to do it" |
JeffR |
Jan-03-09 01:06 PM |
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Will we? I don't know. Read my post down below. It wouldn't take much |
acmavm |
Jan-04-09 10:15 AM |
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Thank you for this... |
redqueen |
Jan-02-09 09:09 PM |
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A kick and a rec!!! |
20score |
Jan-02-09 09:20 PM |
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The new "welfare queen" |
lin_e65 |
Jan-02-09 09:36 PM |
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Amen! |
I Have A Dream |
Jan-02-09 10:18 PM |
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Rich Always WERE Welfare Queens |
mntleo2 |
Jan-03-09 12:04 PM |
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Well said! |
JeffR |
Jan-03-09 01:07 PM |
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Very nice thread, great idea and great research |
Number23 |
Jan-02-09 09:52 PM |
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Thanks, all, for your comments, many of them brilliant. |
JeffR |
Jan-02-09 10:46 PM |
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Brilliant writing is inspirational Jeff! |
maryf |
Jan-02-09 11:08 PM |
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K and R! |
undeterred |
Jan-02-09 11:01 PM |
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This is a splendid post. |
Old Crusoe |
Jan-02-09 11:09 PM |
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A living wage should be a basic right. |
Odin2005 |
Jan-02-09 11:13 PM |
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And those who are disabled... |
dajoki |
Jan-05-09 01:28 PM |
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K & R |
Raksha |
Jan-02-09 11:27 PM |
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"Motherhood and Childhood" -- I was gonna skim here until I saw that... |
Sparkly |
Jan-02-09 11:36 PM |
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K&R |
Artiechoke |
Jan-03-09 02:41 AM |
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K&R w/o comment |
themartyred |
Jan-03-09 04:29 AM |
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How do you measure when declaring one country "the richest nation in the world?" |
tclambert |
Jan-03-09 05:58 AM |
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besides which, where there's "wealth," there's always poverty. |
Hannah Bell |
Jan-03-09 06:07 AM |
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K&R |
JNelson6563 |
Jan-03-09 06:50 AM |
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K&R |
gollygee |
Jan-03-09 07:05 AM |
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kick |
G_j |
Jan-03-09 08:49 AM |
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K & R for the morning crew. |
michele77 |
Jan-03-09 08:50 AM |
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Another thing... |
dajoki |
Jan-03-09 09:00 AM |
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Absolutely! |
maryf |
Jan-03-09 05:31 PM |
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K&R |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Jan-03-09 09:11 AM |
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K & R |
L0oniX |
Jan-03-09 10:01 AM |
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Darn, I just went and looked to see which threads are catching the most |
acmavm |
Jan-03-09 10:35 AM |
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They've criminalized homelessness as an excuse to ignore it. |
Desertrose |
Jan-03-09 11:43 AM |
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THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR ANYONE TO BE HOMELESS FOR WHATEVER REASON. |
maryf |
Jan-04-09 09:12 AM |
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I don't like the upward defining of poverty |
hfojvt |
Jan-03-09 01:01 PM |
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The amounts you mention |
maryf |
Jan-04-09 10:41 AM |
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ah, I'm in time to rec. |
ulysses |
Jan-03-09 01:17 PM |
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great post |
dana_b |
Jan-03-09 02:17 PM |
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It is a terrible shame that our national news media gives this so little attention. |
Time for change |
Jan-03-09 02:28 PM |
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Kicking again. |
JeffR |
Jan-03-09 03:21 PM |
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Kicking |
CC |
Jan-03-09 03:36 PM |
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Kick for an important topic |
Beaverhausen |
Jan-03-09 04:39 PM |
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Kick for another evening... |
maryf |
Jan-03-09 05:27 PM |
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Kick! |
smokey nj |
Jan-03-09 05:27 PM |
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How sad |
southernyankeebelle |
Jan-03-09 05:41 PM |
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You are right but not just the working poor... |
maryf |
Jan-03-09 08:44 PM |
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Too late to recommend but a late kick n/t |
blindpig |
Jan-03-09 08:04 PM |
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Thanks! |
JeffR |
Jan-03-09 08:21 PM |
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Kick! |
JeffR |
Jan-03-09 11:18 PM |
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back up. |
ulysses |
Jan-04-09 06:50 AM |
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A kick on a Sunday morning. |
Old Crusoe |
Jan-04-09 08:52 AM |
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Kick! |
JeffR |
Jan-04-09 11:22 AM |
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kick |
dajoki |
Jan-04-09 12:48 PM |
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Kick |
maryf |
Jan-04-09 01:20 PM |
#155 |
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kick |
Beaverhausen |
Jan-04-09 02:30 PM |
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it's Sunday evening! |
ulysses |
Jan-04-09 06:57 PM |
#157 |
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kick, goddamnit! |
ulysses |
Jan-04-09 11:30 PM |
#158 |
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You tell 'em ulysses! |
bobbolink |
Jan-06-09 07:46 PM |
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can't fit it in. |
ulysses |
Jan-09-09 06:28 PM |
#180 |
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Monday morning kick. :) n/t |
timeforarevolution |
Jan-05-09 06:38 AM |
#159 |
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monday afternoon kick |
Beaverhausen |
Jan-05-09 01:54 PM |
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Monday Evening Kick nt |
maryf |
Jan-05-09 05:57 PM |
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Poverty? As long as the gays can't can't married we're cool. |
Artiechoke |
Jan-06-09 04:38 PM |
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"Bleeding-heart liberals". Another one we can thank Reagan for. |
Artiechoke |
Jan-06-09 04:41 PM |
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You're right, of course, but look how many "progressives" actually repeat the Raygun stuff. |
bobbolink |
Jan-06-09 07:25 PM |
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Sad but disheartening true. |
Artiechoke |
Jan-06-09 11:48 PM |
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Peace......Or Poverty? |
bobbolink |
Jan-06-09 05:42 PM |
#166 |
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maybe cliche, but true |
maryf |
Jan-06-09 09:31 PM |
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Hey Jeff, won't there be a Poverty Month Essay, Friday?? |
maryf |
Jan-07-09 04:07 PM |
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a kick on a Thursday evening. |
Old Crusoe |
Jan-08-09 09:55 PM |
#173 |
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As to the least ot these, then as to me. Etc. |
Old Crusoe |
Jan-09-09 08:52 AM |
#174 |
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you're making Prosperity Jesus cry. |
ulysses |
Jan-09-09 03:38 PM |
#177 |
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LOL! 'Prosperity Jesus" !! |
Old Crusoe |
Jan-09-09 07:50 PM |
#182 |
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he's the savior of suburbia. |
ulysses |
Jan-09-09 08:13 PM |
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Couldn't find Hannah Bell's thread |
redqueen |
Jan-09-09 05:37 PM |
#178 |
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..... |
bobbolink |
Jan-09-09 05:59 PM |
#179 |
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Bobbie, can you PM when that thread is posted? |
ulysses |
Jan-09-09 06:32 PM |
#181 |
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Here's a link... |
redqueen |
Jan-10-09 11:10 AM |
#186 |
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When is poverty going to be linked with shame? |
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf |
Jan-09-09 07:58 PM |
#183 |
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Progressives have choices. They can take their shoes off and toss them |
Old Crusoe |
Jan-10-09 07:01 AM |
#185 |
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How very well said! We show our morality with our choices! |
bobbolink |
Jan-10-09 12:26 PM |
#187 |
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We are spirits in the material world, as the |
Old Crusoe |
Jan-11-09 06:59 AM |
#188 |
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but treated as commodities in this society. |
bobbolink |
Jan-12-09 06:25 PM |
#189 |
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This is the kind of DU post I hope DUers will |
Old Crusoe |
Jan-14-09 04:11 AM |
#190 |
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