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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-09 11:50 AM
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39. Bells and whistles are fine by me
If Bill Gates has an expensive alarm and sprinkler system that I can't afford, I don't care--as long as we get the same fire engines in the event of fire.
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  -Why people think they like their employer-paid health insurance eridani  Jan-01-09 07:55 AM   #0 
  - People like it because the employer contributes to paying for it.  undeterred   Jan-01-09 08:07 AM   #1 
  - But employees are paying for it indirectly  eridani   Jan-01-09 08:25 AM   #10 
  - Don't forget co-pays and deductibles. It's a hose job.  geckosfeet   Jan-01-09 09:01 AM   #19 
  - That's Hardly The Question  ProfessorGAC   Jan-01-09 10:06 AM   #28 
     - Another healthy person that has never gotten expensively sick  eridani   Jan-01-09 10:54 AM   #32 
     - Try To Keep Up, Please  ProfessorGAC   Jan-02-09 11:02 AM   #76 
        - You'd get the same coverage under single payer cheaper  eridani   Jan-02-09 12:19 PM   #81 
           - I Already Said That  ProfessorGAC   Jan-02-09 06:44 PM   #84 
     - Same coverage - less cost. Probably better coverage. Try it - you will like it!  geckosfeet   Jan-01-09 11:27 AM   #36 
     - I Already Said That  ProfessorGAC   Jan-02-09 10:59 AM   #74 
     - Edward's plan was a good idea  Juche   Jan-01-09 12:38 PM   #43 
        - This is why insurance and health care are a bad marriage.  Cleita   Jan-01-09 01:48 PM   #48 
        - Insurance thieves would never tolerate the Edwards regulations  eridani   Jan-02-09 03:50 AM   #66 
  - But if we had universal health care paid for through our tax dollars, your employer  CTyankee   Jan-01-09 09:56 AM   #25 
  - Well, that's a myth.  Cleita   Jan-01-09 01:50 PM   #49 
     - No, socialized health care spreads the risk around the entire population.  CTyankee   Jan-01-09 02:11 PM   #55 
  - Would you like to pay 485 for a year? You could, in a federal system  nadinbrzezinski   Jan-01-09 01:51 PM   #50 
     - That is a private insurance scheme for healthy adult working people  eridani   Jan-02-09 03:51 AM   #67 
  - "GET the Insurance Companies OUT of the Medical decision making process.  RC   Jan-01-09 08:07 AM   #2 
  - I agree completely.  undeterred   Jan-01-09 08:09 AM   #3 
  - Are you sure that's a good idea?  MajorChode   Jan-01-09 06:49 PM   #60 
     - The profit motive would be removed.  RC   Jan-01-09 07:30 PM   #61 
     - I agree  MajorChode   Jan-01-09 09:02 PM   #62 
     - please provide a link to verify this allegation of yours  Donnachaidh   Jan-01-09 09:16 PM   #63 
        - No need to prove something I never claimed  MajorChode   Jan-02-09 09:06 AM   #73 
  - Where did you get the "Twice per Capita" cost number  FreakinDJ   Jan-01-09 08:09 AM   #4 
  - For Example...  MannyGoldstein   Jan-01-09 08:17 AM   #7 
  - Gotta love DU. Look at socialist Sweden, less than half of US.  Festivito   Jan-01-09 05:40 PM   #57 
     - Sweden has a population of 9 million. 8 million are ethnic Swedes.  deaniac21   Jan-02-09 11:14 AM   #77 
        - Then look at the next sentence. Then, who would you like to compare.  Festivito   Jan-02-09 11:57 AM   #78 
           - I'm not sure any other country in the world will compare to our  deaniac21   Jan-02-09 03:15 PM   #83 
  - Compared to McCain's tax rebate to getting rid of employer health care  dmordue   Jan-01-09 08:12 AM   #5 
  - McCain's plan was an absolute disaster. Of course you don't give up  eridani   Jan-01-09 08:26 AM   #11 
  - You Know What Though?  Crisco   Jan-02-09 12:02 PM   #79 
  - Also, Every President For The Past 28 Years Has Urged Us To Hate Government Programs  MannyGoldstein   Jan-01-09 08:13 AM   #6 
  - What's this. Your permanent file indicates a 'medical condition'. Employment Application: "Rejected"  Broadslidin   Jan-01-09 08:18 AM   #8 
  - which is why I stay where I am...  w8liftinglady   Jan-01-09 11:50 AM   #38 
  - The complexity of those policies.  cyclezealot   Jan-01-09 08:24 AM   #9 
  - It's not free. No one should believe that RW myth that free loading old people  Cleita   Jan-01-09 02:03 PM   #54 
     - Bravo  cyclezealot   Jan-02-09 03:27 AM   #65 
  - focus needs to be on people getting access to health care  radfringe   Jan-01-09 08:29 AM   #12 
  - In most other industrialized countries  eridani   Jan-01-09 08:35 AM   #14 
  - Yep, as Michael Moore pointed out in "Sicko", he only needed to travel  Cleita   Jan-01-09 01:52 PM   #51 
  - Its not healthcare here, its health management. By huge "for profit" companies. nt  cabluedem   Jan-01-09 10:05 AM   #27 
  - having just gone through the incredible BULLSHIT of signing on for Medicare D insurance program  Donnachaidh   Jan-01-09 08:35 AM   #13 
  - I am SO not looking forward to part D! n/t  eridani   Jan-01-09 08:37 AM   #16 
  - Medicare D  wiboy   Jan-01-09 11:14 AM   #33 
     - I wish I could.  Donnachaidh   Jan-01-09 12:12 PM   #41 
  - Because I don't have to pay for it  proud2Blib   Jan-01-09 08:36 AM   #15 
  - Sure you do  Donnachaidh   Jan-01-09 12:21 PM   #42 
     - Yep, like that kid with the infected tooth whose mom didn't have $80 to get it extracted  eridani   Jan-02-09 04:01 AM   #68 
  - For profit health care was abolished as an abomination in the 20th century.  kickysnana   Jan-01-09 08:41 AM   #17 
  - I would rather have employer contributions in my 401k or paycheck.  geckosfeet   Jan-01-09 08:58 AM   #18 
  - I have been trying like heck to convince my coworkers  exboyfil   Jan-01-09 09:06 AM   #20 
  - The problem is that they know nothing at all about their insurance  eridani   Jan-01-09 09:30 AM   #23 
     - k&r  area51   Jan-01-09 10:04 AM   #26 
  - Ask your doctor how s/he likes the insurance companies  Lydia Leftcoast   Jan-01-09 09:09 AM   #21 
  - My doctor openly told me that my insurance company stinks.  peace13   Jan-01-09 09:26 AM   #22 
     - Her options in that regard suck as badly as they do for other small businesses n/t  eridani   Jan-01-09 09:35 AM   #24 
     - My dentist sent his patients a letter when we changed  exboyfil   Jan-01-09 10:06 AM   #29 
     - Some are worse than others, regardless of how awesome your billing dept. is.  knitter4democracy   Jan-01-09 10:15 AM   #30 
  - recommend  xchrom   Jan-01-09 10:28 AM   #31 
  - but employers choose plans that serve THEIR interests  unblock   Jan-01-09 11:18 AM   #34 
  - True dat. Unfortunately, since they won't likely be in that situation--  eridani   Jan-01-09 11:48 AM   #37 
  - unblock, that's a gross generalization that's unfair to those employers who try to get  bertman   Jan-01-09 01:04 PM   #44 
     - of course there are exceptions, and kudos for doing what you can as an employer  unblock   Jan-01-09 01:42 PM   #47 
     - Thanks. I'm sorry to hear about your ongoing struggle to get decent treatment.  bertman   Jan-01-09 03:52 PM   #56 
        - well i get decent treatment -- eventually. but it's proof the private sector is NOT efficient  unblock   Jan-01-09 06:06 PM   #58 
           - Excellent points, unblock. Tonight I'm on a tear about the new addendum to Zeitgeist,  bertman   Jan-01-09 11:24 PM   #64 
     - And despite their best efforts, most of you STILL don't know whether it's any good  eridani   Jan-02-09 04:05 AM   #69 
  - We have supposedly great employer-paid insurance  gollygee   Jan-01-09 11:20 AM   #35 
  - Bells and whistles are fine by me  eridani   Jan-01-09 11:50 AM   #39 
  - BTW folks--change.gov is again open for questions n/t  eridani   Jan-01-09 11:51 AM   #40 
  - WITH employer-paid health insurance,my medical bills were 20,000 this year.  w8liftinglady   Jan-01-09 01:07 PM   #45 
  - I'm unsure how I feel about universal healthcare but you make some excellent points.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-01-09 01:32 PM   #46 
  - It isn't the legal system that causes doctors to do so much defensive medicine  eridani   Jan-02-09 04:16 AM   #70 
     - We had a system where I lived during college.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-02-09 11:00 AM   #75 
        - It was a disaster because it was underfunded  eridani   Jan-02-09 12:09 PM   #80 
           - It wasn't underfunded initially.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Jan-02-09 03:14 PM   #82 
              - The only way to stop underfunding of public health care is to stop the theft  eridani   Jan-04-09 08:13 AM   #85 
  - Because it is better than no insurance  gravity   Jan-01-09 01:54 PM   #52 
  - My fiancee likes her work's insurance because  WilliamPitt   Jan-01-09 01:58 PM   #53 
  - How many others on the plan get screwed because they don't get a deal like that?  eridani   Jan-02-09 04:19 AM   #71 
  - I like my employer paid health insurance  pending   Jan-01-09 06:11 PM   #59 
     - You are lucky. Insurance companies go through a great deal of trouble  eridani   Jan-02-09 04:20 AM   #72 
 

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