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caraher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 07:27 AM
Response to Reply #83
90. What are you talking about?
That's just a technical description of how ILS works. Nothing in it indicates any outrageous vulnerability to tampering. Sure, if the beacons are not doing their jobs the results can be fatal, but that's true of any number of things, and if you want to kill one person messing with ILS at their expected destination strikes me as very poor method.
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  -Larisa Alexandrovna: Mike Connell Plane Crash Update Hissyspit  Dec-25-08 04:22 PM   #0 
  - I'm not a pilot,  Richard D   Dec-25-08 04:32 PM   #1 
  - Supposedly IFR and...  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Dec-25-08 04:44 PM   #3 
  - Then certainly  Richard D   Dec-25-08 04:48 PM   #4 
  - FAA Spokesperson says Connell on ILS Approach to Runway 23  landdolphin   Dec-26-08 05:02 PM   #76 
     - Well this is quite interesting  libertypirate   Dec-26-08 09:45 PM   #83 
        - What are you talking about?  caraher   Dec-27-08 07:27 AM   #90 
           - If I were one of Rove's plumbers...  backscatter712   Dec-27-08 08:31 PM   #97 
              - You don't have to mess with the instrumentation, just fuck with the signal  libertypirate   Dec-29-08 06:47 PM   #112 
  - ???Indications are Connell died from massive traumatic injuries?  elleng   Dec-25-08 04:42 PM   #2 
  - That's the sort of thing you will have...  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Dec-25-08 04:53 PM   #5 
  - True that  Pastiche423   Dec-25-08 05:40 PM   #6 
     - Generally speaking, yes.  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Dec-25-08 05:46 PM   #8 
  - likely from being thrown i would think... the impact n/t  lala_rawraw   Dec-25-08 08:49 PM   #22 
  - Thisi s profound  malaise   Dec-25-08 05:45 PM   #7 
  - Is the inference a lack of condolences indicates foul play?  Truth Teller   Dec-25-08 06:25 PM   #12 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-25-08 08:39 PM   #18 
  - (ganging up on you all by hisself). . . . n/t  annabanana   Dec-25-08 09:05 PM   #27 
  - I think it is at least an indicator of a massive failure of simple human feeling.  annabanana   Dec-25-08 09:00 PM   #25 
     - yep...  lala_rawraw   Dec-26-08 12:06 AM   #36 
  - Where would we learn about it if condolences were offered?  creeksneakers2   Dec-25-08 07:08 PM   #15 
     - right, because  lala_rawraw   Dec-25-08 08:44 PM   #20 
     - You'd think there would have been at least a note from the leadership  annabanana   Dec-25-08 09:01 PM   #26 
        - maybe they were too busy working on the Libby pardon?  lala_rawraw   Dec-26-08 01:52 AM   #43 
  - I don't have a dog in this fight but I'm a commercial pilot and an aero engineer  antipode   Dec-25-08 05:54 PM   #9 
  - i am asking questions  lala_rawraw   Dec-25-08 08:43 PM   #19 
  - Convenient  kenfrequed   Dec-26-08 09:20 AM   #49 
  - Bunker based high power neutron beams-- I KNEW IT!!  underpants   Dec-26-08 11:48 AM   #55 
  - I Endorse Your Comments  kristopher   Dec-26-08 01:41 PM   #67 
  - About the only reasonable non-tampering scenario would be a stall.  Gregorian   Dec-25-08 06:13 PM   #10 
  - that is what  lala_rawraw   Dec-25-08 08:48 PM   #21 
     - Full throttle could also be an indication of trying to recover from a stall.  Gregorian   Dec-25-08 10:34 PM   #31 
        - he was  lala_rawraw   Dec-26-08 12:05 AM   #35 
           - 1500 feet is the minimum for practicing a stall.  Gregorian   Dec-26-08 11:18 AM   #52 
  - I heard he's going to be Ken Lay's pilot  burythehatchet   Dec-25-08 06:15 PM   #11 
  - Will Larisa respect the NTSB's findings?  Truth Teller   Dec-25-08 06:29 PM   #13 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-25-08 08:52 PM   #23 
  - I haven't attacked you at all, but...  anigbrowl   Dec-26-08 01:26 AM   #39 
  - you are right...  lala_rawraw   Dec-26-08 01:58 AM   #44 
     - Are you still talking about me?  creeksneakers2   Dec-26-08 10:09 PM   #84 
  - Your response says a lot  Truth Teller   Dec-26-08 09:47 AM   #50 
     - shrug  OnTheOtherHand   Dec-26-08 11:36 AM   #53 
     - Fate at the hand of a flagpole...  btmlndfrmr   Dec-26-08 12:47 PM   #59 
        - whatever else one says, it's a strange story  OnTheOtherHand   Dec-26-08 04:54 PM   #75 
     - dude  lala_rawraw   Dec-26-08 12:56 PM   #60 
     - NTSB Report  youngharry   Dec-26-08 01:45 PM   #68 
  - hard to trust the NTSB- consider samantha smith's crash  certainot   Dec-26-08 02:43 PM   #69 
  - One thing missing the NTSB will certainly zero in on. Pilot fatigue.  pa28   Dec-25-08 06:43 PM   #14 
  - What the...  usregimechange   Dec-25-08 07:58 PM   #16 
  - Stalling on landing approach...  catnhatnh   Dec-25-08 08:18 PM   #17 
  - would you  lala_rawraw   Dec-25-08 08:54 PM   #24 
  - First the disclaimer...I am not a pilot....I just have time around that community...  catnhatnh   Dec-25-08 11:46 PM   #33 
  - Er, no  anigbrowl   Dec-26-08 01:32 AM   #40 
  - so  lala_rawraw   Dec-26-08 01:51 AM   #42 
     - That I can't answer - I just know in general what a stall is  anigbrowl   Dec-26-08 02:43 AM   #45 
     - Stalls at low altitude are very difficult to recover from  pending   Dec-28-08 03:13 PM   #103 
  - Power for altitude, attitude for airspeed.  formercia   Dec-26-08 07:03 AM   #46 
  - At three miles out . . .  Richard D   Dec-25-08 09:53 PM   #28 
     - I would expect his altitude to be sufficient at that distance out. But..  Gregorian   Dec-25-08 10:43 PM   #32 
     - 900' AGL  hawkowl88   Dec-27-08 01:40 AM   #87 
  - K&R 13 and ALL for LaLa_RawRaw.  Octafish   Dec-25-08 10:01 PM   #29 
  - K&R  TexasObserver   Dec-25-08 10:27 PM   #30 
  - Someone has suggested it could be suicide.  Cleita   Dec-25-08 11:53 PM   #34 
  - Maybe, but you'd think that a less populated area would be preferred if so  anigbrowl   Dec-26-08 01:34 AM   #41 
  - Very good point.  Cleita   Dec-26-08 12:27 PM   #58 
  - Maybe I am naive, but the suicide element seems unlikely. Think about it. If you were  bertman   Dec-26-08 01:02 PM   #61 
  - It is a little different then that,  libertypirate   Dec-26-08 01:29 PM   #64 
  - Connell a profoundly religious man by all accounts  landdolphin   Dec-26-08 05:36 PM   #77 
  - He was a devout Catholic  lala_rawraw   Dec-26-08 04:52 PM   #73 
     - I think we can eliminate suicide from the answers to my post.  Cleita   Dec-26-08 07:51 PM   #82 
  - K&R.  bleever   Dec-26-08 12:50 AM   #37 
  - Kicked an recced for sensible, level-headed speculation and useful information  anigbrowl   Dec-26-08 01:14 AM   #38 
  - k&r  JennasLiver   Dec-26-08 08:10 AM   #47 
  - Known fuel issues with Connell's aircraft type  formercia   Dec-26-08 08:31 AM   #48 
  - Crashed on approach - hmmm, so did Wellstone.  Minnesota_Lib   Dec-26-08 10:06 AM   #51 
  - Within range. n/t  Artiechoke   Dec-26-08 11:39 AM   #54 
  - so did samantha smith-- see above  certainot   Dec-26-08 02:47 PM   #70 
  - The on the job apologist are starting to make my christmas dinner  libertypirate   Dec-26-08 11:54 AM   #56 
  - Hear Hear!!!!  mirrera   Dec-26-08 12:08 PM   #57 
  - This whole thing has bothered me since Day 1  WinstonSmith4740   Dec-26-08 01:04 PM   #62 
  - Add the one reality we know about these people...  libertypirate   Dec-26-08 01:21 PM   #63 
  - The things is, though...don't you think that if "Rove" had anything to do with either of them,  ogneopasno   Dec-26-08 01:32 PM   #65 
     - They don't learn, everything is scripted and confusion is not a  libertypirate   Dec-26-08 01:41 PM   #66 
  - K&R  MartyL   Dec-26-08 03:07 PM   #71 
  - I was just watching the interview with Patty Sharaf  leftchick   Dec-26-08 03:28 PM   #72 
  - No, I don't believe I have  lala_rawraw   Dec-26-08 04:52 PM   #74 
  - BINGO - Missing emails - that's the trail to follow me thinks  landdolphin   Dec-26-08 05:56 PM   #78 
  - someone needs to ask B*sh or others about his death seeking condolences  themartyred   Dec-26-08 06:39 PM   #79 
  - This story doesn't fly  Jambalaya   Dec-26-08 07:05 PM   #80 
  - See then this stuff starts...  libertypirate   Dec-26-08 07:20 PM   #81 
  - similar to Wellstone's crash?  annm4peace   Dec-26-08 11:17 PM   #85 
  - Finally, after reading 85+ messages on this thread and some other threads,  higher class   Dec-27-08 12:57 AM   #86 
     - I don't think they need to mess with the airplane to get pilot error  libertypirate   Dec-27-08 02:25 AM   #88 
     - no, we don't know several of these things  OnTheOtherHand   Dec-27-08 08:08 AM   #91 
     - i see well founded suspicions and speculation  certainot   Dec-27-08 09:41 AM   #93 
        - yeah, sure you do  OnTheOtherHand   Dec-27-08 10:55 AM   #94 
           - so you find absolute satisfaction in the catch 22  certainot   Dec-27-08 07:11 PM   #95 
              - you're putting lots of words in my mouth  OnTheOtherHand   Dec-27-08 08:05 PM   #96 
                 - OK, here's an example  certainot   Dec-28-08 11:53 AM   #98 
                    - "connell was apparently getting ready to make the statements"  Wilms   Dec-28-08 12:04 PM   #99 
                    - LOL  OnTheOtherHand   Dec-28-08 01:13 PM   #101 
                    - so is the "mob boss pissed at witness" scenario a movie fiction?  certainot   Dec-29-08 11:28 AM   #104 
                       - is "boy meets girl" a movie fiction?  OnTheOtherHand   Dec-29-08 11:57 AM   #108 
                    - the left is 'marginalized'  certainot   Dec-29-08 11:50 AM   #106 
                    - "connell was apparently getting ready..."  OnTheOtherHand   Dec-28-08 01:05 PM   #100 
                       - you moved the goalposts out of the stadium  certainot   Dec-29-08 11:40 AM   #105 
                          - then, with respect, you don't read very well  OnTheOtherHand   Dec-29-08 11:56 AM   #107 
                             - i though 'doing something wrong' referred to his  certainot   Dec-29-08 12:25 PM   #109 
                                - OK, slow down  OnTheOtherHand   Dec-29-08 04:56 PM   #110 
     - Funny how people take the time to post on DU and don't see any reason  higher class   Dec-27-08 09:18 AM   #92 
  - Excellent reporting Larissa  msfiddlestix   Dec-27-08 02:41 AM   #89 
  - In regards to the propeller  pending   Dec-28-08 01:36 PM   #102 
     - If you want to quantify how or why something happened then you  libertypirate   Dec-29-08 06:30 PM   #111 
 

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