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Thu Dec-25-08 04:42 PM
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| 2. ???Indications are Connell died from massive traumatic injuries? |
| -Larisa Alexandrovna: Mike Connell Plane Crash Update |
Hissyspit |
Dec-25-08 04:22 PM |
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I'm not a pilot, |
Richard D |
Dec-25-08 04:32 PM |
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Supposedly IFR and... |
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf |
Dec-25-08 04:44 PM |
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Then certainly |
Richard D |
Dec-25-08 04:48 PM |
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FAA Spokesperson says Connell on ILS Approach to Runway 23 |
landdolphin |
Dec-26-08 05:02 PM |
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Well this is quite interesting |
libertypirate |
Dec-26-08 09:45 PM |
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What are you talking about? |
caraher |
Dec-27-08 07:27 AM |
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If I were one of Rove's plumbers... |
backscatter712 |
Dec-27-08 08:31 PM |
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You don't have to mess with the instrumentation, just fuck with the signal |
libertypirate |
Dec-29-08 06:47 PM |
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???Indications are Connell died from massive traumatic injuries? |
elleng |
Dec-25-08 04:42 PM |
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That's the sort of thing you will have... |
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf |
Dec-25-08 04:53 PM |
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True that |
Pastiche423 |
Dec-25-08 05:40 PM |
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Generally speaking, yes. |
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf |
Dec-25-08 05:46 PM |
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likely from being thrown i would think... the impact n/t |
lala_rawraw |
Dec-25-08 08:49 PM |
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Thisi s profound |
malaise |
Dec-25-08 05:45 PM |
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Is the inference a lack of condolences indicates foul play? |
Truth Teller |
Dec-25-08 06:25 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-25-08 08:39 PM |
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(ganging up on you all by hisself). . . . n/t |
annabanana |
Dec-25-08 09:05 PM |
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I think it is at least an indicator of a massive failure of simple human feeling. |
annabanana |
Dec-25-08 09:00 PM |
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yep... |
lala_rawraw |
Dec-26-08 12:06 AM |
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Where would we learn about it if condolences were offered? |
creeksneakers2 |
Dec-25-08 07:08 PM |
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right, because |
lala_rawraw |
Dec-25-08 08:44 PM |
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You'd think there would have been at least a note from the leadership |
annabanana |
Dec-25-08 09:01 PM |
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maybe they were too busy working on the Libby pardon? |
lala_rawraw |
Dec-26-08 01:52 AM |
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I don't have a dog in this fight but I'm a commercial pilot and an aero engineer |
antipode |
Dec-25-08 05:54 PM |
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i am asking questions |
lala_rawraw |
Dec-25-08 08:43 PM |
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Convenient |
kenfrequed |
Dec-26-08 09:20 AM |
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Bunker based high power neutron beams-- I KNEW IT!! |
underpants |
Dec-26-08 11:48 AM |
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I Endorse Your Comments |
kristopher |
Dec-26-08 01:41 PM |
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About the only reasonable non-tampering scenario would be a stall. |
Gregorian |
Dec-25-08 06:13 PM |
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that is what |
lala_rawraw |
Dec-25-08 08:48 PM |
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Full throttle could also be an indication of trying to recover from a stall. |
Gregorian |
Dec-25-08 10:34 PM |
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he was |
lala_rawraw |
Dec-26-08 12:05 AM |
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1500 feet is the minimum for practicing a stall. |
Gregorian |
Dec-26-08 11:18 AM |
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I heard he's going to be Ken Lay's pilot |
burythehatchet |
Dec-25-08 06:15 PM |
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Will Larisa respect the NTSB's findings? |
Truth Teller |
Dec-25-08 06:29 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Dec-25-08 08:52 PM |
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I haven't attacked you at all, but... |
anigbrowl |
Dec-26-08 01:26 AM |
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you are right... |
lala_rawraw |
Dec-26-08 01:58 AM |
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Are you still talking about me? |
creeksneakers2 |
Dec-26-08 10:09 PM |
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Your response says a lot |
Truth Teller |
Dec-26-08 09:47 AM |
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shrug |
OnTheOtherHand |
Dec-26-08 11:36 AM |
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Fate at the hand of a flagpole... |
btmlndfrmr |
Dec-26-08 12:47 PM |
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whatever else one says, it's a strange story |
OnTheOtherHand |
Dec-26-08 04:54 PM |
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dude |
lala_rawraw |
Dec-26-08 12:56 PM |
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NTSB Report |
youngharry |
Dec-26-08 01:45 PM |
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hard to trust the NTSB- consider samantha smith's crash |
certainot |
Dec-26-08 02:43 PM |
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One thing missing the NTSB will certainly zero in on. Pilot fatigue. |
pa28 |
Dec-25-08 06:43 PM |
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What the... |
usregimechange |
Dec-25-08 07:58 PM |
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Stalling on landing approach... |
catnhatnh |
Dec-25-08 08:18 PM |
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would you |
lala_rawraw |
Dec-25-08 08:54 PM |
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First the disclaimer...I am not a pilot....I just have time around that community... |
catnhatnh |
Dec-25-08 11:46 PM |
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Er, no |
anigbrowl |
Dec-26-08 01:32 AM |
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so |
lala_rawraw |
Dec-26-08 01:51 AM |
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That I can't answer - I just know in general what a stall is |
anigbrowl |
Dec-26-08 02:43 AM |
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Stalls at low altitude are very difficult to recover from |
pending |
Dec-28-08 03:13 PM |
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Power for altitude, attitude for airspeed. |
formercia |
Dec-26-08 07:03 AM |
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At three miles out . . . |
Richard D |
Dec-25-08 09:53 PM |
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I would expect his altitude to be sufficient at that distance out. But.. |
Gregorian |
Dec-25-08 10:43 PM |
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900' AGL |
hawkowl88 |
Dec-27-08 01:40 AM |
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K&R 13 and ALL for LaLa_RawRaw. |
Octafish |
Dec-25-08 10:01 PM |
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K&R |
TexasObserver |
Dec-25-08 10:27 PM |
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Someone has suggested it could be suicide. |
Cleita |
Dec-25-08 11:53 PM |
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Maybe, but you'd think that a less populated area would be preferred if so |
anigbrowl |
Dec-26-08 01:34 AM |
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Very good point. |
Cleita |
Dec-26-08 12:27 PM |
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Maybe I am naive, but the suicide element seems unlikely. Think about it. If you were |
bertman |
Dec-26-08 01:02 PM |
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It is a little different then that, |
libertypirate |
Dec-26-08 01:29 PM |
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Connell a profoundly religious man by all accounts |
landdolphin |
Dec-26-08 05:36 PM |
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He was a devout Catholic |
lala_rawraw |
Dec-26-08 04:52 PM |
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I think we can eliminate suicide from the answers to my post. |
Cleita |
Dec-26-08 07:51 PM |
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K&R. |
bleever |
Dec-26-08 12:50 AM |
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Kicked an recced for sensible, level-headed speculation and useful information |
anigbrowl |
Dec-26-08 01:14 AM |
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k&r |
JennasLiver |
Dec-26-08 08:10 AM |
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Known fuel issues with Connell's aircraft type |
formercia |
Dec-26-08 08:31 AM |
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Crashed on approach - hmmm, so did Wellstone. |
Minnesota_Lib |
Dec-26-08 10:06 AM |
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Within range. n/t |
Artiechoke |
Dec-26-08 11:39 AM |
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so did samantha smith-- see above |
certainot |
Dec-26-08 02:47 PM |
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The on the job apologist are starting to make my christmas dinner |
libertypirate |
Dec-26-08 11:54 AM |
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Hear Hear!!!! |
mirrera |
Dec-26-08 12:08 PM |
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This whole thing has bothered me since Day 1 |
WinstonSmith4740 |
Dec-26-08 01:04 PM |
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Add the one reality we know about these people... |
libertypirate |
Dec-26-08 01:21 PM |
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The things is, though...don't you think that if "Rove" had anything to do with either of them, |
ogneopasno |
Dec-26-08 01:32 PM |
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They don't learn, everything is scripted and confusion is not a |
libertypirate |
Dec-26-08 01:41 PM |
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K&R |
MartyL |
Dec-26-08 03:07 PM |
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I was just watching the interview with Patty Sharaf |
leftchick |
Dec-26-08 03:28 PM |
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No, I don't believe I have |
lala_rawraw |
Dec-26-08 04:52 PM |
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BINGO - Missing emails - that's the trail to follow me thinks |
landdolphin |
Dec-26-08 05:56 PM |
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someone needs to ask B*sh or others about his death seeking condolences |
themartyred |
Dec-26-08 06:39 PM |
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This story doesn't fly |
Jambalaya |
Dec-26-08 07:05 PM |
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See then this stuff starts... |
libertypirate |
Dec-26-08 07:20 PM |
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similar to Wellstone's crash? |
annm4peace |
Dec-26-08 11:17 PM |
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Finally, after reading 85+ messages on this thread and some other threads, |
higher class |
Dec-27-08 12:57 AM |
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I don't think they need to mess with the airplane to get pilot error |
libertypirate |
Dec-27-08 02:25 AM |
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no, we don't know several of these things |
OnTheOtherHand |
Dec-27-08 08:08 AM |
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i see well founded suspicions and speculation |
certainot |
Dec-27-08 09:41 AM |
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yeah, sure you do |
OnTheOtherHand |
Dec-27-08 10:55 AM |
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so you find absolute satisfaction in the catch 22 |
certainot |
Dec-27-08 07:11 PM |
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you're putting lots of words in my mouth |
OnTheOtherHand |
Dec-27-08 08:05 PM |
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OK, here's an example |
certainot |
Dec-28-08 11:53 AM |
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"connell was apparently getting ready to make the statements" |
Wilms |
Dec-28-08 12:04 PM |
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LOL |
OnTheOtherHand |
Dec-28-08 01:13 PM |
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so is the "mob boss pissed at witness" scenario a movie fiction? |
certainot |
Dec-29-08 11:28 AM |
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is "boy meets girl" a movie fiction? |
OnTheOtherHand |
Dec-29-08 11:57 AM |
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the left is 'marginalized' |
certainot |
Dec-29-08 11:50 AM |
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"connell was apparently getting ready..." |
OnTheOtherHand |
Dec-28-08 01:05 PM |
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you moved the goalposts out of the stadium |
certainot |
Dec-29-08 11:40 AM |
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then, with respect, you don't read very well |
OnTheOtherHand |
Dec-29-08 11:56 AM |
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i though 'doing something wrong' referred to his |
certainot |
Dec-29-08 12:25 PM |
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OK, slow down |
OnTheOtherHand |
Dec-29-08 04:56 PM |
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Funny how people take the time to post on DU and don't see any reason |
higher class |
Dec-27-08 09:18 AM |
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Excellent reporting Larissa |
msfiddlestix |
Dec-27-08 02:41 AM |
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In regards to the propeller |
pending |
Dec-28-08 01:36 PM |
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If you want to quantify how or why something happened then you |
libertypirate |
Dec-29-08 06:30 PM |
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