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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 06:31 AM
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30. Civil rights for all is a "luxury"?
First of all, it's not like this society and government can't focus on multiple issues at once. Secondly, if you're worried about the economy, gee, think of all the money that gay marriage and divorce will bring in. Why should we in the straight world pay to have serial relationships that have a 50/50 chance of fucking up, and we get to pay for getting out of them?

African Americans didn't put aside their push for civil rights though there was a depression on, a war on, whatever. Neither should our LGBT brothers and sisters. This country can multitask.
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  -Why I am not all upset about Prop 8 and Warren. zeemike  Dec-20-08 05:49 AM   #0 
  - strate person says Wait, your rights are not important  mitchtv   Dec-20-08 05:53 AM   #1 
  - It is not about you and not about me  zeemike   Dec-20-08 06:01 AM   #9 
  - Umm, civil rights for all, black, white, male, female, straight, gay IS fundamental  MadHound   Dec-20-08 06:19 AM   #19 
     - No it is not fundamental.  zeemike   Dec-20-08 06:29 AM   #29 
        - Wow, do you even read what you post?  MadHound   Dec-20-08 06:35 AM   #35 
        - You don't know what "civil rights" means.  mondo joe   Dec-20-08 08:28 AM   #94 
  - thanks. if that person's rights mean nothing to you  cali   Dec-20-08 06:02 AM   #10 
  - not this shit again.  cali   Dec-20-08 05:53 AM   #2 
  - Ding ding ding!  I Have A Dream   Dec-20-08 05:56 AM   #3 
  - .  Toasterlad   Dec-20-08 10:07 AM   #112 
  - so basically you are telling gay folks  Mari333   Dec-20-08 05:58 AM   #4 
  - Nice list  BeFree   Dec-20-08 06:40 AM   #40 
     - Warren is 100% against any gay person recieving the benefits of that list  Mari333   Dec-20-08 06:44 AM   #44 
     - Honoured?  BeFree   Dec-20-08 07:08 AM   #62 
        - So you're honoring him as "the top leader of the fundies"  Dinkeldog   Dec-20-08 08:25 AM   #92 
        - I'm not  BeFree   Dec-20-08 09:16 AM   #103 
        - have you seen Warren on television lately?  Neecy   Dec-20-08 08:53 AM   #100 
        - Well  BeFree   Dec-20-08 09:20 AM   #104 
           - oh. my. god.  Neecy   Dec-20-08 09:48 AM   #107 
           - No need to be exposed?  BeFree   Dec-20-08 09:58 AM   #108 
              - you are selectively quoting  Neecy   Dec-20-08 10:05 AM   #110 
                 - Wrong  BeFree   Dec-20-08 10:11 AM   #116 
                    - oh, okay  Neecy   Dec-20-08 10:20 AM   #120 
                       - Oh, he talks about me, too  BeFree   Dec-20-08 11:14 AM   #126 
           - he is being honoured for his views, not exposed. n/t  Mari333   Dec-20-08 11:17 AM   #127 
              - He is being exposed.  BeFree   Dec-20-08 11:28 AM   #128 
                 - you are speaking out of your ass  mitchtv   Dec-20-08 01:08 PM   #136 
        - baptist press thinks its wonderful as does richard land  Mari333   Dec-20-08 12:40 PM   #132 
     - Well said. nt  kstewart33   Dec-20-08 06:48 AM   #49 
  - keep your powder dry boys!  whirlygigspin   Dec-20-08 05:58 AM   #5 
  - Same argument from last night. Here is my rebuttle (again)  lapfog_1   Dec-20-08 05:58 AM   #6 
  - Can we have a small smidge of perspective here?  kstewart33   Dec-20-08 06:43 AM   #41 
  - What you meant to say  lapfog_1   Dec-20-08 07:14 AM   #67 
  - Are we reading the same board?  NWHarkness   Dec-20-08 09:39 AM   #105 
  - You do realize that in the great depression black people were  zeemike   Dec-20-08 07:04 AM   #61 
     - I see.. Slavery made a comeback in the 1930s did it?  lapfog_1   Dec-20-08 07:19 AM   #69 
        - Comeback? it was never eliminated in the first place.  zeemike   Dec-20-08 07:31 AM   # 
  - Did I say, 'Thanks?'  elleng   Dec-20-08 06:00 AM   #7 
  - yeah thanks for belittling my rights too  mitchtv   Dec-20-08 06:11 AM   #13 
     - Exactly WHICH rights of 'yours' have I belittled, mitch?  elleng   Dec-20-08 06:14 AM   #15 
  - You immediately insult minorities by minimizing their struggle  cboy4   Dec-20-08 06:01 AM   #8 
  - People like me?  zeemike   Dec-20-08 06:13 AM   #14 
     - Yeah, and African Americans had the same sort of crap thrown at them as you are throwing out here  MadHound   Dec-20-08 06:17 AM   #16 
     - Wrooong Spot  cboy4   Dec-20-08 01:08 PM   #135 
     - and how would you feel if Obama had put a racist preacher up there? n/t  Mari333   Dec-20-08 06:17 AM   #17 
     - you mean one like his old pastor?  zeemike   Dec-20-08 07:11 AM   #65 
        - Wright isn't a racist  Terran   Dec-20-08 10:04 AM   #109 
           - You don't get it...the right wing thinks he is  zeemike   Dec-20-08 12:04 PM   #131 
     - yup, Blacks won their civil rights by shrugging it off...  progdonkey   Dec-20-08 06:25 AM   #24 
     - I will be glad to tell you  zeemike   Dec-20-08 06:37 AM   #36 
        - and how did they get those jobs?!  progdonkey   Dec-20-08 06:48 AM   #48 
           - I know exactly how they got those jobs  zeemike   Dec-20-08 07:19 AM   #70 
              - Because only in a good economy should a supressed minority ask for their rights.  lapfog_1   Dec-20-08 07:41 AM   #78 
                 - Black people have been asking for there rights seance the civil war  zeemike   Dec-20-08 08:23 AM   #91 
     - How about answering my question/comments zeemike, instead  cboy4   Dec-20-08 06:34 AM   #34 
        - I'm not seeing the corner that zeemike's pinned into.  kstewart33   Dec-20-08 06:52 AM   #52 
  - "Why I am not all upset about Prop 8 and Warren."  Behind the Aegis   Dec-20-08 06:03 AM   #11 
  - Well thank you for judging me  zeemike   Dec-20-08 06:20 AM   #20 
     - You throw out bullshit like that OP, you get what you get.  Behind the Aegis   Dec-20-08 06:27 AM   #26 
  - Spoken like a man who takes his right to get married for granted  MadHound   Dec-20-08 06:06 AM   #12 
  - Kick & Recommended!  pnorman   Dec-20-08 06:19 AM   #18 
  - Good, nice to see that you're willing to throw a group of people under the bus for the greater good  MadHound   Dec-20-08 06:21 AM   #21 
     - Suitably filed! But hey! Thanks for honoring me with your Holier Than Thou response!  pnorman   Dec-20-08 06:27 AM   #27 
        - No problem, thanks for throwing an entire group of people under the bus  MadHound   Dec-20-08 06:37 AM   #37 
           - Here was my very first contribution to this topic:  pnorman   Dec-20-08 06:53 AM   #53 
              - Sorry, but Obama, and to a greater or lesser extent any president elect,  MadHound   Dec-20-08 07:01 AM   #58 
                 - Actually, the National Organization for Women (NOW)  lapfog_1   Dec-20-08 07:50 AM   #82 
  - False choice  Mister Ed   Dec-20-08 06:23 AM   #22 
  - Try not to get too invested in your thesis, if you are a liberal you might get it some day.  burythehatchet   Dec-20-08 06:24 AM   #23 
  - No One Wins With This One...  KharmaTrain   Dec-20-08 06:26 AM   #25 
  - Civil rights for all is a "luxury"?  MadHound   Dec-20-08 06:31 AM   #30 
  - Not From What I Read On DU...  KharmaTrain   Dec-20-08 06:54 AM   #54 
     - Well, first of all, don't judge the state of the nation via DU, that's your first mistake  MadHound   Dec-20-08 07:08 AM   #63 
        - Nice Try...  KharmaTrain   Dec-20-08 07:21 AM   #71 
           - Same argument was used to pass the Patriot Act.  lapfog_1   Dec-20-08 08:03 AM   #86 
  - "I wish we had the luxury to focus on social issues..."  Behind the Aegis   Dec-20-08 06:32 AM   #31 
  - I'm Not Dismissing A Damn Thing...  KharmaTrain   Dec-20-08 06:46 AM   #45 
     - Meanwhile, as those people in homes continue to live  MadHound   Dec-20-08 06:50 AM   #50 
     - Killed In The Streets?  KharmaTrain   Dec-20-08 07:01 AM   #59 
        - And here it is!  Behind the Aegis   Dec-20-08 07:15 AM   #68 
           - Disinviting Him Doesn't Make Him Go Away...  KharmaTrain   Dec-20-08 07:31 AM   #74 
     - Then, if the comments were about Jews?  Behind the Aegis   Dec-20-08 06:57 AM   #56 
        - I Was In NOLA Last April  KharmaTrain   Dec-20-08 07:45 AM   #80 
  - Well thanks for saying it in a better way  zeemike   Dec-20-08 06:52 AM   #51 
  - Amen...  KharmaTrain   Dec-20-08 07:11 AM   #64 
  - Very well said.  kstewart33   Dec-20-08 06:55 AM   #55 
  - Thanks for explaining. That's why not another gay $ of mine will go to Obama, or the DNC  mondo joe   Dec-20-08 08:53 AM   #99 
  - You are asking people to be unselfish and that is not the nature of those  Sex Pistol   Dec-20-08 06:28 AM   #28 
  - yes, those selfish black people wanting civil rights...  Mari333   Dec-20-08 06:32 AM   #32 
  - I haven't seen any signs on water fountains or lunch counters indicating  Sex Pistol   Dec-20-08 06:38 AM   #38 
  - No, just a sign on the church door, the marriage rolls, the hospital, the insurance agency  MadHound   Dec-20-08 06:43 AM   #42 
  - You must travel in antiquated circles. That's too bad.  Sex Pistol   Dec-20-08 07:02 AM   #60 
     - No, I just have my eyes open,  MadHound   Dec-20-08 07:12 AM   #66 
        - No, I dind't hear about it, but I don't doubt what you say.  Sex Pistol   Dec-20-08 07:31 AM   #73 
        - So homophobia is not a problem in this country?  GreenJ   Dec-20-08 07:39 AM   #77 
        - You are disgusting; stop dismissing hate crimes and leave this site now.  MN Against Bush   Dec-20-08 01:14 PM   #137 
        - Recently, a straight man in NYC was killed because he was ASSUMED to be gay.  Starbucks Anarchist   Dec-20-08 01:46 PM   #143 
        - It was in Brooklyn NY  ThinkBlue1966   Dec-20-08 10:35 AM   #123 
  - Educate yourself  Terran   Dec-20-08 10:09 AM   #114 
  - Is this about black people?  stillcool47   Dec-20-08 08:44 AM   #97 
     - Where the hell do you get that from?  GreenJ   Dec-20-08 09:40 AM   #106 
        - I think it comes from..  stillcool47   Dec-20-08 10:16 AM   #117 
  - Such as yourself?  Behind the Aegis   Dec-20-08 06:33 AM   #33 
  - You have the same rights that I have. They are called individual rights.  Sex Pistol   Dec-20-08 06:39 AM   #39 
     - Really now?  Behind the Aegis   Dec-20-08 06:44 AM   #43 
     - no , gay people do NOT have the same rights..educate yourself...  Mari333   Dec-20-08 06:47 AM   #46 
     - Thank you!  Behind the Aegis   Dec-20-08 06:48 AM   #47 
     - So you don't believe in gay marriage?  GreenJ   Dec-20-08 07:35 AM   #76 
     - My view on gay marriage mirrors the view of the leader of the Democratic Party.  Sex Pistol   Dec-20-08 07:46 AM   #81 
        - So you are against gay marriage.  GreenJ   Dec-20-08 07:54 AM   #83 
           - Take it easy on that straw man. You know, he has feelings too.  Sex Pistol   Dec-20-08 08:01 AM   #84 
              - Over myself?  GreenJ   Dec-20-08 08:03 AM   #85 
     - Quite incorrect. Gays do not have the same civil rights, as you well know.  mondo joe   Dec-20-08 08:27 AM   #93 
     - That is a bald-faced lie.  DarkTirade   Dec-20-08 09:07 AM   #102 
     - Don't be an idiot. n/t  Terran   Dec-20-08 10:10 AM   #115 
  - It's not just the GLBT community that cares about this. Unlike assholes I care about civil  GreenJ   Dec-20-08 07:34 AM   #75 
  - And how are equal rights for all not a part of the fundamentals?  BR_Parkway   Dec-20-08 06:58 AM   #57 
  - Hey straight guy!  Bluenorthwest   Dec-20-08 07:27 AM   #72 
  - Guess what? Some of us are smart enough to work on multiple issues.  GreenJ   Dec-20-08 07:43 AM   #79 
  - well..we got here by no one questioning...for about 6 years...intelligence was a thing of the past  xiamiam   Dec-20-08 08:04 AM   #87 
  - What the fuck?  Marrah_G   Dec-20-08 08:06 AM   #88 
  - Yes, our rights are not a pressing issue to most. That's true  PelosiFan   Dec-20-08 08:06 AM   #89 
  - Ok, but was your marriage just ostensibly ended by bigoted religious nuts?  Swamp Rat   Dec-20-08 08:09 AM   #90 
  - What is more pressing than the health of a child?  LeftHander   Dec-20-08 08:34 AM   #95 
  - Politics is not baseball and one must tbe able to keep one's eye...  PaulHo   Dec-20-08 08:40 AM   #96 
  - It is NOT a zero-sum game  MineralMan   Dec-20-08 08:46 AM   #98 
  - Why does it have to be prioritized for people?  terrya   Dec-20-08 09:02 AM   #101 
  - I'm not gay. But I'm not willing to let fellow "democrats" tell me to "get over it"  leftofthedial   Dec-20-08 10:07 AM   #111 
  - People Are DYING EVERY DAY Because Of This Shit, Clown.  Toasterlad   Dec-20-08 10:08 AM   #113 
  - Just another ugly re-packaging of "civil rights aren't a priority" in times of "crisis"  bullwinkle428   Dec-20-08 10:17 AM   #118 
  - In other words, "Hey Fags, Sit down and stop rocking the boat, we will get to you later"  Ioo   Dec-20-08 10:17 AM   #119 
  - Gay people need the rights associated with marriage more if the economy is bad  gollygee   Dec-20-08 10:21 AM   #121 
  - Lemme guess ....... you're straight?  Husb2Sparkly   Dec-20-08 10:21 AM   #122 
  - People like you make me sick  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Dec-20-08 10:39 AM   #124 
  - Let me guess. Signed, a white heterosexual male?  Bluebear   Dec-20-08 10:51 AM   #125 
  - I can't believe 4 DUers recommended this shit.  flvegan   Dec-20-08 11:40 AM   #129 
  - I can't believe I am reading this on DU. This is disgusting.  Midlodemocrat   Dec-20-08 12:02 PM   #130 
  - I can.  Bluebear   Dec-20-08 12:43 PM   #133 
  - Yes I have seen the light...I am a bad bad man  zeemike   Dec-20-08 01:02 PM   #134 
  - WAIT, FAGGOTS, WAIT. WE PROMISE WE'LL GET AROUND TO YOUR RIGHTS ONE DAY.  madmadmad   Dec-20-08 01:17 PM   #138 
  - Thank you...  butterfly77   Dec-20-08 01:20 PM   #139 
  - Go eff yourself.  Rockholm   Dec-20-08 01:21 PM   #140 
  - This is one of the most disgusting threads ever on DU.  MN Against Bush   Dec-20-08 01:29 PM   #141 
  - THERE ARE A LOT OF DIGUSTING THREADS RIGHT NOW.  madmadmad   Dec-20-08 01:36 PM   #142 
  - Fuck off, troll.  Starbucks Anarchist   Dec-20-08 01:49 PM   #144 
  - Locking  cbayer   Dec-20-08 02:00 PM   #145 
 

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