| 173. PIB - not membership, is how it's determined |
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percentage of Indian blood
different criterion than tribal membership which varies from tribe to tribe
usually states have separate laws for this
Hey... he should probably be with the family that legally adopted him, if in fact, they did
I don't know....
if CPS does ANY thing right, it's an accident
but I support laws that, as much as possible, place children with cultural sensitivity
That is for Foster Care... for adoption?
that is another topic... yes AND no
I withhold judgment or dogmatism when I don't have all the facts
I advise others to do the same
|
| -Baby Boy ripped from Adoptive parents and put into FOSTER CARE? |
RoadRage |
Dec-17-08 09:13 AM |
#0 |
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Political correctness gone mad. n/t |
Odin2005 |
Dec-17-08 09:17 AM |
#1 |
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I get so sick of seeing everything blamed on 'political correctness'. |
last1standing |
Dec-17-08 09:37 AM |
#14 |
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Tribal leaders are culpable too -- not just the legislators. |
pnwmom |
Dec-17-08 09:41 AM |
#17 |
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Tribal leaders can be just as short sighted as legislators. |
last1standing |
Dec-17-08 09:48 AM |
#21 |
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ACK, I wasn't saying I was against protecting their cultural heritage! |
Odin2005 |
Dec-17-08 02:18 PM |
#124 |
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The problem I had with your post was in calling it 'political correctness'. |
last1standing |
Dec-17-08 03:43 PM |
#145 |
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This has zero to do with "political correctness"... |
Dennis Donovan |
Dec-17-08 09:43 AM |
#18 |
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Excuse me, but I live on a reservation and hubby and I have |
liberalhistorian |
Dec-18-08 12:04 AM |
#189 |
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Just as rediculous as what was done to the non-full blood children back in the day. |
YOY |
Dec-17-08 09:17 AM |
#2 |
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But you'd think we'd have learned something by now, compared to |
pnwmom |
Dec-17-08 09:22 AM |
#4 |
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As bad as I feel for the Larson's |
Horse with no Name |
Dec-17-08 09:20 AM |
#3 |
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This child is just one-eighth Indian, assuming the father is white. |
pnwmom |
Dec-17-08 09:25 AM |
#7 |
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Blood percentage designations (CDIB) are not native concepts. |
yellerpup |
Dec-17-08 10:15 AM |
#32 |
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That's how Todd Palin can claim he's Eskimo |
marshall |
Dec-17-08 11:10 AM |
#55 |
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Yes, particularly the indigenous people of this continent. |
yellerpup |
Dec-17-08 01:39 PM |
#115 |
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except that my own family is not living as a tribe |
hfojvt |
Dec-17-08 11:26 AM |
#61 |
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I'm not sure what you mean..."except that" |
yellerpup |
Dec-17-08 01:42 PM |
#117 |
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One-eighth shouldn't be a big enough percentage to justify ripping a child |
pnwmom |
Dec-17-08 12:02 PM |
#76 |
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Exactly. I'm 1/8 Native American--1/16 on each side, and i'm no more |
mycritters2 |
Dec-17-08 01:16 PM |
#103 |
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The child is one-eighth through his mother. |
yellerpup |
Dec-17-08 01:53 PM |
#121 |
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I think that if the biological father was Indian, the tribal leaders would be |
pnwmom |
Dec-17-08 11:53 PM |
#184 |
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You are guessing. |
yellerpup |
Dec-18-08 07:12 AM |
#202 |
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Yeah, it's a logical guess. n/t |
pnwmom |
Dec-18-08 05:59 PM |
#216 |
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I should have answered you with more compassion |
yellerpup |
Dec-19-08 09:08 AM |
#221 |
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The Logical Reason |
RobinA |
Dec-17-08 03:04 PM |
#131 |
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The law isn't based on logic. That's the problem. n/t |
pnwmom |
Dec-17-08 11:54 PM |
#185 |
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may have guessed, but it is correct |
rebecca_herman |
Dec-18-08 04:57 PM |
#215 |
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Father Doesn't Matter |
RobinA |
Dec-17-08 03:03 PM |
#130 |
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"just" one 8th? |
Pithlet |
Dec-17-08 03:11 PM |
#133 |
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According to the article I copied & pasted.. |
RoadRage |
Dec-17-08 03:16 PM |
#136 |
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Why should 1/8 be the determining factor, ruling out the possibility of |
pnwmom |
Dec-17-08 11:56 PM |
#186 |
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Father is not Native American |
rebecca_herman |
Dec-17-08 08:36 PM |
#175 |
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I agree. This is a tough call. |
genevat |
Dec-17-08 09:25 AM |
#8 |
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in this case the kid would not be getting it's mom |
keepthemhonest |
Dec-17-08 10:00 AM |
#25 |
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And I did say that it's not always best if they are with their birth mothers. nt |
genevat |
Dec-17-08 09:28 PM |
#178 |
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I think that it is difficult for people who are not adopted at birth to understand |
me b zola |
Dec-17-08 10:17 AM |
#33 |
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But this child was NOT returned to the mother, because she's unfit. |
pnwmom |
Dec-17-08 10:23 AM |
#35 |
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good point that thinking escaped me. NT |
keepthemhonest |
Dec-17-08 10:25 AM |
#40 |
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no doubt that alot of adoptees feel that empty spot |
keepthemhonest |
Dec-17-08 10:24 AM |
#38 |
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People who grow up with their biological parents have no idea what it's like... |
genevat |
Dec-17-08 09:40 PM |
#180 |
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But this boy was not sent back to live with his biological mother, because |
pnwmom |
Dec-17-08 11:59 PM |
#187 |
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I'm not saying he won't feel loss. |
genevat |
Dec-18-08 12:15 AM |
#193 |
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I have been "in the adoptive scene" in the same sense that you have. |
pnwmom |
Dec-18-08 01:19 AM |
#196 |
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I agree with you |
rebecca_herman |
Dec-18-08 01:34 AM |
#197 |
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I hated the adoptions back then |
keepthemhonest |
Dec-18-08 08:50 AM |
#205 |
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I agree about a stable loving nurturing home being best |
me b zola |
Dec-17-08 11:07 PM |
#181 |
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agree with shoes statement |
keepthemhonest |
Dec-18-08 08:56 AM |
#207 |
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You are right. |
genevat |
Dec-17-08 09:27 PM |
#177 |
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very profound ...very sad. |
keepthemhonest |
Dec-18-08 08:54 AM |
#206 |
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I was adopted at birth |
Marrah_G |
Dec-17-08 11:56 AM |
#71 |
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I'm glad that worked out for you! |
genevat |
Dec-17-08 09:32 PM |
#179 |
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To what point? |
RoadRage |
Dec-17-08 09:28 AM |
#9 |
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I agree with you too |
Donnachaidh |
Dec-17-08 09:29 AM |
#10 |
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Why is a child who is only 1/8 Indian the property of an Indian tribe? |
pnwmom |
Dec-17-08 09:32 AM |
#11 |
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Right, |
progressoid |
Dec-17-08 09:54 AM |
#23 |
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And you are 1/16, and my kids are 1/32 Native American. |
pnwmom |
Dec-17-08 10:14 AM |
#31 |
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What if it were his father, not his mother, who was 1/4? |
uppityperson |
Dec-17-08 03:15 PM |
#134 |
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White Standards? |
RoadRage |
Dec-17-08 09:33 AM |
#12 |
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And the fact that there is legislation to this cause |
Horse with no Name |
Dec-17-08 09:34 AM |
#13 |
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Since when is having a sober mother, |
JoDog |
Dec-17-08 10:06 AM |
#30 |
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a child isn't property . Ever. |
cali |
Dec-17-08 10:26 AM |
#41 |
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Thank you. |
thecatburgler |
Dec-17-08 12:21 PM |
#88 |
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I agree. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-17-08 02:26 PM |
#127 |
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That's the basis of the law |
semillama |
Dec-17-08 10:32 AM |
#43 |
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I don't care half as much about the adoptive parents as I do the child |
cali |
Dec-17-08 10:48 AM |
#47 |
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The baby isn't being "shattered" |
semillama |
Dec-17-08 12:05 PM |
#78 |
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Of course the baby's life is being shattered. This is 6 months AFTER the |
pnwmom |
Dec-17-08 12:08 PM |
#81 |
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Seems there is more to this story than is apparent from the one article. |
uppityperson |
Dec-17-08 03:16 PM |
#135 |
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The Objibwe are a sovereign nation, but that shouldn't entitle them to declare |
pnwmom |
Dec-17-08 12:05 PM |
#79 |
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The Larsons? How about the baby? What a sad scam that the child's welfare is |
mondo joe |
Dec-17-08 09:39 AM |
#15 |
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yeah, the child will be just fine. Foster homes are just such a great |
cali |
Dec-17-08 10:23 AM |
#37 |
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As a one-eighth BQ Cherokee, I agree with you to some extent. |
Heidi |
Dec-17-08 11:33 AM |
#62 |
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But according to the OP, this boy doesn't have enough N.A. "blood" to be enrolled |
pnwmom |
Dec-17-08 11:53 AM |
#66 |
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That's not how BQ works. Your children are as American as any other |
Heidi |
Dec-17-08 11:57 AM |
#72 |
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My own children would have to apply for enrollment if they wanted their |
pnwmom |
Dec-17-08 12:19 PM |
#87 |
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Your children, then, are not the biological children of an enrolled member |
Heidi |
Dec-17-08 12:28 PM |
#90 |
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Are you saying that the Cherokee Nation will continue to enroll as members |
pnwmom |
Dec-17-08 01:06 PM |
#101 |
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EXACTLY. |
Heidi |
Dec-17-08 01:19 PM |
#104 |
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Interesting, I didn't know that. Thank you. eom |
uppityperson |
Dec-17-08 03:17 PM |
#137 |
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Thanks, Heidi. n/t |
pnwmom |
Dec-17-08 11:51 PM |
#183 |
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P.S. There's NO SUCH THING as "Cherokee blood." |
Heidi |
Dec-17-08 12:40 PM |
#93 |
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The child has a 7/8 cultural requirement to be white |
AngryAmish |
Dec-17-08 01:00 PM |
#99 |
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This isn't about race. Why do you use the term "white"? (nt) |
Heidi |
Dec-17-08 01:23 PM |
#107 |
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Why isn't it about race? He's was taken away because of his Indian "blood." |
pnwmom |
Dec-18-08 12:00 AM |
#188 |
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Well said. |
Pithlet |
Dec-17-08 03:19 PM |
#138 |
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the child is in foster care... not "with the tribe" |
Marrah_G |
Dec-17-08 11:53 AM |
#68 |
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The child is in tribal foster care |
Horse with no Name |
Dec-17-08 12:06 PM |
#80 |
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I missed that part |
Marrah_G |
Dec-17-08 12:09 PM |
#82 |
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The OP was intentionally leaving out that part |
Horse with no Name |
Dec-17-08 12:10 PM |
#83 |
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No.. the "OP" |
RoadRage |
Dec-17-08 12:48 PM |
#96 |
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THANK you for that info on TRIBAL foster care with sibs. |
uppityperson |
Dec-17-08 03:08 PM |
#132 |
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What I read was that it was "likely" that's where he'd end up. But those |
pnwmom |
Dec-18-08 12:06 AM |
#190 |
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Should the well-being of the child be sacrificed because Native American culture is in a downturn? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-17-08 12:04 PM |
#77 |
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No, the Indians do not have a right to preserve their heritage at this child's expense. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Dec-18-08 07:21 AM |
#203 |
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Someone needs to ask Ojibwa tribe leaders just how they're acting |
wienerdoggie |
Dec-17-08 09:22 AM |
#5 |
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Exactly.. |
RoadRage |
Dec-17-08 09:46 AM |
#19 |
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What utter bullshit. |
Smith_3 |
Dec-17-08 09:24 AM |
#6 |
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I live in Oklahoma |
Coyote_Bandit |
Dec-17-08 09:40 AM |
#16 |
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I lived the first 22 years of my life within the tribal boundaries of one of those tribes, |
Heidi |
Dec-17-08 11:36 AM |
#63 |
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I know when I travel |
Coyote_Bandit |
Dec-17-08 11:53 AM |
#67 |
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NA folk have no obligation to share their culture with you or anyone else. |
Heidi |
Dec-17-08 12:00 PM |
#75 |
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If memory serves me right |
Coyote_Bandit |
Dec-17-08 01:02 PM |
#100 |
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You should have gone to Bell or Park Hill, or any of the other Cherokee communities |
Heidi |
Dec-17-08 01:22 PM |
#106 |
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I |
Coyote_Bandit |
Dec-17-08 02:19 PM |
#125 |
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There are tribal colleges |
Mabus |
Dec-17-08 12:13 PM |
#86 |
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culture isn't static and it doesn't have borders. |
cali |
Dec-17-08 01:31 PM |
#111 |
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Yes culture changes |
Mabus |
Dec-17-08 01:42 PM |
#116 |
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you have an odd way of looking at culture. |
cali |
Dec-17-08 02:00 PM |
#122 |
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I gave you an example |
Mabus |
Dec-17-08 02:09 PM |
#123 |
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I think it's dangerous to indulge in your kind of mindset. |
cali |
Dec-17-08 02:21 PM |
#126 |
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Indian nations are sovereign nations and we have Obama's support |
Mabus |
Dec-17-08 02:32 PM |
#128 |
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I |
Coyote_Bandit |
Dec-17-08 02:47 PM |
#129 |
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Goddammit! Race does not exist! |
Deep13 |
Dec-17-08 09:47 AM |
#20 |
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Cultures, however, do exist. |
Heidi |
Dec-17-08 11:49 AM |
#65 |
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would it make any difference if the adoptive parents ... |
walkaway |
Dec-17-08 09:51 AM |
#22 |
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Why should a boy who is 7/8 white not be adopted out to a white family? |
pnwmom |
Dec-17-08 10:02 AM |
#26 |
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Don't go being rational, here. |
NCevilDUer |
Dec-17-08 10:02 AM |
#27 |
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Umm... |
RoadRage |
Dec-17-08 10:05 AM |
#29 |
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On the other hand, it depends on how the family, parents, grandparents, etc have lived. |
uppityperson |
Dec-17-08 03:23 PM |
#139 |
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The adoption was a voluntary placement |
rebecca_herman |
Dec-17-08 08:51 PM |
#176 |
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From Someone Who has Raised Children Of Color ... |
mntleo2 |
Dec-17-08 09:58 AM |
# |
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Few people consider a person 7/8 white to be "a person of color." |
pnwmom |
Dec-17-08 10:04 AM |
#28 |
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Believe me it is true today ~ just more subtle is all n./t |
mntleo2 |
Dec-17-08 10:43 AM |
#45 |
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Unless this kid walks around with a copy of his family tree.. |
RoadRage |
Dec-17-08 11:09 AM |
#54 |
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No, he doesn't look any more Native American than his (former) dad. n/t |
pnwmom |
Dec-17-08 11:59 AM |
#74 |
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I defy anyone to look at my red-headed, half-Irish daughter and guess that |
pnwmom |
Dec-17-08 11:58 AM |
#73 |
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BQ is a RACIST INVENTION of the early incarnations of the BIA. |
Heidi |
Dec-17-08 12:13 PM |
#85 |
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But shouldn't you be blaming the tribal leaders for being fixated on |
pnwmom |
Dec-18-08 12:12 AM |
#191 |
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Sorry, you're wrong. |
cali |
Dec-17-08 10:33 AM |
#44 |
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.I understand the intent of ICWA but, |
sojourner |
Dec-17-08 09:58 AM |
#24 |
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Sounds very much like the plot of Barbara Kingsolver's "The Bean Trees" |
Lex |
Dec-17-08 10:19 AM |
#34 |
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The problem is parental "rights" |
zipplewrath |
Dec-17-08 10:23 AM |
#36 |
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So parents should have no rights at all? |
WolverineDG |
Dec-17-08 11:04 AM |
#52 |
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Probably not what you're thinking |
zipplewrath |
Dec-19-08 07:52 AM |
#220 |
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Obama is only 1/2 Black.. but is TOTALLY |
RoadRage |
Dec-17-08 10:25 AM |
#39 |
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The mother is an enrolled member of the Leech Lake Ojibwe |
Mabus |
Dec-17-08 10:26 AM |
#42 |
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The laws need to be changed. |
cali |
Dec-17-08 10:46 AM |
#46 |
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On that we will disagree |
Mabus |
Dec-17-08 10:51 AM |
#49 |
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The child is 1/8 or less Ojibwe. |
cali |
Dec-17-08 10:53 AM |
#50 |
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I said we would disagree |
Mabus |
Dec-17-08 11:06 AM |
#53 |
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the law is the law? True enough, but that hardly makes it just or reasonable. |
cali |
Dec-17-08 11:17 AM |
#57 |
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The Indian Civil Rights Act of 1968 |
Mabus |
Dec-17-08 11:45 AM |
#64 |
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What PART of his culture? |
RoadRage |
Dec-17-08 11:12 AM |
#56 |
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I'm so glad that you have so much more insight on this than the court, the tribe and everyone else |
Mabus |
Dec-17-08 11:17 AM |
#58 |
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What the HECK? |
RoadRage |
Dec-17-08 11:23 AM |
#60 |
| -
And they are all from one perspective |
Mabus |
Dec-17-08 11:55 AM |
#69 |
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Ok... |
RoadRage |
Dec-17-08 12:44 PM |
#94 |
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The "discussion" is going nowhere because you've got your mind made up |
Mabus |
Dec-17-08 12:59 PM |
#98 |
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yep. naked and ugly political bullshit If that represents the culture |
cali |
Dec-17-08 11:18 AM |
#59 |
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There certainly needs to be repayment or refund |
SimpleTrend |
Dec-17-08 10:49 AM |
#48 |
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this is not about money. it's about the selfish and sick disruption |
cali |
Dec-17-08 10:54 AM |
#51 |
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Messing with an infant's attachments to his caregivers has grave psychological consequences |
LeftyMom |
Dec-17-08 11:56 AM |
#70 |
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Excuse me, but moving a child from adoptive parents to foster care does not impart cultural values |
peacetrain |
Dec-17-08 12:10 PM |
#84 |
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He will likely be reunited with his siblings |
Mabus |
Dec-17-08 12:30 PM |
#91 |
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Foster care is the care of last resort.. |
peacetrain |
Dec-17-08 01:44 PM |
#119 |
| -
Bad things happen in foster care |
Mabus |
Dec-17-08 01:52 PM |
#120 |
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In the immortal and eloquent words of Twisty Faster: Fuck Culture. |
thecatburgler |
Dec-17-08 12:26 PM |
#89 |
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Well, aren't you _special_, |
Heidi |
Dec-17-08 12:46 PM |
#95 |
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I didn't write it, Twisty did |
thecatburgler |
Dec-17-08 01:26 PM |
#109 |
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Depends on the culture. Many NA cultures are matrilineal. |
Heidi |
Dec-17-08 01:32 PM |
#112 |
| -
I think I'd like a little more information |
ismnotwasm |
Dec-17-08 12:39 PM |
#92 |
| -
Hey- |
RoadRage |
Dec-17-08 12:55 PM |
#97 |
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"Madrina means Aunt in Indian"? Not in my American Indian language |
Mabus |
Dec-17-08 01:09 PM |
#102 |
| -
You're correct... |
RoadRage |
Dec-17-08 01:19 PM |
#105 |
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double post |
Mabus |
Dec-17-08 01:30 PM |
#110 |
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Information about adoption and the word Madrina |
Mabus |
Dec-17-08 01:34 PM |
#113 |
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What res did they teach on? What local Indian Tribe is she still involved with? |
uppityperson |
Dec-17-08 03:53 PM |
#151 |
| -
Answers: |
RoadRage |
Dec-17-08 04:27 PM |
#161 |
| -
That was quite a place to be back then, stuff beginning to happen |
uppityperson |
Dec-17-08 04:34 PM |
#163 |
| -
My mom said it was really sad.. |
RoadRage |
Dec-17-08 04:39 PM |
#164 |
| -
Madrina means godmother in Spanish. |
Cleita |
Dec-17-08 03:26 PM |
#140 |
| -
Thanks.. |
RoadRage |
Dec-17-08 03:34 PM |
#142 |
| -
She mentioned South Dakota |
Mabus |
Dec-17-08 03:40 PM |
#144 |
| -
Hey Genius.. |
RoadRage |
Dec-17-08 03:44 PM |
#146 |
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You said it was an Indian word and you were wrong |
Mabus |
Dec-17-08 03:51 PM |
#148 |
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Dude- check post #105.. |
RoadRage |
Dec-17-08 04:06 PM |
#157 |
| -
Worse, I'm a female, American Indian with a JD |
Mabus |
Dec-17-08 04:44 PM |
#165 |
| -
Congrats! |
RoadRage |
Dec-17-08 04:50 PM |
#166 |
| -
No, I just think you're ignorant, as in uneducated. "misfortune to be born Indian" "in Indian" |
Mabus |
Dec-17-08 05:16 PM |
#168 |
| -
What does a word means something "in Indian" mean anyway? |
uppityperson |
Dec-17-08 06:31 PM |
#170 |
| -
Bingo |
Mabus |
Dec-17-08 06:50 PM |
#171 |
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wo-o-ki-yea (peace, if memory serves me) and witko (crazy) |
uppityperson |
Dec-17-08 04:05 PM |
#156 |
| -
First thing I thought of when I saw "witko" was Tesunke Witko |
Mabus |
Dec-17-08 04:14 PM |
#159 |
| -
crazy big dog (aka horse) indeed. |
uppityperson |
Dec-17-08 04:23 PM |
#160 |
| -
LOL, isn't that always the way |
Mabus |
Dec-17-08 04:58 PM |
#167 |
| -
You do know that there are lots of NA languages, not just "Indian"? |
uppityperson |
Dec-17-08 03:52 PM |
#149 |
| -
I do.. |
RoadRage |
Dec-17-08 04:04 PM |
#155 |
| -
do you know which res? |
uppityperson |
Dec-17-08 04:07 PM |
#158 |
| -
See post #161.. |
RoadRage |
Dec-17-08 04:29 PM |
#162 |
| -
... |
Mabus |
Dec-17-08 05:23 PM |
#169 |
| -
My stepmom had a child taken from her after 4 years |
nini |
Dec-17-08 01:24 PM |
#108 |
| -
Unintended consequences of a well-intentioned law |
Nikki Stone1 |
Dec-17-08 01:35 PM |
#114 |
| -
That is a stupid |
Dorian Gray |
Dec-17-08 01:43 PM |
#118 |
| -
Misleading OP. |
uppityperson |
Dec-17-08 03:27 PM |
#141 |
| -
I disagree... |
RoadRage |
Dec-17-08 03:39 PM |
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spank you. |
uppityperson |
Dec-17-08 03:47 PM |
#147 |
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I should be spanked.. |
RoadRage |
Dec-17-08 03:54 PM |
#152 |
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CPS generally, is an insane bureaucracy. Native American CPS is actually, marginally better. |
happychatter |
Dec-17-08 03:52 PM |
#150 |
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Which agency was responsible for making sure the law was followed in the first place? |
WolverineDG |
Dec-17-08 03:59 PM |
#153 |
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The child doesn't have much of indian blood. |
lizzy |
Dec-17-08 11:32 PM |
#182 |
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Because that's what they're paid to do |
WolverineDG |
Dec-18-08 06:35 AM |
#201 |
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Your reasoning is going to be a big comfort to this couple |
lizzy |
Dec-18-08 08:10 AM |
#204 |
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Then they should go after the agency |
WolverineDG |
Dec-18-08 09:38 AM |
#211 |
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How many minority children are now in racist foster homes? |
happychatter |
Dec-17-08 04:01 PM |
#154 |
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Their kid? The child looks white, and he |
lizzy |
Dec-17-08 07:07 PM |
#172 |
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PIB - not membership, is how it's determined |
happychatter |
Dec-17-08 08:00 PM |
#173 |
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PIB - not membership, is how it's determined |
happychatter |
Dec-17-08 08:00 PM |
#174 |
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"Focus on strengthening your families?" |
liberalhistorian |
Dec-18-08 12:14 AM |
#192 |
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I still feel there are problems with the law |
rebecca_herman |
Dec-18-08 12:29 AM |
#194 |
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Yes, there are problems with the law, |
liberalhistorian |
Dec-18-08 08:58 AM |
#208 |
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Well I'm not saying throw out the entire law |
rebecca_herman |
Dec-18-08 04:55 PM |
#214 |
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You do realize.. |
RoadRage |
Dec-18-08 09:30 AM |
#210 |
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I certainly do agree with you in this particular |
liberalhistorian |
Dec-18-08 09:44 AM |
#212 |
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I totally agree.. |
RoadRage |
Dec-18-08 11:27 AM |
#213 |
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hmm, just my perspective |
petersond |
Dec-18-08 12:34 AM |
#195 |
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What if the mother did not want the Tribe to raise the child? Could the Tribe claim it anyway? |
McCamy Taylor |
Dec-18-08 01:56 AM |
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It depends on what the |
petersond |
Dec-18-08 02:25 AM |
#199 |
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edit, sorry, nt |
petersond |
Dec-18-08 02:37 AM |
#200 |
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The workers are supposed to ask about Native american heritage before they place a kid |
noonwitch |
Dec-18-08 09:08 AM |
#209 |
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I live on a SD reservation and hubby and I have worked |
liberalhistorian |
Dec-18-08 06:12 PM |
#217 |
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I agree. |
Pithlet |
Dec-18-08 06:54 PM |
#218 |
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Thank you for understanding. Most of the comments would |
liberalhistorian |
Dec-19-08 11:01 PM |
#223 |
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So the child who was adopted is taken from his adoptive |
lizzy |
Dec-18-08 07:20 PM |
#219 |
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One more time, please pay attention this time |
liberalhistorian |
Dec-19-08 10:58 PM |
#222 |
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Unfortunately, there's a preference for such racially based placements. |
TexasObserver |
Dec-19-08 11:02 PM |
#224 |
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