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136. Some Democrats do suck. If ever there was a time to clearly seperate the ones who suck from
the ones who don't it was the IWR. I commend fellow DUers who point out the politicians who complied, regardless of party. And no, stating this is not saying that Democrats in general suck or are guilty to the same degree as Republicans wrt Iraq but simply that some were complicit. The firing sqaud should be aimed at the people who fucked this up, again, regardless of political party.
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  -"It is regrettable that they had to die, but I believe they did have to die." babylonsister  Dec-16-08 06:20 PM   #0 
  - Sickening  Inkyfuzzbottom   Dec-16-08 06:22 PM   #1 
  - Yes, just gross. nt  babylonsister   Dec-16-08 06:23 PM   #3 
  - where does he work and who sponsors him? sounds like he needs  roguevalley   Dec-16-08 07:30 PM   #42 
  - this bio would be funny if it were not so disgusting  leftchick   Dec-17-08 08:41 AM   #81 
     - mr gaffney is  barbtries   Dec-17-08 09:38 AM   #87 
     - Center for Security Policy: another sinister Neocon think tank.  Lasher   Dec-17-08 10:58 AM   #99 
  - Yup. And he said it like he was talking about some minor news story.  TahitiNut   Dec-16-08 07:50 PM   #45 
  - And how about all those uncounted Iraqis?  gratuitous   Dec-16-08 06:23 PM   #2 
  - Thank you. Nobody should mention American dead and leave out Iraqi dead  hfojvt   Dec-16-08 11:11 PM   #52 
  - Remember when the war started and that general said "We don't do body counts"  Sequoia   Dec-17-08 10:27 AM   #93 
  - If they that's what they think of Americans, it's understandable they don't mentions Iraqis.  riverdeep   Dec-17-08 08:26 AM   #78 
  - i can think of at least several more that have to die...  QuestionAll   Dec-16-08 06:24 PM   #4 
  - yeah...  navarth   Dec-17-08 11:21 AM   #104 
  - What a psychopath  nxylas   Dec-16-08 06:24 PM   #5 
  - He did?  Tangerine LaBamba   Dec-16-08 06:28 PM   #13 
     - Sorry, my bad  nxylas   Dec-16-08 06:30 PM   #17 
        - Cheney?  Tangerine LaBamba   Dec-16-08 06:31 PM   #19 
  - Neocon coward  sixmile   Dec-16-08 06:25 PM   #6 
  - Gaffney is the reason I can no longer abide right wingers...  47of74   Dec-16-08 06:25 PM   #7 
  - I just walked in here,  Tangerine LaBamba   Dec-16-08 06:26 PM   #8 
  - You too???  tsegat01   Dec-17-08 01:49 PM   #117 
  - remember Democrats voted to attack  ikojo   Dec-16-08 06:26 PM   #9 
  - And I thought this thread was about Madeline Albright. n/t  superduperfarleft   Dec-16-08 06:38 PM   #25 
  - That propaganda must not taste too good; I keep seeing Democrats regurgitate it  Chulanowa   Dec-16-08 07:46 PM   #44 
  - Any Democrat who believed Bush lies is too stupid to be in Congress.  Fumesucker   Dec-17-08 06:22 AM   #60 
     - Of course I didn't. But then I'm a screaming partisan  Chulanowa   Dec-17-08 01:03 PM   #112 
        - Where did I indicate that I'm not blaming Republicans?  Fumesucker   Dec-17-08 06:14 PM   #124 
           - And I have no trouble with calling out Democrats when they screw up  Chulanowa   Dec-17-08 07:03 PM   #125 
              - I see all too many "cheerleaders" on DU, willing to exuse any wrongdoing by Dems..  Fumesucker   Dec-17-08 09:17 PM   #126 
                 - So, why always do it on a thread about Republican wrongdoing?  Chulanowa   Dec-17-08 11:04 PM   #129 
                    - I haven't told you what or where to post..  Fumesucker   Dec-17-08 11:20 PM   #130 
                       - I'm not telling you to do anything  Chulanowa   Dec-17-08 11:45 PM   #132 
                          - Some Democrats do suck. If ever there was a time to clearly seperate the ones who suck from  hulka38   Dec-18-08 07:01 AM   #136 
                             - Read a few of the posts below  Chulanowa   Dec-18-08 01:32 PM   #140 
                                - I hold a low view of people who argue their point of view by setting up straw men and  hulka38   Dec-18-08 03:24 PM   #141 
                                   - Ah, the wide wide world of pronouns  Chulanowa   Dec-18-08 04:46 PM   #145 
                                      - Who are you addressing with this latest response? Is it me or someone else on this thread?  hulka38   Dec-18-08 06:07 PM   #146 
                                         - Well, point on the unfuckery  Chulanowa   Dec-19-08 05:46 AM   #149 
  - Not a majority, not in the house  hfojvt   Dec-16-08 11:32 PM   #55 
  - No - they voted for a RESOLUTION to give Bush option to invade when DETERMINED necessary for  blm   Dec-17-08 09:23 AM   #85 
  - Gee, what a shock! Bush did something untrustworthy!  RufusTFirefly   Dec-17-08 10:52 AM   #98 
     - for some Dems that is absolutely true... Some were guilty only of trusting Bill Clinton's view  blm   Dec-17-08 11:14 AM   #101 
  - No one voted to attack Iraq  karynnj   Dec-17-08 10:43 AM   #95 
  - Oh, I see. We went to war because of a "lone nut." Niiice!  RufusTFirefly   Dec-17-08 12:06 PM   #107 
     - I am not saying that the Democrats weren't wrong -  karynnj   Dec-17-08 12:21 PM   #109 
  - They voted on the basis of information sold to them as truth by  yy4me   Dec-17-08 10:47 AM   #96 
  - correct.  navarth   Dec-17-08 11:23 AM   #105 
  - No they voted for "war as a last resort." And over 130 Dems voted against the resolution vs. ONE/TWO  mzmolly   Dec-17-08 01:45 PM   #116 
     - The phrase "as a last resort" is pure political CYA rhetoric.  hulka38   Dec-18-08 07:17 AM   #137 
        - Do you read minds?  mzmolly   Dec-18-08 11:48 AM   #139 
           - The point is that it didn't take mind reading abilities or any other cosmic quackery  hulka38   Dec-18-08 03:46 PM   #142 
              - Some notable Democrats did speak privately to Bush.  mzmolly   Dec-18-08 04:31 PM   #144 
                 - mzmolly, you did much more than I by marching out there. My hat's off to you.  hulka38   Dec-18-08 06:34 PM   #147 
                    - Thank you.  mzmolly   Dec-18-08 07:21 PM   #148 
  - Spoken by a man who never served.  Botany   Dec-16-08 06:27 PM   #10 
  - the neocons put their ideals above life.....reminds me of someone else....  spanone   Dec-16-08 06:27 PM   #11 
  - One of Chris's better moments, IMO.  Steve_DeShazer   Dec-16-08 06:27 PM   #12 
  - Yes! I agree. nt  babylonsister   Dec-16-08 06:31 PM   #20 
  - Shocking, but not surprising. Please join me in recommending this thread.  faygokid   Dec-16-08 06:28 PM   #14 
  - It's sad  Third Doctor   Dec-16-08 06:31 PM   #18 
  - They will get off, it's true. It's now that I would like to be a religious person.  faygokid   Dec-16-08 06:36 PM   #24 
  - I believe if there is justice in the universe they will roast in hell. n/t  Libertyfirst   Dec-16-08 07:05 PM   #34 
  - There is the Hague....  MadMaddie   Dec-16-08 10:53 PM   #50 
  - It's disgusting and unacceptable that they will get off scot free and live in the lap of luxury for  Blue State Native   Dec-17-08 08:25 AM   #76 
  - 10-4  burythehatchet   Dec-16-08 07:06 PM   #35 
  - MEDIA EXCREMENT CAUSES RAGE  YEBBA   Dec-16-08 06:28 PM   #15 
  - what  OhioBlues   Dec-16-08 06:29 PM   #16 
  - Of course, people like these never feel that THEY or anyone they care  tblue37   Dec-16-08 07:09 PM   #37 
  - Good catch. I watched that twice already and something about it bothered me.  ColbertWatcher   Dec-16-08 06:32 PM   #21 
  - "For the Guardians Of Privilege, nothing is more important than ideology"  nxylas   Dec-17-08 07:42 AM   #70 
  - And over a million Iraqi's ..  stillcool47   Dec-16-08 06:32 PM   #22 
  - PNAC scumbucket.  Octafish   Dec-16-08 06:36 PM   #23 
  - Of course none of his relatives died  malaise   Dec-16-08 06:38 PM   #26 
  - I hope payback is coming for them all malaise.  alyce douglas   Dec-17-08 07:30 AM   #67 
     - So do I  malaise   Dec-17-08 07:45 AM   #71 
  - Cheney...  tjwash   Dec-16-08 06:40 PM   #27 
  - good insights...thanks  Blue_Tires   Dec-17-08 03:41 AM   #57 
  - i commend you... A true human..  americanmutt   Dec-17-08 11:56 AM   #106 
  - Congratulations on reclaiming your soul...  Raksha   Dec-17-08 01:27 PM   #115 
  - It's regrettable you are still being considered TVworthy, Frank.  SalmonChantedEvening   Dec-16-08 06:41 PM   #28 
  - Here's the deal. The ruling class think we are cannon fodder. If we "have to die" so be it.  rhett o rick   Dec-16-08 06:43 PM   #29 
  - "If they must die, they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population."  faygokid   Dec-16-08 06:59 PM   #32 
     - Very good. nm  rhett o rick   Dec-16-08 07:29 PM   #41 
  - I wonder how many families were watching that.  rucky   Dec-16-08 06:51 PM   #30 
  - I feel as if I have stared into a bottomless pit  BerryBush   Dec-16-08 06:55 PM   #31 
  - Yeah, well, that's how I feel about THEM -- they OUGHT to die  Beam Me Up   Dec-16-08 07:04 PM   #33 
  - Death is far too good for them n/t  spiritual_gunfighter   Dec-17-08 08:18 AM   #75 
  - would he give his life for the cause he perceives in Iraq?  wildbilln864   Dec-16-08 07:07 PM   #36 
  - If that's what he thinks, then I say let's put a gun in his hands,  rateyes   Dec-16-08 07:09 PM   #38 
  - I worked with an asshole when the war republican  firedupdem   Dec-16-08 07:12 PM   #39 
  - If Mr. Gaffney dies in the near future  Crunchy Frog   Dec-16-08 07:15 PM   #40 
  - I don't see why that would be the case...  JackRiddler   Dec-16-08 10:46 PM   #49 
  - 4000 Americans had to die for Neocon ideology and the PNAC plan to turn America into a Hyperpower.  PerfectSage   Dec-16-08 07:31 PM   #43 
  - Not to mention the 2700 who "had to die" so they could start this shit in the first place  Sebastian Doyle   Dec-17-08 12:16 PM   #108 
  - Unbelievable.  JerseygirlCT   Dec-16-08 07:51 PM   #46 
  - fucking chickenhawk. n/t  Mari333   Dec-16-08 07:52 PM   #47 
  - Gaffney is a total waste of oxygen and protoplasm.  BrklynLiberal   Dec-16-08 10:37 PM   #48 
  - Did Chris Matthews shill for the war? My recollection is, he did.  Hannah Bell   Dec-16-08 11:06 PM   #51 
  - He didn't shill for it, unlike Russert and everyone else in the MSM  Uzybone   Dec-16-08 11:23 PM   #54 
  - oh come now  navarth   Dec-17-08 11:18 AM   #102 
     - I agree he cheered for Bush, they all did.  Uzybone   Dec-17-08 03:40 PM   #121 
  - I watched him every day and the best description I can come up with  hulka38   Dec-18-08 07:32 AM   #138 
  - I just saw the segment with that scum  Uzybone   Dec-16-08 11:19 PM   #53 
  - If he had any decency left in him  bushwentawol   Dec-17-08 03:24 AM   #56 
  - Here is a perfect example of most stupid peoples fatal flaw  NNN0LHI   Dec-17-08 04:04 AM   #58 
  - It is already quite clear that the GOPers have no intention of letting  MasonJar   Dec-17-08 06:17 AM   #59 
  - Too bad Frank didn't put his money where his big mouth is.  No Surrender   Dec-17-08 06:31 AM   #61 
  - Obviously we would have invaded Iraq even if they didn't have WMDs  tclambert   Dec-17-08 07:01 AM   #62 
  - There's an even worse quote:  lwcon   Dec-17-08 07:23 AM   #63 
  - How could you do that to Cole's memory ?  Spinzonner   Dec-17-08 11:20 AM   #103 
  - K & R!  lonestarnot   Dec-17-08 07:24 AM   #64 
  - sickening  alyce douglas   Dec-17-08 07:26 AM   #65 
  - How is this different from other administrations?  Zywiec   Dec-17-08 07:29 AM   #66 
  - This also gives you a hint at what healthcare reform will face.  Vinca   Dec-17-08 07:30 AM   #68 
  - Disgusting excuse for a human being.  Mad_Dem_X   Dec-17-08 07:31 AM   #69 
  - While its commendable that Tweety called this idiot on his  OwnedByFerrets   Dec-17-08 08:11 AM   #72 
  - I agree. No one has a clue, or if they do they're not talking. But if they did,  babylonsister   Dec-17-08 08:14 AM   #74 
     - Are you appalled by the actions of previous administrations  Zywiec   Dec-17-08 08:26 AM   #77 
        - What do you think? Dumb question. nt  babylonsister   Dec-17-08 08:27 AM   #79 
        - I am appalled by all acts of inhumanity.....  OwnedByFerrets   Dec-17-08 08:33 AM   #80 
           - I couldn't agree more  Zywiec   Dec-17-08 09:19 AM   #84 
  - "Mortal threat" means America is doomed if Saddam stays in power.  Deep13   Dec-17-08 08:12 AM   #73 
  - Indeed, without WMDs how could Saddam be a mortal threat?  mcg   Dec-17-08 10:32 PM   #127 
  - yeah... tough about those 4000... ya know... stuff happens... (WONDER WHAT THEIR BEEF IS?)  happygoluckytoyou   Dec-17-08 08:44 AM   #82 
  - Hopefully Obama will bring justice to these sick fucks.  Xenotime   Dec-17-08 08:51 AM   #83 
  - they're still bullshitting about the reasons for going in  barbtries   Dec-17-08 09:37 AM   #86 
  - Yea ...well when you join the military you might have to die and kill other humans.  L0oniX   Dec-17-08 09:46 AM   #88 
  - So, do you also approve of the US soldiers being lied into a war,  babylonsister   Dec-17-08 09:48 AM   #89 
     - I find it hard to believe that everyone believed those lies. I knew they were lies.  L0oniX   Dec-17-08 10:41 AM   #94 
  - spoken like a true Nazi nt  ooglymoogly   Dec-17-08 09:54 AM   #90 
  - They died for greed, not hubris. Hubris is part of the excuse.  valerief   Dec-17-08 10:17 AM   #91 
  - actually, Gaffe Man,  CitizenPatriot   Dec-17-08 10:26 AM   #92 
  - "Four thousand people are dead....."  tuckessee   Dec-17-08 10:50 AM   #97 
  - someone send this to Bugliosi to add to his case...  robinlynne   Dec-17-08 11:09 AM   #100 
  - "May I state my position rather than you stating it?"  skypilot   Dec-17-08 12:37 PM   #110 
  - I rewound that and watched that statement 3 times...  Greyskye   Dec-17-08 12:53 PM   #111 
  - What is it about the RW penchant for more and more dead people?  lebkuchen   Dec-17-08 01:13 PM   #113 
  - the GOP is lead by fascists and supported by fools.  Az_lefty   Dec-17-08 01:17 PM   #114 
  - Wow, what bastards.  southernyankeebelle   Dec-17-08 02:19 PM   #118 
  - I couldn't believe my ears when I heard him say that.  DUlover2909   Dec-17-08 02:56 PM   #119 
  - if my child had died, i'd be driving to d.c. right now to have a little chat with mr gafney  spanone   Dec-17-08 02:59 PM   #120 
  - This would be a good time  Turbineguy   Dec-17-08 04:29 PM   #122 
  - I'm a peaceful guy, but ...  OmelasExpat   Dec-17-08 04:30 PM   #123 
  - I wish someone could say the same thing about THAT son of a bitch.  cliffordu   Dec-17-08 11:02 PM   #128 
  - You almost can't believe a person could say that.  BlooInBloo   Dec-17-08 11:25 PM   #131 
  - I only wish that Matthews had been more skeptical and cynical about the invasion...  IntravenousDemilo   Dec-18-08 12:11 AM   #133 
  - What? Say that again....We need to get the last two Senate seats, secure MN & IL!!  GreenTea   Dec-18-08 01:09 AM   #134 
  - You've nailed it.  Mister Ed   Dec-18-08 05:09 AM   #135 
  - Shocking and Shameful. This one leaves me speechless. NT  Mike 03   Dec-18-08 04:10 PM   #143 

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