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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 11:37 AM
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30. I read fine, it's you who is being obtuse. n/t
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  -Responsible Dog Breeders- How To Spot Them cryingshame  Dec-16-08 11:00 AM   #0 
  - Thank you for this.  elleng   Dec-16-08 11:05 AM   #1 
  - No link to the puppycam?  XemaSab   Dec-16-08 06:03 PM   #80 
  - puppycam  elleng   Dec-16-08 06:50 PM   #86 
  - Given how she was during the birth, I don't know about that  haruka3_2000   Dec-16-08 06:59 PM   #89 
     - She's a total freak for sure  XemaSab   Dec-16-08 07:43 PM   #98 
     - Who are you talking about?  elleng   Dec-16-08 08:35 PM   #101 
        - The breeder with the golden retreiver puppy cam  haruka3_2000   Dec-16-08 09:14 PM   #103 
           - I've watched her every day, since night of their birth;  elleng   Dec-16-08 09:24 PM   #104 
  - also, responsible breeders limit their bitches to 3 or 4 litters a LIFETIME  FarceOfNature   Dec-16-08 11:05 AM   #2 
  - Added that to the list.  cryingshame   Dec-16-08 11:08 AM   #3 
  - We have two pure bred poodles that we love to death and if we had it to  jhrobbins   Dec-17-08 02:10 PM   #119 
  - "Responsible" breeders that don't also do breed rescue are worthless.  flvegan   Dec-16-08 11:10 AM   #4 
  - Responsible breeders aren't contributing to any problems. They make sure all their animals  cryingshame   Dec-16-08 11:12 AM   #5 
  - 5 million animals euthanized each year.  flvegan   Dec-16-08 11:29 AM   #21 
     - Gotta get rid of the excess stock somehow.  superduperfarleft   Dec-16-08 11:31 AM   #22 
     - I laugh every time I see the term, "responsible breeder".  flvegan   Dec-16-08 11:40 AM   #31 
        - So you are a zealot. It explains why you can't see the obvious need  cryingshame   Dec-16-08 11:48 AM   #34 
           - I think I'm going to breed some filipino children.  superduperfarleft   Dec-16-08 11:52 AM   #37 
           - A better representation of your bad attitude= all couples should stop having their own kids  cryingshame   Dec-16-08 11:55 AM   #39 
              - Different flamewar for another thread. (removed n/t)  superduperfarleft   Dec-16-08 11:56 AM   #40 
           - No, I'm consistent.  flvegan   Dec-16-08 12:02 PM   #43 
              - You're not "consistent". You're trying to stamp out an activity that results in pets finding loving  cryingshame   Dec-16-08 12:07 PM   #44 
                 - No, I'm trying to stamp out an activity that results in pets finding their demise.  flvegan   Dec-16-08 12:18 PM   #47 
                    - Damn right.  LeftyMom   Dec-16-08 12:21 PM   #48 
                    - Ah, another zealot who can't distinguish between those who act responsibly and those  cryingshame   Dec-16-08 12:33 PM   #55 
                       - Overpopulation is the overarching problem.  LeftyMom   Dec-16-08 01:00 PM   #72 
                    - Responsible breeders don't contribute to any pets finding their demise. They take care in placing  cryingshame   Dec-16-08 12:32 PM   #54 
                       - You must've flunked economics  flvegan   Dec-16-08 12:36 PM   #57 
                          - You sure don't know shit about demand for purebreds. It exists. Hence, the need f/RESPONSIBLE  cryingshame   Dec-16-08 12:37 PM   #58 
                             - I agree, they should avoid the "responsible" breeders  flvegan   Dec-16-08 12:39 PM   #60 
                                - That was a typo that was just fixed. Nothing your saying disproves the obvious FACT  cryingshame   Dec-16-08 12:44 PM   #62 
                                   - So these breeders are fortune tellers, are they?  flvegan   Dec-16-08 12:51 PM   #66 
                                   - I was set on a beagle. Twice. And I found them. One at a shelter,  mycritters2   Dec-16-08 06:14 PM   #82 
     - Responsible dog breeders make sure their pups don't go to new owners who will abandon those pups  cryingshame   Dec-16-08 11:44 AM   #33 
     - Okay, so I do have to expain it to you.  flvegan   Dec-16-08 12:01 PM   #42 
        - Well, you're assuming a few things that may not be.  Robb   Dec-16-08 12:12 PM   #46 
           - Nothing I stated was an assumption.  flvegan   Dec-16-08 12:23 PM   #50 
              - Well, yes it was.  Robb   Dec-16-08 01:43 PM   #76 
                 - I think that what he was saying was that for every canine requisite,  jhrobbins   Dec-17-08 02:26 PM   #121 
     - I understand exactly what you mean.  jhrobbins   Dec-17-08 02:13 PM   #120 
  - The woman that we adopted Beag from is one of those breeders  haruka3_2000   Dec-16-08 07:00 PM   #90 
  - There's never anything responsible about breeders. Ever. n/t  superduperfarleft   Dec-16-08 11:12 AM   #6 
  - That's a fucked up, ignorant attitude.  cryingshame   Dec-16-08 11:13 AM   #8 
  - So is continuing to breed domesticated animals for the privileged class  superduperfarleft   Dec-16-08 11:14 AM   #9 
     - Since I've probably spent more time than you caring for abandoned and feral cats  cryingshame   Dec-16-08 11:16 AM   #11 
     - Ooh, a pissing contest.  superduperfarleft   Dec-16-08 11:20 AM   #14 
     - I've never owned a purebred animal. And there's nothing "consumerist" about seeking out an animal  cryingshame   Dec-16-08 11:26 AM   #18 
        - Ah, so it's selfishness. Got it.  superduperfarleft   Dec-16-08 11:29 AM   #20 
           - Responsible dog breeders don't create problems as they are very careful where their pups are placed  cryingshame   Dec-16-08 11:34 AM   #26 
              - I read fine, it's you who is being obtuse. n/t  superduperfarleft   Dec-16-08 11:37 AM   #30 
     - I'm guessing not.  LeftyMom   Dec-16-08 12:22 PM   #49 
     - Super, your heart is very obviously in the right place but...  FarceOfNature   Dec-16-08 11:31 AM   #23 
     - Privileged class?  haruka3_2000   Dec-16-08 07:05 PM   #91 
  - You can not be more wrong  Botany   Dec-16-08 11:23 AM   #16 
     - OMG, one little random anecdote has totally changed my opinion!!! n/t  superduperfarleft   Dec-16-08 11:26 AM   #17 
        - You would be a lucky person if you had those breeders as friends  Botany   Dec-16-08 11:34 AM   #25 
        - I look at like making up for the damage he and his ilk have caused over the years.  superduperfarleft   Dec-16-08 11:36 AM   #28 
           - Which is why  Robb   Dec-16-08 11:50 AM   #36 
              - What the hell does that have to do with breeders?  superduperfarleft   Dec-16-08 11:53 AM   #38 
        - OMG, one loud asshole on the internet has totally changed my opinion!!! n/t  sudopod   Dec-16-08 11:56 AM   #41 
           - !  hootinholler   Dec-17-08 11:24 AM   #117 
  - Over all good ideas  Botany   Dec-16-08 11:12 AM   #7 
  - No, Biden's dog came from a puppy mill.  FarceOfNature   Dec-16-08 11:14 AM   #10 
  - Probably a case of sheer ignorance on the issue. Which is why I posted this thead  cryingshame   Dec-16-08 11:17 AM   #12 
  - Looks to me that Joe did his homework on the pup  Botany   Dec-16-08 11:27 AM   #19 
     - The more that puppy mills are supported, the longer they will  OwnedByFerrets   Dec-16-08 11:35 AM   #27 
     - And having the VP elect as a client will surely boost that mill's business.  flvegan   Dec-16-08 11:36 AM   #29 
     - I'm sorry, but that's just not true. The breeder was a miller:  FarceOfNature   Dec-16-08 11:41 AM   #32 
  - Biden got his dog from a puppy mill  haruka3_2000   Dec-16-08 07:07 PM   #93 
  - actually the one Biden chose is a puppy mill  JoeIsOneOfUs   Dec-17-08 12:12 AM   #108 
  - Pretty accurate.  BobRossi   Dec-16-08 11:19 AM   #13 
  - Thanks, I added that.  cryingshame   Dec-16-08 11:21 AM   #15 
  - With millions of canines being killed yearly, is there such a  OwnedByFerrets   Dec-16-08 11:32 AM   #24 
  - Considering the overwhelming majority of "incarcerated" dogs  Robb   Dec-16-08 11:49 AM   #35 
     - .....  OwnedByFerrets   Dec-16-08 05:48 PM   #78 
        - Yes  Robb   Dec-16-08 06:23 PM   #84 
  - I'd add to that ...  TahitiNut   Dec-16-08 12:10 PM   #45 
  - Unicorns: How to Spot Them.  LeftyMom   Dec-16-08 12:24 PM   #51 
  - +1  flvegan   Dec-16-08 12:28 PM   #52 
  - In the end YOU end up being a part of the problem. You're screwed up attitude shuts off those  cryingshame   Dec-16-08 12:36 PM   #56 
  - And visit with the lovely unicorn in their backyard.  flvegan   Dec-16-08 12:38 PM   #59 
  - Which exist, it should be pointed out  Robb   Dec-16-08 12:40 PM   #61 
  - Ah, so you WANT the puppy mills to continue so those who want a specific breed can rescue them  cryingshame   Dec-16-08 12:47 PM   #64 
     - At what point did I say that?  flvegan   Dec-16-08 12:54 PM   #68 
  - Nonsense. If you insist on a purebred animal (which is dumb) then go to a rescue or a shelter.  LeftyMom   Dec-16-08 12:46 PM   #63 
     - If you want a child, go to an adoption center. Oh, and as someone who worked at a shelter  cryingshame   Dec-16-08 12:47 PM   #65 
        - Having volunteered and sat on the BOD of mine, you fail again.  flvegan   Dec-16-08 12:56 PM   #70 
        - I hope to Ceiling Cat you NEVER have anything to do with public outreach.  cryingshame   Dec-16-08 02:25 PM   #77 
           - Your concern is noted.  flvegan   Dec-16-08 06:55 PM   #87 
        - Not really planning on having another, but thanks for the advice.  LeftyMom   Dec-16-08 12:58 PM   #71 
        - My beagle, a rescue purebred, has earned her CGC and Rally Novice titles,  mycritters2   Dec-16-08 06:20 PM   #83 
  - Fucking win.  superduperfarleft   Dec-16-08 01:39 PM   #75 
  - OMG. That was beautiful!  Veganistan   Dec-17-08 02:41 PM   #122 
  - My brother bought a gorgeous dog from a breeder who met all those criteria  Lydia Leftcoast   Dec-16-08 12:32 PM   #53 
  - Cocker Spaniel?  XemaSab   Dec-16-08 06:34 PM   #85 
     - English setter  Lydia Leftcoast   Dec-16-08 07:54 PM   #100 
  - There  Coyote_Bandit   Dec-16-08 12:52 PM   #67 
  - There is no such thing.  lonestarnot   Dec-16-08 12:56 PM   #69 
  - I don't have anything to add  TuxedoKat   Dec-16-08 01:02 PM   #73 
  - My Tuxedo gal...  Lisa0825   Dec-16-08 09:14 PM   #102 
     - Ahh...  TuxedoKat   Dec-17-08 10:44 AM   #116 
  - Amazing how "black and white"  tsegat01   Dec-16-08 01:03 PM   #74 
  - Good post. Thank you. n/t  ColbertWatcher   Dec-16-08 05:50 PM   #79 
  - They will also take back dogs  Dappleganger   Dec-16-08 06:11 PM   #81 
  - Yes, lifetime contract is a minimum - and breeders who can't guarantee it  JoeIsOneOfUs   Dec-17-08 12:16 AM   #109 
  - So-called "purebreds" will probably be obsolete in 50 years  XemaSab   Dec-16-08 06:57 PM   #88 
  - I think the designer mutts are popular because people are idiots and they have cute names  haruka3_2000   Dec-16-08 07:12 PM   #94 
  - That too  XemaSab   Dec-16-08 07:21 PM   #96 
  - So, I Can't  RobinA   Dec-17-08 03:23 PM   #124 
     - The point is breeding unhealthy mutts for profit is bad  haruka3_2000   Dec-17-08 04:43 PM   #125 
  - RE: "Nazis."  superduperfarleft   Dec-16-08 09:29 PM   #105 
  - Funny how inbreeding turns into purebreeding for marketing purpose... nt  JoeIsOneOfUs   Dec-17-08 12:16 AM   #110 
  - Good breeders have to love that particular breed in EVERY way--flaws and all.  davsand   Dec-16-08 07:06 PM   #92 
  - I personally have issues with breeding for "looks"  haruka3_2000   Dec-16-08 11:09 PM   #106 
     - really interesting site on GSD conformation  JoeIsOneOfUs   Dec-17-08 12:26 AM   #111 
     - I agree that some of these "breed standards" have weakened the animals.  davsand   Dec-17-08 01:59 PM   #118 
  - One more VERY important: let you contact and visit other dogs they have adopted out  FreeState   Dec-16-08 07:13 PM   #95 
  - 160 dogs drowned. She saved 4 puppies.  crappy diem   Dec-16-08 07:27 PM   #97 
  - No one should have 160 dogs, AKC judge or not, she was a puppy miller  haruka3_2000   Dec-16-08 07:48 PM   #99 
     - Thanks. I agree she is a miller.  crappy diem   Dec-17-08 02:04 AM   #114 
  - I'd like to take this opportunity to go on record saying that I intend to BUY my next dog  bertman   Dec-16-08 11:39 PM   #107 
  - "If you breed, rescue; if you don't rescue, don't breed" and a waiting list  JoeIsOneOfUs   Dec-17-08 12:32 AM   #112 
  - My last pet was a feral black and white tuxedo kitten (when found).  Waiting For Everyman   Dec-17-08 01:26 AM   #113 
  - Though I'm one of the quieter "kooks" on the board,  tofunut   Dec-17-08 02:27 AM   #115 
     - Thanks for this post! You are absolutely 100% correct.  Veganistan   Dec-17-08 02:44 PM   #123 
        - Just like parents who have kids create more suffering by bringing yet MORE  cryingshame   Dec-17-08 04:47 PM   #126 

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