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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 05:44 PM
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10. The Criticism Of Caroline Is That She Has No Track Record Of Raising Money
Also, will she be willing to do the hard work of serving Upstate NY versus the monied interests of NY City?
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  -Is being rich & connected a good reason to get a free Senate seat? JackRiddler  Dec-15-08 05:23 PM   #0 
  - She deserves it. For being Caroline. And I mean that.  marylanddem   Dec-15-08 05:27 PM   #1 
  - Thanks for illustrating "celebrity worship."  JackRiddler   Dec-15-08 06:07 PM   #24 
  - I'm beginning to believe we're pre-disposed as a species  Veganistan   Dec-15-08 11:05 PM   #51 
  - no kidding.  cali   Dec-16-08 05:00 AM   #61 
  - It could be argued that the current holder of this seat  SOS   Dec-16-08 11:59 AM   #94 
     - Indications are that Kennedy is more progressive than Clinton, however...  JackRiddler   Dec-16-08 10:42 PM   #111 
  - Oh please.  emilyg   Dec-15-08 06:35 PM   #35 
  - I might agree if senate seats were term-limited.  anigbrowl   Dec-15-08 08:41 PM   #40 
  - How many politicians do you know that are not rich and powerful?  Howzit   Dec-15-08 05:28 PM   #2 
  - Good point.  bushwentawol   Dec-15-08 05:32 PM   #4 
  - Well, all of my reps in Congress are now powerful of course, but  cali   Dec-16-08 05:02 AM   #62 
  - Especially Senators (n/t)  harun   Dec-16-08 06:37 AM   #68 
  - How many professional career politicians make good senators?  dmordue   Dec-15-08 05:32 PM   #3 
  - Quite a few. Think Bernie Sanders and Sherrod Brown  cali   Dec-16-08 05:06 AM   #63 
  - Grow.Up.  amdezurik   Dec-15-08 05:33 PM   #5 
  - who do you think should get handed the seat then?  onenote   Dec-15-08 05:37 PM   #6 
  - Resisting the corporate media's call is an excellent rule of thumb...  JackRiddler   Dec-15-08 05:59 PM   #20 
     - is that your standard exclusively for the US Senate ?  onenote   Dec-15-08 06:15 PM   #28 
        - Interesting!  MookieWilson   Dec-15-08 06:34 PM   #33 
        - Love to see someone feeling around like a mime inside a Bushie False Reality Bubble  tom_paine   Dec-16-08 08:50 AM   #75 
  - Were her only qualification her political pedigree, I'd  Warpy   Dec-15-08 05:39 PM   #7 
  - Don't try to make sense JackRiddler,  yadayadayada   Dec-15-08 05:40 PM   #8 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-15-08 05:45 PM   #11 
     - So now kowtowing to aristocrats is left wing?  JackRiddler   Dec-15-08 05:49 PM   #14 
        - What's the massive PR campaign...  stillcool47   Dec-15-08 05:53 PM   #15 
        - A fine idea.  JackRiddler   Dec-15-08 06:13 PM   #25 
        - what "massive campaign"?  amdezurik   Dec-15-08 05:58 PM   #18 
           - 6,107 Google News hits as of 7pm EST Dec. 15th 2008...  JackRiddler   Dec-15-08 06:05 PM   #23 
              - geezus duuuuuude  amdezurik   Dec-15-08 07:14 PM   #36 
                 - For someone so mature, you could stand to be less ignorant.  JackRiddler   Dec-15-08 07:47 PM   #38 
  - most of congress is corrupt-at least the kennedys appear not to be  natrat   Dec-15-08 05:44 PM   #9 
  - The Criticism Of Caroline Is That She Has No Track Record Of Raising Money  lostnotforgotten   Dec-15-08 05:44 PM   #10 
  - She raised millions of dollars for the NYC Board of Ed. That's a good enough track record.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Dec-15-08 05:49 PM   #12 
     - Yes - But Will She Be able to Grovel For Political Survival Not Social Justice  lostnotforgotten   Dec-15-08 06:04 PM   #22 
        - She'll be groveling money in order to represent me and the best interests of the people of my state.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Dec-15-08 06:18 PM   #29 
           - I concur.  Karenina   Dec-15-08 07:29 PM   #37 
           - I Hail From Syracuse NY - I Worry That She Will Not Represent Upstate Citizens Well  lostnotforgotten   Dec-15-08 08:59 PM   #41 
              - Why not?  OmmmSweetOmmm   Dec-16-08 02:52 AM   #56 
                 - Simple - She Has No History In Upstate NY - Upstate Is Rural Not NY City Wealth  lostnotforgotten   Dec-16-08 03:40 AM   #60 
                    - Name me one NY Senator in recent history who had upstate NY experience?  OmmmSweetOmmm   Dec-16-08 08:30 AM   #73 
                       - My Real Problem Here Is With DU Apologists Like Yourself  lostnotforgotten   Dec-16-08 10:38 AM   #84 
                       - Thank you for not answering my question and going into a diatribe. BTW.. I never supported Clinton.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Dec-16-08 10:49 AM   #85 
                          - I Did Answer You Question - I Don't See How An untested Politician Is A Good Thing  lostnotforgotten   Dec-16-08 11:57 AM   #93 
                             - No, we were discussing funding. Personally, my pick for Senator would be Maurice  OmmmSweetOmmm   Dec-16-08 12:55 PM   #99 
                       - Clinton showed up fairly regularly (at least in her first term)  Retrograde   Dec-16-08 11:47 AM   #91 
                          - The discussion was about experience in upstate prior to serving. A visit to upstate would be  OmmmSweetOmmm   Dec-16-08 02:08 PM   #108 
  - Apparently..n/t  SoCalDem   Dec-15-08 05:49 PM   #13 
  - Were that 1/4 of our present senators be as accomplished as Ms. Kennedy  Wickerman   Dec-15-08 05:53 PM   #16 
  - So you'd prefer Caroline Kennedy over that grimy career pol, Bernie Sanders?  cali   Dec-16-08 05:10 AM   #65 
     - Now Cali, don't let selctive reading get in the way of what my post actually said  Wickerman   Dec-16-08 08:35 AM   #74 
  - No, but nor is it a reason NOT to get a Senate seat...  BlooInBloo   Dec-15-08 05:54 PM   #17 
  - I hate the person not how much or little money  zidzi   Dec-15-08 10:40 PM   #48 
  - Yes it is.  Iggo   Dec-15-08 05:58 PM   #19 
  - It seems to have worked for pretty much every member of the Senate  leftofthedial   Dec-15-08 06:00 PM   #21 
  - bull. Bernie. Pat. Sherrod Brown.  cali   Dec-16-08 05:11 AM   #66 
     - You do understand the meaning of the phrase "pretty much," I assume?  leftofthedial   Dec-16-08 11:18 AM   #88 
  - Hasn't political aristocracy done enough damage?  notesdev   Dec-15-08 06:13 PM   #26 
  - Nita Lowey is a fine COngresswoman. And she would be a one term senator  onenote   Dec-15-08 06:18 PM   #30 
  - She doesn't want it.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Dec-16-08 02:53 AM   #57 
  - Well, Caroline has always been popular, through no choice of her own.  CTyankee   Dec-16-08 11:06 AM   #86 
  - apparently so. isn't that why the senate was created in the first place?  QuestionAll   Dec-15-08 06:14 PM   #27 
  - You're forgetting, the others had to actually buy the votes.  JackRiddler   Dec-15-08 06:27 PM   #32 
  - I can kind of get upset about the Caroline/Legacy/Entitlement Thingy...  KoKo01   Dec-15-08 06:19 PM   #31 
  - my reasoning: the ruling class, the mofos think they're the ruling class  onethatcares   Dec-15-08 06:34 PM   #34 
  - Andrew Cuomo also wants the seat  OutspokenLiberal   Dec-15-08 08:25 PM   #39 
  - Cuomo has actually run for office and received a majority of the votes.  JackRiddler   Dec-15-08 09:51 PM   #44 
  - I think a non celebrity native New Yorker should have the seat like  mmonk   Dec-15-08 09:16 PM   #42 
  - Senator Caroline Kennedy!  TexasObserver   Dec-15-08 09:31 PM   #43 
  - Take her in Texas then.  JackRiddler   Dec-15-08 09:55 PM   #45 
     - She wants New York, not Texas, and it sounds as if New York wants her.  TexasObserver   Dec-15-08 10:27 PM   #46 
        - Yes, a lot of New Yorkers also worship royalty...  JackRiddler   Dec-15-08 11:01 PM   #49 
           - Another inane comment from one given to such.  TexasObserver   Dec-15-08 11:11 PM   #52 
              - baaaah baaaaah  iamthebandfanman   Dec-16-08 09:47 AM   #77 
  - When I think of Caroline Kennedy  zidzi   Dec-15-08 10:35 PM   #47 
  - Well put. Thanks for describing the situation in a clear and concise way.  ShortnFiery   Dec-15-08 11:05 PM   #50 
  - The governor makes the choice, not you or me....if he picks Caroline....  Rowdyboy   Dec-15-08 11:16 PM   #53 
  - The governor makes the choice, yes -- not a fawning media campaign  JackRiddler   Dec-15-08 11:59 PM   #55 
  - We hardly have an egalitarian system.  alarimer   Dec-15-08 11:28 PM   #54 
  - if it was ONLY a matter of principle, looks, charisma and style shouldn't be a part of the equation  Douglas Carpenter   Dec-16-08 03:19 AM   #58 
  - So politicians only have merit if elected? Seems like the governor of NY might not  sohndrsmith   Dec-16-08 03:32 AM   #59 
  - Please correct yourself: The governor of New York was elected...  JackRiddler   Dec-16-08 10:25 AM   #81 
  - Don't like it, but it's the best way to keep the Senate seat out of Ghouliani's hands in 2 years  JCMach1   Dec-16-08 05:09 AM   #64 
  - How do most of them get there?  quaker bill   Dec-16-08 05:30 AM   #67 
  - Tom Feeney's in the U.S. Senate? Who knew?  cali   Dec-16-08 06:45 AM   #70 
  - What the hell else do you think Western Democracy is about?  JVS   Dec-16-08 06:45 AM   #69 
  - Where are these poor and righteous saints that should get the free seat  mmonk   Dec-16-08 08:22 AM   #71 
  - Strawman  JackRiddler   Dec-16-08 10:31 AM   #82 
  - Extremely saddeded to see 58% of DUers for this State-Controlled Media bullshit.  tom_paine   Dec-16-08 08:28 AM   #72 
  - this thread proves only one thing  iamthebandfanman   Dec-16-08 09:43 AM   #76 
  - It proves that a lot of people need to get the stars out of their eyes.......  Darth_Kitten   Dec-16-08 10:01 AM   #80 
  - that's all the reason I need...  LanternWaste   Dec-16-08 09:58 AM   #78 
  - having a name and being wealthy brought us the Bush family  iamthebandfanman   Dec-16-08 09:59 AM   #79 
  - I can't answer the poll because I think she'll probably make a fine Senator  shadowknows69   Dec-16-08 10:36 AM   #83 
  - Caroline Kennedy is a "celebrity"? Really?  suston96   Dec-16-08 11:15 AM   #87 
  - She's qualified because a number of her family have died?  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Dec-16-08 11:21 AM   #89 
     - Swoosh! Right over your head. She is a celebrity, indeed. Unfortunately....  suston96   Dec-16-08 11:29 AM   #90 
        - I meet those qualifications, AND my dad is dead. Do you think I have a shot at the appointment?  Romulox   Dec-16-08 11:55 AM   #92 
           - The difference between you and Caroline Kennedy? I don't know you well enough to say....  suston96   Dec-16-08 12:22 PM   #95 
              - It's sad that you don't have the courage to state the obvious: I'm not a Kennedy. nt  Romulox   Dec-16-08 12:26 PM   #96 
              - State the obvious? I am not a Kennedy? What does that mean? nt  suston96   Dec-16-08 12:56 PM   #100 
                 - Swoosh! Right over your head!  JackRiddler   Dec-16-08 01:14 PM   #103 
              - Obama was chosen by voters, not a governor. Swoosh!  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Dec-16-08 01:29 PM   #104 
                 - As long as she is constitutionally eligible AND the Governor appoints her......  suston96   Dec-16-08 01:39 PM   #106 
                    - Wow, quoting fail  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Dec-16-08 02:23 PM   #109 
                       - Put all the salt you want on it...Those are the polls and there will be more.  suston96   Dec-16-08 02:42 PM   #110 
  - Is being rich & connected a good reason to get a free Senate seat?  verges   Dec-16-08 12:39 PM   #97 
  - Were any of these Nobel Laureates...  JackRiddler   Dec-16-08 12:54 PM   #98 
     - To a degree, I agree with you.  verges   Dec-16-08 02:07 PM   #107 
  - If experience in elected office was a requirement to serve  louis c   Dec-16-08 12:58 PM   #101 
  - You are misrepresenting my point... totally.  JackRiddler   Dec-16-08 01:12 PM   #102 
     - I'm not disagreeing with you  louis c   Dec-16-08 01:34 PM   #105 
  - I loved Rachel's line  hfojvt   Dec-16-08 11:02 PM   #112 
  - Great idea, if it had about the same power as the House of Lords!  JackRiddler   Dec-16-08 11:21 PM   #113 
  - Today's observation:  JackRiddler   Dec-17-08 10:15 AM   #114 
  - Being rich and connected can be useful Senatorial characteristics.  aikoaiko   Dec-17-08 10:18 AM   #115 
     - Good. Let's dispense with the democratic and constitutional illusions then.  JackRiddler   Dec-17-08 10:46 AM   #116 
        - I don't get your point -- this seat is an appointment  aikoaiko   Dec-17-08 11:11 AM   #117 

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