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120. An email from Michael Moore
Senate to Middle Class: Drop Dead

Friday, December 12th, 2008


They could have given the loan on the condition that the automakers start building only cars and mass transit that reduce our dependency on oil.

They could have given the loan on the condition that the automakers build cars that reduce global warming.

They could have given the loan on the condition that the automakers withdraw their many lawsuits against state governments in their attempts to not comply with our environmental laws.

They could have given the loan on the condition that the management team which drove these once-great manufacturers into the ground resign and be replaced with a team who understands the transportation needs of the 21st century.

Yes, they could have given the loan for any of these reasons because, in the end, to lose our manufacturing infrastructure and throw 3 million people out of work would be a catastrophe.

But instead, the Senate said, we'll give you the loan only if the factory workers take a $20 an hour cut in wages, pension and health care. That's right. After giving BILLIONS to Wall Street hucksters and criminal investment bankers -- billions with no strings attached and, as we have since learned, no oversight whatsoever -- the Senate decided it is more important to break a union, more important to throw middle class wage earners into the ranks of the working poor than to prevent the total collapse of industrial America.

We have a little more than a month to go of this madness. As I sit here in Michigan today, tens of thousands of hard working, honest, decent Americans do not believe they can make it to January 20th. The malaise here is astounding. Why must they suffer because of the mistakes of every CEO from Roger Smith to Rick Wagoner? Make management and the boards of directors and the shareholders pay for this.

Of course that is heresy to the 31 Republicans who decided to blame the poor, miserable autoworkers for this mess. And our wonderful media complied with their spin on the morning news shows: "UAW Refuses to Give Concessions Killing Auto Bailout Bill." In fact the UAW has given concession after concession, reduced their benefits, agreed to get rid of the Jobs Bank and agreed to make it harder for their retirees to live from week to week. Yes! That's what we need to do! It's the Jobs Bank and the old people who have led the nation to economic ruin!

But even doing all that wasn't enough to satisfy the bastard Republicans. These Senate vampires wanted blood. Blue collar blood. You see, they weren't opposed to the bailout because they believed in the free market or capitalism. No, they were opposed to the bailout because they're opposed to workers making a decent wage. In their rage, they were driven to destroy the backbone of this country, not because the UAW hadn't given back enough, but because the UAW hadn't given up.

It appears that the sitting President has been looking for a way to end his reign by one magnanimous act, just like a warlord on his feast day. He will put his finger in the dyke, and the fragile mess of an auto industry will eke through the next few months.

That will give the Senate enough time to demand that the bankers and investment sharks who've already swiped nearly half of the $700 billion gift a chance to make the offer of cutting their pay.

Fat chance.

Michael Moore
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  -Republican Senator Admits Opposition to Auto Bill is All About Union Busting halo experiment  Dec-11-08 12:59 PM   #0 
  - K & R  Better Believe It   Dec-11-08 01:03 PM   #1 
  - k&r -- what a piece of shit some of these people are. n/t  orleans   Dec-11-08 01:06 PM   #2 
  - k&r  Venceremos   Dec-11-08 01:08 PM   #3 
  - to repukes, contracts with workers don't count and don't matter...  QuestionAll   Dec-11-08 01:09 PM   #4 
  - I would never have guessed that the Shock Doctrine would be used to take away worker rights  halo experiment   Dec-11-08 01:10 PM   #5 
  - to repukes, international treaties don't count and don't matter...  KansDem   Dec-12-08 08:45 AM   #91 
  - The biggest problem that the repubic party has right now (and for the  acmavm   Dec-11-08 01:10 PM   #6 
  - I knew that's what they were after all along, but even in bankruptcy, it  napi21   Dec-11-08 01:11 PM   #7 
  - Then why do we taxpayers have to foot the bill to move the  tnlefty   Dec-11-08 01:13 PM   #8 
  - Lest anyone have forgotten, these are the same Patriots that  HillbillyBob   Dec-12-08 09:13 AM   #94 
  - I found that interview refreshing  mdmc   Dec-11-08 01:14 PM   #9 
  - As has been quoted here. It is ok to bailout workers that shower BEFORE  BrklynLiberal   Dec-11-08 02:03 PM   #15 
     - Thats one of the better analogies I've heard on the subject  halo experiment   Dec-11-08 02:17 PM   #20 
  - Unions "appear to be an antiquated concept in todays economy"?  geomon666   Dec-11-08 01:16 PM   #10 
  - That idea is very prevalent among HR professionals  undeterred   Dec-11-08 01:20 PM   #12 
  - Ever since they changed "Personnel" to "HR" those people have been pimps for the CEOs of  BrklynLiberal   Dec-11-08 02:05 PM   #16 
     - The name says it all  hay rick   Dec-11-08 07:00 PM   #38 
        - You are quite right and I hadn't quite thought of it this way.  FREEWILL56   Dec-12-08 07:09 AM   #80 
  - George F. Will made a related argument on the minimum wage.  FMArouet   Dec-12-08 08:40 AM   #90 
  - Of course, these REPUKE assholes don't realize that the unions only got STRONGER after the  TankLV   Dec-12-08 09:51 AM   #101 
  - Just now on CNN they were talking about the "bailout" discussions  nc4bo   Dec-11-08 01:18 PM   #11 
  - WHOAH!  robinlynne   Dec-11-08 01:45 PM   #13 
  - Hmmm. Who was it, while pimping for the oil companies, that made the horrendous  BrklynLiberal   Dec-11-08 02:02 PM   #14 
  - Exactly - management made bad decisions  pberq   Dec-11-08 08:07 PM   #45 
     - They think, very literally, it is all about management.  NCevilDUer   Dec-12-08 09:24 AM   #95 
  - Come on Barack, reach across the aisle...go ahead...  burythehatchet   Dec-11-08 02:07 PM   #17 
  - and slap the piss out the rpukes..or haul them off and let them  HillbillyBob   Dec-12-08 11:23 AM   #111 
  - Yes Jim...  Caliman73   Dec-11-08 02:14 PM   #18 
  - The "RACE TO THE BOTTOM". Pure and simple...  TankLV   Dec-12-08 09:56 AM   #103 
  - With rethugs, it is always about turning every job into slave labor. n/t  Jesuswasntafascist   Dec-11-08 02:17 PM   #19 
  - I'd go further and  cartach   Dec-12-08 03:55 AM   #66 
     - Unions don't have the guts to fight back.  tomreedtoon   Dec-12-08 06:11 AM   #75 
  - Of course it's about Union Busting....  Sherman A1   Dec-11-08 02:25 PM   #21 
  - These mother fuckers  wiboy   Dec-11-08 02:40 PM   #22 
  - Of course, they're unAmerican, anti-patriots who hate the American middle class way of life  aldo   Dec-11-08 02:43 PM   #23 
  - K&R  Lifetimedem   Dec-11-08 02:44 PM   #24 
  - Jim DeMint (Crook-SC) is currently on MSNBC shittin on the unions (again)  halo experiment   Dec-11-08 02:46 PM   #25 
  - he got lots of air time on NPR, uncontested, yesterday...NPR drank the kool aid  amborin   Dec-12-08 04:04 AM   #67 
  - This is just one reason why the GOP will be in the wilderness for quite some time  jmauller   Dec-11-08 02:51 PM   #26 
  - Loyalty to domestic brands is quite high in the South  TheBorealAvenger   Dec-11-08 09:11 PM   #58 
  - Well, we know where their real loyalties lie.  The Backlash Cometh   Dec-11-08 02:53 PM   #27 
  - The management signed the contracts  Turbineguy   Dec-11-08 03:16 PM   #28 
  - Of course this about Union busting. We're in a CLASS WAR folks.  TheGoldenRule   Dec-11-08 03:16 PM   #29 
  - Ask me again in about three months  nolabels   Dec-11-08 08:41 PM   #50 
  - Not everywhere, at least.  NCevilDUer   Dec-12-08 09:31 AM   #96 
  - As always, I invite everyone to post what they know/feel about DeMint ...  ColbertWatcher   Dec-11-08 04:23 PM   #30 
  - No surprise here...GOP mantra, work 3 jobs; no protection; ...  rasputin1952   Dec-11-08 04:51 PM   #31 
  - Muerte al Sur!  sasquatch   Dec-11-08 05:06 PM   #32 
  - I had to shut this off when I heard it yeaterday  Hydra   Dec-11-08 05:07 PM   #33 
  - ....  electricD   Dec-11-08 05:27 PM   #34 
  - Oh yeah  electricD   Dec-11-08 05:35 PM   #35 
  - Pipefitters 537 Boston  billybob537   Dec-11-08 06:10 PM   #36 
     - need to lay some pipes up the side of Republicans Senators.  Historic NY   Dec-11-08 07:06 PM   #40 
     - Now defunct UE Local 610 checking in too.  FREEWILL56   Dec-12-08 08:10 AM   #85 
  - welcome to the site!  Blue_Tires   Dec-11-08 07:09 PM   #41 
  - Welcome to DU  rockymountaindem   Dec-11-08 08:10 PM   #47 
  - MAPE checking in.  eyepaddle   Dec-12-08 08:48 AM   #92 
  - It's being done "to protect the unions and not the people"?  Canuckistanian   Dec-11-08 06:34 PM   #37 
  - No he doesn't he is a privileged Republican ASSHOLE.  Historic NY   Dec-11-08 07:06 PM   #39 
     - Also, he's a SOUTHERN Republican asshole  Canuckistanian   Dec-11-08 07:34 PM   #44 
  - the GOP is killing off any remaining cred they had with the  Blue_Tires   Dec-11-08 07:10 PM   #42 
  - When the banks wanted bailouts  Malidictus Maximus   Dec-11-08 07:32 PM   #43 
  - THANK YOU! I keep forgetting to post that "small" fact about the REPUKES!  TankLV   Dec-12-08 10:02 AM   #104 
  - I say we should email this a-h. nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Dec-11-08 08:09 PM   #46 
  - Fuck them all then...........  BlueJac   Dec-11-08 08:36 PM   #48 
  - Don't forget to includ our "illustrious" john ensign from Nevada...  TankLV   Dec-12-08 10:05 AM   #105 
  - get these rat bastards out of our lives.....  spanone   Dec-11-08 08:39 PM   #49 
  - Yeah, it's those union bosses taking home 15 or 20 million a year.  progressoid   Dec-11-08 08:51 PM   #51 
  - When Jim DeMint was a member  WoodyM   Dec-11-08 08:51 PM   #52 
  - The GOP with the help of free trade Democrats  tired of the right   Dec-11-08 08:52 PM   #53 
  - The unions work in the freest of free markets, the labor market. If the labor provided by UAW  RGBolen   Dec-11-08 08:57 PM   #54 
  - These fools know fucking nothing.............  BlueJac   Dec-11-08 08:59 PM   #55 
  - I wrote to my Senators earlier today  me b zola   Dec-11-08 09:08 PM   #56 
  - Amazing Republican math...slash wages and then expect people to buy shit  dugaresa   Dec-11-08 09:10 PM   #57 
  - F'ing union busting scumbags.  bagimin   Dec-11-08 09:28 PM   #59 
  - Gas cars are antiquated  PATRICK   Dec-11-08 09:35 PM   #60 
  - Tryin' to re-fight the civil war, Jimbo?  muntrv   Dec-11-08 10:22 PM   #61 
  - Sounds like a good idea.  cartach   Dec-12-08 04:07 AM   #68 
  - No kidding. I'd give them best two out of three.  provis99   Dec-13-08 12:47 AM   #129 
  - Hey A-hole DeMint, the antiquated concept is your pension and healthcare.  Raschel   Dec-11-08 11:43 PM   #62 
  - IBEW Local 5 checking in  Wink   Dec-12-08 12:38 AM   #63 
  - I was in the IBEW for over a decade.  BobTheSubgenius   Dec-13-08 02:35 AM   #130 
  - So how long before Pelosi and Reid lay down, spread  NBachers   Dec-12-08 01:03 AM   #64 
  - these Repukes are so fukin cynical, selfish, and stupid.  BREMPRO   Dec-12-08 02:14 AM   #65 
  - They sold the $73 lie  mtnester   Dec-12-08 04:14 AM   #69 
  - K&R n/t  myrna minx   Dec-12-08 04:16 AM   #70 
  - "appear to be an antiquated concept in todays economy."  Hubert Flottz   Dec-12-08 04:22 AM   #71 
  - Go fuck yourself DeMint!! nt  and-justice-for-all   Dec-12-08 05:24 AM   #72 
  - What about all the American families the GOP is going to "Bust"  Hubert Flottz   Dec-12-08 05:27 AM   #73 
  - So called "free" market fundamentalists  depakid   Dec-12-08 05:35 AM   #74 
  - Exactly! RW union-hate is spewing all about in SW MO, although even the  NoFederales   Dec-12-08 08:19 AM   #86 
     - "Where's that hope, again?"  depakid   Dec-12-08 08:38 AM   #89 
        - The culture of corruption practioners in Congress, the lobbyists,  NoFederales   Dec-12-08 10:57 AM   #110 
  - Fucking Hoovers. At least they've come out and made themselves irrelevant  HamdenRice   Dec-12-08 06:15 AM   #76 
  - And where is their offer........  Lost River Ledger   Dec-12-08 06:31 AM   #77 
  - The Senate republicans just sealed bu$h's fate of a total failure  liberal N proud   Dec-12-08 06:31 AM   #78 
  - Dimwitt is another cookie from the same cookie-cutter of critical thinking as GWBu$h.  DemoTex   Dec-12-08 06:36 AM   #79 
  - against unions, Social Security and Medicare  Enrique   Dec-12-08 07:14 AM   #81 
  - This is going to be bad for the whole country.  daggahead   Dec-12-08 07:35 AM   #82 
  - "Barnacles"?  RT_Fanatic   Dec-12-08 08:00 AM   #83 
  - Only Governance Left  coach3415   Dec-12-08 08:10 AM   #84 
  - My Granddad told me  Upfront   Dec-12-08 08:35 AM   #87 
  - Sadly, he will win votes from GOPers over that  gollygee   Dec-12-08 08:37 AM   #88 
  - Republicans don't realize what they owe to Unions.....  lib2DaBone   Dec-12-08 08:54 AM   #93 
  - Umm - we haven't had an "eight hour day" for a long time now - that vanished long ago...  TankLV   Dec-12-08 10:10 AM   #107 
  - I've never been in a union, but I hate the fuckers who hate unions!!! :^)  codjh9   Dec-12-08 09:37 AM   #97 
  - Filthy Bastards, these Repukes  lenegal   Dec-12-08 09:46 AM   #98 
  - Abraham Lincoln Was A Strong Advocate For Collective Bargaining  LincolnRepublican   Dec-12-08 09:47 AM   #99 
  - Mitch McConnell is a piece of shit  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Dec-12-08 09:48 AM   #100 
  - Nope, it's all about how we make shitty cars and they want to let the Transplants take over  DainBramaged   Dec-12-08 09:53 AM   #102 
  - While there are some quality issues with many domestic cars ...  TahitiNut   Dec-12-08 12:31 PM   #115 
  - OK, if McConnell wants some "busting" done lets start with him.  Piewhacket   Dec-12-08 10:08 AM   #106 
  - So unions are "antiquated" AND we don't need universal healthcare.  Marr   Dec-12-08 10:14 AM   #108 
  - Politically, I can't say I blame them...  newtothegame   Dec-12-08 10:39 AM   #109 
  - Does anybody know any Republicans who care about anything other than money and making  mnhtnbb   Dec-12-08 11:50 AM   #112 
  - I've been saying for year that there should be an organized labor  EnviroBat   Dec-12-08 12:19 PM   #113 
  - KamaAina: Well, I'm not trying to get rid of the repukes,  KamaAina   Dec-12-08 12:22 PM   #114 
  - Who elected Mr. DeMented? He sounds like the reincarnation of Helms, or something  LeftishBrit   Dec-12-08 12:34 PM   #116 
  - Reason number 10,000 of why I hate Republicans  lenegal   Dec-12-08 12:52 PM   #117 
  - It has been said that the senators from the south  WoodyM   Dec-12-08 03:20 PM   #118 
  - Not to mention the supply chains that need Detroit to stay alive  halo experiment   Dec-12-08 03:37 PM   #119 
  - An email from Michael Moore  mayahbird   Dec-12-08 04:51 PM   #120 
  - The hell you say.  Fire1   Dec-12-08 05:34 PM   #121 
  - I know I'll get flamed for typing this ....  cosmicone   Dec-12-08 05:43 PM   #122 
  - You have bought into the bullshit about union workers being over-paid etc  halo experiment   Dec-12-08 08:34 PM   #125 
  - Another reason to NEVER EVER vote for ANY Republican again!  RoccoR5955   Dec-12-08 07:14 PM   #123 
  - The crap they right winger spew is sickening...  humbled_opinion   Dec-12-08 08:21 PM   #124 
  - Heres a way to shut that freeper up  halo experiment   Dec-12-08 08:42 PM   #126 
     - LOL  humbled_opinion   Dec-13-08 01:54 PM   #133 
        - Ok then, lets compare  halo experiment   Dec-13-08 02:00 PM   #134 
  - I'm at the end of caring anymore  DissedByBush   Dec-12-08 09:16 PM   #127 
  - Couldn't all the unions show some solidarity somehow?  Peggy Day   Dec-12-08 10:04 PM   #128 
  - Have a great weekend......brought to you by organised labor.  Vroomfondel   Dec-13-08 03:08 AM   #131 
  - Geeezzz, fucking republicans...  LaPera   Dec-13-08 03:33 AM   #132 

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