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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 10:23 AM
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49. He may turn out to be guilty, but this is the Bush admin that is trying to game the legal system.
The Bushies are doing all they can to throw a monkey wrench into the works as Democrats take power. He's been signing all sorts of exec orders to do that, things that Obama will have to undo.

The Bushies are completely unprincipled, and they choose which politicians to go after. It's not as if they simply investigate suspected crime. They pick a target, like the former governor of NY, they illegally spy on him and track him. Then they find a reason to pursue him.

How anyone can see what they have done to the Seigelman and Spitzer, and still believe anything the Bush Justice dept says, is beyond me.
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  -Feds Charge Blagojevich Tried To Sell Obama's Senate Seat babylonsister  Dec-09-08 09:14 AM   #0 
  - They went to his home, handcuffed him and arrested him  seemslikeadream   Dec-09-08 09:16 AM   #1 
  - He's been under investigation for 3 years, yet tried to pull this?  babylonsister   Dec-09-08 09:17 AM   #3 
  - and they did it because they're BUSHIES!  TexasObserver   Dec-09-08 11:20 AM   #86 
     - Knee-jerk, lazy thinking.  Raskolnik   Dec-09-08 11:38 AM   #93 
     - No, they did it because Blago's crooked enough to BE a Bushie  johnfunk   Dec-09-08 11:39 AM   #94 
  - So now what? Who chooses Obama's successor? nt  Vinca   Dec-09-08 09:17 AM   #2 
  - I have no idea; maybe his replacement? I wouldn't trust him with any  babylonsister   Dec-09-08 09:18 AM   #5 
  - Just checked and - thank heavens - the Lt. Gov. is a Democrat. nt  Vinca   Dec-09-08 09:24 AM   #15 
     - pheeeew.. thanks.. i was panicky thinking a repub will  Sebass1271   Dec-09-08 09:52 AM   #35 
  - Good Question...Blago's A Black Hole  KharmaTrain   Dec-09-08 09:28 AM   #20 
  - Lt. gov Pat Quinn makes the chioce if G Rod is convicted  Chisox08   Dec-09-08 10:56 AM   #70 
  - Good lord - but I can't say I am surprised  rurallib   Dec-09-08 09:18 AM   #4 
  - It's Pretty Embarassing  ProfessorGAC   Dec-09-08 09:27 AM   #18 
  - Is this the guy that just won the election or what?  Sebass1271   Dec-09-08 09:19 AM   #6 
  - No. Here's wiki:  babylonsister   Dec-09-08 09:21 AM   #10 
     - THANKS. but didnt' someone else won that seat and will  Sebass1271   Dec-09-08 09:39 AM   #27 
        - No. He is/was the sitting governor. That's why he was supposed to  babylonsister   Dec-09-08 09:42 AM   #28 
        - ohhh ok.. maybe i am confusing it with DE new Governor..  Sebass1271   Dec-09-08 09:49 AM   #32 
           - All statewide officeholders in IL are Democrats. nt  tritsofme   Dec-09-08 09:57 AM   #37 
        - dick durbin just won RE-election to HIS senate seat in november...  QuestionAll   Dec-09-08 10:48 AM   #63 
  - He's a real scum bag.  tritsofme   Dec-09-08 09:19 AM   #7 
  - I just saw the story in the NY Times  demokatgurrl   Dec-09-08 09:20 AM   #8 
  - He was just arrested this a.m. nt  babylonsister   Dec-09-08 09:22 AM   #11 
  - We're talking about the Bush administration, and the GOP, running Justice.  TexasObserver   Dec-09-08 09:20 AM   #9 
  - Thanks for that dose of reality. I guess we'll see as this unfolds. nt  babylonsister   Dec-09-08 09:23 AM   #12 
  - He may turn out to be guilty, but this is the Bush admin that is trying to game the legal system.  TexasObserver   Dec-09-08 10:23 AM   #49 
  - Don't Know About That, T.O.  ProfessorGAC   Dec-09-08 09:28 AM   #22 
  - Were Seigelman and Spitzer targeted and prosecuted for political reasons?  TexasObserver   Dec-09-08 10:26 AM   #51 
     - I Don't Have The Same Sense Of Omnipotence About. . .  ProfessorGAC   Dec-09-08 10:34 AM   #54 
        - Let's address Spitzer. Do you really think they investigated him over $5000 cash?!  TexasObserver   Dec-09-08 10:44 AM   #58 
           - We Agree On Parts. Just Not On The Whole  ProfessorGAC   Dec-09-08 10:50 AM   #65 
              - As I've said, he may be guilty. But I'll believe it when Obama's Justice pursues it.  TexasObserver   Dec-09-08 10:55 AM   #68 
  - this SMELLS like a RAT!  Sebass1271   Dec-09-08 09:36 AM   #25 
  - The Rats Might Just Live In The Governor's Mansion  ProfessorGAC   Dec-09-08 09:39 AM   #26 
  - It does. He may be a rat, but until there's a trial, I'll believe he's innocent.  TexasObserver   Dec-09-08 10:28 AM   #52 
     - Theyhave him on tape. Innocence is not something that applies here...  truebrit71   Dec-09-08 10:45 AM   #59 
        - That's wrong. Innocence is presumed, with or without tape.  TexasObserver   Dec-09-08 10:58 AM   #71 
           - Innocence until proven guilty is a constraint placed on the state, not you and me  Dreamer Tatum   Dec-09-08 11:16 AM   #82 
  - No, this doesn't "smell a lot like that."  Raskolnik   Dec-09-08 10:00 AM   #39 
  - Yes it does.  TexasObserver   Dec-09-08 10:29 AM   #53 
     - Ah, *my* ignorance is the problem here?  Raskolnik   Dec-09-08 10:44 AM   #57 
        - some things speak for themselves  TexasObserver   Dec-09-08 10:46 AM   #60 
           - Bullshit. You are talking out of your ass.  Raskolnik   Dec-09-08 10:48 AM   #62 
              - I'll speak to the intelligent posters, as that is my intent, anyway.  TexasObserver   Dec-09-08 10:54 AM   #67 
                 - You are talking out of your ass about Blago's arrest.  Raskolnik   Dec-09-08 11:02 AM   #73 
                    - I don't talk to the grossly uninformed more than a few times.  TexasObserver   Dec-09-08 11:09 AM   #77 
                       - You clearly haven't bothered to find out the facts of this case, and now you're running away.  Raskolnik   Dec-09-08 11:13 AM   #79 
                       - Read BEFORE you post, not after, or even during.  Dreamer Tatum   Dec-09-08 11:18 AM   #84 
  - How Embarrassing For You.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Dec-09-08 11:28 AM   #91 
  - BRAKING NEWS!!! (see clip)  FormerRushFan   Dec-09-08 09:23 AM   #13 
  - tehe BUSTED  stuntcat   Dec-09-08 11:04 AM   #74 
     - Is that a picture of Brak Obama?  johnfunk   Dec-09-08 11:40 AM   #96 
        - !!!  stuntcat   Dec-09-08 12:27 PM   #97 
  - MSNBC;The Department of Justice alleges that in exchange for the Senate appointment, Blagojevich dis  maddezmom   Dec-09-08 09:24 AM   #14 
  - His chutpah is astounding. He actually thought he wouldn't get caught?! nt  babylonsister   Dec-09-08 09:26 AM   #17 
  - A little re-write...  Peace Patriot   Dec-09-08 09:44 AM   #29 
     - if only.... n/t  Blue_Tires   Dec-09-08 10:56 AM   #69 
  - Yes, He's Not Only Stupid, He's Arrogant  KharmaTrain   Dec-09-08 09:25 AM   #16 
  - I smell a Mukasey charge ala Siegelman  MiniMe   Dec-09-08 09:28 AM   #19 
  - Don't  ProfessorGAC   Dec-09-08 09:29 AM   #23 
  - Your sense of smell isn't accurate in this case.  Raskolnik   Dec-09-08 10:09 AM   #46 
  - Yes, of course.  TexasObserver   Dec-09-08 11:00 AM   #72 
  - Total dumbass.  Vash the Stampede   Dec-09-08 09:28 AM   #21 
  - There would have to be other STUPID people.  Are_grits_groceries   Dec-09-08 09:35 AM   #24 
  - There is no rat, Blagojevich seems to be thoroughly corrupt and Fitzgerald is a a good guy  Jennicut   Dec-09-08 09:46 AM   #30 
  - As I said, I don't doubt he deserves it.  Are_grits_groceries   Dec-09-08 09:48 AM   #31 
     - How is this timing "convenient?"  Raskolnik   Dec-09-08 10:05 AM   #43 
     - It's convenient in our favor  ProudToBeBlueInRhody   Dec-09-08 10:38 AM   #55 
     - My initial thought was that it's convenient for B of A, not the Bushies  petronius   Dec-09-08 11:10 AM   #78 
     - Yes, as you note, the timing is key for the political implications.  TexasObserver   Dec-09-08 11:17 AM   #83 
        - And the timing of this particular indictment is actually beneficial for Democrats.  Raskolnik   Dec-09-08 11:23 AM   #88 
  - Thank GAWD!  BlooInBloo   Dec-09-08 09:49 AM   #33 
  - A FEDERAL Charge?  zorahopkins   Dec-09-08 09:50 AM   #34 
  - "I bet if you go searching, you *ill find Bush/Cheney behind these charges."  Raskolnik   Dec-09-08 10:03 AM   #40 
  - I'm from Illinois  Chisox08   Dec-09-08 11:05 AM   #75 
  - If he is proven guilty, which I expect, I hope he spends a lot of time  neverforget   Dec-09-08 09:55 AM   #36 
  - Another FALSE Progressive Enemy of the Worker  oldbolshevik   Dec-09-08 09:58 AM   #38 
  - Where is the line?  leftofthedial   Dec-09-08 10:03 AM   #41 
  - There is no doubt in any person's mind here in Illinois that Blago did it  Robbien   Dec-09-08 10:06 AM   #44 
  - About fifty steps behind Blago, that's where.  Raskolnik   Dec-09-08 10:08 AM   #45 
  - So Contessa Brewer actually asked if this investigation taints  malaise   Dec-09-08 10:05 AM   #42 
  - Grasping at straws? Why would she even think that? nt  babylonsister   Dec-09-08 10:18 AM   #47 
  - Exactly! In her sweetest  zidzi   Dec-09-08 10:42 AM   #56 
  - She obviously hadn't read the part where Team Obama told him in effect to go pound sand...  truebrit71   Dec-09-08 10:47 AM   #61 
  - This is dumb as the charges that Obama wasn't born in the USA  B Calm   Dec-09-08 10:22 AM   #48 
  - Are you serious?  Raskolnik   Dec-09-08 10:49 AM   #64 
  - ???? Blago is a complete and utter scumbag.  QuestionAll   Dec-09-08 10:50 AM   #66 
  - The guy is guilty; Patrick Fitzgerald is up explaining it now. It's not the same. nt  babylonsister   Dec-09-08 11:14 AM   #80 
  - Well, it's certainly run by the same people.  TexasObserver   Dec-09-08 11:15 AM   #81 
  - And all the tapes they have with Blago  prolesunited   Dec-09-08 11:21 AM   #87 
     - So, you've heard the tapes, authenticated them, determined context, etc. ?!  TexasObserver   Dec-09-08 11:24 AM   #89 
        - Believe what you want  prolesunited   Dec-09-08 11:25 AM   #90 
           - I believe what the evidence reveals, not what some prosecutor says.  TexasObserver   Dec-09-08 11:29 AM   #92 
              - Yet you know nothing about this case, and haven't bothered to even learn.  Raskolnik   Dec-09-08 11:39 AM   #95 
  - LOL, if it ain't nailed down, I guess it's for sale.  lonestarnot   Dec-09-08 10:24 AM   #50 
  - G Rod was trying to give our struggling economy a boost  Chisox08   Dec-09-08 11:08 AM   #76 
  - Was it a pre-Xmas sale? We're well-heeled lobbyists part of the deal?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Dec-09-08 11:19 AM   #85 
 

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