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5. I've been wondering if some aspect of a situation like this
would ever show up on DU and what the resulting discussion would be like.
From the time I can remember, I knew that cats did it, dogs did it, people did it, and what was the big deal, other that it was somehow supposed to be shameful to talk about it and people weren't supposed to do it unless they were married to each other.

By the time I was eight years old, I was tasked with taking our cow to the neighbor's bull a couple of miles away, and I knew how excited the cow was at the prospect.

In an Ideal world, there would be no harm in kids seeing their parents engaging in sex, but involving them in it amounts to criminal behavior and should be discouraged.

Animals and people are not equal, no matter who says otherwise.
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  -The punishment for having sex in front of a 9-yr.-old kid? Probation. LiberalHeart  Mar-20-07 08:55 PM   #0 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Mar-20-07 08:58 PM   #1 
  - Absolutely sickening.  haruka3_2000   Mar-20-07 08:58 PM   #2 
  - The mother was having sex with the boyfriend in front of the girl.  lizzy   Mar-20-07 10:23 PM   #24 
     - Ah okay. I'm glad the kid lives with her father.  haruka3_2000   Mar-20-07 10:32 PM   #26 
  - Wow!  cat_girl25   Mar-20-07 09:09 PM   #3 
  - Someone may have taken liberties with the actual charges  sandnsea   Mar-20-07 09:09 PM   #4 
  - perhaps this clears that up a little  Marrah_G   Mar-20-07 10:20 PM   #23 
     - Thank you  sandnsea   Mar-20-07 10:50 PM   #27 
        - Yeah, the short AP version just doesn't tell the whole thing.  Marrah_G   Mar-20-07 10:52 PM   #28 
  - I've been wondering if some aspect of a situation like this  EST   Mar-20-07 09:21 PM   #5 
  - Wow, that post flip flopped more than John McCain!  Atman   Mar-20-07 09:30 PM   #7 
  - Heehee! Glad you liked it.  EST   Mar-20-07 10:26 PM   #25 
  - Well, if -watching- is involved, there are many millions of internet users  karlrschneider   Mar-20-07 09:35 PM   #10 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Mar-20-07 09:26 PM   #6 
  - They weren't just letting her watch them  Marrah_G   Mar-20-07 09:31 PM   #8 
  - Some people over here think that is "sexual education", I guess...  Katzenkavalier   Mar-20-07 09:38 PM   #12 
  - Some people over here seem to have never gotten any.  karlrschneider   Mar-20-07 09:43 PM   #16 
  - That's lovely. Money shot lessons at the tender age of 9!?  TWriterD   Mar-20-07 09:42 PM   #14 
  - So you were present during these activities? The article mentions none  karlrschneider   Mar-20-07 09:42 PM   #15 
     - From the Providence Journal  Marrah_G   Mar-20-07 10:08 PM   #18 
  - Well, since the kid never complained, I guess she liked watching her parents go at it.  cat_girl25   Mar-20-07 09:35 PM   #9 
  - Excuse me? She is 9  Katzenkavalier   Mar-20-07 09:40 PM   #13 
     - That is true.  cat_girl25   Mar-20-07 10:13 PM   #20 
  - Creepy (and some DUers are creepy, too)  Katzenkavalier   Mar-20-07 09:37 PM   #11 
  - I agree. This is a form of child abuse. There's nothing natural about it.  Chimichurri   Mar-21-07 07:18 AM   #56 
  - Most ironic post of the day...  SidDithers   Mar-21-07 10:24 PM   #140 
  - My parents only had sex four times...  rucky   Mar-21-07 10:23 AM   #99 
  - How old-fashioned of you!  spoony   Mar-22-07 12:51 AM   #149 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-20-07 09:43 PM   #17 
  - How'd this get unlocked?  devilgrrl   Mar-20-07 10:11 PM   #19 
  - The mods had to clean it up.  cat_girl25   Mar-20-07 10:13 PM   #21 
  - This judge is usually tough  Marrah_G   Mar-20-07 10:15 PM   #22 
  - By the time most children are nine...  Jonathan50   Mar-20-07 11:00 PM   #29 
  - Two wrongs don't make a right  Katzenkavalier   Mar-20-07 11:02 PM   #30 
  - Sex is not "bad"  lynyrd_skynyrd   Mar-20-07 11:18 PM   #34 
  - This was beyond just seeing 2 adults having sex  Marrah_G   Mar-20-07 11:03 PM   #31 
  - Exactly.  Katzenkavalier   Mar-20-07 11:18 PM   #35 
  - Watching daddy beat up mommy  sandnsea   Mar-20-07 11:15 PM   #33 
  - What???  cali   Mar-21-07 10:15 AM   #95 
     - If it's directed at the kids, yes  sandnsea   Mar-21-07 12:13 PM   #118 
  - The double standard of sex and violence  question everything   Mar-22-07 12:43 AM   #148 
  - In Europe, children see sex  lynyrd_skynyrd   Mar-20-07 11:15 PM   #32 
  - So, in Europe  Katzenkavalier   Mar-20-07 11:20 PM   #36 
  - You should  lynyrd_skynyrd   Mar-20-07 11:25 PM   #37 
  - Well said and I totally agree...  XOKCowboy   Mar-21-07 02:01 PM   #135 
  - Interesting that no one answered my question.  Jonathan50   Mar-20-07 11:27 PM   #38 
  - Your question is invalid  lynyrd_skynyrd   Mar-20-07 11:28 PM   #39 
     - Not invalid at all  Jonathan50   Mar-20-07 11:43 PM   #41 
  - When I lived in Europe I didn't see/hear anyone  Confound W   Mar-21-07 10:39 AM   #102 
  - Where in Europe????  LeftishBrit   Mar-21-07 11:23 AM   #109 
  - Are you honestly saying you think this happens in europe?  Marrah_G   Mar-21-07 11:30 AM   #110 
  - Of course they do!  Dorian Gray   Mar-21-07 01:36 PM   #125 
  - The parents just have a very liberal attitude about sex  gravity   Mar-20-07 11:43 PM   #40 
  - I would agree that it's unorthodox  lynyrd_skynyrd   Mar-20-07 11:59 PM   #42 
  - From Post 56 (again...)  AmyDeLune   Mar-21-07 12:01 AM   #43 
     - How about answering my question  Jonathan50   Mar-21-07 12:06 AM   #44 
     - Fallacy of Choice  cgrindley   Mar-21-07 11:48 AM   #112 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-21-07 12:28 AM   #45 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-21-07 12:46 AM   #46 
  - First of all, why so black and white?  lukasahero   Mar-21-07 07:31 AM   #59 
  - FALSE DICHOTOMY  gollygee   Mar-21-07 10:19 AM   #97 
  - Logical fallacy  TrogL   Mar-21-07 01:39 PM   #126 
     - Not a false dilemma...  Jonathan50   Mar-22-07 01:04 AM   #151 
  - Wow.  Horse with no Name   Mar-21-07 12:46 AM   #47 
  - The punishment seems a little too harsh n/t  951-Riverside   Mar-21-07 12:47 AM   #48 
  - There are many disturbing replies on this thread.  LouisianaLiberal   Mar-21-07 02:08 AM   #49 
  - Scary isn't it?  OurVotesCount-Ohio   Mar-21-07 10:15 AM   #96 
  - Agreed  cgrindley   Mar-21-07 11:52 AM   #114 
  - Thank you LouisianaLiberal...  Dorian Gray   Mar-21-07 01:41 PM   #127 
  - For sure  Marie26   Mar-21-07 02:05 PM   #136 
  - Shouldn't there be a forum dedicated to this type of post?  ToeBot   Mar-21-07 02:23 AM   #50 
  - I like the idea of an "Inflammatory Bullshit" forum.  smoogatz   Mar-21-07 02:00 PM   #134 
  - In my liberal opinion...  jayctravis   Mar-21-07 02:30 AM   #51 
  - as far as it being kinder to not let the child testify--it's a tough call  orleans   Mar-21-07 03:07 AM   #52 
  - It's child abuse. It's sexual abuse.  cali   Mar-21-07 03:54 AM   #53 
  - Answer the question please  Jonathan50   Mar-21-07 07:11 AM   #55 
  - Stupid loaded question, and  cali   Mar-21-07 07:29 AM   #57 
  - So you won't answer the question  Jonathan50   Mar-21-07 07:34 AM   #60 
     - LOL!!!  cali   Mar-21-07 07:42 AM   #61 
        - Please show me where the child was asked to watch..  Jonathan50   Mar-21-07 07:59 AM   #63 
           - Duh.  cali   Mar-21-07 08:11 AM   #65 
  - Wrong question  Marrah_G   Mar-21-07 07:46 AM   #62 
  - You take a few isolated incidents and then condemn an entire town...  Jonathan50   Mar-21-07 08:04 AM   #64 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-21-07 08:14 AM   #66 
     - All I'm doing is asking a question...  Jonathan50   Mar-21-07 08:32 AM   #70 
        - They are both bad  Marrah_G   Mar-21-07 08:38 AM   #71 
        - If they are both bad.....  Jonathan50   Mar-21-07 08:52 AM   #76 
           - The two are not comparable  Marrah_G   Mar-21-07 09:00 AM   #80 
        - I answered your question. You're too  cali   Mar-21-07 08:40 AM   #72 
        - No, that's not a loving act..  Jonathan50   Mar-21-07 09:01 AM   #82 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-21-07 09:09 AM   #86 
           - I don't countenance child abuse....  Jonathan50   Mar-21-07 10:09 AM   #94 
              - Tough. It is child abuse. Period. Under the law. Everywhere.  cali   Mar-21-07 10:42 AM   #103 
                 - A thought experiment  Jonathan50   Mar-21-07 11:06 AM   #105 
                    - Your Entire Premise Is So Ignorantly Flawed I'm Amazed You Keep Pushing It.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-21-07 11:40 AM   #111 
                    - .  Marrah_G   Mar-21-07 11:51 AM   #113 
                    - Right On OMC  Madspirit   Mar-21-07 11:59 AM   #117 
                    - Folks here might want to see this  lukasahero   Mar-21-07 01:36 PM   #124 
                    - Bravo, OMC!  Dorian Gray   Mar-21-07 01:48 PM   #130 
                    - Senior cadets at West Point have a hard time seperating fantasy from reality.  Jonathan50   Mar-21-07 10:28 PM   #142 
                       - Seniors at  Big Pappa   Mar-22-07 12:56 AM   #150 
                          - You managed to miss the point entirely..  Jonathan50   Mar-22-07 01:29 AM   #153 
                    - So a question.  Puglover   Mar-21-07 11:55 AM   #116 
                       - Nope..  Jonathan50   Mar-21-07 10:17 PM   #139 
           - You have stated all in this one post  Dorian Gray   Mar-21-07 01:46 PM   #129 
           - I would never want to be alone with someone else's children  Jonathan50   Mar-22-07 07:26 AM   #157 
              - I don't think anything.....  Dorian Gray   Mar-22-07 11:33 AM   #162 
           - So why do we arrest people for exposing themselves to children?  joe_sixpack   Mar-21-07 10:05 PM   #137 
              - Because it offends people...  Jonathan50   Mar-22-07 12:23 PM   #163 
        - Your question has been answered, at least twice. If you don't like  Bunny   Mar-21-07 08:50 AM   #74 
     - I lived there for 12 years  Marrah_G   Mar-21-07 08:31 AM   #69 
        - Poverty has a way of destroying communities..  Jonathan50   Mar-21-07 08:58 AM   #78 
           - This is not about teaching anything  Marrah_G   Mar-21-07 09:02 AM   #83 
  - False dichotomy  gollygee   Mar-21-07 09:36 AM   #89 
  - No matter your emotional response, it doesn't make you right  lynyrd_skynyrd   Mar-21-07 08:44 AM   #73 
  - This has nothing to do with other cultures.  cali   Mar-21-07 08:58 AM   #79 
  - The problem is not so much, as I see it, that the child HAPPENED to see the sex act  LeftishBrit   Mar-21-07 11:16 AM   #107 
  - Honestly  Dorian Gray   Mar-21-07 01:50 PM   #131 
  - Ditto  gollygee   Mar-21-07 09:36 AM   #88 
  - Of course it isn't; I'm deeply frightened that it's illegal in the US.  Donald Ian Rankin   Mar-21-07 01:04 PM   #120 
  - Bravo, Cali!  Dorian Gray   Mar-21-07 01:42 PM   #128 
  - Wierd. But, what if they all lived in the same room? (nt)  w4rma   Mar-21-07 04:14 AM   #54 
  - Gee, I don't know.  cali   Mar-21-07 07:31 AM   #58 
     - That method worked for thousands of years...n/t  Virginia Dare   Mar-21-07 08:29 AM   #68 
  - This happened to me on many occasions from the ages 6-9 yrs  movie_girl99   Mar-21-07 08:27 AM   #67 
  - Thank you for the most enlightening post in this thread  MathGuy   Mar-21-07 08:52 AM   #75 
  - yeah, it never ceases to amaze me. n/t  movie_girl99   Mar-21-07 09:08 AM   #85 
  - Thank you for your honest answer. I'm sorry that you went through  Bunny   Mar-21-07 08:53 AM   #77 
  - Thanks..I appreciate your kind words n/t  movie_girl99   Mar-21-07 09:08 AM   #84 
  - .  gollygee   Mar-21-07 09:37 AM   #90 
  - Oh Movie girl...  Dorian Gray   Mar-21-07 01:52 PM   #133 
     - Thank you for the kind words  movie_girl99   Mar-22-07 08:05 AM   #160 
        - You are very strong  Dorian Gray   Mar-22-07 11:32 AM   #161 
  - Probation isn't even appropriate - it's not illegal.  qwlauren35   Mar-21-07 09:00 AM   #81 
  - It clearly is illegal under RI law.  cali   Mar-21-07 09:11 AM   #87 
  - I sleep with my daughter  gollygee   Mar-21-07 09:47 AM   #91 
  - Just so I'm up on the DU standards for raising children . . .  gollygee   Mar-21-07 09:51 AM   #92 
  - What brought #1 on?  TWriterD   Mar-21-07 10:01 AM   #93 
     - There is a group at DU that think all children...  rexcat   Mar-21-07 10:35 AM   #100 
        - Yikes. I guess I've avoided those threads. (n/t)  TWriterD   Mar-21-07 10:51 AM   #104 
           - Don't worry, they re-emerge every so often in the Lounge.  blondeatlast   Mar-21-07 11:19 AM   #108 
  - Wasn't this on SVU the other day? n/t  rucky   Mar-21-07 10:21 AM   #98 
  - It's amazing...  youthere   Mar-21-07 10:38 AM   #101 
  - my two cents  jollyreaper2112   Mar-21-07 11:12 AM   #106 
  - Interesting point..  Jonathan50   Mar-22-07 01:23 AM   #152 
  - Pedophiles  Madspirit   Mar-21-07 11:55 AM   #115 
  - Thanks, Madspirit.  Nikki Stone1   Mar-21-07 12:34 PM   #119 
  - Yep  MathGuy   Mar-21-07 01:07 PM   #121 
  - Thank you, thank you, thank you.  cali   Mar-21-07 01:10 PM   #122 
  - Thanks, Madspirit  Katzenkavalier   Mar-21-07 10:06 PM   #138 
  - PM me and I'll tell you my real name...  Jonathan50   Mar-22-07 07:34 AM   #158 
  - The last thread  Madspirit   Mar-21-07 01:18 PM   #123 
  - PS and kind of OT  Madspirit   Mar-21-07 01:52 PM   #132 
  - Yes, sex is a beautiful thing....  joe_sixpack   Mar-21-07 10:26 PM   #141 
  - I noticed there's a deleted subthread  thecatburgler   Mar-21-07 11:08 PM   #143 
  - I don't understand why torture porn like 24 is OK  Jonathan50   Mar-22-07 12:14 AM   #145 
  - I'm with Joe  Craftergrl   Mar-21-07 11:12 PM   #144 
  - what?!?? have they lost their minds!??!!  aananny7   Mar-22-07 12:30 AM   #146 
  - You mean Newt Gingrich, Ted Haggard, and Jimmy Swaggert  Lex   Mar-22-07 12:35 AM   #147 
  - Yeah, well all three are better than watching mommy  cali   Mar-22-07 03:11 AM   #155 
  - It wasn't really about teaching  Marrah_G   Mar-22-07 07:39 AM   #159 
  - you'd prefer, what exactly? Prison? Torture? Death Penalty?  ComerPerro   Mar-22-07 01:37 AM   #154 
  - Um it is called boundaries people  BoneDaddy   Mar-22-07 06:46 AM   #156 
 

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