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155. I'm so glad that the baby is okay.
And maybe it will be a lesson for others.

It is so sad, though, that parents are so strapped for cash that they have to water down their baby's formula.
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  -Baby nearly drowned by watered-down formula ("pro-lifers" created this economic crisis, mind you) Double_Talk_Express  Dec-01-08 04:03 PM   #0 
  - It's hard to fix stupid  slackmaster   Dec-01-08 04:08 PM   #1 
  - Seriously.  Midlodemocrat   Dec-01-08 04:09 PM   #2 
  - While she is quite stupid for it --- think of the conditions that caused her to do it. n/t  Double_Talk_Express   Dec-01-08 04:10 PM   #3 
  - The article says nothing other than she thought the formula was expensive  slackmaster   Dec-01-08 04:15 PM   #7 
     - The article says more than that  Tempest   Dec-01-08 04:32 PM   #21 
        - I didn't miss it, but that statement has zero information content  slackmaster   Dec-01-08 06:05 PM   #59 
  - Breastfeeding is the obvious solution for many, if not most poor mothers.  SoCalDem   Dec-01-08 04:11 PM   #5 
  - See reply #16. nt  OmelasExpat   Dec-01-08 04:29 PM   #18 
  - Like I said.. "Some"  SoCalDem   Dec-01-08 04:35 PM   #24 
     - The "some" you mention are not as rare as you think.  OmelasExpat   Dec-01-08 04:47 PM   #31 
     - The article never mentioned her job(s) or a(n) employer(s)  SoCalDem   Dec-01-08 04:52 PM   #33 
     - What do you have to do to get on WIC?  redstate_democrat   Dec-01-08 05:06 PM   #44 
        - Here in CA, it's based on income  SoCalDem   Dec-01-08 05:08 PM   #45 
        - WIC is not as hard to get as food stamps. We have many of our university faculty  electron_blue   Dec-02-08 11:13 AM   #144 
     - i worked and breast fed  barbtries   Dec-01-08 06:03 PM   #57 
        - Well, we also need some serious re-adjustment as a society in our  JerseygirlCT   Dec-03-08 07:20 AM   #163 
     - well, i didn't choose not to, but they do have that right. hate bfing politics...  krabigirl   Dec-01-08 06:27 PM   #72 
  - bfing is NOT easily learned, even if its natural.  krabigirl   Dec-01-08 06:25 PM   #70 
  - I needed two visits with a lactation consultation  gollygee   Dec-01-08 06:26 PM   #71 
  - lol, i needed five. After having a baby in the NICU for a month, used to pumped milk in a bottle.  krabigirl   Dec-01-08 06:29 PM   #75 
  - No problems with my first. Plenty with my second  JerseygirlCT   Dec-03-08 07:22 AM   #164 
  - My son would have died before he would breastfeed and that is per the opinion of several lactation  FedUpWithIt All   Dec-02-08 07:26 AM   #132 
  - I agree about breastfeeding  onlyadream   Dec-02-08 11:10 AM   #142 
  - I would hesitate to say that without knowing more details. I would be  Arkansas Granny   Dec-01-08 04:16 PM   #10 
  - You may be right, I am quick to criticize people who do things that seem to ME to be obviously wrong  slackmaster   Dec-01-08 04:18 PM   #13 
  - I'm glad you pointed that out.  FitzmasAgain   Dec-01-08 04:28 PM   #17 
  - People in desperate financial straits do desperate things  gollygee   Dec-01-08 04:22 PM   #14 
  - Self-delete  Crisco   Dec-01-08 04:38 PM   #26 
  - 'Desperate' often winds up looking like 'stupid'.  Dr_eldritch   Dec-01-08 05:48 PM   #54 
  - She's got a bigger case of "poor," IMO  Warpy   Dec-01-08 06:10 PM   #61 
  - Hospitals have had financial problems too  gollygee   Dec-01-08 06:17 PM   #63 
  - Wow. The empathy just OOZES.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Dec-03-08 08:00 AM   #168 
  - Ummm, breast feeding as an alternative to formula?  SheilaT   Dec-01-08 04:11 PM   #4 
  - Unfortunately, very young mothers sometimes prefer formula  SoCalDem   Dec-01-08 04:13 PM   #6 
  - The new mothers need money for breast pumps and breast milk storage containers  CottonBear   Dec-01-08 04:16 PM   #8 
  - That's true - most poor women don't have the ability to stay home and need to pump  gollygee   Dec-01-08 04:24 PM   #15 
  - Especially when baby formula contains Melamine!  quantessd   Dec-01-08 04:43 PM   #28 
  - Too many hospitals and doctors are given free formula, and find it easier  BrklynLiberal   Dec-01-08 04:59 PM   #37 
  - Thanks for the support.  SheilaT   Dec-01-08 05:43 PM   #53 
     - You are right. It is the ignorance that is the real problem. There was a story  BrklynLiberal   Dec-01-08 06:24 PM   #69 
  - well, some of us try and fail at bfing. there's nothing to "get."  krabigirl   Dec-01-08 06:23 PM   #67 
  - At least you were aware enough to know that your baby was not thriving  BrklynLiberal   Dec-01-08 06:27 PM   #74 
  - Formula is a fine alternative  Dorian Gray   Dec-02-08 07:12 AM   #129 
  - Sometimes babies can't take breast milk  RubyDuby in GA   Dec-02-08 10:17 AM   #139 
  - Boy....I must be really stupid too.....or am I just ignorant.....  canadianbeaver   Dec-01-08 04:16 PM   #9 
  - But you do understand that babies need a certain caloric intake, don't you?  slackmaster   Dec-01-08 04:17 PM   #11 
  - Choices made due to her personal economic situation....  canadianbeaver   Dec-01-08 04:59 PM   #38 
  - I know what you mean.  Lisa0825   Dec-01-08 05:54 PM   #55 
  - Just to let you know, I understood your post.  quantessd   Dec-01-08 07:25 PM   #97 
  - From one ignoramus to another...  LanternWaste   Dec-02-08 10:27 AM   #140 
  - The baby didn't get sick from getting too skinny  gollygee   Dec-01-08 06:22 PM   #65 
  - Honestly, I didn't know about it either, but I don't have kids  Truth Hurts A Lot   Dec-01-08 06:34 PM   #76 
  - i didn't know either n/t  prayin4rain   Dec-03-08 07:15 AM   #161 
  - The economic crisis isn't killing babies,  boozepusher   Dec-01-08 04:17 PM   #12 
  - Gee, maybe she wasn't told about WIC either.  OmelasExpat   Dec-01-08 04:27 PM   #16 
  - That's a good question  gollygee   Dec-01-08 04:44 PM   #29 
  - I wonder why she wasn't told about WIC. Would you assume WIC existed if you didn't know?  OmelasExpat   Dec-01-08 04:55 PM   #35 
     - Very few people know about WIC?  gollygee   Dec-01-08 04:57 PM   #36 
     - Glad your hospital took that responsibility. Mine didn't.  OmelasExpat   Dec-01-08 05:06 PM   #43 
     - Because knee-jerk blaming is soooo "progressive"  bobbolink   Dec-01-08 05:04 PM   #41 
        - Wondering what the situation is isn't "knee-jerk blaming"  gollygee   Dec-01-08 05:09 PM   #46 
        - So, go ahead and judge. It obviously makes you feel good.  bobbolink   Dec-01-08 06:19 PM   #64 
           - I'm not judging  gollygee   Dec-01-08 06:23 PM   #68 
              - .  bobbolink   Dec-01-08 06:27 PM   #73 
        - Seems to be a trend  gaspee   Dec-01-08 06:04 PM   #58 
           - Because social darwinism has crept into the left.  undergroundpanther   Dec-02-08 02:06 AM   #122 
  - There is no excuse  boozepusher   Dec-01-08 04:45 PM   #30 
  - "Help is available, you just have to look for it."  OmelasExpat   Dec-01-08 05:03 PM   #40 
  - You may be right.  boozepusher   Dec-01-08 05:19 PM   #48 
     - Well, since we're pushing outdated gender roles, howabout we blame  Cerridwen   Dec-01-08 06:58 PM   #85 
     - Did you even read my post?  boozepusher   Dec-01-08 07:28 PM   #98 
        - Of course I did. It didn't even dawn on you to berate the father until  Cerridwen   Dec-01-08 07:35 PM   #101 
           - The OP stated that the financial crisis  boozepusher   Dec-01-08 07:45 PM   #103 
              - The OP was pointing out that the current financial climate was  Cerridwen   Dec-01-08 08:00 PM   #106 
                 - That's not what the OP said.  boozepusher   Dec-01-08 08:13 PM   #107 
                 - Part of the crisis they helped create is lack of funding for social  Cerridwen   Dec-01-08 08:19 PM   #109 
                 - We all have to make choices everyday  boozepusher   Dec-01-08 08:16 PM   #108 
                    - She made the choice to do something that had worked before.  Cerridwen   Dec-01-08 08:27 PM   #111 
                    - What's a boozepusher? n/t  Mushroom   Dec-01-08 09:47 PM   #116 
                       - I own a liquor store.  boozepusher   Dec-01-08 10:20 PM   #118 
     - She was getting help. Apparently it wasn't enough.  Crunchy Frog   Dec-01-08 07:03 PM   #90 
  - Oh come on now....  Dorian Gray   Dec-02-08 07:20 AM   #130 
  - She did get WIC. She says it wasn't enough.  quantessd   Dec-03-08 11:25 AM   #171 
  - Great point - which is why time to pump really ought to be  JerseygirlCT   Dec-03-08 07:16 AM   #162 
     - pumping is not always successful  MrsMatt   Dec-03-08 02:34 PM   #176 
        - It's funny  JerseygirlCT   Dec-03-08 02:42 PM   #177 
  - Why do we need to be so mean?  FitzmasAgain   Dec-01-08 04:30 PM   #20 
  - Ignorance causes meanness  Tempest   Dec-01-08 04:34 PM   #23 
  - WIC does not provide all the formula an infant needs...  youthere   Dec-01-08 05:16 PM   #47 
     - Glad someone pointed this out  BamaGirl   Dec-01-08 05:40 PM   #52 
  - Like me  Dorian Gray   Dec-02-08 07:23 AM   #131 
  - State WIC programs are getting cut to the bone  Tempest   Dec-01-08 04:33 PM   # 
  - I am on WIC and so is my SIL  HereKittyKitty   Dec-01-08 08:32 PM   #113 
  - Not if the mother can't produce enough milk, and I've worked with  Ilsa   Dec-01-08 08:36 PM   #115 
  - Appearently she already went through WIC  JonLP24   Dec-03-08 03:29 AM   #153 
  - what on earth is WIC?????????  LSK   Dec-03-08 02:47 PM   #178 
  - This has been going on all over the world for many years now.  WHEN CRABS ROAR   Dec-01-08 04:30 PM   #19 
  - I remember my ex-wife getting involved in an anti-Nestle campaign back in the early '90s  slackmaster   Dec-01-08 04:33 PM   #22 
  - That's correct. Hmm I wonder why we're still here after millions of  WHEN CRABS ROAR   Dec-01-08 04:38 PM   #25 
  - Exactly. See my post below  BrklynLiberal   Dec-01-08 05:03 PM   #39 
  - Yep. nt  anonymous171   Dec-03-08 01:55 PM   #174 
  - I saw something sad in Allentown this week...  Davis_X_Machina   Dec-01-08 04:41 PM   #27 
  - That is really sad.  quantessd   Dec-01-08 04:55 PM   #34 
  - must have been a loss issue or it wouldn't be locked  proud patriot   Dec-01-08 05:25 PM   #49 
  - I've done that before too, and scam or not I was okay with it.  tnlefty   Dec-01-08 07:30 PM   #99 
  - I've done that before too, and scam or not I was okay with it.  tnlefty   Dec-01-08 07:30 PM   #100 
  - I was told by a local Walgreens and have read that  nocaster   Dec-02-08 09:36 AM   #137 
  - Nestle's is a huge marketer of baby formula. There have been reports for years  BrklynLiberal   Dec-01-08 04:50 PM   #32 
  - I confess to ignorance  Generic Other   Dec-01-08 05:05 PM   #42 
  - Wow I never heard of such a thing.  pending   Dec-01-08 05:29 PM   #50 
  - Additional information at link (with snippet) below  Cerridwen   Dec-01-08 05:40 PM   #51 
  - thanks for posting this  gaspee   Dec-01-08 06:07 PM   #60 
  - You and me both!  Sonicmedusa   Dec-01-08 06:16 PM   #62 
  - You're welcome.  Cerridwen   Dec-01-08 06:22 PM   #66 
  - Florida must be a cheapskate state  SoCalDem   Dec-01-08 06:45 PM   #81 
  - Apparently.  Cerridwen   Dec-01-08 06:50 PM   #82 
  - In OK, it's 10 cans  HereKittyKitty   Dec-01-08 08:35 PM   #114 
  - So she actually was on WIC.  Crunchy Frog   Dec-01-08 07:00 PM   #89 
  - Yes. It wasn't enough. She's going to school. They aren't making  Cerridwen   Dec-01-08 07:12 PM   #94 
  - Might as well just let this board become Free Republic lite.  Crunchy Frog   Dec-01-08 07:21 PM   #96 
  - The judgementalism always cuts both ways when a poorly written article is cited  slackmaster   Dec-02-08 12:17 PM   #146 
  - Thanks very much for the information, it's very helpful in understanding the situation  slackmaster   Dec-02-08 12:15 PM   #145 
     - "...shirked their journalistic duty." Ain't it the truth? It happens more  Cerridwen   Dec-02-08 12:55 PM   #147 
  - Not stupid  mbergen   Dec-01-08 06:03 PM   #56 
  - I actually find that hard to believe.  Crunchy Frog   Dec-01-08 07:10 PM   #93 
     - Not to mention the warnings on the can.  nocaster   Dec-02-08 09:40 AM   #138 
  - As a first time pregnant mother to be, this really scares me.  Tight_rope   Dec-01-08 06:34 PM   #77 
  - See post #51  Cerridwen   Dec-01-08 06:37 PM   #78 
  - Read through the thread  gollygee   Dec-01-08 06:38 PM   #79 
  - The baby was also sick from "getting skinny."  Ms. Toad   Dec-03-08 02:55 AM   #149 
     - edited  JonLP24   Dec-03-08 04:08 AM   #154 
     - Her intent was to replace some portion of the food  Ms. Toad   Dec-03-08 07:49 AM   #167 
     - I saw the picture eventually and yes he did look skinny  gollygee   Dec-03-08 02:49 PM   #180 
  - Get off your fucking high horse and check back with us  Sonicmedusa   Dec-01-08 06:44 PM   #80 
  - I am a mother  Pastiche423   Dec-01-08 10:17 PM   #117 
  - THIS IS COMMON IN THIRD-WORLD NATIONS. Really. Only in those cases, the water is also dirty...  Hekate   Dec-01-08 06:51 PM   #83 
  - Wow I am surprised at how harsh many people are towards this  MadMaddie   Dec-01-08 06:56 PM   #84 
  - The article in post #51 explains more  gollygee   Dec-01-08 06:59 PM   #87 
  - Mom's in college - ironically in a medical field.  Ms. Toad   Dec-03-08 02:57 AM   #150 
  - Cost Of Formula, 1% Of Blame. Her Sheer Stupidity, 99%.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Dec-01-08 06:58 PM   #86 
  - Oh gee. A woman to blame who isn't Hillary - and there you are.  Cerridwen   Dec-01-08 07:04 PM   #91 
  - You are reading things that aren't there!  quantessd   Dec-01-08 07:42 PM   #102 
     - I'm seeing a years long pattern of posts. This is just one more in  Cerridwen   Dec-01-08 07:53 PM   #105 
     - Oh come on the guy is a jerk, it is pretty easy to read that..  bahrbearian   Dec-03-08 01:37 AM   #148 
  - Breastfeeding isn't all that easy to get going always  gollygee   Dec-01-08 07:07 PM   #92 
  - It isn't that easy. All the higher-order mammals need instruction from older females, I've read...  Hekate   Dec-02-08 12:59 AM   #119 
  - That's not always an option.  LeftyMom   Dec-02-08 01:11 AM   #120 
  - You think you know more than you do about breastfeeding.  lostnfound   Dec-02-08 04:34 AM   #125 
  - Actually, the kid was ALSO starving.  Ms. Toad   Dec-03-08 03:00 AM   #151 
     - To my eyes, neither baby nor mom look like a *picture of health*.  quantessd   Dec-03-08 11:20 AM   #170 
        - I agree.  Ms. Toad   Dec-03-08 01:48 PM   #172 
  - Ugh! Do you ever post anything that doesn't make you sound like an asshole?  Raineyb   Dec-02-08 11:02 AM   #141 
     - No, wait, don't tell me. That was OPERATIONMINDCRIME, right?  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Dec-03-08 08:03 AM   #169 
  - I fail to understand how pro-lifers caused this, can you elaborate. n/t  MiltonF   Dec-01-08 07:00 PM   #88 
  - In our political system, the "pro-lifers"  Crunchy Frog   Dec-01-08 07:19 PM   #95 
     - You're right - once it's out of the womb and no longer a fetus, the "pro-life" crowd doesn't give a  kath   Dec-01-08 08:22 PM   #110 
        - Women  undergroundpanther   Dec-02-08 02:29 AM   #124 
           - Great post. Better suited as an OP on a new thread, really.  quantessd   Dec-03-08 03:04 PM   #181 
  - Diluted evaporated milk & Kayo syrup and vit. supplements worked for my family  nc4bo   Dec-01-08 07:52 PM   #104 
  - Alot of babies don't tolerate cows' milk protein. That is why so many are  Ilsa   Dec-01-08 08:31 PM   #112 
  - Cows' milk protiens have to be broken down for a baby to digest them.  LeftyMom   Dec-02-08 01:16 AM   #121 
  - So if that woman is that poor, that destitute and unable to get government assistance, she should  nc4bo   Dec-02-08 06:37 AM   #126 
  - Social problems  undergroundpanther   Dec-02-08 02:22 AM   #123 
  - I missed the "pro-lifers" connection.  nathan hale   Dec-02-08 06:49 AM   #127 
  - That's terrible  Dorian Gray   Dec-02-08 07:06 AM   #128 
  - I read this as mainly a "good news" story, and it can also serve as a warning  slackmaster   Dec-02-08 08:53 AM   #133 
     - The underlying problem is not addressed: WIC program is underfunded  Lars39   Dec-02-08 08:56 AM   #134 
        - I haven't read all the replies or searched for other news coverage, but the OP is not clear at all  slackmaster   Dec-02-08 08:59 AM   #135 
           - Post #51 has links to additional reports with additional information n/t  Cerridwen   Dec-02-08 11:12 AM   #143 
  - What's especially worse about this story is that the mother had a difficult time procuring formula..  Earth_First   Dec-02-08 09:23 AM   #136 
  - I find this story interesting - and rather scary,  Ms. Toad   Dec-03-08 03:21 AM   #152 
  - I nursed my boys and they HATED water from a bottle  SoCalDem   Dec-03-08 05:40 AM   #156 
     - I did not intend to give any supplemental feeding  Ms. Toad   Dec-03-08 07:40 AM   #165 
  - I'm so glad that the baby is okay.  moriah   Dec-03-08 04:28 AM   #155 
  - Best response to this thread  Stuckinthebush   Dec-03-08 07:47 AM   #166 
  - 4 scoops to 6 ozs vs. 6 scoops to 8 ozs can kill a baby?  dkf   Dec-03-08 06:25 AM   #157 
  - Apparently many in the medical community don't know  Ms. Toad   Dec-03-08 01:52 PM   #173 
  - What a sad story. I saw it on the news and the mother doesn't  Vinca   Dec-03-08 06:29 AM   #158 
  - I was told of the dangers of giviing water  CatsDogsBabies   Dec-03-08 07:00 AM   #159 
  - They don't -  Ms. Toad   Dec-03-08 02:01 PM   #175 
  - I didn't hear about it from the pediatrician or the hospital  gollygee   Dec-03-08 02:48 PM   #179 
  - WHY aren't more new mothers given the encouragement they need  JerseygirlCT   Dec-03-08 07:14 AM   #160 

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