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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 04:19 PM
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31. It's amazing--In that video *several* people are knocked to the ground,
but the crowd just keeps pouring in over them. It's amazing that this is the first time someone has been trampled to death.
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  -About That Wal-Mart Worker Who Was Trampled To Death -- That Could Have Been Me Magic Rat  Nov-28-08 02:42 PM   #0 
  - Heres a link to photos from the stampede  DJ13   Nov-28-08 02:45 PM   #1 
  - They should install turnstiles - so that only one person goes in at a time.  tabatha   Nov-28-08 02:51 PM   #2 
  - that would be even worse  Magic Rat   Nov-28-08 02:58 PM   #8 
  - that would defeat the purpose, which is to lure folks into the store.  soothsayer   Nov-28-08 03:13 PM   #19 
  - In addition to the roped off sections, hire off duty policemen to  usnret88   Nov-28-08 05:26 PM   #33 
  - Severely under-stocking advertised items with a very low price makes them liable.  Radical Activist   Nov-28-08 09:43 PM   #56 
     - and isn't it just to get them to come back on later days?  progdonkey   Nov-29-08 10:19 PM   #119 
        - No.  AllHereTruth   Nov-30-08 05:11 AM   #123 
           - yeah, I guess that would kill the whole stampede mentality...  progdonkey   Nov-30-08 09:33 AM   #126 
              - Eh.  AllHereTruth   Dec-01-08 05:35 PM   #128 
  - Oh, hell no. Multiply today by a hundred if that were to happen. nt  blondeatlast   Nov-28-08 09:30 PM   #51 
  - 'Blitz Line Starts Here'  TomInTib   Nov-28-08 02:52 PM   #5 
     - that made me sick to my stomach  DeepBlueDem   Nov-28-08 09:49 PM   #57 
     - That shit tells you  DoctorMyEyes   Nov-29-08 08:56 AM   #90 
        - and it's not like Wal-Mart doesn't have experience with this. it happens every year. negligent.  nashville_brook   Nov-29-08 01:30 PM   #108 
           - it's not negligence if they want it to happen...  progdonkey   Nov-29-08 10:23 PM   #120 
              - good point. negligent is the word that i most associate with business being liable for injury.  nashville_brook   Nov-30-08 09:42 AM   #127 
  - We also stocked like that for "sales" at Circuit City  DireStrike   Nov-28-08 02:51 PM   #3 
  - Hell, I worked at one of the premier tony dept stores in Phoenix  blondeatlast   Nov-28-08 08:21 PM   #41 
  - Yep. It's called "bait and switch"  clear eye   Nov-29-08 09:08 AM   #91 
  - here's video from one in 2007  phusion   Nov-28-08 02:52 PM   #4 
  - That woman flipped her wig. n/t  greguganus   Nov-28-08 02:59 PM   #9 
  - It's amazing--In that video *several* people are knocked to the ground,  tblue37   Nov-28-08 04:19 PM   #31 
  - That video is proof Mall-Wart knew perfectly well a tragedy like today's could happen  brentspeak   Nov-28-08 05:39 PM   #35 
  - yes, yes it is.  cryingshame   Nov-28-08 09:06 PM   #45 
  - check out wakeupwalmart.com  orleans   Nov-29-08 01:39 AM   #82 
     - and remember this?  orleans   Nov-29-08 01:42 AM   #83 
  - I can easily see this happening  Giant Robot   Nov-28-08 02:53 PM   #6 
  - materialistic, greedy asshole consumers are to blame too  Skittles   Nov-28-08 02:55 PM   #7 
  - I don't disagree  Magic Rat   Nov-28-08 02:59 PM   #10 
  - It's not "inability". It's refusal.  clear eye   Nov-29-08 09:21 AM   #92 
  - Desperate for a bargain. F*ck holidays that require gift-giving, too.  Blue in Portland   Nov-28-08 03:04 PM   #12 
     - That's the hypocrisy of what's become of the 'Holiday Season' in the U.S.  bulloney   Nov-29-08 10:00 AM   #97 
  - I'm sorry that's not true, I worked for Menard's same scenario, in fact when I showed  madmom   Nov-28-08 03:03 PM   #11 
  - absolutely  Magic Rat   Nov-28-08 03:06 PM   #13 
  - and like I said the same thing happened at Menard's.  madmom   Nov-28-08 03:08 PM   #14 
  - Have you seen the photos?  yourguide   Nov-28-08 03:12 PM   #18 
     - Were you there at Menard"s? I stand by what I said the SAME thing happened there!  madmom   Nov-28-08 03:19 PM   #22 
        - Yes and Menards would have been LIABLE  yourguide   Nov-28-08 03:27 PM   #24 
           - The way you have it in your initial post is that Wal-mart is the only one who doesn't have  madmom   Nov-28-08 03:36 PM   #26 
              - No, please see MY other posts.  yourguide   Nov-28-08 03:40 PM   #27 
                 - You're right, I'm sorry wrong poster!  madmom   Nov-28-08 03:46 PM   #28 
  - Sorry, MR, but it's worse than that.  clear eye   Nov-29-08 09:28 AM   #93 
  - Yup and it's been happening for decades. I worked at 2 very tony stores here  blondeatlast   Nov-28-08 08:23 PM   #42 
  - k+r, n/t  ColbertWatcher   Nov-28-08 03:08 PM   #15 
  - Word is that they broke down the doors  malaise   Nov-28-08 03:09 PM   #16 
  - I'm glad you're safe and sound. I however, think New Yorkers are partially to blame.  cherokeeprogressive   Nov-28-08 03:12 PM   #17 
  - I beg your pardon  Gorobei   Nov-29-08 03:38 AM   #88 
     - You are correct, NOT just New Yorkers  classicfilmfan   Nov-29-08 10:59 AM   #101 
  - Walmart is no doubt guilty. Of something. Inciting a riot? Maybe.  gristy   Nov-28-08 03:15 PM   #20 
  - Don't just hope. Lobby your state legislators.  clear eye   Nov-29-08 09:41 AM   #94 
  - Sometimes you can't help people swarming on certain days of the year, but  Cleita   Nov-28-08 03:15 PM   #21 
  - That's why you'll never catch me shopping at one of these Black Friday frenzies  MadHound   Nov-28-08 03:20 PM   #23 
  - I feel the same way,  Rhiannon12866   Nov-29-08 12:00 AM   #65 
  - Good for you for coming forward with your experience and truth....  rvablue   Nov-28-08 03:35 PM   #25 
  - Consumerism is a mental illness.  Odin2005   Nov-28-08 03:50 PM   #29 
  - Today I'm ashamed of myself for being a member of the human race. n/t  lamp_shade   Nov-28-08 03:52 PM   #30 
  - I hope every customer is also charged with murder.  AZBlue   Nov-28-08 05:19 PM   #32 
  - Which ones?  Mark Baker   Nov-30-08 06:01 AM   #124 
  - The fault is with the shoppers who pushed and trampled, as opposed to anyone else.  ZombieHorde   Nov-28-08 05:32 PM   #34 
  - I disagree. There are laws requiring businesses to provide safe environments.  yardwork   Nov-28-08 09:29 PM   #50 
     - "the people at the front are forced through barriers and pushed"  ZombieHorde   Nov-29-08 01:52 PM   #110 
     - I remember the deaths at the Who concert in 1979. That's when I learned about the physics of crowds  yardwork   Nov-29-08 02:16 PM   #111 
        - "It's not like the people at the back are deliberately causing trouble"  ZombieHorde   Nov-29-08 05:26 PM   #116 
     - You are right I was stuck between 2 open doors at the Who concert before the deadly one..  rosebud57   Nov-29-08 08:29 PM   #118 
  - I did think of you when I read about the incident, Magic Rat.  Lars39   Nov-28-08 05:51 PM   #36 
  - I'm not sure what to think  Chulanowa   Nov-28-08 05:57 PM   #37 
  - The official word from Wal-Mart was that this guy was just a temp who  BrklynLiberal   Nov-28-08 06:27 PM   #38 
  - is that how they escape responsibility for their workers? Just make sure they're part time and  cryingshame   Nov-28-08 09:10 PM   #46 
  - That is how they try...I hope it does not work this time.  BrklynLiberal   Nov-28-08 09:26 PM   #48 
  - No doubt, plus it makes for a convenient dodge to the "improperly trained" issue.  blondeatlast   Nov-28-08 09:33 PM   #53 
     - IMO, Walmart will be liable regardless of who that person did or did not work for.  cryingshame   Nov-28-08 09:38 PM   #54 
  - I don't see how that would absolve them from responsibility.  Incitatus   Nov-28-08 09:38 PM   #55 
  - Thank you for sharing your insight into this...  ljm2002   Nov-28-08 06:35 PM   #39 
  - Thank you MagicRat. Why was Wal-Mart so quick to announce this  whutgives   Nov-28-08 07:10 PM   #40 
  - because it absolves them of being legally responsible....  unapatriciated   Nov-28-08 10:15 PM   #60 
     - I don't think this will apply here. The worker is not the one accused  lizzy   Nov-29-08 09:50 AM   #96 
        - no but in my daughters case her company was first named because....  unapatriciated   Nov-29-08 12:59 PM   #106 
  - Wait until it's a few loaves of bread. My sympathy to the young man's family. n/t  vickiss   Nov-28-08 08:51 PM   #43 
  - Hey Magic Rat, that young fellow doesn't have to have died in vain. I'm out on eastern L.I.  cryingshame   Nov-28-08 08:55 PM   #44 
  - Thank you for telling your story here. I suspected exactly this scenario.  yardwork   Nov-28-08 09:16 PM   #47 
  - Thank you.  genevat   Nov-28-08 09:28 PM   #49 
  - Wal Mart is to blame  Ex Lurker   Nov-28-08 09:31 PM   #52 
  - Seriously, didn't one person see the employee  BreatheOnMe   Nov-28-08 09:58 PM   #58 
  - KandR. Thank you, Magic Rat  Dystopian   Nov-28-08 10:00 PM   #59 
  - Wow! Look at the size of that crowd !  Mind_your_head   Nov-28-08 10:21 PM   #61 
  - In this instance capitalism kills. Crap, how terribly wrong.  bluesmail   Nov-28-08 10:24 PM   #62 
  - I don't miss retail one bit.  Finnfan   Nov-28-08 10:26 PM   #63 
  - As someone who only heard of "black friday" a few days ago  quakerboy   Nov-28-08 11:13 PM   #64 
  - Walmart is certainly to blame, but...  davidthegnome   Nov-29-08 12:09 AM   #66 
  - have you ever been in a crowd that's shoving you from behind?  Magic Rat   Nov-29-08 12:15 AM   #67 
  - No. I'm not Superman  davidthegnome   Nov-29-08 12:28 AM   #68 
  - when you advertise a first-come first-serve special sale  Magic Rat   Nov-29-08 12:37 AM   #70 
     - Maybe you're right and my initial shock at this  davidthegnome   Nov-29-08 12:43 AM   #72 
  - I mean no offense  davidthegnome   Nov-29-08 12:33 AM   #69 
  - have you ever waited in line on black friday?  Magic Rat   Nov-29-08 12:40 AM   #71 
     - No  davidthegnome   Nov-29-08 12:45 AM   #73 
     - I hate Wal Mart, but these imbeciles that waited in line  hogwyld   Dec-01-08 07:05 PM   #129 
  - Very true.  lizzy   Nov-29-08 01:15 AM   #75 
  - Agreed.  Tilion   Nov-29-08 01:19 AM   #77 
  - This is an occupational health and safety issue!  sfnative   Nov-29-08 01:11 AM   #74 
  - Our Wal-Mart didn't close and they had way more than enough things for everyone.  Tilion   Nov-29-08 01:18 AM   #76 
  - are you near a "super" walmart  Magic Rat   Nov-29-08 01:23 AM   #78 
     - Yeah, it's a Super Walmart.  Tilion   Nov-29-08 02:05 AM   #85 
  - What they should do is advertise that there are 2 or 6 or whatever  SoCalDem   Nov-29-08 01:31 AM   #79 
  - But the desired end is *precisely* to get a lot of frenzied, tension-filled  Hannah Bell   Nov-29-08 01:44 AM   #84 
     - very good  Two Americas   Nov-29-08 02:13 AM   #87 
  - We don't have a fucking Wal-Mart in this area - there is one about 3 hours away....  GreenTea   Nov-29-08 01:37 AM   #80 
  - Could've been me too. Thank gosh I sleep in and don't care about buying crap  Gwendolyn   Nov-29-08 01:38 AM   #81 
  - i'm glad you're going to try and talk to whoever the attorney is.  orleans   Nov-29-08 02:06 AM   #86 
  - The only solution is to ban Black Friday completely  jmowreader   Nov-29-08 04:59 AM   #89 
  - The whole thing is sick, thus the name "door busters"  Geek_Girl   Nov-29-08 09:50 AM   #95 
  - I remember the great Furby stampede of 1998.  ByTheRiver   Nov-29-08 10:02 AM   #98 
  - Another disturbing story in the annals of...  Orwellian_Ghost   Nov-29-08 10:07 AM   #99 
  - Thank you, Magic Rat. Here's how another store handled this.  Kajsa   Nov-29-08 10:31 AM   #100 
  - Funny, I went shopping in a few locally-owned shops...  bobshin   Nov-29-08 11:18 AM   #102 
  - Welcome to DU,Bobshin!  Kajsa   Nov-29-08 12:13 PM   #105 
  - it is no different than yelling 'fire' in a crowded movie theater  ksimons   Nov-29-08 11:19 AM   #103 
  - No it's not.  Dappleganger   Nov-29-08 03:54 PM   #114 
  - Wal-Mart death  Iodine99   Nov-29-08 11:54 AM   #104 
  - Why is it called "Black Friday?"  ailsagirl   Nov-29-08 01:01 PM   #107 
  - It's the traditional day that the retailers go from being in the red  Midlodemocrat   Nov-29-08 02:22 PM   #113 
     - Ah... black as in "not in the red"-- thanks  ailsagirl   Nov-29-08 06:21 PM   #117 
  - I hope they prosecute the nuts who....  Zombie2   Nov-29-08 01:51 PM   #109 
  - They did that last year on "Chuck"  AnnieBW   Nov-29-08 02:21 PM   #112 
  - They had to pass laws against General seating for concerts after what happened in Ohio  WakeMeUp   Nov-29-08 04:30 PM   #115 
  - Feck Black Friday!  mackerel   Nov-30-08 12:47 AM   #121 
  - Kick! nt  thecatburgler   Nov-30-08 03:35 AM   #122 
  - ...  Mari333   Nov-30-08 06:11 AM   #125 
 

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