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Fri Nov-28-08 03:50 PM
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| 29. Consumerism is a mental illness. |
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I avoid shopping like the plague for the week before and after "Black Friday," too many consumerist twits going around silently screaming "I WANT, I WANT, I WANT!!!" and have a look on their eyes thast reminds me of lustful teenagers.
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| -About That Wal-Mart Worker Who Was Trampled To Death -- That Could Have Been Me |
Magic Rat |
Nov-28-08 02:42 PM |
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Heres a link to photos from the stampede |
DJ13 |
Nov-28-08 02:45 PM |
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They should install turnstiles - so that only one person goes in at a time. |
tabatha |
Nov-28-08 02:51 PM |
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that would be even worse |
Magic Rat |
Nov-28-08 02:58 PM |
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that would defeat the purpose, which is to lure folks into the store. |
soothsayer |
Nov-28-08 03:13 PM |
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In addition to the roped off sections, hire off duty policemen to |
usnret88 |
Nov-28-08 05:26 PM |
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Severely under-stocking advertised items with a very low price makes them liable. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-28-08 09:43 PM |
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and isn't it just to get them to come back on later days? |
progdonkey |
Nov-29-08 10:19 PM |
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No. |
AllHereTruth |
Nov-30-08 05:11 AM |
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yeah, I guess that would kill the whole stampede mentality... |
progdonkey |
Nov-30-08 09:33 AM |
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Eh. |
AllHereTruth |
Dec-01-08 05:35 PM |
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Oh, hell no. Multiply today by a hundred if that were to happen. nt |
blondeatlast |
Nov-28-08 09:30 PM |
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'Blitz Line Starts Here' |
TomInTib |
Nov-28-08 02:52 PM |
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that made me sick to my stomach |
DeepBlueDem |
Nov-28-08 09:49 PM |
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That shit tells you |
DoctorMyEyes |
Nov-29-08 08:56 AM |
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and it's not like Wal-Mart doesn't have experience with this. it happens every year. negligent. |
nashville_brook |
Nov-29-08 01:30 PM |
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it's not negligence if they want it to happen... |
progdonkey |
Nov-29-08 10:23 PM |
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good point. negligent is the word that i most associate with business being liable for injury. |
nashville_brook |
Nov-30-08 09:42 AM |
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We also stocked like that for "sales" at Circuit City |
DireStrike |
Nov-28-08 02:51 PM |
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Hell, I worked at one of the premier tony dept stores in Phoenix |
blondeatlast |
Nov-28-08 08:21 PM |
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Yep. It's called "bait and switch" |
clear eye |
Nov-29-08 09:08 AM |
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here's video from one in 2007 |
phusion |
Nov-28-08 02:52 PM |
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That woman flipped her wig. n/t |
greguganus |
Nov-28-08 02:59 PM |
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It's amazing--In that video *several* people are knocked to the ground, |
tblue37 |
Nov-28-08 04:19 PM |
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That video is proof Mall-Wart knew perfectly well a tragedy like today's could happen |
brentspeak |
Nov-28-08 05:39 PM |
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yes, yes it is. |
cryingshame |
Nov-28-08 09:06 PM |
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check out wakeupwalmart.com |
orleans |
Nov-29-08 01:39 AM |
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and remember this? |
orleans |
Nov-29-08 01:42 AM |
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I can easily see this happening |
Giant Robot |
Nov-28-08 02:53 PM |
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materialistic, greedy asshole consumers are to blame too |
Skittles |
Nov-28-08 02:55 PM |
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I don't disagree |
Magic Rat |
Nov-28-08 02:59 PM |
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It's not "inability". It's refusal. |
clear eye |
Nov-29-08 09:21 AM |
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Desperate for a bargain. F*ck holidays that require gift-giving, too. |
Blue in Portland |
Nov-28-08 03:04 PM |
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That's the hypocrisy of what's become of the 'Holiday Season' in the U.S. |
bulloney |
Nov-29-08 10:00 AM |
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I'm sorry that's not true, I worked for Menard's same scenario, in fact when I showed |
madmom |
Nov-28-08 03:03 PM |
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absolutely |
Magic Rat |
Nov-28-08 03:06 PM |
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and like I said the same thing happened at Menard's. |
madmom |
Nov-28-08 03:08 PM |
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Have you seen the photos? |
yourguide |
Nov-28-08 03:12 PM |
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Were you there at Menard"s? I stand by what I said the SAME thing happened there! |
madmom |
Nov-28-08 03:19 PM |
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Yes and Menards would have been LIABLE |
yourguide |
Nov-28-08 03:27 PM |
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The way you have it in your initial post is that Wal-mart is the only one who doesn't have |
madmom |
Nov-28-08 03:36 PM |
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No, please see MY other posts. |
yourguide |
Nov-28-08 03:40 PM |
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You're right, I'm sorry wrong poster! |
madmom |
Nov-28-08 03:46 PM |
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Sorry, MR, but it's worse than that. |
clear eye |
Nov-29-08 09:28 AM |
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Yup and it's been happening for decades. I worked at 2 very tony stores here |
blondeatlast |
Nov-28-08 08:23 PM |
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k+r, n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
Nov-28-08 03:08 PM |
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Word is that they broke down the doors |
malaise |
Nov-28-08 03:09 PM |
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I'm glad you're safe and sound. I however, think New Yorkers are partially to blame. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Nov-28-08 03:12 PM |
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I beg your pardon |
Gorobei |
Nov-29-08 03:38 AM |
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You are correct, NOT just New Yorkers |
classicfilmfan |
Nov-29-08 10:59 AM |
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Walmart is no doubt guilty. Of something. Inciting a riot? Maybe. |
gristy |
Nov-28-08 03:15 PM |
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Don't just hope. Lobby your state legislators. |
clear eye |
Nov-29-08 09:41 AM |
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Sometimes you can't help people swarming on certain days of the year, but |
Cleita |
Nov-28-08 03:15 PM |
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That's why you'll never catch me shopping at one of these Black Friday frenzies |
MadHound |
Nov-28-08 03:20 PM |
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I feel the same way, |
Rhiannon12866 |
Nov-29-08 12:00 AM |
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Good for you for coming forward with your experience and truth.... |
rvablue |
Nov-28-08 03:35 PM |
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Consumerism is a mental illness. |
Odin2005 |
Nov-28-08 03:50 PM |
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Today I'm ashamed of myself for being a member of the human race. n/t |
lamp_shade |
Nov-28-08 03:52 PM |
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I hope every customer is also charged with murder. |
AZBlue |
Nov-28-08 05:19 PM |
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Which ones? |
Mark Baker |
Nov-30-08 06:01 AM |
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The fault is with the shoppers who pushed and trampled, as opposed to anyone else. |
ZombieHorde |
Nov-28-08 05:32 PM |
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I disagree. There are laws requiring businesses to provide safe environments. |
yardwork |
Nov-28-08 09:29 PM |
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"the people at the front are forced through barriers and pushed" |
ZombieHorde |
Nov-29-08 01:52 PM |
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I remember the deaths at the Who concert in 1979. That's when I learned about the physics of crowds |
yardwork |
Nov-29-08 02:16 PM |
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"It's not like the people at the back are deliberately causing trouble" |
ZombieHorde |
Nov-29-08 05:26 PM |
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You are right I was stuck between 2 open doors at the Who concert before the deadly one.. |
rosebud57 |
Nov-29-08 08:29 PM |
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I did think of you when I read about the incident, Magic Rat. |
Lars39 |
Nov-28-08 05:51 PM |
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I'm not sure what to think |
Chulanowa |
Nov-28-08 05:57 PM |
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The official word from Wal-Mart was that this guy was just a temp who |
BrklynLiberal |
Nov-28-08 06:27 PM |
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is that how they escape responsibility for their workers? Just make sure they're part time and |
cryingshame |
Nov-28-08 09:10 PM |
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That is how they try...I hope it does not work this time. |
BrklynLiberal |
Nov-28-08 09:26 PM |
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No doubt, plus it makes for a convenient dodge to the "improperly trained" issue. |
blondeatlast |
Nov-28-08 09:33 PM |
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IMO, Walmart will be liable regardless of who that person did or did not work for. |
cryingshame |
Nov-28-08 09:38 PM |
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I don't see how that would absolve them from responsibility. |
Incitatus |
Nov-28-08 09:38 PM |
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Thank you for sharing your insight into this... |
ljm2002 |
Nov-28-08 06:35 PM |
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Thank you MagicRat. Why was Wal-Mart so quick to announce this |
whutgives |
Nov-28-08 07:10 PM |
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because it absolves them of being legally responsible.... |
unapatriciated |
Nov-28-08 10:15 PM |
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I don't think this will apply here. The worker is not the one accused |
lizzy |
Nov-29-08 09:50 AM |
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no but in my daughters case her company was first named because.... |
unapatriciated |
Nov-29-08 12:59 PM |
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Wait until it's a few loaves of bread. My sympathy to the young man's family. n/t |
vickiss |
Nov-28-08 08:51 PM |
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Hey Magic Rat, that young fellow doesn't have to have died in vain. I'm out on eastern L.I. |
cryingshame |
Nov-28-08 08:55 PM |
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Thank you for telling your story here. I suspected exactly this scenario. |
yardwork |
Nov-28-08 09:16 PM |
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Thank you. |
genevat |
Nov-28-08 09:28 PM |
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Wal Mart is to blame |
Ex Lurker |
Nov-28-08 09:31 PM |
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Seriously, didn't one person see the employee |
BreatheOnMe |
Nov-28-08 09:58 PM |
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KandR. Thank you, Magic Rat |
Dystopian |
Nov-28-08 10:00 PM |
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Wow! Look at the size of that crowd ! |
Mind_your_head |
Nov-28-08 10:21 PM |
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In this instance capitalism kills. Crap, how terribly wrong. |
bluesmail |
Nov-28-08 10:24 PM |
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I don't miss retail one bit. |
Finnfan |
Nov-28-08 10:26 PM |
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As someone who only heard of "black friday" a few days ago |
quakerboy |
Nov-28-08 11:13 PM |
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Walmart is certainly to blame, but... |
davidthegnome |
Nov-29-08 12:09 AM |
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have you ever been in a crowd that's shoving you from behind? |
Magic Rat |
Nov-29-08 12:15 AM |
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No. I'm not Superman |
davidthegnome |
Nov-29-08 12:28 AM |
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when you advertise a first-come first-serve special sale |
Magic Rat |
Nov-29-08 12:37 AM |
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Maybe you're right and my initial shock at this |
davidthegnome |
Nov-29-08 12:43 AM |
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I mean no offense |
davidthegnome |
Nov-29-08 12:33 AM |
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have you ever waited in line on black friday? |
Magic Rat |
Nov-29-08 12:40 AM |
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No |
davidthegnome |
Nov-29-08 12:45 AM |
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I hate Wal Mart, but these imbeciles that waited in line |
hogwyld |
Dec-01-08 07:05 PM |
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Very true. |
lizzy |
Nov-29-08 01:15 AM |
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Agreed. |
Tilion |
Nov-29-08 01:19 AM |
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This is an occupational health and safety issue! |
sfnative |
Nov-29-08 01:11 AM |
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Our Wal-Mart didn't close and they had way more than enough things for everyone. |
Tilion |
Nov-29-08 01:18 AM |
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are you near a "super" walmart |
Magic Rat |
Nov-29-08 01:23 AM |
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Yeah, it's a Super Walmart. |
Tilion |
Nov-29-08 02:05 AM |
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What they should do is advertise that there are 2 or 6 or whatever |
SoCalDem |
Nov-29-08 01:31 AM |
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But the desired end is *precisely* to get a lot of frenzied, tension-filled |
Hannah Bell |
Nov-29-08 01:44 AM |
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very good |
Two Americas |
Nov-29-08 02:13 AM |
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We don't have a fucking Wal-Mart in this area - there is one about 3 hours away.... |
GreenTea |
Nov-29-08 01:37 AM |
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Could've been me too. Thank gosh I sleep in and don't care about buying crap |
Gwendolyn |
Nov-29-08 01:38 AM |
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i'm glad you're going to try and talk to whoever the attorney is. |
orleans |
Nov-29-08 02:06 AM |
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The only solution is to ban Black Friday completely |
jmowreader |
Nov-29-08 04:59 AM |
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The whole thing is sick, thus the name "door busters" |
Geek_Girl |
Nov-29-08 09:50 AM |
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I remember the great Furby stampede of 1998. |
ByTheRiver |
Nov-29-08 10:02 AM |
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Another disturbing story in the annals of... |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Nov-29-08 10:07 AM |
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Thank you, Magic Rat. Here's how another store handled this. |
Kajsa |
Nov-29-08 10:31 AM |
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Funny, I went shopping in a few locally-owned shops... |
bobshin |
Nov-29-08 11:18 AM |
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Welcome to DU,Bobshin! |
Kajsa |
Nov-29-08 12:13 PM |
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it is no different than yelling 'fire' in a crowded movie theater |
ksimons |
Nov-29-08 11:19 AM |
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No it's not. |
Dappleganger |
Nov-29-08 03:54 PM |
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Wal-Mart death |
Iodine99 |
Nov-29-08 11:54 AM |
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Why is it called "Black Friday?" |
ailsagirl |
Nov-29-08 01:01 PM |
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It's the traditional day that the retailers go from being in the red |
Midlodemocrat |
Nov-29-08 02:22 PM |
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Ah... black as in "not in the red"-- thanks |
ailsagirl |
Nov-29-08 06:21 PM |
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I hope they prosecute the nuts who.... |
Zombie2 |
Nov-29-08 01:51 PM |
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They did that last year on "Chuck" |
AnnieBW |
Nov-29-08 02:21 PM |
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They had to pass laws against General seating for concerts after what happened in Ohio |
WakeMeUp |
Nov-29-08 04:30 PM |
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Feck Black Friday! |
mackerel |
Nov-30-08 12:47 AM |
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Kick! nt |
thecatburgler |
Nov-30-08 03:35 AM |
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... |
Mari333 |
Nov-30-08 06:11 AM |
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