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Fri Nov-28-08 03:36 PM
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| 26. The way you have it in your initial post is that Wal-mart is the only one who doesn't have |
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crowd control, security or whatever and I said that was not the case very few have, and the repulsive "tradition" keeps on going on. It's the fault of ALL the retailers who have these "black Friday" events and promote this kind of activity, and that grand old American greed!
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| -About That Wal-Mart Worker Who Was Trampled To Death -- That Could Have Been Me |
Magic Rat |
Nov-28-08 02:42 PM |
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Heres a link to photos from the stampede |
DJ13 |
Nov-28-08 02:45 PM |
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They should install turnstiles - so that only one person goes in at a time. |
tabatha |
Nov-28-08 02:51 PM |
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that would be even worse |
Magic Rat |
Nov-28-08 02:58 PM |
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that would defeat the purpose, which is to lure folks into the store. |
soothsayer |
Nov-28-08 03:13 PM |
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In addition to the roped off sections, hire off duty policemen to |
usnret88 |
Nov-28-08 05:26 PM |
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Severely under-stocking advertised items with a very low price makes them liable. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-28-08 09:43 PM |
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and isn't it just to get them to come back on later days? |
progdonkey |
Nov-29-08 10:19 PM |
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No. |
AllHereTruth |
Nov-30-08 05:11 AM |
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yeah, I guess that would kill the whole stampede mentality... |
progdonkey |
Nov-30-08 09:33 AM |
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Eh. |
AllHereTruth |
Dec-01-08 05:35 PM |
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Oh, hell no. Multiply today by a hundred if that were to happen. nt |
blondeatlast |
Nov-28-08 09:30 PM |
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'Blitz Line Starts Here' |
TomInTib |
Nov-28-08 02:52 PM |
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that made me sick to my stomach |
DeepBlueDem |
Nov-28-08 09:49 PM |
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That shit tells you |
DoctorMyEyes |
Nov-29-08 08:56 AM |
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and it's not like Wal-Mart doesn't have experience with this. it happens every year. negligent. |
nashville_brook |
Nov-29-08 01:30 PM |
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it's not negligence if they want it to happen... |
progdonkey |
Nov-29-08 10:23 PM |
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good point. negligent is the word that i most associate with business being liable for injury. |
nashville_brook |
Nov-30-08 09:42 AM |
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We also stocked like that for "sales" at Circuit City |
DireStrike |
Nov-28-08 02:51 PM |
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Hell, I worked at one of the premier tony dept stores in Phoenix |
blondeatlast |
Nov-28-08 08:21 PM |
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Yep. It's called "bait and switch" |
clear eye |
Nov-29-08 09:08 AM |
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here's video from one in 2007 |
phusion |
Nov-28-08 02:52 PM |
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That woman flipped her wig. n/t |
greguganus |
Nov-28-08 02:59 PM |
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It's amazing--In that video *several* people are knocked to the ground, |
tblue37 |
Nov-28-08 04:19 PM |
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That video is proof Mall-Wart knew perfectly well a tragedy like today's could happen |
brentspeak |
Nov-28-08 05:39 PM |
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yes, yes it is. |
cryingshame |
Nov-28-08 09:06 PM |
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check out wakeupwalmart.com |
orleans |
Nov-29-08 01:39 AM |
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and remember this? |
orleans |
Nov-29-08 01:42 AM |
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I can easily see this happening |
Giant Robot |
Nov-28-08 02:53 PM |
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materialistic, greedy asshole consumers are to blame too |
Skittles |
Nov-28-08 02:55 PM |
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I don't disagree |
Magic Rat |
Nov-28-08 02:59 PM |
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It's not "inability". It's refusal. |
clear eye |
Nov-29-08 09:21 AM |
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Desperate for a bargain. F*ck holidays that require gift-giving, too. |
Blue in Portland |
Nov-28-08 03:04 PM |
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That's the hypocrisy of what's become of the 'Holiday Season' in the U.S. |
bulloney |
Nov-29-08 10:00 AM |
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I'm sorry that's not true, I worked for Menard's same scenario, in fact when I showed |
madmom |
Nov-28-08 03:03 PM |
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absolutely |
Magic Rat |
Nov-28-08 03:06 PM |
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and like I said the same thing happened at Menard's. |
madmom |
Nov-28-08 03:08 PM |
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Have you seen the photos? |
yourguide |
Nov-28-08 03:12 PM |
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Were you there at Menard"s? I stand by what I said the SAME thing happened there! |
madmom |
Nov-28-08 03:19 PM |
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Yes and Menards would have been LIABLE |
yourguide |
Nov-28-08 03:27 PM |
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The way you have it in your initial post is that Wal-mart is the only one who doesn't have |
madmom |
Nov-28-08 03:36 PM |
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No, please see MY other posts. |
yourguide |
Nov-28-08 03:40 PM |
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You're right, I'm sorry wrong poster! |
madmom |
Nov-28-08 03:46 PM |
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Sorry, MR, but it's worse than that. |
clear eye |
Nov-29-08 09:28 AM |
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Yup and it's been happening for decades. I worked at 2 very tony stores here |
blondeatlast |
Nov-28-08 08:23 PM |
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k+r, n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
Nov-28-08 03:08 PM |
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Word is that they broke down the doors |
malaise |
Nov-28-08 03:09 PM |
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I'm glad you're safe and sound. I however, think New Yorkers are partially to blame. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Nov-28-08 03:12 PM |
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I beg your pardon |
Gorobei |
Nov-29-08 03:38 AM |
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You are correct, NOT just New Yorkers |
classicfilmfan |
Nov-29-08 10:59 AM |
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Walmart is no doubt guilty. Of something. Inciting a riot? Maybe. |
gristy |
Nov-28-08 03:15 PM |
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Don't just hope. Lobby your state legislators. |
clear eye |
Nov-29-08 09:41 AM |
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Sometimes you can't help people swarming on certain days of the year, but |
Cleita |
Nov-28-08 03:15 PM |
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That's why you'll never catch me shopping at one of these Black Friday frenzies |
MadHound |
Nov-28-08 03:20 PM |
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I feel the same way, |
Rhiannon12866 |
Nov-29-08 12:00 AM |
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Good for you for coming forward with your experience and truth.... |
rvablue |
Nov-28-08 03:35 PM |
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Consumerism is a mental illness. |
Odin2005 |
Nov-28-08 03:50 PM |
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Today I'm ashamed of myself for being a member of the human race. n/t |
lamp_shade |
Nov-28-08 03:52 PM |
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I hope every customer is also charged with murder. |
AZBlue |
Nov-28-08 05:19 PM |
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Which ones? |
Mark Baker |
Nov-30-08 06:01 AM |
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The fault is with the shoppers who pushed and trampled, as opposed to anyone else. |
ZombieHorde |
Nov-28-08 05:32 PM |
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I disagree. There are laws requiring businesses to provide safe environments. |
yardwork |
Nov-28-08 09:29 PM |
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"the people at the front are forced through barriers and pushed" |
ZombieHorde |
Nov-29-08 01:52 PM |
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I remember the deaths at the Who concert in 1979. That's when I learned about the physics of crowds |
yardwork |
Nov-29-08 02:16 PM |
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"It's not like the people at the back are deliberately causing trouble" |
ZombieHorde |
Nov-29-08 05:26 PM |
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You are right I was stuck between 2 open doors at the Who concert before the deadly one.. |
rosebud57 |
Nov-29-08 08:29 PM |
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I did think of you when I read about the incident, Magic Rat. |
Lars39 |
Nov-28-08 05:51 PM |
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I'm not sure what to think |
Chulanowa |
Nov-28-08 05:57 PM |
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The official word from Wal-Mart was that this guy was just a temp who |
BrklynLiberal |
Nov-28-08 06:27 PM |
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is that how they escape responsibility for their workers? Just make sure they're part time and |
cryingshame |
Nov-28-08 09:10 PM |
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That is how they try...I hope it does not work this time. |
BrklynLiberal |
Nov-28-08 09:26 PM |
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No doubt, plus it makes for a convenient dodge to the "improperly trained" issue. |
blondeatlast |
Nov-28-08 09:33 PM |
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IMO, Walmart will be liable regardless of who that person did or did not work for. |
cryingshame |
Nov-28-08 09:38 PM |
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I don't see how that would absolve them from responsibility. |
Incitatus |
Nov-28-08 09:38 PM |
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Thank you for sharing your insight into this... |
ljm2002 |
Nov-28-08 06:35 PM |
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Thank you MagicRat. Why was Wal-Mart so quick to announce this |
whutgives |
Nov-28-08 07:10 PM |
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because it absolves them of being legally responsible.... |
unapatriciated |
Nov-28-08 10:15 PM |
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I don't think this will apply here. The worker is not the one accused |
lizzy |
Nov-29-08 09:50 AM |
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no but in my daughters case her company was first named because.... |
unapatriciated |
Nov-29-08 12:59 PM |
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Wait until it's a few loaves of bread. My sympathy to the young man's family. n/t |
vickiss |
Nov-28-08 08:51 PM |
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Hey Magic Rat, that young fellow doesn't have to have died in vain. I'm out on eastern L.I. |
cryingshame |
Nov-28-08 08:55 PM |
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Thank you for telling your story here. I suspected exactly this scenario. |
yardwork |
Nov-28-08 09:16 PM |
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Thank you. |
genevat |
Nov-28-08 09:28 PM |
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Wal Mart is to blame |
Ex Lurker |
Nov-28-08 09:31 PM |
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Seriously, didn't one person see the employee |
BreatheOnMe |
Nov-28-08 09:58 PM |
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KandR. Thank you, Magic Rat |
Dystopian |
Nov-28-08 10:00 PM |
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Wow! Look at the size of that crowd ! |
Mind_your_head |
Nov-28-08 10:21 PM |
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In this instance capitalism kills. Crap, how terribly wrong. |
bluesmail |
Nov-28-08 10:24 PM |
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I don't miss retail one bit. |
Finnfan |
Nov-28-08 10:26 PM |
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As someone who only heard of "black friday" a few days ago |
quakerboy |
Nov-28-08 11:13 PM |
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Walmart is certainly to blame, but... |
davidthegnome |
Nov-29-08 12:09 AM |
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have you ever been in a crowd that's shoving you from behind? |
Magic Rat |
Nov-29-08 12:15 AM |
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No. I'm not Superman |
davidthegnome |
Nov-29-08 12:28 AM |
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when you advertise a first-come first-serve special sale |
Magic Rat |
Nov-29-08 12:37 AM |
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Maybe you're right and my initial shock at this |
davidthegnome |
Nov-29-08 12:43 AM |
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I mean no offense |
davidthegnome |
Nov-29-08 12:33 AM |
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have you ever waited in line on black friday? |
Magic Rat |
Nov-29-08 12:40 AM |
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No |
davidthegnome |
Nov-29-08 12:45 AM |
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I hate Wal Mart, but these imbeciles that waited in line |
hogwyld |
Dec-01-08 07:05 PM |
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Very true. |
lizzy |
Nov-29-08 01:15 AM |
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Agreed. |
Tilion |
Nov-29-08 01:19 AM |
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This is an occupational health and safety issue! |
sfnative |
Nov-29-08 01:11 AM |
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Our Wal-Mart didn't close and they had way more than enough things for everyone. |
Tilion |
Nov-29-08 01:18 AM |
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are you near a "super" walmart |
Magic Rat |
Nov-29-08 01:23 AM |
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Yeah, it's a Super Walmart. |
Tilion |
Nov-29-08 02:05 AM |
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What they should do is advertise that there are 2 or 6 or whatever |
SoCalDem |
Nov-29-08 01:31 AM |
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But the desired end is *precisely* to get a lot of frenzied, tension-filled |
Hannah Bell |
Nov-29-08 01:44 AM |
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very good |
Two Americas |
Nov-29-08 02:13 AM |
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We don't have a fucking Wal-Mart in this area - there is one about 3 hours away.... |
GreenTea |
Nov-29-08 01:37 AM |
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Could've been me too. Thank gosh I sleep in and don't care about buying crap |
Gwendolyn |
Nov-29-08 01:38 AM |
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i'm glad you're going to try and talk to whoever the attorney is. |
orleans |
Nov-29-08 02:06 AM |
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The only solution is to ban Black Friday completely |
jmowreader |
Nov-29-08 04:59 AM |
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The whole thing is sick, thus the name "door busters" |
Geek_Girl |
Nov-29-08 09:50 AM |
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I remember the great Furby stampede of 1998. |
ByTheRiver |
Nov-29-08 10:02 AM |
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Another disturbing story in the annals of... |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Nov-29-08 10:07 AM |
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Thank you, Magic Rat. Here's how another store handled this. |
Kajsa |
Nov-29-08 10:31 AM |
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Funny, I went shopping in a few locally-owned shops... |
bobshin |
Nov-29-08 11:18 AM |
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Welcome to DU,Bobshin! |
Kajsa |
Nov-29-08 12:13 PM |
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it is no different than yelling 'fire' in a crowded movie theater |
ksimons |
Nov-29-08 11:19 AM |
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No it's not. |
Dappleganger |
Nov-29-08 03:54 PM |
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Wal-Mart death |
Iodine99 |
Nov-29-08 11:54 AM |
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Why is it called "Black Friday?" |
ailsagirl |
Nov-29-08 01:01 PM |
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It's the traditional day that the retailers go from being in the red |
Midlodemocrat |
Nov-29-08 02:22 PM |
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Ah... black as in "not in the red"-- thanks |
ailsagirl |
Nov-29-08 06:21 PM |
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I hope they prosecute the nuts who.... |
Zombie2 |
Nov-29-08 01:51 PM |
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They did that last year on "Chuck" |
AnnieBW |
Nov-29-08 02:21 PM |
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They had to pass laws against General seating for concerts after what happened in Ohio |
WakeMeUp |
Nov-29-08 04:30 PM |
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Feck Black Friday! |
mackerel |
Nov-30-08 12:47 AM |
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Kick! nt |
thecatburgler |
Nov-30-08 03:35 AM |
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... |
Mari333 |
Nov-30-08 06:11 AM |
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