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Wed Nov-26-08 03:51 AM
Response to Reply #100 |
| 153. Not to mention the apparent attitude that a woman has no power or choices independent of men |
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as further evidenced in post 91.
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| -Women staying in unproductive relationships from lack of choices! |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 05:36 PM |
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Well, I'm all for welfare, food, housing, clothing, medical care, free, for anyone. |
bemildred |
Nov-25-08 05:41 PM |
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If her boyfriend isn't paying any bills, why doesn't she just live on her own? |
MercutioATC |
Nov-25-08 05:43 PM |
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she has other choices... |
msongs |
Nov-25-08 05:46 PM |
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Some elderly people already have a home health care aide, but could use a housemate |
BerryBush |
Nov-25-08 06:17 PM |
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No offense, but have you considered the possibility that she likes her boyfriend? |
TheWraith |
Nov-25-08 05:48 PM |
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have you considered... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Nov-25-08 08:49 PM |
#83 |
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Thank you for "getting it"!!! |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 09:03 PM |
#87 |
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Not normally a violent person |
awoke_in_2003 |
Nov-25-08 09:12 PM |
#90 |
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I understand completely! I don't like to think of violence being the way to solve anything, either! |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 09:18 PM |
#91 |
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Some middle class white males... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Nov-25-08 09:30 PM |
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If this is the woman's situation, she should call a woman's shelter for advice. n/t |
pnwmom |
Nov-26-08 12:07 AM |
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I'm a woman, and I would be appalled if the men in my family acted on my behalf without my consent. |
Heidi |
Nov-26-08 07:17 AM |
#158 |
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there is another way-disappear |
KakistocracyHater |
Nov-25-08 11:56 PM |
#124 |
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You're expecting people to read your mind because you've been selective |
pnwmom |
Nov-26-08 12:06 AM |
#125 |
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You're assuming a lot of things not in evidence. |
TheWraith |
Nov-25-08 11:10 PM |
#110 |
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I absolutely agree with you |
wildflower |
Nov-25-08 05:51 PM |
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You're the first one on this thread who *does* understand. |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 05:53 PM |
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perhaps because your post makes not a lot of sense? |
Warren Stupidity |
Nov-25-08 06:00 PM |
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maybe most of us are on ignore? |
uppityperson |
Nov-25-08 11:23 PM |
#113 |
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I wonder if getting women's groups involved would help? |
wildflower |
Nov-25-08 06:13 PM |
#18 |
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Congratulations on being a jerk. |
TheWraith |
Nov-25-08 11:12 PM |
#111 |
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I agree, more low income housing is needed, health care, etc. |
uppityperson |
Nov-25-08 05:57 PM |
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I'm missing the part where her boyfriend, who pays no bills, |
Warren Stupidity |
Nov-25-08 05:57 PM |
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Her employers need to pay a living wage |
LiberalEsto |
Nov-25-08 06:00 PM |
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So, we can wait for that..... or start getting low-income housing for ALL now?? |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 06:01 PM |
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The minimum wage could be increased more quickly than building a lot more |
pnwmom |
Nov-25-08 06:04 PM |
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All the elderly and disabled people thank you. |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 07:46 PM |
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Your friend isn't elderly. Is she disabled? |
pnwmom |
Nov-25-08 08:03 PM |
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I included people like me in the OP.... but you've made it clear you're not available to |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 08:09 PM |
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Your OP highlighted your friend's situation -- a friend who appears to have |
pnwmom |
Nov-25-08 08:16 PM |
#68 |
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Man, your local library is open late |
haruka3_2000 |
Nov-25-08 09:36 PM |
#96 |
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I have that post at 7:09 mountain time |
hfojvt |
Nov-26-08 12:46 AM |
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Indeed they do. |
surrealAmerican |
Nov-25-08 06:57 PM |
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This young woman has other choices. She could live with a girlfriend, |
pnwmom |
Nov-25-08 06:03 PM |
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Winner! She could live with a girlfriend! |
fed_up_mother |
Nov-25-08 06:29 PM |
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Yep, my mother does that |
Lorien |
Nov-26-08 12:45 AM |
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Why is she sticking with a leech boyfriend that doesn't pay any bills? |
tjwash |
Nov-25-08 06:05 PM |
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Yeah, I'm not grasping the issue |
TheKentuckian |
Nov-25-08 06:07 PM |
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"people need a variety of support systems to get their feet underneath them" |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-25-08 06:11 PM |
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I have to agree |
eilen |
Nov-25-08 07:05 PM |
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The ability to earn a living wage would solve so many problems for so many. |
Gwendolyn |
Nov-25-08 06:09 PM |
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Nobody should be forced to live with someone they want to leave |
oktoberain |
Nov-25-08 06:13 PM |
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Thank you, oktoberbrain |
wildflower |
Nov-25-08 06:23 PM |
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"The lack of affordable housing in America is a social evil that desperately needs to be remedied." |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 06:26 PM |
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It is of importance, and it isn't new. |
Gwendolyn |
Nov-25-08 06:32 PM |
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So, what are we going to do about it? Accept it? |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 06:47 PM |
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dupe n/t |
Gwendolyn |
Nov-25-08 07:48 PM |
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Well, considering that more and more families are going to find themselves on the street |
Gwendolyn |
Nov-25-08 07:48 PM |
#51 |
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As someone who sees a desperate need for low-income housing and better wages |
fed_up_mother |
Nov-25-08 06:34 PM |
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I'm sure that never occurred to her. Because, of course, she must be stooopid. |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 06:49 PM |
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If she really considered it, then she wouldn't say she only has two choices. |
pnwmom |
Nov-25-08 07:03 PM |
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I see no reason to support the lousy boyfriend who won't get a job |
fed_up_mother |
Nov-25-08 07:38 PM |
#48 |
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And my mother rented out rooms in her big house for a time, |
pnwmom |
Nov-25-08 08:03 PM |
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Unlike many here, I don't dictate to people. |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 08:11 PM |
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Why Are You Being So Nasty To People Who Are Sincere? |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Nov-25-08 09:37 PM |
#97 |
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because that's what she does |
pitohui |
Nov-25-08 09:46 PM |
#102 |
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That's a good book to read. |
Confound W |
Nov-25-08 11:48 PM |
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Regular housing would be more affordable if there were higher wages. |
pnwmom |
Nov-25-08 06:59 PM |
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Do "progressives" differ on whether elderly and disabled people should have housing? |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 07:05 PM |
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The elderly and disabled often are often unable to work in order |
pnwmom |
Nov-25-08 07:11 PM |
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And how do you know that?? Do you know her? |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 07:12 PM |
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I know that without knowing her. You say she only has two choices. |
pnwmom |
Nov-25-08 07:17 PM |
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It must be great to be so certain. |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 07:36 PM |
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I do support low-income family for people who need it, but I'd prefer that |
pnwmom |
Nov-25-08 07:52 PM |
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thanks for reminding me that you consider me illogical. |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 08:13 PM |
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The Poster Called You No Names. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Nov-25-08 09:39 PM |
#98 |
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good lord, someone suggests something and you accuse them of not being supportive. |
uppityperson |
Nov-25-08 11:27 PM |
#114 |
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Maybe if you would give us more information |
Dorian Gray |
Nov-25-08 09:52 PM |
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It's still easier for young people to be more fluid in their choices. |
Gwendolyn |
Nov-25-08 07:13 PM |
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You took the words out of my mouth, bobbolink! A lot of people probably wonder why |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Nov-25-08 07:19 PM |
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i was going to respond to someone who believes this woman has lots of choices |
noiretblu |
Nov-25-08 07:21 PM |
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Especially the know-it-alls who've never been there... just like the RWers who are so CERTAIN |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 07:43 PM |
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Oh please. I've chosen the roommate option. So has my daughter, so have |
pnwmom |
Nov-25-08 08:12 PM |
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I've done the roommate option too. |
Withywindle |
Nov-25-08 10:51 PM |
#107 |
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Has your friend even applied for low income housing? |
lizzy |
Nov-25-08 08:26 PM |
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Ummmm, Looks Like Someone Was Completely Incompetent In Selecting A Roommate. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Nov-25-08 09:43 PM |
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You have no idea who of us has been there. Shame on you for your assumptions and accusations. |
uppityperson |
Nov-25-08 11:28 PM |
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The problem is that the OP gives no reasons as to why this woman |
pnwmom |
Nov-25-08 07:57 PM |
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This young woman isn't being forced to do anything; she has lots of options. |
pnwmom |
Nov-25-08 07:09 PM |
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Exactly. To suggest that a woman needs a boyfriend or daddy to survive is |
Lorien |
Nov-26-08 12:52 AM |
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There have been a steady increase in McMansions being built |
intheflow |
Nov-25-08 08:54 PM |
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I've thought of that here. For example, what is going to happen to |
pnwmom |
Nov-26-08 12:12 AM |
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kick..! |
KoKo01 |
Nov-25-08 06:33 PM |
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What's a "productive" relationship? |
leftstreet |
Nov-25-08 06:37 PM |
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Here's how some young people are making do. |
pnwmom |
Nov-25-08 06:53 PM |
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An option like that may not be opened to the woman. |
Confound W |
Nov-25-08 11:34 PM |
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What do you mean? There are houses full of women looking for other |
Lorien |
Nov-26-08 12:59 AM |
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Wait a minute... I don't understand something |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-25-08 07:05 PM |
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May be the boyfriend's apartment. |
Lars39 |
Nov-25-08 07:23 PM |
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Exactly! |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 07:37 PM |
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so why didn't you say that to begin with |
WolverineDG |
Nov-25-08 07:55 PM |
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Yes, it's all bullshit to you, because you don't see any need for compassion. |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 08:14 PM |
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I would laugh, but you are too much. Pot-kettle. I pity you |
uppityperson |
Nov-25-08 11:29 PM |
#116 |
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If it is his apartment, then he is paying the bills (rent? taxes on |
lizzy |
Nov-25-08 08:21 PM |
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Don't bother |
WolverineDG |
Nov-25-08 08:39 PM |
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Don't expect any tales from the pos(t)er to ever make sense. NT |
mondo joe |
Nov-25-08 10:59 PM |
#108 |
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It is hard being 20 in this world |
wellstone dem |
Nov-25-08 07:22 PM |
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All good advice. Your daughter is lucky to have you. n/t |
pnwmom |
Nov-25-08 08:01 PM |
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For all of you "progressives" |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 07:49 PM |
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Homelessness is a terrible, frightening position to be in. |
Gwendolyn |
Nov-25-08 08:35 PM |
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Why didn't you just post an OP stating we need more affordable housing? |
leftstreet |
Nov-25-08 11:16 PM |
#112 |
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If BF isn't paying the bills |
WolverineDG |
Nov-25-08 07:53 PM |
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Agreed |
tammywammy |
Nov-25-08 08:00 PM |
#57 |
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she has some choices |
dugaresa |
Nov-25-08 08:09 PM |
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"first she kicks out the deadbeat boyfriend" GREAT IDEA!! WHY DIDNT SHE THINK OF THAT??? |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 08:16 PM |
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If it's HIS apartment, WHO IS PAYING THE RENT??? |
WolverineDG |
Nov-25-08 08:42 PM |
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If the apartment is his, she'll have to leave. |
Lars39 |
Nov-25-08 08:16 PM |
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Thank you. I thought there was more awareness here than there obviously is. |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 08:21 PM |
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Not to mention a lot of landlords are checking credit scores. |
Lars39 |
Nov-25-08 08:27 PM |
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Yes, all of that. It's so painful for these young women. |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 08:54 PM |
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She could live with her parents until she saves up the deposits. |
pnwmom |
Nov-26-08 12:17 AM |
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If the boyfriend doesn't pay the bills, why does she have to live |
lizzy |
Nov-25-08 08:20 PM |
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There should be... |
dajoki |
Nov-25-08 08:20 PM |
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dajoki, you are a wonderful father and grandfather, so it's very difficult to understand what these |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 08:26 PM |
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No I don't get it... |
dajoki |
Nov-25-08 09:06 PM |
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While you make good points about lack of afforable housing and poor wages, you lost me on your |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-25-08 08:34 PM |
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Most college students live in crummy apartments with roommates. |
pnwmom |
Nov-25-08 08:36 PM |
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You might not have called people names... |
travelingtypist |
Nov-25-08 08:46 PM |
#82 |
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I agree with the need for low income housing |
ismnotwasm |
Nov-25-08 08:59 PM |
#86 |
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Much as I bitched the whole time I was in the military |
thecatburgler |
Nov-25-08 10:18 PM |
#106 |
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Sounds like High Point, Greenbridge and Holly Park in Seattle |
eridani |
Nov-26-08 02:46 AM |
#151 |
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I don't understand the big problem. |
Xenotime |
Nov-25-08 09:11 PM |
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I am stymied |
maryf |
Nov-25-08 09:24 PM |
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Thank you, maryf!! I'm so discouraged at the lack of awareness and concern... |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 09:33 PM |
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The opposite attitude to this cynical, judgemental position: |
bobbolink |
Nov-25-08 09:40 PM |
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Why take at face value something that doesn't make sense? |
mondo joe |
Nov-25-08 11:03 PM |
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Because we can't take at face value something that is clearly FALSE. |
pnwmom |
Nov-26-08 12:23 AM |
#129 |
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Would've Been A Worthy OP If It Weren't For The Inherent Sexism Within It. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Nov-25-08 09:34 PM |
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the poster is a well known dweller under bridges |
pitohui |
Nov-25-08 09:42 PM |
#100 |
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I Lived In My Car Through 2 Of Jersey's Harshest Winters In Decades. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Nov-25-08 09:47 PM |
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you know, that's a good way to put it |
pitohui |
Nov-25-08 09:52 PM |
#104 |
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And the problem is that that kind of attitude drives potential helpers away. |
pnwmom |
Nov-26-08 12:33 AM |
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How patronizing of you. |
undeterred |
Nov-26-08 12:34 AM |
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Do you think... |
mondo joe |
Nov-26-08 12:35 AM |
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I was wondering that, actually. |
pnwmom |
Nov-26-08 12:45 AM |
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My impression has been that nothing we do or say |
JackBeck |
Nov-26-08 01:54 AM |
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Yup. Many of us have been there, been homeless or in bad situations |
uppityperson |
Nov-25-08 11:36 PM |
#118 |
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The thread isn't about trying to help. It's a stink bomb intended as a vehicle to be |
mondo joe |
Nov-25-08 11:39 PM |
#119 |
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I know. I don't understand why these are let open, why let the nastiness continue. |
uppityperson |
Nov-25-08 11:43 PM |
#120 |
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What I don't understand is how the OP is able to post at all hours of the day |
JackBeck |
Nov-25-08 11:49 PM |
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Nor do I. These threads are just bait for DUers to nibble on and get slammed for their |
mondo joe |
Nov-25-08 11:51 PM |
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Precisely. |
quantessd |
Nov-26-08 12:28 AM |
#130 |
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Its not about your issue |
undeterred |
Nov-26-08 12:31 AM |
#132 |
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The thread is not about anything but pissing on DUers, from someone with nothing |
mondo joe |
Nov-26-08 12:34 AM |
#134 |
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Care to inform us what mondo's "issue" is? |
JackBeck |
Nov-26-08 12:34 AM |
#135 |
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You've apparently got some hostility issues. |
undeterred |
Nov-26-08 12:35 AM |
#139 |
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None at all. |
JackBeck |
Nov-26-08 12:37 AM |
#141 |
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You might be on to something. |
pnwmom |
Nov-26-08 12:30 AM |
#131 |
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Not to mention the apparent attitude that a woman has no power or choices independent of men |
Radical Activist |
Nov-26-08 03:51 AM |
#153 |
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No, I cannot "consider this as important as stopping the war, as important as gay marriage, |
Heidi |
Nov-26-08 12:34 AM |
#137 |
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Heidi, thank you. |
JackBeck |
Nov-26-08 12:36 AM |
#140 |
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Agreed. Affordable housing is a very important issue. But the story in the OP trivializes |
mondo joe |
Nov-26-08 12:39 AM |
#142 |
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Read 'Nickeled and Dimed' by Barbara Ehrenreich |
JCMach1 |
Nov-26-08 12:43 AM |
#143 |
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I'm curious to hear what your solutions are for your friend. |
JackBeck |
Nov-26-08 02:07 AM |
#150 |
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There is always choice... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Nov-26-08 03:22 AM |
#152 |
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As long as you blame the guy and not the woman, that's all that really counts. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-26-08 05:40 AM |
#154 |
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Or maybe she should |
Heidi |
Nov-26-08 06:49 AM |
#155 |
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Self sufficiency is a worthy goal for all young people. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-26-08 06:58 AM |
#156 |
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I couldn't agree more. |
Heidi |
Nov-26-08 07:09 AM |
#157 |
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Locking. |
Puglover |
Nov-26-08 07:31 AM |
#159 |
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