Lydia Leftcoast
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Sat Nov-22-08 12:07 PM
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| 36. For every entrepreneur who goes from rags to riches with something he |
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built in his garage, there's a crass idiot who was born into affluence, went to an Ivy League school through family connections, and got hired through alumni connections to work on Wall Street or in the upper reaches of the federal government or writing for major publications, despite only average writing skills. How do I know this? I went to an Ivy League school for graduate school, was in organizations with mediocre rich kids and TA'd mediocre rich kids.
There's something suspicious about a young person whose only writing experience is a university newspaper going directly from college to senior editor at a major news magazine, book reviewer for a major newspaper, sportswriter for a major newspaper, staff writer at a major feature magazine. (These are people I knew.)
You can't tell me that those people worked harder or wrote better than the run-of-the-mill J-school graduate who ends up at a small town newspaper and most likely stays there because newspapers are cutting back on their staffs.
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| -My vision of an American left |
realpolitik |
Nov-21-08 08:51 PM |
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Ultimate |
Profprileasn |
Nov-21-08 09:20 PM |
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Not bad, pretty good actually |
BeFree |
Nov-21-08 09:22 PM |
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Capitalism is the only proven method of economics that works |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-21-08 09:33 PM |
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Name ten actual capitalist governments |
realpolitik |
Nov-21-08 09:47 PM |
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Not sure where you get this from: |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-21-08 09:57 PM |
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No, I can't name a government I would call completely socialist |
realpolitik |
Nov-21-08 10:16 PM |
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The points you made earlier Re. Capitalism |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 12:07 AM |
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Right-Wing Myths |
sfnative |
Nov-22-08 01:34 PM |
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I myself think that CEO's should have their salaries capped |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 02:24 PM |
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In our economy, the lay ones are the paper pushers at the top. |
girl gone mad |
Nov-22-08 04:56 PM |
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The Middle Class need |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 09:24 PM |
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You are clueless about Socialism. |
cali |
Nov-22-08 11:34 AM |
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Socialism is a watered-down version of Communism |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 11:39 AM |
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oooh - commies! |
Terry in Austin |
Nov-22-08 12:03 PM |
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Yeah I know, they're EVERYWHERE! |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 12:08 PM |
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Gee, maybe they're onto something, then |
Terry in Austin |
Nov-22-08 12:33 PM |
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Glen Fiddich |
realpolitik |
Nov-22-08 03:53 PM |
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You can't be stupid enough to believe that. |
Zhade |
Nov-23-08 12:02 AM |
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I honestly disagree |
LeftishBrit |
Nov-25-08 04:41 PM |
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Who is clueless? |
blindpig |
Nov-25-08 04:50 PM |
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We need to find a middle way |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-21-08 10:04 PM |
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Re establishment of trade tariffs would be my preferred way |
realpolitik |
Nov-21-08 10:18 PM |
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I'm against trade tariffs, but I agree that the military budget is obscene |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 12:18 AM |
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I am not convinced we need 400 ships online |
realpolitik |
Nov-22-08 11:12 AM |
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We are agreed on Saudi Arabia and Iraq |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 11:45 AM |
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The Saud Royalty turned |
realpolitik |
Nov-22-08 04:26 PM |
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Well then |
BeFree |
Nov-21-08 10:04 PM |
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I don't call giving the Middle Classes tax cuts and affordable childcare and affordable healthcare |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 12:20 AM |
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works? ha ha ha ha! |
leftofthedial |
Nov-22-08 11:47 AM |
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Ah, the Capitalist Catechism |
Terry in Austin |
Nov-22-08 11:50 AM |
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Social Capitalism, maybe. Try Sweden - beats our ass at economic growth and prosperity. |
Zhade |
Nov-23-08 12:02 AM |
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not without Gay rights |
mitchtv |
Nov-21-08 09:23 PM |
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I would like to reframe the prop eight issue |
realpolitik |
Nov-21-08 09:30 PM |
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Maybe I am old and stupid |
mitchtv |
Nov-21-08 09:46 PM |
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Maybe you are currently disinclined to see yourself as part of the whole. |
realpolitik |
Nov-21-08 09:54 PM |
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Gay people should be given 100% the same rights as non-Gay people |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-21-08 09:35 PM |
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Actually |
BeFree |
Nov-21-08 10:11 PM |
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I don't know why you seem so anti-success |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 12:23 AM |
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Not in my old field. |
realpolitik |
Nov-22-08 11:30 AM |
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For every entrepreneur who goes from rags to riches with something he |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-22-08 12:07 PM |
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You might like this letter from a hedge fund manager. |
girl gone mad |
Nov-22-08 05:14 PM |
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most of the people that can do that don't come from poor backgrounds |
cali |
Nov-22-08 11:37 AM |
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I went to elite private schools as well |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 11:41 AM |
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Yes, indeedy why can't those ingrate poor people just pull themselves |
cali |
Nov-22-08 11:48 AM |
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Nobody at my elite private schools were on scholarships |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 12:05 PM |
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let me point out a couple of things: |
cali |
Nov-22-08 12:14 PM |
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Maybe there were |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 12:29 PM |
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no, many cannot choose to just break out of the pattern. |
cali |
Nov-22-08 12:38 PM |
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"For instance, poor nutrition has a known impact on brain development" |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 12:48 PM |
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Lots of rich people drink too. |
LeftishBrit |
Nov-25-08 04:53 PM |
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You really have no clue, do you? |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-22-08 12:14 PM |
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"Or they had no one to teach them how to succeed" |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 12:33 PM |
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you know jackshit about brain development. |
cali |
Nov-22-08 12:40 PM |
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You don't need to get bad-mannered, I've been perfectly polite toward you n/t |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 12:43 PM |
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I apologize. But you really appear to know nothing |
cali |
Nov-22-08 12:45 PM |
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Apology accepted |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 12:53 PM |
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Those are the rare, rare exceptions, not the rule. |
cali |
Nov-22-08 12:56 PM |
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I'm not ignorant, it's just that you and I have a DIFFERENT take on this issue |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 01:00 PM |
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I'm sorry, but it is ignorant not to grasp the profound effects |
cali |
Nov-22-08 01:03 PM |
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The effects of poverty on the development of the brain |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 01:10 PM |
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oh for pity's sake |
cali |
Nov-22-08 01:32 PM |
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*Scratches head" |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 01:44 PM |
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Some people are not only clueless, they're fucking heartless too. |
Zhade |
Nov-23-08 12:11 AM |
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You are ignorant of the fact that poor children who can't EAT have less brain development. |
Zhade |
Nov-23-08 12:08 AM |
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Actually, those of us who were born middle or upper class WERE taught |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-22-08 12:46 PM |
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"Similarly, many poor people have unconsciously absorbed ways NOT to succeed" |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 12:58 PM |
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and that will take a huge investment and committment |
cali |
Nov-22-08 01:02 PM |
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Or rather than raise taxes, one could cut |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 01:16 PM |
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Yeah, right, ANYTHING but raise taxes on the super-rich |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-22-08 04:39 PM |
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If you read my post # 17, you'll see that I already said that the defense budget needs cutting |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 09:30 PM |
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What a slimy post |
JetCityLiberal |
Nov-22-08 01:27 PM |
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it is rather distressing to see this kind of stuff on du |
cali |
Nov-22-08 01:35 PM |
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I am pretty sick of it cali |
JetCityLiberal |
Nov-22-08 01:38 PM |
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Not as distressing and as slimy as the anti-gay posts that popped up all around the place n/t |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 01:46 PM |
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ignorance, hate and closed minds are distressing on any subject |
cali |
Nov-22-08 01:49 PM |
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I don't think it's me that's displaying the hate here, I am seeing rather a |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 01:56 PM |
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Yes it is just as slimy |
JetCityLiberal |
Nov-22-08 01:50 PM |
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So this is really all about what? Hating and envying the wealthy |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 01:50 PM |
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You are clueless |
JetCityLiberal |
Nov-22-08 01:53 PM |
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Your solution to the poverty problem is what then? |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 01:59 PM |
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Higher taxes on the wealthy like your Dad |
JetCityLiberal |
Nov-22-08 02:01 PM |
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your true colors are really shining through |
cali |
Nov-22-08 02:01 PM |
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Are you and JetCityLiberal trying to get me into trouble or something? |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 02:09 PM |
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in trouble? not at all. there's nothing in your posts that could get |
cali |
Nov-22-08 02:12 PM |
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"You know I don't have a problem with centrist dems" |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 02:16 PM |
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You don't need any help getting into trouble |
JetCityLiberal |
Nov-22-08 02:19 PM |
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Why are you wishing me good luck? |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 02:26 PM |
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You're right. They can't be bothered. |
lynyrd_skynyrd |
Nov-22-08 05:03 PM |
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You epitomize the phrase, "I got mine, fuck you". |
Zhade |
Nov-23-08 12:12 AM |
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Unbelievable |
blindpig |
Nov-25-08 04:53 PM |
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Spoken like a true DLCer |
lynyrd_skynyrd |
Nov-22-08 04:58 PM |
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Who does want to 'remain in poverty all their lives'? |
LeftishBrit |
Nov-25-08 04:48 PM |
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Um, all of those things cost money. And they're POOR. |
Zhade |
Nov-23-08 12:09 AM |
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"Success" ultimately comes at the expense of others |
Terry in Austin |
Nov-22-08 11:55 AM |
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I simply don't agree that |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 12:08 PM |
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Of course you don't |
Terry in Austin |
Nov-22-08 12:24 PM |
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What we need to do is |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 12:40 PM |
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My dad disagreed with you |
cali |
Nov-22-08 12:47 PM |
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Your Dad has a right to disagree |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 01:20 PM |
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I am RealP and I endorse this message. |
realpolitik |
Nov-22-08 06:00 PM |
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What we WILL do is |
Terry in Austin |
Nov-22-08 01:48 PM |
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That's because you refuse to entertain the possibility you could be wrong. |
Zhade |
Nov-23-08 12:14 AM |
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I do not subscribe to a zero sum economic world |
realpolitik |
Nov-22-08 04:07 PM |
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Ah, but does it subscribe to you? |
Terry in Austin |
Nov-22-08 04:39 PM |
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Now you've lost me completely |
comrade snarky |
Nov-22-08 01:41 PM |
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I think that's debatable. |
girl gone mad |
Nov-22-08 05:03 PM |
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HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh man, what color is the sky in your world? |
Zhade |
Nov-23-08 12:06 AM |
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works for me. |
leftofthedial |
Nov-22-08 11:50 AM |
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What would a "conversion to a collectivist economic organization" be? n/t |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 12:11 PM |
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good question |
leftofthedial |
Nov-22-08 02:42 PM |
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So the answer is what? n/t |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 02:49 PM |
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Right on, realpolitik |
Terry in Austin |
Nov-22-08 11:59 AM |
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Or in some future time, if high-order life survives on Earth, some anthro will say |
bean fidhleir |
Nov-22-08 12:24 PM |
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For real |
leftstreet |
Nov-22-08 01:52 PM |
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That's pretty good. |
LWolf |
Nov-22-08 12:05 PM |
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I think that the actual majory is already left of center |
realpolitik |
Nov-22-08 04:53 PM |
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We can step away. I hope it happens. |
LWolf |
Nov-23-08 09:01 AM |
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I also think people are farther left than the DLC wants, only they don't |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-23-08 09:16 AM |
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Looks great! Obama has broken my heart and killed all hope |
upi402 |
Nov-22-08 12:15 PM |
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Perspective |
Terry in Austin |
Nov-22-08 01:09 PM |
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Don't we already have public education to 18? |
liberalpragmatist |
Nov-22-08 12:54 PM |
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Grade 16, not age 16. |
Zhade |
Nov-23-08 12:16 AM |
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Sounds good to me. |
Edweird |
Nov-22-08 01:09 PM |
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I'm sorry that I've unintentionally upset some people in this thread |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 02:58 PM |
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Fair enough |
Terry in Austin |
Nov-22-08 06:14 PM |
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I think we agree that poverty is a distressing problem |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 09:18 PM |
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Agree |
Profprileasn |
Nov-22-08 09:52 PM |
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Exactly |
...of J.Temperance |
Nov-22-08 10:17 PM |
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You're kidding, right? |
Terry in Austin |
Nov-24-08 12:39 PM |
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I don't expect your politics will let you understand this, but your thesis |
bean fidhleir |
Nov-24-08 01:31 PM |
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I think we need to appeal to left/social libertarians. Marriage = for GLBT, end to the drug war |
impeachdubya |
Nov-25-08 04:43 PM |
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Realpolitik a class liberal |
TooCoolHuh |
Nov-25-08 05:01 PM |
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