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| -How would you help an 11 year old child who is suicidal? |
Beausoir |
Nov-21-08 08:39 PM |
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Get them professional help... |
KC2 |
Nov-21-08 08:41 PM |
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How am I supposed to get "them" professional help? |
Beausoir |
Nov-21-08 08:42 PM |
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hmmm sad. |
themartyred |
Nov-21-08 08:46 PM |
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Take him under your wing and give the child all the support you can. |
Double T |
Nov-21-08 08:43 PM |
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I can't even get close to the child due to Hippa. |
Beausoir |
Nov-21-08 08:49 PM |
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due to Hippa? |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 05:16 AM |
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Chances are he has been referred for help through PS at this stage. |
MichiganVote |
Nov-21-08 08:49 PM |
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Do you know his family or is your son friends with him? |
MPK |
Nov-21-08 08:49 PM |
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You are exactly correct. |
Beausoir |
Nov-21-08 08:51 PM |
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I guess I would try to think of a way to be supportive when he gets out. |
MPK |
Nov-21-08 08:57 PM |
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It's very sad |
Dorian Gray |
Nov-21-08 09:42 PM |
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I agree with what MPK said |
wildflower |
Nov-21-08 10:31 PM |
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I'm a mentor.... he could be persuaded to sign up for a mentor program |
Cronus Protagonist |
Nov-21-08 11:21 PM |
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That's a hard one. |
Cleita |
Nov-21-08 08:54 PM |
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you are seriously misunderstanding the situation. |
mopinko |
Nov-21-08 09:34 PM |
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Whoa. |
wtmusic |
Nov-21-08 10:10 PM |
#47 |
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and it is a giant leap to assume abuse. |
mopinko |
Nov-21-08 10:22 PM |
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Who's assuming? |
wtmusic |
Nov-21-08 10:28 PM |
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and some kids brains just go on the fritz. |
mopinko |
Nov-21-08 10:34 PM |
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Hence his suggestion was to find out whats wrong |
RedCappedBandit |
Nov-22-08 09:22 AM |
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lynch mob? |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 05:23 AM |
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Mental illness can arise from different factors. |
amitten |
Nov-21-08 10:57 PM |
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This seems very personal with you. n/t |
Cleita |
Nov-21-08 11:21 PM |
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yup, it is. been there done that. |
mopinko |
Nov-22-08 07:43 PM |
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why is it so obvious... |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 05:26 AM |
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maybe he wasn't raped or beaten, but neglect IS abuse. |
FarceOfNature |
Nov-23-08 10:56 AM |
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maybe they are out of town. |
mopinko |
Nov-23-08 11:05 AM |
#137 |
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OK, so you leave an 11 YEAR OLD with no emergency contact to go out of town. |
FarceOfNature |
Nov-23-08 11:22 AM |
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you seem absolutely sure there is no abuse? |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 05:21 AM |
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i'm not sure. but no one else here is either. |
mopinko |
Nov-23-08 10:33 AM |
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well good luck working that out |
Kire |
Nov-24-08 07:39 AM |
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Maybe I do, but I think most people think a good place to start is |
Cleita |
Nov-21-08 10:13 PM |
#50 |
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2 trips to the er? he will be evaluated. |
mopinko |
Nov-21-08 10:25 PM |
#56 |
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you made up your mind about that one |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 05:27 AM |
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sorry you're stressed, but you're wrong. |
tomp |
Nov-21-08 11:16 PM |
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no. assume that i have walked in this families shoes |
mopinko |
Nov-22-08 07:49 PM |
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You know what they say what happens when you assume something |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 05:28 AM |
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Hear hear! |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 05:27 AM |
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"pure bullshit"? |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 05:19 AM |
#100 |
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It takes a village... |
GloriaSmith |
Nov-21-08 08:55 PM |
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You could just as easily ask |
Warpy |
Nov-21-08 09:51 PM |
#44 |
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Maybe he'll become a great artist someday.... |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 05:31 AM |
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"His parents are not 'available' " Does he have a guardian? |
ColbertWatcher |
Nov-21-08 08:56 PM |
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This is just a nameless child in my community. There is nothing I can do to help. |
Beausoir |
Nov-21-08 08:59 PM |
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If he has had trouble in school the teachers are supposed to do something. |
ColbertWatcher |
Nov-21-08 09:01 PM |
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Kick. I know it's a longer read than DU is used to, but this is about kids, |
Beausoir |
Nov-21-08 08:57 PM |
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I replied a little more up above. |
MPK |
Nov-21-08 09:00 PM |
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here's an interesting article on the subject: |
GloriaSmith |
Nov-21-08 09:02 PM |
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Would it be possible to raise funds for the child? Perhaps if he could see |
riley3 |
Nov-21-08 08:57 PM |
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If the hospital has a psyche department, |
elleng |
Nov-21-08 08:58 PM |
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Yes, there is a "Grace Unit". But I doubt it is equipped to handle a suicidal child. |
Beausoir |
Nov-21-08 09:01 PM |
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Is there a university nearby with a psychiatry school? |
ColbertWatcher |
Nov-21-08 09:03 PM |
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Gosh no. This is the tundra up here. Nearest reputable college is 2 1/2 hours away by car. |
Beausoir |
Nov-21-08 09:06 PM |
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Tundra as in Alaska? |
elleng |
Nov-21-08 09:12 PM |
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Ugh. How about student activities? Is there a teen center? |
ColbertWatcher |
Nov-21-08 09:16 PM |
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I sent your post to my daughters, |
elleng |
Nov-21-08 09:11 PM |
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I vote to have your kid Secretary of HHS instead of Daschle. n/t |
ColbertWatcher |
Nov-21-08 09:17 PM |
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THANKS for that, 'Watcher! |
elleng |
Nov-21-08 10:27 PM |
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Great, informative post. |
Beausoir |
Nov-21-08 09:18 PM |
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Thanks. |
elleng |
Nov-21-08 09:35 PM |
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maybe this is not about him. maybe it is about you. |
mopinko |
Nov-22-08 09:32 PM |
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is that like staring at your belly button? |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 05:36 AM |
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Nov-23-08 11:27 PM |
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Questions |
snot |
Nov-21-08 09:02 PM |
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Answers: He talked to his classmates. He told them he was suicidal. He ran away from school into |
Beausoir |
Nov-21-08 10:57 PM |
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I think snot would like to know what the content of the suicidal thoughts were |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 05:38 AM |
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Your options are quite limited due to HIPAA.... |
OhioChick |
Nov-21-08 09:02 PM |
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Yep. There is really nothing that I can do. |
Beausoir |
Nov-21-08 09:05 PM |
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wow. that poor kid! |
OhioBlue |
Nov-21-08 09:05 PM |
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I don't understand what you mean by his parents aren't available |
OurVotesCount-Ohio |
Nov-21-08 09:06 PM |
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good questions |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 05:39 AM |
#110 |
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Amino acids got me back in the land of the living |
cpamomfromtexas |
Nov-21-08 09:07 PM |
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A child with suicidal ideations... |
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf |
Nov-21-08 09:09 PM |
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Yes, there is nothing I can do. I just have to watch as a young child evaporates. |
Beausoir |
Nov-21-08 09:15 PM |
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Not really. |
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf |
Nov-22-08 09:02 AM |
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this country is great |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 05:40 AM |
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My experiences with NAMI are that they are very good if the problem is schizophrenia or bi polar |
amandabeech |
Nov-21-08 11:08 PM |
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take him off of prozac |
soothsayer |
Nov-21-08 09:14 PM |
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you know that there was a huge spike in adolescent suicides |
mopinko |
Nov-21-08 09:38 PM |
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I didn't know that |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 05:41 AM |
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I once had to deal with a suicidal 6 year old. |
readmoreoften |
Nov-21-08 09:27 PM |
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i don't understand what you mean by the parents not being available |
JI7 |
Nov-21-08 09:27 PM |
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Post 23 she says the parents are not in the picture but no mention of who is raising the child. |
OurVotesCount-Ohio |
Nov-21-08 10:25 PM |
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don't assume anything. there may be no real world triggers for this kid. |
mopinko |
Nov-21-08 09:28 PM |
#38 |
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"no real world triggers" |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 05:43 AM |
#113 |
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fuck the rules, make a stink |
Kali |
Nov-21-08 09:30 PM |
#39 |
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You have to do it. Only you. |
Hermes Daughter |
Nov-21-08 10:46 PM |
#63 |
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"Yes you can!" |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 05:45 AM |
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If I had a fork and a glass |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 05:44 AM |
#114 |
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Aside from prof help, he needs to be tested for allergies of all kinds.... |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Nov-21-08 09:54 PM |
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I am sorry to ask such a stupid question |
Tumbulu |
Nov-21-08 10:09 PM |
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laws that pertain to health care professionals. period. |
mopinko |
Nov-21-08 10:13 PM |
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you say the words "no" and "nothing" a lot |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 05:46 AM |
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HIPAA |
OhioChick |
Nov-21-08 10:13 PM |
#51 |
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Laws involving medical information |
haruka3_2000 |
Nov-21-08 11:05 PM |
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gack |
mopinko |
Nov-21-08 10:10 PM |
#48 |
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His parents are unable to parent. He lives with them but they are unable to be parents. |
Beausoir |
Nov-21-08 11:02 PM |
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His parents never showed up? Who did the hospital release him to? |
OurVotesCount-Ohio |
Nov-21-08 11:11 PM |
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says who? |
mopinko |
Nov-22-08 08:38 PM |
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says the grand inquisitor |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 06:43 AM |
#119 |
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This whole country is steeped in a sick pop psychology |
antfarm |
Nov-21-08 11:49 PM |
#81 |
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thank you. |
mopinko |
Nov-22-08 08:39 PM |
#96 |
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someone needs to take her own advice |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 05:48 AM |
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i think i have openly discussed my reasons for posting what i have posted. |
mopinko |
Nov-23-08 10:39 AM |
#134 |
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you think you openly discussed it? |
Kire |
Nov-24-08 07:38 AM |
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Sometimes mom doesn't give a crap |
shrike |
Nov-24-08 09:25 AM |
#152 |
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and the sad truth is- nothing is guaranteed to help this kid. |
mopinko |
Nov-21-08 10:17 PM |
#52 |
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are you not judging |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 06:45 AM |
#120 |
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If he is a friend of your son |
wtmusic |
Nov-21-08 10:21 PM |
#53 |
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He sounds like he is way past this and needs professional intervention and therapy :^( |
GreenPartyVoter |
Nov-21-08 10:32 PM |
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The ER should have handed him off to Psych for evaluation and maybe even a hold |
GreenPartyVoter |
Nov-21-08 10:37 PM |
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That is what happened. The ER handed him off. |
Beausoir |
Nov-21-08 10:51 PM |
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I don't think I could be a nurse. The suffering would break my heart. That and |
GreenPartyVoter |
Nov-21-08 11:02 PM |
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Are you saying he's been placed in the psych unit? |
OurVotesCount-Ohio |
Nov-21-08 11:04 PM |
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these nurses should be fired. |
mopinko |
Nov-22-08 07:47 PM |
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"blabbing as much as you have divulged here" |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 06:47 AM |
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they should not be discussing any patient with anyone. |
mopinko |
Nov-23-08 11:04 AM |
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Nov-23-08 11:33 PM |
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call out the dogs, then |
Kire |
Nov-24-08 07:36 AM |
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Sounds like he needs a Guardian Ad Litem |
Dappleganger |
Nov-21-08 10:55 PM |
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having a mentally ill child is not grounds for destroying a family. |
mopinko |
Nov-22-08 08:41 PM |
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why are you sorry? |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 06:48 AM |
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i am sorry that people here do not get it that this family |
mopinko |
Nov-23-08 10:36 AM |
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so are you going to explain it to them? |
Kire |
Nov-24-08 07:36 AM |
#145 |
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He needs to go..... |
stillcool47 |
Nov-21-08 10:57 PM |
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whoops! |
stillcool47 |
Nov-21-08 10:58 PM |
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Could a Guardian Ad Litem program work in this case? |
young_at_heart |
Nov-21-08 11:13 PM |
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why the hell isn't he in a kids' psych ward |
dwickham |
Nov-21-08 11:17 PM |
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maybe he is |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 06:49 AM |
#123 |
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I have no idea how to help this child. |
Gormy Cuss |
Nov-22-08 12:10 AM |
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What worked for me was elimination of major stressors and meds. |
Sirveri |
Nov-22-08 12:12 AM |
#83 |
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why does the words "might be" always appear |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 06:51 AM |
#125 |
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HIPAA laws do not prevent you from calling authorities |
Ichingcarpenter |
Nov-22-08 12:14 AM |
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Well, if he's laying in the ER, accompanied by 2 cops, I'm assuming that qualifies as |
Beausoir |
Nov-22-08 07:50 AM |
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in most places a police report is mandatory for a suicide attempt. |
mopinko |
Nov-22-08 07:45 PM |
#91 |
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you know what I told mopinko about assuming above in this thread |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 06:52 AM |
#126 |
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You can't. So just let the hospital deal with it, they know what to do. |
anigbrowl |
Nov-22-08 02:42 AM |
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"random person"? |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 06:53 AM |
#127 |
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I don't think there is anything that YOU can do. |
LWolf |
Nov-22-08 09:18 AM |
#88 |
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Why don't you think so? |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 06:54 AM |
#128 |
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Not defeatist; just realistic. |
LWolf |
Nov-23-08 08:58 AM |
#131 |
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it takes a village.. |
Kire |
Nov-24-08 07:35 AM |
#144 |
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You're right. |
LWolf |
Nov-24-08 08:34 AM |
#150 |
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the village can find out who is legally authorized to intervene |
Kire |
Nov-25-08 11:25 AM |
#153 |
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Legally authorized: |
LWolf |
Nov-25-08 11:50 AM |
#154 |
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who else? |
Kire |
Nov-25-08 10:42 PM |
#155 |
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How would DUers know the names of people |
LWolf |
Nov-27-08 08:52 AM |
#156 |
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you adopted five kids "out of poverty?" |
happychatter |
Nov-22-08 08:07 PM |
#94 |
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huh? |
Kire |
Nov-23-08 06:55 AM |
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Nov-23-08 11:21 PM |
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Wow. That is about the ugliest opinion I've ever seen her. |
Midlodemocrat |
Nov-24-08 09:06 AM |
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I'd ask him to tell me who has been hurting him and tell him I'd protect him. |
MrSlayer |
Nov-23-08 06:22 AM |
#118 |
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It's none of your goddamned business! |
skypuddle |
Nov-23-08 06:50 AM |
#124 |
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For our info, a 'related' story: |
elleng |
Nov-23-08 07:32 AM |
#130 |
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oh, please. related how? np |
mopinko |
Nov-23-08 11:08 AM |
#138 |
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mop, |
elleng |
Nov-23-08 06:41 PM |
#140 |
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He needs professional help. Here's what I would do. |
Midlodemocrat |
Nov-24-08 07:43 AM |
#149 |
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get some services involved |
mdmc |
Nov-27-08 08:55 AM |
#157 |
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