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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 09:14 PM
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31. take him off of prozac
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  -How would you help an 11 year old child who is suicidal? Beausoir  Nov-21-08 08:39 PM   #0 
  - Get them professional help...  KC2   Nov-21-08 08:41 PM   #1 
  - How am I supposed to get "them" professional help?  Beausoir   Nov-21-08 08:42 PM   #2 
     - hmmm sad.  themartyred   Nov-21-08 08:46 PM   #4 
  - Take him under your wing and give the child all the support you can.  Double T   Nov-21-08 08:43 PM   #3 
  - I can't even get close to the child due to Hippa.  Beausoir   Nov-21-08 08:49 PM   #6 
     - due to Hippa?  Kire   Nov-23-08 05:16 AM   #99 
  - Chances are he has been referred for help through PS at this stage.  MichiganVote   Nov-21-08 08:49 PM   # 
  - Do you know his family or is your son friends with him?  MPK   Nov-21-08 08:49 PM   #5 
  - You are exactly correct.  Beausoir   Nov-21-08 08:51 PM   #7 
     - I guess I would try to think of a way to be supportive when he gets out.  MPK   Nov-21-08 08:57 PM   #12 
     - It's very sad  Dorian Gray   Nov-21-08 09:42 PM   #43 
     - I agree with what MPK said  wildflower   Nov-21-08 10:31 PM   #59 
        - I'm a mentor.... he could be persuaded to sign up for a mentor program  Cronus Protagonist   Nov-21-08 11:21 PM   #80 
  - That's a hard one.  Cleita   Nov-21-08 08:54 PM   #8 
  - you are seriously misunderstanding the situation.  mopinko   Nov-21-08 09:34 PM   #40 
     - Whoa.  wtmusic   Nov-21-08 10:10 PM   #47 
     - and it is a giant leap to assume abuse.  mopinko   Nov-21-08 10:22 PM   #54 
        - Who's assuming?  wtmusic   Nov-21-08 10:28 PM   #58 
        - and some kids brains just go on the fritz.  mopinko   Nov-21-08 10:34 PM   #61 
           - Hence his suggestion was to find out whats wrong  RedCappedBandit   Nov-22-08 09:22 AM   #89 
           - lynch mob?  Kire   Nov-23-08 05:23 AM   #102 
        - Mental illness can arise from different factors.  amitten   Nov-21-08 10:57 PM   #66 
        - This seems very personal with you. n/t  Cleita   Nov-21-08 11:21 PM   #79 
        - yup, it is. been there done that.  mopinko   Nov-22-08 07:43 PM   #90 
           - why is it so obvious...  Kire   Nov-23-08 05:26 AM   #103 
           - maybe he wasn't raped or beaten, but neglect IS abuse.  FarceOfNature   Nov-23-08 10:56 AM   #135 
              - maybe they are out of town.  mopinko   Nov-23-08 11:05 AM   #137 
                 - OK, so you leave an 11 YEAR OLD with no emergency contact to go out of town.  FarceOfNature   Nov-23-08 11:22 AM   #139 
        - you seem absolutely sure there is no abuse?  Kire   Nov-23-08 05:21 AM   #101 
           - i'm not sure. but no one else here is either.  mopinko   Nov-23-08 10:33 AM   #132 
              - well good luck working that out  Kire   Nov-24-08 07:39 AM   #148 
     - Maybe I do, but I think most people think a good place to start is  Cleita   Nov-21-08 10:13 PM   #50 
     - 2 trips to the er? he will be evaluated.  mopinko   Nov-21-08 10:25 PM   #56 
        - you made up your mind about that one  Kire   Nov-23-08 05:27 AM   #104 
     - sorry you're stressed, but you're wrong.  tomp   Nov-21-08 11:16 PM   #77 
     - no. assume that i have walked in this families shoes  mopinko   Nov-22-08 07:49 PM   #93 
     - You know what they say what happens when you assume something  Kire   Nov-23-08 05:28 AM   #106 
     - Hear hear!  Kire   Nov-23-08 05:27 AM   #105 
     - "pure bullshit"?  Kire   Nov-23-08 05:19 AM   #100 
  - It takes a village...  GloriaSmith   Nov-21-08 08:55 PM   #9 
  - You could just as easily ask  Warpy   Nov-21-08 09:51 PM   #44 
     - Maybe he'll become a great artist someday....  Kire   Nov-23-08 05:31 AM   #107 
  - "His parents are not 'available' " Does he have a guardian?  ColbertWatcher   Nov-21-08 08:56 PM   #10 
  - This is just a nameless child in my community. There is nothing I can do to help.  Beausoir   Nov-21-08 08:59 PM   #15 
     - If he has had trouble in school the teachers are supposed to do something.  ColbertWatcher   Nov-21-08 09:01 PM   #17 
  - Kick. I know it's a longer read than DU is used to, but this is about kids,  Beausoir   Nov-21-08 08:57 PM   #11 
  - I replied a little more up above.  MPK   Nov-21-08 09:00 PM   #16 
  - here's an interesting article on the subject:  GloriaSmith   Nov-21-08 09:02 PM   #21 
  - Would it be possible to raise funds for the child? Perhaps if he could see  riley3   Nov-21-08 08:57 PM   #13 
  - If the hospital has a psyche department,  elleng   Nov-21-08 08:58 PM   #14 
  - Yes, there is a "Grace Unit". But I doubt it is equipped to handle a suicidal child.  Beausoir   Nov-21-08 09:01 PM   #18 
     - Is there a university nearby with a psychiatry school?  ColbertWatcher   Nov-21-08 09:03 PM   #22 
     - Gosh no. This is the tundra up here. Nearest reputable college is 2 1/2 hours away by car.  Beausoir   Nov-21-08 09:06 PM   #26 
        - Tundra as in Alaska?  elleng   Nov-21-08 09:12 PM   #30 
        - Ugh. How about student activities? Is there a teen center?  ColbertWatcher   Nov-21-08 09:16 PM   #33 
     - I sent your post to my daughters,  elleng   Nov-21-08 09:11 PM   #29 
     - I vote to have your kid Secretary of HHS instead of Daschle. n/t  ColbertWatcher   Nov-21-08 09:17 PM   #34 
     - THANKS for that, 'Watcher!  elleng   Nov-21-08 10:27 PM   #57 
     - Great, informative post.  Beausoir   Nov-21-08 09:18 PM   #35 
        - Thanks.  elleng   Nov-21-08 09:35 PM   #41 
     - maybe this is not about him. maybe it is about you.  mopinko   Nov-22-08 09:32 PM   #98 
        - is that like staring at your belly button?  Kire   Nov-23-08 05:36 AM   #108 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-23-08 11:27 PM   #142 
  - Questions  snot   Nov-21-08 09:02 PM   #19 
  - Answers: He talked to his classmates. He told them he was suicidal. He ran away from school into  Beausoir   Nov-21-08 10:57 PM   #68 
     - I think snot would like to know what the content of the suicidal thoughts were  Kire   Nov-23-08 05:38 AM   #109 
  - Your options are quite limited due to HIPAA....  OhioChick   Nov-21-08 09:02 PM   #20 
  - Yep. There is really nothing that I can do.  Beausoir   Nov-21-08 09:05 PM   #23 
  - wow. that poor kid!  OhioBlue   Nov-21-08 09:05 PM   #24 
  - I don't understand what you mean by his parents aren't available  OurVotesCount-Ohio   Nov-21-08 09:06 PM   #25 
  - good questions  Kire   Nov-23-08 05:39 AM   #110 
  - Amino acids got me back in the land of the living  cpamomfromtexas   Nov-21-08 09:07 PM   #27 
  - A child with suicidal ideations...  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Nov-21-08 09:09 PM   #28 
  - Yes, there is nothing I can do. I just have to watch as a young child evaporates.  Beausoir   Nov-21-08 09:15 PM   #32 
  - Not really.  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Nov-22-08 09:02 AM   #87 
  - this country is great  Kire   Nov-23-08 05:40 AM   #111 
  - My experiences with NAMI are that they are very good if the problem is schizophrenia or bi polar  amandabeech   Nov-21-08 11:08 PM   #74 
  - take him off of prozac  soothsayer   Nov-21-08 09:14 PM   #31 
  - you know that there was a huge spike in adolescent suicides  mopinko   Nov-21-08 09:38 PM   #42 
     - I didn't know that  Kire   Nov-23-08 05:41 AM   #112 
  - I once had to deal with a suicidal 6 year old.  readmoreoften   Nov-21-08 09:27 PM   #36 
  - i don't understand what you mean by the parents not being available  JI7   Nov-21-08 09:27 PM   #37 
  - Post 23 she says the parents are not in the picture but no mention of who is raising the child.  OurVotesCount-Ohio   Nov-21-08 10:25 PM   #55 
  - don't assume anything. there may be no real world triggers for this kid.  mopinko   Nov-21-08 09:28 PM   #38 
  - "no real world triggers"  Kire   Nov-23-08 05:43 AM   #113 
  - fuck the rules, make a stink  Kali   Nov-21-08 09:30 PM   #39 
  - You have to do it. Only you.  Hermes Daughter   Nov-21-08 10:46 PM   #63 
  - "Yes you can!"  Kire   Nov-23-08 05:45 AM   #115 
  - If I had a fork and a glass  Kire   Nov-23-08 05:44 AM   #114 
  - Aside from prof help, he needs to be tested for allergies of all kinds....  Sarah Ibarruri   Nov-21-08 09:54 PM   #45 
  - I am sorry to ask such a stupid question  Tumbulu   Nov-21-08 10:09 PM   #46 
  - laws that pertain to health care professionals. period.  mopinko   Nov-21-08 10:13 PM   #49 
  - you say the words "no" and "nothing" a lot  Kire   Nov-23-08 05:46 AM   #116 
  - HIPAA  OhioChick   Nov-21-08 10:13 PM   #51 
  - Laws involving medical information  haruka3_2000   Nov-21-08 11:05 PM   #73 
  - gack  mopinko   Nov-21-08 10:10 PM   #48 
  - His parents are unable to parent. He lives with them but they are unable to be parents.  Beausoir   Nov-21-08 11:02 PM   #71 
  - His parents never showed up? Who did the hospital release him to?  OurVotesCount-Ohio   Nov-21-08 11:11 PM   #75 
  - says who?  mopinko   Nov-22-08 08:38 PM   #95 
     - says the grand inquisitor  Kire   Nov-23-08 06:43 AM   #119 
  - This whole country is steeped in a sick pop psychology  antfarm   Nov-21-08 11:49 PM   #81 
  - thank you.  mopinko   Nov-22-08 08:39 PM   #96 
  - someone needs to take her own advice  Kire   Nov-23-08 05:48 AM   #117 
  - i think i have openly discussed my reasons for posting what i have posted.  mopinko   Nov-23-08 10:39 AM   #134 
     - you think you openly discussed it?  Kire   Nov-24-08 07:38 AM   #147 
  - Sometimes mom doesn't give a crap  shrike   Nov-24-08 09:25 AM   #152 
  - and the sad truth is- nothing is guaranteed to help this kid.  mopinko   Nov-21-08 10:17 PM   #52 
  - are you not judging  Kire   Nov-23-08 06:45 AM   #120 
  - If he is a friend of your son  wtmusic   Nov-21-08 10:21 PM   #53 
  - He sounds like he is way past this and needs professional intervention and therapy :^(  GreenPartyVoter   Nov-21-08 10:32 PM   #60 
  - The ER should have handed him off to Psych for evaluation and maybe even a hold  GreenPartyVoter   Nov-21-08 10:37 PM   #62 
  - That is what happened. The ER handed him off.  Beausoir   Nov-21-08 10:51 PM   #64 
     - I don't think I could be a nurse. The suffering would break my heart. That and  GreenPartyVoter   Nov-21-08 11:02 PM   #70 
     - Are you saying he's been placed in the psych unit?  OurVotesCount-Ohio   Nov-21-08 11:04 PM   #72 
     - these nurses should be fired.  mopinko   Nov-22-08 07:47 PM   #92 
        - "blabbing as much as you have divulged here"  Kire   Nov-23-08 06:47 AM   #121 
           - they should not be discussing any patient with anyone.  mopinko   Nov-23-08 11:04 AM   #136 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-23-08 11:33 PM   #143 
              - call out the dogs, then  Kire   Nov-24-08 07:36 AM   #146 
  - Sounds like he needs a Guardian Ad Litem  Dappleganger   Nov-21-08 10:55 PM   #65 
  - having a mentally ill child is not grounds for destroying a family.  mopinko   Nov-22-08 08:41 PM   #97 
     - why are you sorry?  Kire   Nov-23-08 06:48 AM   #122 
        - i am sorry that people here do not get it that this family  mopinko   Nov-23-08 10:36 AM   #133 
           - so are you going to explain it to them?  Kire   Nov-24-08 07:36 AM   #145 
  - He needs to go.....  stillcool47   Nov-21-08 10:57 PM   #67 
  - whoops!  stillcool47   Nov-21-08 10:58 PM   #69 
  - Could a Guardian Ad Litem program work in this case?  young_at_heart   Nov-21-08 11:13 PM   #76 
  - why the hell isn't he in a kids' psych ward  dwickham   Nov-21-08 11:17 PM   #78 
  - maybe he is  Kire   Nov-23-08 06:49 AM   #123 
  - I have no idea how to help this child.  Gormy Cuss   Nov-22-08 12:10 AM   #82 
  - What worked for me was elimination of major stressors and meds.  Sirveri   Nov-22-08 12:12 AM   #83 
  - why does the words "might be" always appear  Kire   Nov-23-08 06:51 AM   #125 
  - HIPAA laws do not prevent you from calling authorities  Ichingcarpenter   Nov-22-08 12:14 AM   #84 
  - Well, if he's laying in the ER, accompanied by 2 cops, I'm assuming that qualifies as  Beausoir   Nov-22-08 07:50 AM   #86 
     - in most places a police report is mandatory for a suicide attempt.  mopinko   Nov-22-08 07:45 PM   #91 
     - you know what I told mopinko about assuming above in this thread  Kire   Nov-23-08 06:52 AM   #126 
  - You can't. So just let the hospital deal with it, they know what to do.  anigbrowl   Nov-22-08 02:42 AM   #85 
  - "random person"?  Kire   Nov-23-08 06:53 AM   #127 
  - I don't think there is anything that YOU can do.  LWolf   Nov-22-08 09:18 AM   #88 
  - Why don't you think so?  Kire   Nov-23-08 06:54 AM   #128 
     - Not defeatist; just realistic.  LWolf   Nov-23-08 08:58 AM   #131 
        - it takes a village..  Kire   Nov-24-08 07:35 AM   #144 
           - You're right.  LWolf   Nov-24-08 08:34 AM   #150 
              - the village can find out who is legally authorized to intervene  Kire   Nov-25-08 11:25 AM   #153 
                 - Legally authorized:  LWolf   Nov-25-08 11:50 AM   #154 
                    - who else?  Kire   Nov-25-08 10:42 PM   #155 
                       - How would DUers know the names of people  LWolf   Nov-27-08 08:52 AM   #156 
  - you adopted five kids "out of poverty?"  happychatter   Nov-22-08 08:07 PM   #94 
  - huh?  Kire   Nov-23-08 06:55 AM   #129 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-23-08 11:21 PM   #141 
  - Wow. That is about the ugliest opinion I've ever seen her.  Midlodemocrat   Nov-24-08 09:06 AM   #151 
  - I'd ask him to tell me who has been hurting him and tell him I'd protect him.  MrSlayer   Nov-23-08 06:22 AM   #118 
  - It's none of your goddamned business!  skypuddle   Nov-23-08 06:50 AM   #124 
  - For our info, a 'related' story:  elleng   Nov-23-08 07:32 AM   #130 
  - oh, please. related how? np  mopinko   Nov-23-08 11:08 AM   #138 
     - mop,  elleng   Nov-23-08 06:41 PM   #140 
  - He needs professional help. Here's what I would do.  Midlodemocrat   Nov-24-08 07:43 AM   #149 
  - get some services involved  mdmc   Nov-27-08 08:55 AM   #157 
 

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