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Matt_in_STL Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 09:24 AM
Response to Reply #66
69. How does it exclude?
Gays and lesbians still do have access to the site and they do still have the opportunity to partake in the services offered. If the services offered are not the services they are looking for, there are other stores that offer the products they are looking for. How is this different than any other products or services offered? The site does not say that they exclude gays or lesbians, as far as I know, but that they do not offer the services that cater to gays and lesbians.
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  -I DO know I AGREE with forcing eHarmony to match gay couples Truth Teller  Nov-21-08 08:02 AM   #0 
  - Yea, okay but E-Harmony is still a pimp site  leftofcool   Nov-21-08 08:03 AM   #1 
  - Hey now!  kimmylavin   Nov-21-08 10:20 AM   #119 
  - I agree. It seems eHarmony doesn't want everybody to be happy. nt  zanne   Nov-21-08 08:04 AM   #2 
  - Like everything else, the world is made up of all types.  HypnoToad   Nov-21-08 11:37 AM   #196 
  - Yeah, it was kind of suprising that there even needed to be a debate......  marmar   Nov-21-08 08:04 AM   #3 
  - Some people just need to be FORCED to serve.  blurp   Nov-21-08 10:59 AM   #156 
  - you haven't been here long if you're surprised at the anti-gay attitude that can be displayed at DU.  IndianaJones   Nov-21-08 08:09 AM   #4 
  - Then urge the DLC to dump Ford  Truth Teller   Nov-21-08 08:18 AM   #9 
     - I have no influence over the DLC...and if we urged dumping anti-gay Democratic politicians...  IndianaJones   Nov-21-08 08:20 AM   #11 
     - You're sporting their avatar  Truth Teller   Nov-21-08 08:23 AM   #13 
        - I think we all swallow a lot of shortcomings from the politicians that make up the Democratic party.  IndianaJones   Nov-21-08 08:33 AM   #30 
           - I think it's legitimate to change  Truth Teller   Nov-21-08 08:40 AM   #34 
              - Byrd hasn't changed, but that is a worn out discussion. nt  IndianaJones   Nov-21-08 08:46 AM   #40 
     - Ford? What about GM?  greguganus   Nov-21-08 08:24 AM   #15 
        - Harold Ford  Truth Teller   Nov-21-08 08:26 AM   #19 
           - Pulling your chain. n/t  greguganus   Nov-21-08 08:45 AM   #38 
              - DOH! n/t  Truth Teller   Nov-21-08 08:49 AM   #42 
  - I Don't Think They Should Be Forced To Put The Option,  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Nov-21-08 08:13 AM   #5 
  - Vegans are not a class. African Americans, Jews, gays are.  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 08:16 AM   #7 
  - You can't change them. That's just how some people are.  BlooInBloo   Nov-21-08 08:21 AM   #12 
  - I'm Aware Of That.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Nov-21-08 08:28 AM   #23 
     - You're kind of splitting hairs  Truth Teller   Nov-21-08 08:30 AM   #26 
        - Agreed. There is explicit discrimination and then implicit discrimination. NT  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 08:32 AM   #29 
        - I'm Providing You With My Technical Side Of The Argument.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Nov-21-08 08:35 AM   #31 
           - Same sex matching isn't really a different service. That's the crux of their problem with  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 08:36 AM   #32 
              - But It Is.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Nov-21-08 08:43 AM   #36 
                 - The difference is modest. But I'm happy for the matter to be settled legally, if the  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 08:46 AM   #39 
                 - What if the "specific offering" was Caucasian date matching?  Truth Teller   Nov-21-08 08:47 AM   #41 
                    - I Was Just Going Through That Logical Stream In My Head.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Nov-21-08 08:52 AM   #44 
                       - I think the problem may be that you are looking for an absolute standard.  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 08:57 AM   #46 
                          - I've Actually Changed My Position Now. I Agree With The Decision. Here's Why:  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Nov-21-08 09:12 AM   #60 
                             - Kudos on thoughtful posts by you and Joe  Truth Teller   Nov-21-08 03:45 PM   #221 
  - The problem with the vegan analogy  ObamaVision   Nov-21-08 08:58 AM   #49 
  - Yeah, but the problem with the whole lunch counter analogy is that at a dating service customers...  JVS   Nov-21-08 09:18 AM   #65 
  - But on this dating menu  ObamaVision   Nov-21-08 10:03 AM   #104 
  - Which is hard to do anyway; even vegetables are grown with animal byproducts.  HypnoToad   Nov-21-08 11:37 AM   #193 
  - Interesting view of the subject.  sinecure62   Nov-21-08 10:10 AM   #111 
  - Your headline is a bit off or is it? Do you agree or do you not?  trumad   Nov-21-08 08:15 AM   #6 
  - eHarmony should be forced to serve gays IMO  Truth Teller   Nov-21-08 08:25 AM   #16 
  - Tell me about it -  LostinVA   Nov-21-08 08:16 AM   #8 
  - Join the disappointment club Truth Teller  cboy4   Nov-21-08 08:19 AM   #10 
  - HA!  Truth Teller   Nov-21-08 08:23 AM   #14 
     - LOL. We need one, ha.  cboy4   Nov-21-08 08:31 AM   #28 
  - Oh yeah? Next you'll tell me you're for forcing country clubs to allow Jews to be  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 08:25 AM   #17 
  - I'm radical that way  Truth Teller   Nov-21-08 08:26 AM   #22 
  - Should DU be forced to allow freepers?  ByTheRiver   Nov-21-08 08:25 AM   #18 
  - Freepers are not a class. NT  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 08:26 AM   #20 
  - You have to be frigging kidding me  LostinVA   Nov-21-08 08:29 AM   #24 
  - Or on a similar note, should gay matchmaking sites be forced to allow heterosexuals?  EOTE   Nov-21-08 03:48 PM   #222 
  - One would think that's a no-brainer.  terrya   Nov-21-08 08:26 AM   #21 
  - What Skinner says about issues like this --  LostinVA   Nov-21-08 08:29 AM   #25 
  - Strong stuff  Truth Teller   Nov-21-08 08:30 AM   #27 
     - Agreed  LostinVA   Nov-21-08 08:36 AM   #33 
        - Seems Like A Well, Duh!  ProfessorGAC   Nov-21-08 08:42 AM   #35 
           - Four recs on the other thread  Truth Teller   Nov-21-08 08:44 AM   #37 
              - Well, That's No Good  ProfessorGAC   Nov-21-08 08:49 AM   #43 
              - I saw that -- as well as people admitting "Whites Only" stuff is okay  LostinVA   Nov-21-08 08:55 AM   #45 
                 - Well, I Hid That Thread  ProfessorGAC   Nov-21-08 08:57 AM   #47 
                 - It was very strange  LostinVA   Nov-21-08 08:58 AM   #50 
                 - Tell me you're kidding  Truth Teller   Nov-21-08 03:48 PM   #223 
  - I also agree!  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 08:57 AM   #48 
  - Start as soon as you like. NT  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 08:59 AM   #51 
  - Where's the outrage though?  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 09:02 AM   #53 
     - If you have a legal case, make it. NT  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 09:03 AM   #54 
     - Honestly  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 09:11 AM   #58 
        - Well, when you have a serious question, post it. NT  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 09:12 AM   #59 
           - The serious question  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 09:15 AM   #63 
              - My serious answer: It is legitimate to set up a business to cater to an interest, but  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 09:19 AM   #66 
                 - How does it exclude?  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 09:24 AM   #69 
                 - The question then would be, is the service genuinely separate or not.  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 09:27 AM   #73 
                 - Read This And See If It Changes Your Mind:  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Nov-21-08 09:30 AM   #76 
                    - Okay  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 09:44 AM   #86 
                    - It is an interesting mental exercise to take this out to the physical world.  Realityhack   Nov-21-08 11:50 AM   #204 
                 - Wouldn't the 'interest' in this case be...  Realityhack   Nov-21-08 11:40 AM   #200 
                    - I would say that excludes a class of people on an artificial basis.  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 11:50 AM   #203 
                       - What if the interest base was say... one religion?  Realityhack   Nov-21-08 11:51 AM   #206 
                          - Fine. Catholic it is. Still can't exclude a class of people.  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 11:55 AM   #210 
                             - Ok.  Realityhack   Nov-21-08 12:08 PM   #214 
                             - I have another question  Realityhack   Nov-21-08 02:23 PM   #219 
                                - I'm not certain.  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 03:07 PM   #220 
                                   - Good point.  Realityhack   Nov-21-08 05:04 PM   #227 
                                   - BTW thanks...  Realityhack   Nov-21-08 05:05 PM   #228 
                                      - Back at you.  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 05:13 PM   #230 
     - Ummm, Do You Not Notice On That Site That You Can Choose Man Seeking Woman?  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Nov-21-08 09:16 AM   #64 
        - Yes, it was a fail  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 09:22 AM   #67 
           - The precedent is already well established.  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 09:24 AM   #68 
           - Then the big question is....  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 09:26 AM   #72 
           - There's a difference.  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 09:29 AM   # 
              - With that mindset though...  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 09:51 AM   #93 
                 - That's the legal question. Is it a different service, or an arbitrary difference to discriminate.  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 09:54 AM   #95 
                    - That is where I see that fine line  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 09:57 AM   #98 
                       - I think both examples are off base. Here's why:  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 10:01 AM   #101 
                          - But that is my point  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 10:04 AM   #106 
                             - I think the point/question is actually this:  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 10:08 AM   #109 
                                - That, I do not know  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 10:12 AM   #114 
                                   - Hence a suitable case for court if anyone cares enough to take it there. NT  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 10:13 AM   #115 
           - Now there is an interesting example.  Realityhack   Nov-21-08 11:54 AM   #209 
           - You Fail Again.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Nov-21-08 09:28 AM   #74 
           - You're confusing two separate things.  yardwork   Nov-21-08 10:35 AM   #128 
              - How are they excluded?  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 10:40 AM   #133 
  - NIce -- you should start an OP on this in the GLBT Forum  LostinVA   Nov-21-08 09:07 AM   #56 
  - Really?  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 09:13 AM   #61 
     - You are aware of what you are doing -- as are 99% of the rest of us  LostinVA   Nov-21-08 09:25 AM   #71 
        - What I am doing  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 09:30 AM   #77 
           - I am under the impression that they were  MattBaggins   Nov-21-08 10:02 AM   #103 
           - That would be discriminatory if...  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 10:07 AM   #108 
           - I'm totally with you on this one.  snake in the grass   Nov-21-08 10:39 AM   #131 
  - you're one of those people that complain about the United Negro College Fund too, huh? nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-21-08 09:24 AM   #70 
  - Not at all  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 09:35 AM   #80 
     - gays are a sizeable minority group, not a club or a society. nt  IndianaJones   Nov-21-08 09:44 AM   #85 
     - I understand that  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 09:48 AM   #91 
        - so to be consistent, you would support them if they did not match interracial straight couples? nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-21-08 09:56 AM   #97 
           - While I would not agree with that stance  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 10:02 AM   #102 
              - So your stance is that a business could refuse to sell to blacks as long as they let them look at  IndianaJones   Nov-21-08 10:06 AM   #107 
                 - No  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 10:08 AM   #110 
                    - How about if they set up barriers to use based on how.... straight a person's hair is?  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 10:10 AM   #112 
                       - Really  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 10:15 AM   #117 
                          - I think you're missing something.  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 10:19 AM   #118 
                             - Again, who is being excluded?  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 10:23 AM   #121 
                                - I'll say this one last time. If the service is the same but they have structured  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 11:34 AM   #189 
     - Stop looking at the single restauraunt idea  MattBaggins   Nov-21-08 10:10 AM   #113 
     - With that example  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 10:20 AM   #120 
        - I am not an expert on eharmony but  MattBaggins   Nov-21-08 10:35 AM   #127 
           - Now this is correct  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 10:38 AM   #130 
              - And if a court told the local mall  MattBaggins   Nov-21-08 10:44 AM   #137 
                 - It isn't about the mall  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 10:55 AM   #149 
                    - Eharmony isn't the restaurant  MattBaggins   Nov-21-08 11:36 AM   #191 
     - Nobody is telling anybody that they have to offer services to everyone.  yardwork   Nov-21-08 10:37 AM   #129 
        - No, that is not a misunderstanding  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 10:43 AM   #136 
           - eHarmony was not offering their services to everyone. They excluded gay people.  yardwork   Nov-21-08 11:11 AM   #170 
  - Nobody is excluded from gay matchmaker. You are welcome to use their service.  yardwork   Nov-21-08 10:33 AM   #125 
  - Would you want a vegitarian to prepare your steak?  baldguy   Nov-21-08 09:01 AM   #52 
  - Is that your justification for illegal discrimination?  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 09:03 AM   #55 
  - Did the IQ level of this place suddenly drop 20 pts?  baldguy   Nov-21-08 01:16 PM   #218 
     - Whether the service will fail or not is irrelevant.  mondo joe   Nov-22-08 12:15 AM   #233 
  - ?????  LostinVA   Nov-21-08 09:08 AM   #57 
  - This is not relevant  gollygee   Nov-21-08 09:14 AM   #62 
  - This is relevant to the conversation how? And learn how to spell vegetarian. n/t  racaulk   Nov-21-08 09:43 AM   #84 
  - Yes, I believe that progressives should all be in agreement on all major things.  elocs   Nov-21-08 09:29 AM   #75 
  - I think equal rights for all is a fair litmus test for progressives, personally. NT  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 09:32 AM   #78 
  - support for bigotry and discrimination should be the rallying cry of all progressives! woo hoo! nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-21-08 09:32 AM   #79 
     - What was not equal?  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 09:37 AM   #81 
        - If the services are set up arbitrarily with the intent of excluding a class of people  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 09:39 AM   #82 
        - the services they wanted? how about the same services as everyone else? "special rights" crap. nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-21-08 09:48 AM   #90 
        - I'm sorry  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 09:58 AM   #99 
           - That is correct. They were not offered any services at all. They were booted off the site.  yardwork   Nov-21-08 10:56 AM   #152 
              - Then the solution should be  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 11:00 AM   #158 
        - Gays and lesbians are not allowed to access the site. That's the point.  yardwork   Nov-21-08 10:40 AM   #132 
           - That is what I have been asking all morning  Matt_in_STL   Nov-21-08 10:45 AM   #138 
              - Now you get it!  yardwork   Nov-21-08 10:49 AM   #142 
  - And gay sites should be forced to allow straight matches?  jakem   Nov-21-08 09:40 AM   #83 
  - and the NAACP should be forced to advocate for whites. nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-21-08 09:45 AM   #87 
  - Actually, the NAACP is supporting the overturn of Prop 8  nichomachus   Nov-21-08 09:47 AM   #89 
  - were they forced? and the UNCF should be forced to offer finacial assistance to whites. nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-21-08 09:49 AM   #92 
     - You're making yourself more ridiculous with every "gotcha" attempt --but enjoy yourself  nichomachus   Nov-21-08 10:49 AM   #141 
     - The UNCF would offer financial assistance to whites! You are ignorant  SweetieD   Nov-21-08 10:51 AM   #144 
  - What they advocate for is up to the organization. The proper analogy would be  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 09:55 AM   #96 
     - just trying to show the idiocy of the "gays sites should allow straight matches" argument..  IndianaJones   Nov-21-08 09:59 AM   #100 
  - Sure -- why not? I don't have any problem with it.  nichomachus   Nov-21-08 09:46 AM   #88 
     - i dont have a problem with it, but not sure i see the point.  jakem   Nov-21-08 09:53 AM   #94 
  - Ok, so make all the gay dating sites accept streight couples now. I think this is dumb  no limit   Nov-21-08 10:03 AM   #105 
  - Remember the brave kids from NC A&T in Greensboro?  LostinVA   Nov-21-08 10:15 AM   #116 
     - No, can you explain?  no limit   Nov-21-08 10:31 AM   #123 
        - Then shame on you  LostinVA   Nov-21-08 10:54 AM   #146 
           - thanks for the lively discussion, much appreciated  no limit   Nov-21-08 11:01 AM   #159 
              - You shouldn't discuss civil rights if you're ignorant of civil rights  LostinVA   Nov-21-08 11:08 AM   #166 
                 - No, apparently people have no right to have any kind of discussion with you  no limit   Nov-21-08 11:10 AM   #169 
                    - I love to have discussions and debates on here  LostinVA   Nov-21-08 11:24 AM   #178 
                       - yet you dont seem like you are the type of person that would be good in these discussions  no limit   Nov-21-08 11:29 AM   #185 
  - Thank you. Some DUers seem to be unfamiliar with many laws.  yardwork   Nov-21-08 10:29 AM   #122 
  - So all the gay dating sites need to allow everyone on their site, right?  no limit   Nov-21-08 10:32 AM   #124 
  - I don't know of any gay dating site that discriminates against straight people.  yardwork   Nov-21-08 10:43 AM   #135 
     - I'm on a work computer and don't feel like searching gay sites right now  no limit   Nov-21-08 10:47 AM   #140 
        - Not that I know about. There are lots of sites that offer same-sex dating services  yardwork   Nov-21-08 10:52 AM   #145 
        - So lets say you are a gay male and want to use eharmony to hook up with a straight female  no limit   Nov-21-08 10:56 AM   #151 
           - Now you get it. Nobody is forcing any business to offer specific services.  yardwork   Nov-21-08 11:00 AM   #157 
              - In that case my apologies, I should have done a bit more research on my part  no limit   Nov-21-08 11:02 AM   #161 
              - You're welcome.  yardwork   Nov-21-08 11:04 AM   #163 
              - Excellent post.  Realityhack   Nov-21-08 12:07 PM   #213 
              - This Gives Credence to the "Kinsean Theory"  fascisthunter   Nov-22-08 11:08 AM   #237 
        - Why would you get weird looks?  LostinVA   Nov-21-08 10:55 AM   #147 
           - lol, you can't be serious.  no limit   Nov-21-08 10:59 AM   #155 
              - No, I am serious -- why would the "weird looks" bother you???  LostinVA   Nov-21-08 11:26 AM   #181 
                 - it would bother me because I don't like people at work making assumptions about my personal life  no limit   Nov-21-08 11:33 AM   #187 
                    - No, I think you did that all yourself  LostinVA   Nov-21-08 11:34 AM   #188 
                       - You are doing a real disservice  no limit   Nov-21-08 11:38 AM   #197 
  - You are wrong, at least as far as federal law.  SweetieD   Nov-21-08 10:56 AM   #150 
  - Thanks for reminding everybody that gay people have no rights or protections.  yardwork   Nov-21-08 11:03 AM   #162 
     - Yup and yup  LostinVA   Nov-21-08 11:27 AM   #182 
     - What? Don't make a value judgment against me.  SweetieD   Nov-21-08 01:08 PM   #217 
  - You can't frame away the question that easily.  Realityhack   Nov-21-08 12:03 PM   #212 
  - Who wants e-harmony? You have to believe in God to join. Don't you?  robinlynne   Nov-21-08 10:34 AM   #126 
  - I don't think I've seen a single relevant analogy on either side of this  Qibing Zero   Nov-21-08 10:41 AM   #134 
  - You don't get it. Any business can refuse to serve individuals.  yardwork   Nov-21-08 10:45 AM   #139 
  - You're nitpicking my example. I'll fix it for you.  Qibing Zero   Nov-21-08 10:51 AM   #143 
     - I'm not nitpicking your example, and your follow-up is not the same thing.  yardwork   Nov-21-08 10:55 AM   #148 
     - The old "special rights" argument -- di you catch that?  LostinVA   Nov-21-08 11:09 AM   #168 
     - Explain how they wouldn't be able to provide the service based on height.  Qibing Zero   Nov-21-08 11:12 AM   #172 
        - There isn't a height based class of persons. nt  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 11:56 AM   #211 
     - Not the same thing at all, but you know that already  LostinVA   Nov-21-08 10:57 AM   #154 
  - So, now equal civil rights - a tailor?????  LostinVA   Nov-21-08 10:56 AM   #153 
  - I'm sorry, do differently shaped people not deserve rights as well?  Qibing Zero   Nov-21-08 11:16 AM   #174 
     - You really are a tool  LostinVA   Nov-21-08 11:25 AM   #180 
     - Yes, I'm the tool.  Qibing Zero   Nov-21-08 11:37 AM   #194 
     - Gay people are a class. There is no class of shaped persons. nt  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 11:39 AM   #198 
  - You need to learn the difference between a person and a class,.  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 11:37 AM   #195 
     - Responding to your horde of no-text comments here  Qibing Zero   Nov-21-08 12:17 PM   #215 
        - Disabled persons are a class.  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 12:56 PM   #216 
  - You're getting lost in legalities. eharmony is being unfair.  lelgt60   Nov-21-08 11:01 AM   #160 
  - EHarmony is a fundamentalist Christian matching service.  undeterred   Nov-21-08 11:05 AM   #164 
  - I've seen a slew of ads and I've never seen them say that  gollygee   Nov-21-08 03:58 PM   #226 
     - They don't say it but that's what I've heard-  undeterred   Nov-22-08 12:40 AM   #235 
  - What about Christian or Muslim dating sites?  Paint It Black   Nov-21-08 11:07 AM   #165 
  - Make them illegal. All must be included.  blurp   Nov-21-08 11:13 AM   #173 
  - If only we could take it even further than that  Paint It Black   Nov-21-08 11:20 AM   #176 
     - How many religions would survive under that argument?  Qibing Zero   Nov-21-08 11:25 AM   #179 
  - We're all over the place here  Qibing Zero   Nov-21-08 11:19 AM   #175 
  - Do you think that a fundie Christian or Muslim dating site is going to allow gays?  Paint It Black   Nov-21-08 11:22 AM   #177 
     - Continuing down that line  Qibing Zero   Nov-21-08 11:31 AM   #186 
  - That wouldn't bother me  gollygee   Nov-21-08 03:55 PM   #225 
  - I am with you on this.  KitchenWitch   Nov-21-08 11:09 AM   #167 
  - 99% I'm right on board...and I was devastated by Prop 8...  newtothegame   Nov-21-08 11:12 AM   #171 
  - You can't have Whites Only restaurants -- same thing  LostinVA   Nov-21-08 11:28 AM   #184 
  - Website owners are publishers. A better analogy would be...  Eric J in MN   Nov-21-08 11:28 AM   #183 
  - It's a business, no different than a brick and mortar -- it's NOT a publisher at all  LostinVA   Nov-21-08 11:35 AM   #190 
  - Their business is to print words and photos on the internet.  Eric J in MN   Nov-21-08 11:42 AM   #201 
     - Incorrect. Their business is matchmaking. The website is a tool to facilitate  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 11:52 AM   #208 
        - Do they get paid by the match or by the publish?  Realityhack   Nov-21-08 05:09 PM   #229 
           - They get paid by the attempt to match.  gollygee   Nov-21-08 05:14 PM   #231 
           - Not similar. In the case of personal ads, the publisher just puts the ads out  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 05:22 PM   #232 
  - False. The website provides a service, but is selectively deciding a class of people  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 11:36 AM   #192 
  - No, they are not publishers. They sell a dating service.  gollygee   Nov-21-08 03:48 PM   #224 
  - eHarmony is run by a guy who's buddies with James Dobson.  Alter Ego   Nov-21-08 11:40 AM   #199 
  - Freedom of the press isn't just for people we agree with. NT  Eric J in MN   Nov-21-08 11:48 AM   #202 
     - I know that--that's why you'll never get eHarmony to match gay folks.  Alter Ego   Nov-21-08 11:50 AM   #205 
     - Wholly unrelated to freedom of the press. Neither Dobson nor eHarmony are "the press".  mondo joe   Nov-21-08 11:51 AM   #207 
  - Should gay dating sites then be forced  liberalhistorian   Nov-22-08 12:31 AM   #234 
     - I don't know of any gay dating sites  ObamaVision   Nov-22-08 10:50 AM   #236 
        - Interesting question.  Realityhack   Nov-22-08 03:50 PM   #238 
 

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