| 137. Thanks but I understand the physics, but my point is that GM and Ford designed and built vehicles |
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that were prone to rolling over and sold them as safe for mom to take the kids to soccer practice. The SUV's (or I call them ROV's, you figure it out) are killing people. In situations where regular cars could maneuver out of an unexpected situation with no consequences, these ROV's become out of control and many times roll over. Detroit built cars that are inherently dangerous. They knew it, their engineers told then of the dangers, yet they could only see the dollar signs. Don't bail them out.
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| -I'm tired of hearing that Detroit only built crappy cars that no one bought. |
Atman |
Nov-16-08 10:40 AM |
#0 |
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i have a cobalt |
scarface2004 |
Nov-16-08 10:42 AM |
#1 |
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I really like the cobalt too. I try to get one every time I rent. |
gristy |
Nov-16-08 10:51 AM |
#8 |
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Thanks for buying a Cobalt |
monktonman |
Nov-16-08 11:33 AM |
#35 |
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I'd buy a Cobalt, too... |
KansDem |
Nov-17-08 09:06 AM |
#121 |
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Might get a Cobalt SS Supercharged as my next ride. |
EOTE |
Nov-17-08 11:53 AM |
#133 |
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They make a turbocharged Cobalt now. |
CRF450 |
Nov-17-08 05:23 PM |
#146 |
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I saw that. |
EOTE |
Nov-18-08 11:27 AM |
#181 |
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That kind of thinking is why we're running out of oil |
hogwyld |
Nov-17-08 05:27 PM |
#147 |
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High powered engines are way way more effecient than they were 30 years. |
CRF450 |
Nov-17-08 05:52 PM |
#154 |
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Still gets about the same fuel economy as the Civic SI. |
EOTE |
Nov-18-08 11:28 AM |
#182 |
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Not to mention, forced induction can make an egine more effecient. |
CRF450 |
Nov-18-08 03:08 PM |
#199 |
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And there is something to be said for torque as well. |
EOTE |
Nov-18-08 04:09 PM |
#200 |
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Most 4cyl. engines are like that. |
CRF450 |
Nov-18-08 04:28 PM |
#202 |
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Or forced induction. |
EOTE |
Nov-19-08 09:20 AM |
#205 |
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I was impressed by the Cobalt I drove as a rental |
semillama |
Nov-17-08 11:17 AM |
#130 |
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Detroit's financial model is based on selling Stupid Useless Vehicle |
Warren Stupidity |
Nov-16-08 10:45 AM |
#2 |
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"They built crappy cars no one wanted." |
Atman |
Nov-16-08 10:47 AM |
#4 |
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It's kinda like "Nobody goes there anymore because the place is always too crowded..." |
TankLV |
Nov-16-08 11:03 AM |
#18 |
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"and right now nobody is buying them" |
Warren Stupidity |
Nov-16-08 10:49 AM |
#6 |
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No longer true |
SmileyRose |
Nov-16-08 10:56 AM |
#11 |
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The parity is for quality at delivery, not reliability over the lifetime of the vehicle |
FarCenter |
Nov-16-08 11:06 AM |
#21 |
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Cost of ownership. |
SmileyRose |
Nov-16-08 11:32 AM |
#33 |
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A Suburban is not a car |
FarCenter |
Nov-16-08 11:56 AM |
#40 |
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I had an 84 Escort before the Fusion - the Escort is still on the road |
SmileyRose |
Nov-16-08 12:41 PM |
#47 |
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Proper maintenance is the key to long vehicle life. |
greguganus |
Nov-17-08 07:31 AM |
#114 |
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I had a Chevy Nova/Toyota Corolla. Best cheap car ever. |
Atman |
Nov-18-08 09:44 AM |
#177 |
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Exactly. I read "Consumer Reports", not "J D Powers". |
FormerRushFan |
Nov-16-08 12:10 PM |
#45 |
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EXactly |
pending |
Nov-16-08 05:10 PM |
#73 |
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And Yet, Our Experience Is Exactly The Opposite |
ProfessorGAC |
Nov-18-08 09:33 AM |
#174 |
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Guess you've never owned one. |
Kalyke |
Nov-16-08 11:42 PM |
#108 |
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That hasn't been true for a long time. |
quiller4 |
Nov-17-08 05:59 PM |
#158 |
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Consumer Reports stopped automatically recommending Toyota's last year. |
Atman |
Nov-16-08 03:30 PM |
#59 |
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Toyota is jumping the shark |
GoesTo11 |
Nov-17-08 08:17 AM |
#115 |
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I'll remember that next time I pack my SUV up with food for people |
notadmblnd |
Nov-16-08 11:13 AM |
#24 |
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When anyone makes something I can put my upright bass in |
Malidictus Maximus |
Nov-16-08 11:45 AM |
#36 |
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They are beautiful monstrosities aren't they? |
notadmblnd |
Nov-16-08 11:53 AM |
#39 |
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Right now... no one is buying cars from anywhere. |
CANDO |
Nov-16-08 12:07 PM |
#44 |
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Stupid Useless Vehicles......I own an SUV |
carlyhippy |
Nov-17-08 08:51 PM |
#166 |
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They aren't crappy cars. |
Kalyke |
Nov-16-08 10:46 AM |
#3 |
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That's funny -- on a long, long history of manual transmission foreign cars... |
Tesha |
Nov-16-08 01:29 PM |
#54 |
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My family had a Civic SI that practically ate them. |
LeftyMom |
Nov-16-08 03:54 PM |
#65 |
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How many miles? |
JVS |
Nov-16-08 05:25 PM |
#78 |
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Nope. Not that many miles, either, it was pretty much the backup car |
LeftyMom |
Nov-16-08 07:31 PM |
#88 |
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Clutch lifetime in any vehicle is a function of the driver. |
EnviroBat |
Nov-17-08 10:02 AM |
#123 |
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I had a Civic too |
Mystery2Me |
Nov-17-08 08:36 PM |
#164 |
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One clutch replacement in the course of 13 years is neither unusual nor unreasonable |
JVS |
Nov-16-08 05:27 PM |
#79 |
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Then you didn't drive it correctly. |
Kalyke |
Nov-16-08 11:43 PM |
#109 |
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Brakes? No, not so much brakes either. |
Tesha |
Nov-17-08 02:00 PM |
#136 |
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Recommended - fits hand and glove with something I posted earlier |
SmileyRose |
Nov-16-08 10:49 AM |
#5 |
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I'll agree with you there. |
Kalyke |
Nov-16-08 11:45 PM |
#110 |
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"Lost another Billion dollars to DiTech!" n/t |
IanDB1 |
Nov-16-08 10:50 AM |
#7 |
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the big three have been dieing foe decades |
blueknight |
Nov-16-08 10:53 AM |
#10 |
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My last two Fords have been a joy |
POAS |
Nov-16-08 10:51 AM |
#9 |
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I Love Our Focus |
MannyGoldstein |
Nov-16-08 10:56 AM |
#12 |
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My next car may be a Focus. |
Kalyke |
Nov-16-08 11:19 AM |
#27 |
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No Manny, its Mazda's have a lot of Fords in them |
madokie |
Nov-16-08 11:26 AM |
#30 |
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It would have been hard not to improve Jaguar's reliability |
FarCenter |
Nov-16-08 12:02 PM |
#42 |
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My 2001 Focus ZX3 is the best car I've ever had. |
mwb970 |
Nov-16-08 12:07 PM |
#43 |
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We've got the same car... |
whoneedstickets |
Nov-17-08 11:57 PM |
#170 |
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I have a 2008 Focus and LOVE IT! |
Blue Gardener |
Nov-16-08 12:59 PM |
#50 |
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I picked Fusion over Avalon and glad I did |
SmileyRose |
Nov-16-08 11:02 AM |
#16 |
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The Ford Probe is a Mazda |
FarCenter |
Nov-16-08 11:11 AM |
#23 |
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yep...joint venture same as 626 |
POAS |
Nov-16-08 11:23 AM |
#28 |
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Lemme see, my first car was a 1941 Buick, and........ |
suston96 |
Nov-16-08 10:58 AM |
#13 |
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I bought a car last year |
globalvillage |
Nov-16-08 11:00 AM |
#14 |
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Good luck with the Saturn |
FarCenter |
Nov-16-08 11:01 AM |
#15 |
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Wow... |
Atman |
Nov-16-08 03:43 PM |
#62 |
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90's Saturns did/do burn oil. Switching to a heavier oil or a synthetic helps enormously. |
LeftyMom |
Nov-16-08 03:56 PM |
#66 |
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I have a 98 Saturn SW2 |
sherbear |
Nov-16-08 05:36 PM |
#83 |
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On my 3rd Saturn.... |
PatGund |
Nov-16-08 10:51 PM |
#99 |
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Agreed about the SL/SC/SW Saturns. The old ones were a mixed bag, but... |
Thegonagle |
Nov-17-08 05:04 PM |
#143 |
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Are you ready? The Chevy Cobalt everyone raves about upthread is a SATURN |
Atman |
Nov-17-08 05:17 PM |
#144 |
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Yes, the Chevy Cobalt and Saturn Ion are similar designs that share a lot of parts, |
Thegonagle |
Nov-17-08 05:36 PM |
#149 |
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Funny thing is, we weren't talking about the original Saturns. |
Atman |
Nov-17-08 08:20 PM |
#162 |
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I have a Chevy car, and I'm quite happy with it |
fishwax |
Nov-16-08 11:02 AM |
#17 |
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My last american car was a 1990 dodge shadow. |
LWolf |
Nov-16-08 11:04 AM |
#19 |
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One of my friends bought an Aveo(sic?) and that car has cost GM another customer. |
greyhound1966 |
Nov-16-08 11:06 AM |
#20 |
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Yup, the Daewoo Kalos. |
flvegan |
Nov-16-08 11:25 AM |
#29 |
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She shoulda got a Cobalt, they're 10x better than the Aveo. nt |
CRF450 |
Nov-16-08 08:16 PM |
#91 |
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Irrelevant now, she will never buy another GM, and probably any American car now. |
greyhound1966 |
Nov-17-08 04:22 PM |
#140 |
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Sounds like she (like many of the posters here,) is looking for an EXCUSE for not supporting labor. |
Romulox |
Nov-18-08 11:32 AM |
#183 |
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Sounds like a woman that got ripped off for thousands of dollars and is not happy about it. |
greyhound1966 |
Nov-18-08 11:45 AM |
#184 |
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So she's going to make people who had nothing whatever to do with it PAY!!!??? |
Romulox |
Nov-18-08 11:51 AM |
#185 |
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You're the one that made a completely unwarranted attack on a person you know nothing about. |
greyhound1966 |
Nov-18-08 12:02 PM |
#187 |
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Personal attack? Link? |
Romulox |
Nov-18-08 12:16 PM |
#188 |
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"Sounds like she is looking for an EXCUSE for not supporting labor." |
greyhound1966 |
Nov-18-08 12:28 PM |
#189 |
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Yeah. That's not a personal attack. nt |
Romulox |
Nov-18-08 02:09 PM |
#196 |
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I had 2 over 10 year old Oldsmobiles and they both ran repair-free and great. nt |
MookieWilson |
Nov-16-08 11:08 AM |
#22 |
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One of my all time favorite cars was my 1988 Olds Touring Sedan. |
old mark |
Nov-17-08 04:46 PM |
#141 |
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Agreed. I've owned 8 GM/Ford cars in my life |
flvegan |
Nov-16-08 11:18 AM |
#25 |
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I'll take a Ford over any of the others, |
madokie |
Nov-16-08 11:19 AM |
#26 |
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My '94 Ford (Eddy Bauer) Explorer went |
ben_thayer |
Nov-16-08 11:27 AM |
#31 |
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does loving my |
pansypoo53219 |
Nov-16-08 11:30 AM |
#32 |
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I've got an American car I am very happy with |
JNelson6563 |
Nov-16-08 11:33 AM |
#34 |
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this is me with my 2006 Mustang |
Gargoyle |
Nov-16-08 11:51 AM |
#37 |
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Fuckin vandals |
CRF450 |
Nov-16-08 08:37 PM |
#95 |
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I'll never forget shopping for a new car with my Mother in 1980! |
FredStembottom |
Nov-16-08 11:52 AM |
#38 |
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Chevette LOL |
SmileyRose |
Nov-16-08 12:45 PM |
#48 |
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I've owned many American made cars and I haven't had one that let me down ever. |
TheGoldenRule |
Nov-16-08 12:02 PM |
#41 |
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I have owned 2 GM vehicles and currently a Volkswagen |
tammywammy |
Nov-16-08 12:20 PM |
#46 |
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i dont like my saturn. at all. liked my gm camero, cavaliar and pontiac ??? cant |
seabeyond |
Nov-16-08 12:48 PM |
#49 |
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. |
Blue State Native |
Nov-16-08 01:01 PM |
#51 |
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I have owned and driven Fords exclusively for 34 years |
peanut2010 |
Nov-16-08 01:01 PM |
#52 |
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I've never had a problem with a Ford either. |
sufrommich |
Nov-17-08 05:31 PM |
#148 |
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I have a 12 year old Cavalier and I love the car |
cal04 |
Nov-16-08 01:07 PM |
#53 |
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I have always owned American made cars (GM) and have been quite happy with them. |
LibInTexas |
Nov-16-08 01:35 PM |
#55 |
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i LOVED my pacers. if they brought them back i'd buy one again. |
QuestionAll |
Nov-16-08 01:38 PM |
#56 |
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If Ford were to bring the same designs they make for Europe to the US then i |
chimpsrsmarter |
Nov-16-08 01:59 PM |
#57 |
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I think they're going to start selling Fiestas in the US in 2010. |
Telly Savalas |
Nov-16-08 10:36 PM |
#98 |
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If I hear another "Ford = Fix or repair daily" quip I'm gonna go an a rampage. |
Odin2005 |
Nov-16-08 02:15 PM |
#58 |
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How about Found On Road Dead? |
GrizzlyMan |
Nov-16-08 03:37 PM |
#60 |
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I'd guess that the mid 90s was when the domestic cars started getting good again. |
Odin2005 |
Nov-16-08 03:51 PM |
#64 |
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I know, but my 1984 Ford really *did* leave me stranded a lot. |
lildreamer316 |
Nov-16-08 05:24 PM |
#77 |
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Yup...and my 1980's stereo had 1.8% Total Harmonic Distortion. |
Atman |
Nov-16-08 06:54 PM |
#87 |
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Ours too. We had 2 '84s, leased. Longest 4 yrs of my life. |
OurVotesCount-Ohio |
Nov-17-08 01:05 PM |
#135 |
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GMC - Gotta Mechanic Coming |
XOKCowboy |
Nov-17-08 06:51 PM |
#161 |
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Enough people haven't wanted to buy the Big Three that it has seriously hurt their business |
MadHound |
Nov-16-08 03:42 PM |
#61 |
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I've had three American cars. |
donco6 |
Nov-16-08 03:51 PM |
#63 |
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I hate to say it on the We Love American Cars thread- but Subaru |
LeftyMom |
Nov-16-08 04:04 PM |
#67 |
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Well, as a Subaru owner, I wouldn't expect you to say anything different! |
Atman |
Nov-16-08 04:22 PM |
#68 |
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I've never owned a Subaru. I drive a Saturn. |
LeftyMom |
Nov-16-08 04:49 PM |
#71 |
| -
Oops, my bad! |
Atman |
Nov-16-08 05:49 PM |
#84 |
| -
Driving successfully in the snow is about two things: |
Thegonagle |
Nov-17-08 05:57 PM |
#155 |
| -
I have a joke.... |
PatGund |
Nov-16-08 10:59 PM |
#102 |
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Seems like Subaru is the official car |
hogwyld |
Nov-17-08 06:41 PM |
#159 |
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There was a time when American cars were awesome ... |
ColbertWatcher |
Nov-16-08 04:32 PM |
#69 |
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Exactly how are either of these vehicles better than a full-sized SUV? |
Atman |
Nov-16-08 05:55 PM |
#85 |
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Yes, the cars in the pics in my post are gas guzzlers, but they were made in the 60's-70's. |
ColbertWatcher |
Nov-16-08 11:04 PM |
#103 |
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Todays high perfromance cars are way more effecient than those pictured |
CRF450 |
Nov-17-08 11:49 PM |
#169 |
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Their rep came from a few spectacularly bad cars |
seasat |
Nov-16-08 04:39 PM |
#70 |
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I got tired of buying Crappy detroit cars |
pending |
Nov-16-08 05:08 PM |
#72 |
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I have a used Windstar - waiting for the scrappers.... |
mwooldri |
Nov-16-08 05:17 PM |
#74 |
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Good post. n/t |
OhioChick |
Nov-16-08 05:19 PM |
#75 |
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Right now I have a 2003 Chevy Impala; because |
lildreamer316 |
Nov-16-08 05:23 PM |
#76 |
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Qualified for? |
JVS |
Nov-16-08 05:28 PM |
#80 |
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"Sub prime" car loan. |
Atman |
Nov-16-08 06:02 PM |
#86 |
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Yep; that's about it. |
lildreamer316 |
Nov-16-08 11:24 PM |
#106 |
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Hey, it helped us out, too. |
Atman |
Nov-17-08 06:32 AM |
#111 |
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wow |
buckettgirl |
Nov-17-08 08:57 AM |
#119 |
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The 1500 car died three weeks before I bought the new one. |
lildreamer316 |
Nov-17-08 09:54 AM |
#122 |
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all i can say |
buckettgirl |
Nov-17-08 03:33 PM |
#139 |
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You've got to be kidding me. |
lildreamer316 |
Nov-17-08 11:09 PM |
#167 |
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I wasn't dumb. It's easy to be so practical when it doesn't cost you anything, right? |
Atman |
Nov-18-08 09:28 AM |
#173 |
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The "sub-prime" used cars that work well for those loans are generally |
Thegonagle |
Nov-17-08 05:22 PM |
#145 |
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GM should build more of these... |
RetroLounge |
Nov-16-08 05:33 PM |
#81 |
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I have a '98 Chevy Malibu with no problems, and had a lemon Subaru before that. |
Waiting For Everyman |
Nov-16-08 05:35 PM |
#82 |
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I loved my Ford Escape - wish I hadn't sold it. nt |
whutgives |
Nov-16-08 07:59 PM |
#89 |
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Thank you!! Finally an open minded poster brings up this issue. |
CRF450 |
Nov-16-08 08:14 PM |
#90 |
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My PT Cruiser is great! Better than my husband's Civic or my old Acura and the Toyota before that. |
McCamy Taylor |
Nov-16-08 08:23 PM |
#92 |
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My old Subaru was crap compared to my Ford Freestyle. |
knitter4democracy |
Nov-16-08 08:23 PM |
#93 |
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I am the opposite |
OutspokenLiberal |
Nov-16-08 11:12 PM |
#105 |
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I was surprised, honestly. |
knitter4democracy |
Nov-17-08 10:03 AM |
#124 |
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You are right.. |
sendero |
Nov-16-08 08:30 PM |
#94 |
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I had a 1980 Chevy Monza that lasted 14 years. |
azmouse |
Nov-16-08 08:44 PM |
#96 |
| -
I've always owned Subarus but... |
drumtrip |
Nov-16-08 11:06 PM |
#104 |
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1994 Dodge Shadow. Best car I ever owned. Beats my current Corolla by a long shot. |
PeterU |
Nov-16-08 09:51 PM |
#97 |
| -
Yes, a lot of people bought big trucks and SUVs, thus making the Big Three keep churning out lots |
codjh9 |
Nov-16-08 10:54 PM |
#100 |
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Have you seen Toyota's and Nissan's trucks? Some of the biggest things on the road. |
Atman |
Nov-17-08 07:13 AM |
#112 |
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How did they get away with building cars that roll over so easy. Don't tell be their |
rhett o rick |
Nov-16-08 10:57 PM |
#101 |
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It is the high center of gravity on any tall vehicle |
kwassa |
Nov-17-08 08:32 AM |
#116 |
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Thanks but I understand the physics, but my point is that GM and Ford designed and built vehicles |
rhett o rick |
Nov-17-08 03:15 PM |
#137 |
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Cars themselves are inherently dangerous. |
Atman |
Nov-17-08 03:33 PM |
#138 |
| -
I agree of course that cars are dangerous. My point is that Detroit built |
rhett o rick |
Nov-17-08 04:51 PM |
#142 |
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Its not like they roll over when the driver turns the wheel fast. |
CRF450 |
Nov-17-08 05:49 PM |
#153 |
| -
I have owned GM, Ford and Toyota vehicles. |
dugaresa |
Nov-16-08 11:31 PM |
#107 |
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I drive a 2000 Caravan and it runs great |
Marrah_G |
Nov-17-08 07:27 AM |
#113 |
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My only bad GM car had a Toyota engine that crapped out after 80,000 miles |
kwassa |
Nov-17-08 08:37 AM |
#117 |
| -
I own 03 Ford Escape and 92 Chevy Lumina |
buckettgirl |
Nov-17-08 08:37 AM |
#118 |
| -
I'm tired of it being true. nt |
Deep13 |
Nov-17-08 09:01 AM |
#120 |
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On Washington Journal This Morning. . . |
ProfessorGAC |
Nov-17-08 10:05 AM |
#125 |
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I am going to get smoked for this, but I believe that the root of |
EnviroBat |
Nov-17-08 10:22 AM |
#126 |
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Which 100k Miles Plastiboxes Would That Be? |
ProfessorGAC |
Nov-17-08 10:32 AM |
#127 |
| -
Disclamer- Own 2006 Grand Prix |
snooper2 |
Nov-17-08 10:51 AM |
#128 |
| -
My experiences |
StreetKnowledge |
Nov-17-08 10:51 AM |
#129 |
| -
they killed their succesful electric car program and bought hummer instead. |
toadzilla |
Nov-17-08 11:25 AM |
#131 |
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Yeah,...I had a good laugh the other day at a commercial for a $24,5000 hummer H3 |
anigbrowl |
Nov-18-08 12:49 PM |
#190 |
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The electric cars cost $40,000 to buy. |
StreetKnowledge |
Nov-18-08 12:52 PM |
#191 |
| -
No one is buying a car because no one has a JOB |
lib2DaBone |
Nov-17-08 11:46 AM |
#132 |
| -
Bought A Used 2005 Buick Century In 2006 And Love It! |
Better Believe It |
Nov-17-08 12:01 PM |
#134 |
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I did not know that they owned Ditech |
underpants |
Nov-17-08 05:40 PM |
#150 |
| -
I guess that was the point of my OP... |
Atman |
Nov-17-08 08:32 PM |
#163 |
| -
to add to that |
underpants |
Nov-17-08 08:42 PM |
#165 |
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But marketing campaigns and tax breaks for purchasing gas guzzlers |
Overseas |
Nov-17-08 05:42 PM |
#151 |
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Tax breaks came from the Bush admin, not the car co's |
demokatgurrl |
Nov-18-08 01:56 PM |
#195 |
| -
Had a '95 Ford Contour V6 |
sir pball |
Nov-17-08 05:43 PM |
#152 |
| -
I love Ford Trucks. |
XOKCowboy |
Nov-17-08 05:58 PM |
#156 |
| -
I love Ford Trucks. |
XOKCowboy |
Nov-17-08 05:59 PM |
#157 |
| -
I love my T-bird |
Ohio Joe |
Nov-17-08 06:45 PM |
#160 |
| -
I only buy American cars myself |
HughMoran |
Nov-17-08 11:13 PM |
#168 |
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We bought a new s10 blazer in 1991 had it up until last year, had 200,000 miles when |
madmom |
Nov-18-08 12:01 AM |
#171 |
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Okay. No one SMART bought Detroit cars. |
tomreedtoon |
Nov-18-08 12:15 AM |
#172 |
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I'm Smart. I Bought Them |
ProfessorGAC |
Nov-18-08 09:35 AM |
#175 |
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You're a fool. That is the only thing you clarified. |
Atman |
Nov-18-08 09:50 AM |
#178 |
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Bad Management Is Right |
ProfessorGAC |
Nov-18-08 10:01 AM |
#180 |
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Lots of SMART people bought Detroit cars. |
StreetKnowledge |
Nov-18-08 01:00 PM |
#192 |
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How's the Pontiac G8? |
CRF450 |
Nov-18-08 03:01 PM |
#198 |
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a lot of good lefties rushed out to buy GM's EV-1 electric car. If it was still available... |
yurbud |
Nov-18-08 09:44 AM |
#176 |
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It's generational. Baby Boomers can remember American cars they liked, Xers can't |
yurbud |
Nov-18-08 09:54 AM |
#179 |
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It's REGIONAL. Sunbelt residents feel they can appease the "free market" with a sacrifice |
Romulox |
Nov-18-08 12:01 PM |
#186 |
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Midwest sees it as loyalty to workers, everywhere else sees it as misplaced loyalty to corporations |
yurbud |
Nov-18-08 01:29 PM |
#194 |
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Motorcycles offer an interesting parallel |
anigbrowl |
Nov-18-08 01:26 PM |
#193 |
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Check out the Kawasaki Ninja 650r. |
CRF450 |
Nov-18-08 02:58 PM |
#197 |
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I actually have asoft spot for old honda 400/4s... |
anigbrowl |
Nov-18-08 08:19 PM |
#204 |
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they made some pretty good cars, that got crappy gas mileage |
leftofthedial |
Nov-18-08 04:12 PM |
#201 |
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I wish Detroi won't under the depression too much |
sray2007 |
Nov-18-08 04:46 PM |
#203 |
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We buy Fords. |
MissMarple |
Nov-19-08 09:43 AM |
#206 |
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Our 1992 Toyota Corolla is still running |
LiberalEsto |
Nov-19-08 09:52 AM |
#207 |
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People want to buy American, unfortunately Amercian car co. CEOs |
Lorien |
Nov-19-08 09:56 AM |
#208 |
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