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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-08 03:09 PM
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12. In my view, the economic problems add urgency for the single-payer solution.
Edited on Sat Nov-15-08 03:14 PM by TahitiNut
I regard it as an even higher priority than "national defense" since we're ALREADY losing lives all over the nation as a result of the cannibalistic for-profit 'system' that equates profit with death and suffering. After all, "national defense" is about a perceived 'threat' to the lives of the People. Well, the Enemy is withing the Walls and lives are bing lost.

Relieved of the costs of health "benefits," corporations SHOULD be able to compete more efficiently/effectively and reduce the costs of even administering such "benefits."

At the ROOT of our current economic problems is the disenfranchisement of labor ... decimated payrolls and decimated wages and salaries in the working class. Further, people with chronic health care problems are prevented from entering (re-entering) the work force along with people whose ONLY 'health' issue is age ... the ageism of corporations with a bias against group insurance premium increases exacted by predatory insurance ompanies.

Single-payer eradicates such specious resistance to some of the more experienced and skilled workers in the country: those over 50 years old.

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     - Thanks for the clarification -- and I agree -- VERY encouraging! nt  gateley   Nov-16-08 11:54 AM   #25 
  - K&R - Now's the time  leftstreet   Nov-15-08 02:20 PM   #2 
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  - Except this is a life or death issue. We can't afford not to adopt  Vinca   Nov-15-08 02:53 PM   #6 
  - Healthcare is a huge impediment to business growth.  aquart   Nov-15-08 03:02 PM   #11 
  - In my view, the economic problems add urgency for the single-payer solution.  TahitiNut   Nov-15-08 03:09 PM   #12 
  - i agree.  sweets   Nov-15-08 06:49 PM   #18 
  - Universal single payer health care could greatly help the economy  sandyd921   Nov-15-08 06:33 PM   #17 
  - The money is already there.  Cassandra   Nov-16-08 08:07 AM   #23 
  - HR 676 doesn't cost us more money.  LWolf   Nov-16-08 10:12 AM   #24 
  - The UK got National Health Care after the wreck of WWII.  mwooldri   Nov-17-08 01:05 AM   #30 
  - I think HR 676 is the Conyers/Kucinich bill. This news is very good to hear.  mrone2   Nov-15-08 02:23 PM   #4 
  - Yes, HR 676 is the John Conyers bill with 78 cosponsors.  TahitiNut   Nov-15-08 02:54 PM   #7 
  - How much payroll tax to get Universal Single Payer Health Care?  exboyfil   Nov-15-08 03:30 PM   #13 
     - Comparisons to German, French, and other tax rates are basically flawed.  TahitiNut   Nov-15-08 03:48 PM   #14 
        - Thanks - Maybe we can get by with 14% payroll over current taxes  exboyfil   Nov-15-08 05:40 PM   #16 
           - Do some reading before coming up with your own theories. (nt)  redqueen   Nov-16-08 02:22 AM   #21 
           - "irrational usage"?  suffragette   Nov-16-08 12:04 PM   #26 
           - Whole families going to the hospital instead of a movie?  TahitiNut   Nov-17-08 02:23 AM   #32 
           - Irrational usage  exboyfil   Nov-17-08 04:49 AM   #34 
           - re: "irrational usage." As self appointed arbiter...  asteroid2003QQ47   Nov-17-08 01:50 AM   #31 
              - Coast to coast plague of Munchhausen's Syndrome, I guess.  TahitiNut   Nov-17-08 02:25 AM   #33 
  - YES! Dammit. YES!  aquart   Nov-15-08 02:57 PM   #8 
  - it is so past time for this  emald   Nov-15-08 03:54 PM   #15 
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  - Now THAT is really interesting --!!!  defendandprotect   Nov-16-08 09:27 PM   #28 
  - kicking for a great post!  slinkerwink   Nov-17-08 12:47 AM   #29 
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  - Another kick for this important issue.  area51   Nov-17-08 10:02 AM   #36 
  - tell that to the "pro-life" crowd  OutspokenLiberal   Nov-17-08 10:09 AM   #37 
  - This really is a huge development.  redqueen   Nov-17-08 12:07 PM   #38 
  - Get involved with one of these organizations and  redqueen   Nov-18-08 09:47 AM   #39 

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