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Sat Nov-15-08 09:24 AM
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| 27. 85 Toyota truck with 300,000 miles |
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Edited on Sat Nov-15-08 09:25 AM by proud2Blib
still running with no maintenance except oil changes.
84 Honda Accord 250,000 miles. Still runs great with only minor repairs.
One is sitting in my driveway right now. The other one belongs to a good friend.
On the other hand, I bought a brand new 93 Blazer in 93. The heater went out at 500 miles. The radio stopped working at 20,000 miles, both electric windows went out at 50,000 miles and the 'check engine' light started flashing at around 25,000 miles and they never could figure out what was causing it to come on or how to make it stop. Finally sold it for $200 at 100,000 miles. It needed a new exhaust system.
Hubby had an 89 Lumina with much the same history. It also was out of our driveway (towed away) at around 100,000 miles.
We now buy only Hondas or Toyotas. And we keep hoping the American car makers will make a better quality product. We are both union members and would much rather spend our money on American cars.
I loved what Michael Moore said a couple years ago. He asked if any of the top dogs at the big 3 American car makers ever went to a Honda or Toyota dealership and took a test drive around the block to see what the big deal was, why are so many of us buying Japanese cars. Instead of condemning them, find out why they were so appealing.
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| -I hate to say this but I'm calling BS on Debbie Stabenow. |
Skidmore |
Nov-15-08 05:11 AM |
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I don't think she's 100% wrong |
OhioBlues |
Nov-15-08 05:15 AM |
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You are correct. Even the OP agrees ... |
ColbertWatcher |
Nov-15-08 03:46 PM |
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Here's some reality ... |
RoyGBiv |
Nov-15-08 05:26 AM |
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good idea... |
madrchsod |
Nov-15-08 05:30 AM |
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While many might dispute the 20M job loss |
lapfog_1 |
Nov-15-08 05:31 AM |
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What you have outlined is exactly what I would support. |
Skidmore |
Nov-15-08 05:40 AM |
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Cross posting my thoughts from another thread. |
lapfog_1 |
Nov-15-08 06:07 AM |
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Send these suggestions to the Obama team at change.gov. |
Skidmore |
Nov-15-08 06:21 AM |
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Done. |
lapfog_1 |
Nov-15-08 06:53 AM |
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I think that you probably got the best link there. We were told |
Skidmore |
Nov-15-08 07:01 AM |
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I'm sorry to say that I was taken in |
lapfog_1 |
Nov-15-08 07:11 AM |
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Stabenow is a Michigan Senator, she is doing what she needs to do for her State |
MiniMe |
Nov-15-08 07:27 AM |
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IT sounds like you know a lot about this. |
CTyankee |
Nov-15-08 09:38 AM |
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I haven't looked into the complete financials. |
lapfog_1 |
Nov-15-08 12:02 PM |
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That's interesting. Today the NYT editorialized that "any restructuring would mean |
CTyankee |
Nov-15-08 12:51 PM |
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Are you a creditor? |
lapfog_1 |
Nov-15-08 01:55 PM |
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Well, I'm calling my broker/dealer on Monday morning because |
CTyankee |
Nov-15-08 02:03 PM |
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Always good to know what your options are in this market. |
lapfog_1 |
Nov-15-08 02:20 PM |
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Your list is very interesting, and I have a couple of suggestions. |
amandabeech |
Nov-15-08 12:58 PM |
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I thought I said design by Christmas 2009 |
lapfog_1 |
Nov-15-08 02:17 PM |
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Actually, you wrote "design and produce" by Christmas 2009. |
amandabeech |
Nov-15-08 03:39 PM |
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not quite, I think I agree with pretty much all of your points. |
lapfog_1 |
Nov-15-08 07:58 PM |
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The Big 3 are business people. |
amandabeech |
Nov-15-08 09:22 PM |
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I actually test drove the Escape Hybrid. |
lapfog_1 |
Nov-15-08 09:55 PM |
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Perhaps VW can get a loan guarantee from the German government. |
amandabeech |
Nov-15-08 10:07 PM |
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Does VW need a bailout? |
lapfog_1 |
Nov-15-08 10:24 PM |
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I work on a project basis, and I'm looking for a new project. |
amandabeech |
Nov-16-08 01:59 PM |
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As a worker for a supplier to the auto industry |
POAS |
Nov-15-08 05:50 AM |
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I have a client that was just recently let go because GM switched |
WCGreen |
Nov-15-08 06:02 AM |
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Hey WC |
POAS |
Nov-15-08 06:17 AM |
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She's Doing Her Job |
KharmaTrain |
Nov-15-08 06:25 AM |
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All I can say is... |
sendero |
Nov-15-08 07:05 AM |
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Red state opposition. |
Xap |
Nov-15-08 07:29 AM |
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Good point. |
Skidmore |
Nov-15-08 07:58 AM |
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Red state Republican's also led the charge against |
Mudoria |
Nov-15-08 08:39 AM |
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Except that |
Xap |
Nov-15-08 09:02 AM |
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how nice for you |
JNelson6563 |
Nov-15-08 07:43 AM |
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I'm going to give you a pass on this |
Skidmore |
Nov-15-08 07:56 AM |
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Let us look at the two states |
JNelson6563 |
Nov-15-08 10:29 AM |
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Some info |
JNelson6563 |
Nov-16-08 09:47 AM |
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I would rather prop up ANY manufacturing than "derivatives". . |
annabanana |
Nov-15-08 07:45 AM |
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I haven't bought a US made car in 15 years |
proud2Blib |
Nov-15-08 08:02 AM |
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Got a 1989 Camaro RS I bought new.. |
Mudoria |
Nov-15-08 08:42 AM |
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85 Toyota truck with 300,000 miles |
proud2Blib |
Nov-15-08 09:24 AM |
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Things have changed some since '93 with quality. |
amandabeech |
Nov-15-08 12:18 PM |
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I get 38 on the highway |
proud2Blib |
Nov-15-08 01:07 PM |
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Are you driving a four-banger or a modified hybrid? nt |
amandabeech |
Nov-15-08 01:42 PM |
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Scion |
proud2Blib |
Nov-15-08 01:46 PM |
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I've rented one a few times. |
amandabeech |
Nov-15-08 01:54 PM |
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It works fine for me |
proud2Blib |
Nov-15-08 02:00 PM |
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To each his or her own. |
amandabeech |
Nov-15-08 03:41 PM |
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Michigan is already having terrible problems |
gollygee |
Nov-15-08 09:06 AM |
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Wasn't she talking about a "bridge loan?" |
CTyankee |
Nov-15-08 09:32 AM |
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If the "bailout" is simply US guaranteed loans...... |
suston96 |
Nov-15-08 10:38 AM |
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In today's banking climate, I'm not sure that they could get a loan, |
amandabeech |
Nov-15-08 01:02 PM |
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Well, if they give them a low interest loan it should at least be higher than the Treasury bonds |
trudyco |
Nov-15-08 10:41 AM |
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## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
DU GrovelBot |
Nov-15-08 10:41 AM |
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Why are the Most Conservative Least Effective Democrats Always in the Media |
fascisthunter |
Nov-15-08 01:04 PM |
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Can I ask, what's your issue with Sen. Stabenow? |
BreatheOnMe |
Nov-15-08 02:17 PM |
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The problem also lies in outsourcing. |
TWiley |
Nov-15-08 01:06 PM |
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How many MILLIONS of GM and Ford cars are on the road? |
Atman |
Nov-15-08 03:51 PM |
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