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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-08 12:27 PM
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22. For B
I can only guess but I would think that:
1) The Mormon church very rarely gets involved in politics and prefers to be seen a non-political. Partly because of their bad history with political involvement.
So no doubt some of the church leaders don't enjoy the negative attention they're getting now for their role. People should keep it up and hold them accountable. You may not think so but it really will make some of the leadership think twice before they get this heavily involved again.

2) They know they're controversial and other groups make for a better public face.
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  -Mormons began plotting against gay marriage for decade, memo shows ccharles000  Nov-12-08 06:07 PM   #0 
  - Interesting they would want to "join forces" with the catholic church  bushisanidiot   Nov-12-08 06:10 PM   #1 
  - Catholics aren't known for knowing what's in their own book  Hydra   Nov-12-08 06:12 PM   #4 
  - The church fathers banned printing the Bible in the vernacular for a reason.  sfexpat2000   Nov-12-08 06:24 PM   #10 
  - Stalin joined with Hitler for selfish goals.  Ichingcarpenter   Nov-12-08 06:15 PM   #6 
  - The Archbishop of San Francisco has advanced degrees in literature.  sfexpat2000   Nov-12-08 06:22 PM   #8 
  - I told people this, but they didn't want to believe  Hydra   Nov-12-08 06:11 PM   #2 
  - EXACTLY! They litterally want world domination. They believe they are the ONE  bushisanidiot   Nov-13-08 10:33 AM   #11 
     - I live 20 minutes from Mecca  Hydra   Nov-13-08 05:08 PM   #28 
  - can we at least agree that these Mormons are not bigots? nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-12-08 06:11 PM   #3 
  - You've got to be kidding, right? Of COURSE they're bigots.  bushisanidiot   Nov-13-08 10:37 AM   #12 
  - They are among the worst bigots  AndrewP   Nov-13-08 10:47 AM   #14 
  - Come on.  Radical Activist   Nov-13-08 10:50 AM   #15 
     - Are you serious?  Harvey Korman   Nov-13-08 10:56 AM   #16 
     - Do you know how every single Mormon voted?  Radical Activist   Nov-13-08 11:24 AM   #17 
     - Sorry, but mormons aren't used to thinking for themselves.  bushisanidiot   Nov-13-08 11:46 AM   #20 
     - Well  Radical Activist   Nov-13-08 12:03 PM   #21 
        - If these "good" Mormons disagree with the Mormon church...  mitchum   Nov-13-08 08:06 PM   #32 
        - Some will leave.  Radical Activist   Nov-14-08 02:44 PM   #41 
        - bullshit. it's not bigotry. by not standing up against this kind of hatred  bushisanidiot   Nov-14-08 11:19 AM   #37 
           - I would have left  Radical Activist   Nov-14-08 02:47 PM   #42 
     - I'm talking about the people who voted YES for whatever reason  Harvey Korman   Nov-13-08 02:36 PM   #23 
     - This sub thread  Radical Activist   Nov-13-08 03:55 PM   #25 
     - If they're actively working to change the church, OK.  donco6   Nov-14-08 02:51 PM   #45 
        - post 50  Radical Activist   Nov-14-08 03:17 PM   #51 
     - And bothering to understand someone elses point of view is not a defense of it.  Radical Activist   Nov-13-08 11:25 AM   #18 
        - Not when your expression of understanding validates ideas like "traditional families"  Harvey Korman   Nov-13-08 02:37 PM   #24 
           - I'm not aware of validating the term in any way.  Radical Activist   Nov-13-08 04:01 PM   #26 
              - Strawman  Harvey Korman   Nov-13-08 05:02 PM   #27 
                 - Are you admitting that's what you were doing?  Radical Activist   Nov-13-08 05:23 PM   #29 
                    - No that's what you're doing  Harvey Korman   Nov-14-08 08:38 AM   #36 
                       - another straw man from you.  Radical Activist   Nov-14-08 02:25 PM   #40 
                       - "bigoted and damaging"  Radical Activist   Nov-14-08 02:51 PM   #46 
     - Fuck every one of them I find the gullible to be as contemptible as the grifter  mitchum   Nov-13-08 08:01 PM   #31 
     - Sounds like Ignorance IS an excuse!  donco6   Nov-14-08 02:49 PM   #44 
        - I didn't make excuses for anybody.  Radical Activist   Nov-14-08 03:12 PM   #50 
  - That's impolite. Please just say "The B Word".  mondo joe   Nov-13-08 08:08 PM   #34 
  - What is your game, anyway?  donco6   Nov-14-08 02:48 PM   #43 
  - Hell, the Mormon church once had official doctrine which considered black people  IWantAnyDem   Nov-14-08 02:53 PM   #47 
     - Not to mention bigamy  This One   Nov-14-08 02:56 PM   #49 
  - "should not be seen as the lead instigator in the fight against gay marriage."  ColbertWatcher   Nov-12-08 06:13 PM   #5 
  - For B  Radical Activist   Nov-13-08 12:27 PM   #22 
     - Completely correct.  crispini   Nov-14-08 11:28 AM   #39 
  - That was the birth of Pop 22  Cronus Protagonist   Nov-12-08 06:15 PM   #7 
  - I think these are the memos referred to in this Kos post:  MPK   Nov-12-08 06:24 PM   #9 
  - Yep. Its not like prop 8 is the first time they got involved in this.  Radical Activist   Nov-13-08 10:38 AM   #13 
  - Who the HELL do they think they are, given  liberalhistorian   Nov-13-08 11:28 AM   #19 
  - They think they are God's chosen people  slackmaster   Nov-13-08 05:26 PM   #30 
     - And the truth actually is that they are Joseph Smith's chosen suckers  mitchum   Nov-13-08 08:08 PM   #35 
  - ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ##  DU GrovelBot   Nov-13-08 08:06 PM   #33 
  - .  crispini   Nov-14-08 11:27 AM   #38 
  - I think there should be a proposition in California that takes away the right of Mormons to marry  IWantAnyDem   Nov-14-08 02:56 PM   #48 
  - A financial bully. Why don't they pick on someone their own size?  Mike 03   Nov-14-08 03:35 PM   #52 
  - P.S. One of my favorite National Parks in the country is there (Bryce  Mike 03   Nov-14-08 03:37 PM   #53 
 

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