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61. Some claim that birth control pills are not a medical item, either
and, I believe, some pharmacies will direct the purchaser to another pharmacist.

This is the same thing. We are a pluralistic society. This is why immigrants come here in the first place. But once immigrants are here they want to change our pluralism to fit their view of the world.

It is worth in Europe, in Britain, where some Muslims join terror groups because they do not like the way women dress in public. This is what happened with the founder of the Islamic Brotherhood - that started religious zealotry in Egypt. He came to this country and was disgusted by the way women behaved in public. Always women, of course..
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  -Target is transferring cashiers who avoid pork question everything  Mar-18-07 08:32 PM   #0 
  - If your religion forbids you from doing your job, get a new job.  flashlighter   Mar-18-07 08:35 PM   #1 
  - Fire the idiots  BayCityProgressive   Mar-18-07 08:37 PM   #3 
  - they first have to do away with the religious conviction law in various states  SemperEadem   Mar-19-07 04:23 PM   #175 
  - Thank you. Pretty basic, if you ask me.  kestrel91316   Mar-18-07 08:38 PM   #4 
  - Yep, I agree. I'm sick of this bullshit.  originalpckelly   Mar-18-07 08:41 PM   #8 
  - Wow! Such tolerance. Not.  Clark2008   Mar-18-07 08:46 PM   #22 
  - this is THE EXACT SAME THING as a pharmacist who won't  flashlighter   Mar-18-07 08:50 PM   #30 
  - That's asinine and everyone knows it. People only differ on whether or not they *care*...  BlooInBloo   Mar-18-07 08:55 PM   #37 
  - No one said that "Muslims should not be cashiers".  flashlighter   Mar-18-07 08:59 PM   #43 
  - And it's kind of tacky too. Customers may not like being told that they are  SoCalDem   Mar-19-07 03:52 AM   #85 
     - Also tacky to ask customers in a "service" line to scan their own items  Mike Daniels   Mar-19-07 07:56 AM   #89 
     - Or to ask customers in another line to wait while their cashier goes over to ring someone else!  AZBlue   Mar-19-07 03:25 PM   #166 
     - some states allow you to check out your own groceries--do the whole process  SemperEadem   Mar-19-07 04:25 PM   #176 
        - they have self check out in some stores around here  orleans   Mar-19-07 11:27 PM   #207 
     - Did the cashier say that the customer was sinful?  geardaddy   Mar-19-07 02:53 PM   #160 
        - exerpts  SoCalDem   Mar-19-07 04:03 PM   #169 
           - I saw that, but  geardaddy   Mar-19-07 04:16 PM   #171 
           - Target shoppers who read the articles and who have followed the "faux-controversy"  SoCalDem   Mar-19-07 04:22 PM   #174 
           - As bad as Evangelicans who do not want to see others go to hell  question everything   Mar-19-07 04:20 PM   #173 
  - Some claim that birth control pills are not a medical item, either  question everything   Mar-18-07 09:55 PM   #61 
     - That is not ok either. if you dont want to sell birth control pills, you should go work at target.  robinlynne   Mar-18-07 10:16 PM   #70 
  - No, it's not.  Clark2008   Mar-18-07 08:56 PM   #38 
  - Ok, and underage kid CAN'T sell you beer. This cashier doesn't want to.  flashlighter   Mar-18-07 09:03 PM   #52 
     - My point is that it's not any more inconvenient to the customer,  Clark2008   Mar-18-07 09:43 PM   #59 
  - at the grocery store where I shop  sad_one   Mar-18-07 09:46 PM   #60 
  - Thank you.  Clark2008   Mar-18-07 10:01 PM   #63 
  - I was thinking the same thing.  zanne   Mar-19-07 08:14 AM   #94 
  - No, because a cashier doesn't provide drugs you ingest for medical treatment.  The Stranger   Mar-19-07 11:17 AM   #136 
  - They aren't firing them, just transfering  Goblinmonger   Mar-19-07 08:06 AM   #91 
  - If I refuse to do my job, I get fired. Why the double standard for religion?  Beelzebud   Mar-19-07 10:30 AM   #123 
  - it's not a double standard, it's a reasonable accommodation  fishwax   Mar-19-07 11:33 AM   #140 
  - Should Jewish people be fired for not working on Jewish Holidays?  treestar   Mar-19-07 05:48 PM   #187 
     - There is a difference if you wish to take a day off  question everything   Mar-20-07 01:03 AM   #208 
  - Agreed.  Xenotime   Mar-19-07 10:53 AM   #131 
  - Yes. It's hardly rocket science. nm  dicksteele   Mar-18-07 08:58 PM   #41 
  - exactly.  robinlynne   Mar-18-07 10:15 PM   #67 
  - Nah.  Frogger   Mar-18-07 10:53 PM   #78 
  - Hey Frogger, Welcome to DU  question everything   Mar-18-07 11:49 PM   #80 
     - Thanks  Frogger   Mar-20-07 04:33 PM   #215 
  - I would tend to agree.  The Backlash Cometh   Mar-19-07 07:24 AM   #87 
  - isn't that pretty much what's happening?  fishwax   Mar-19-07 11:22 AM   #137 
  - Seems reasonable  BlueStateModerate   Mar-18-07 08:36 PM   #2 
  - it is such f***ing nonsense  Skittles   Mar-18-07 08:42 PM   #10 
     - I understand that some may be cautious and ask us to show tolerance...  originalpckelly   Mar-18-07 08:44 PM   #13 
     - I don't know - I don't eat pork. It's nasty and I can't digest it.  Clark2008   Mar-18-07 08:49 PM   #27 
     - Allergic to pork???  Frogger   Mar-18-07 10:55 PM   #79 
     - "It's nasty"?  cherokeeprogressive   Mar-19-07 12:02 PM   #147 
     - what's intolerant about having someone else scan an item?  fishwax   Mar-19-07 11:46 AM   #141 
     - Christian fundies, Muslim fundies... same crap...  Katzenkavalier   Mar-20-07 01:22 AM   #210 
     - "OUR lifestyles in AMERICA"???  lwfern   Mar-19-07 08:51 PM   #196 
     - No, that was the article's spin/explanation of it.  Hatalles   Mar-18-07 08:45 PM   #17 
     - I don't care  Skittles   Mar-18-07 08:49 PM   # 
        - That's fine.  Hatalles   Mar-18-07 08:58 PM   #40 
           - What will be next? Not scanning fatty items?  question everything   Mar-18-07 09:59 PM   #62 
           - That's a slippery slope.  Hatalles   Mar-18-07 10:10 PM   #65 
           - Great point  BoneDaddy   Mar-19-07 09:10 AM   #114 
           - exactly. I would hate to be treated like that if purchasing condoms  Truth Hurts A Lot   Mar-20-07 05:48 PM   #218 
           - well, part of the problem  northzax   Mar-19-07 03:23 PM   #164 
     - Why make the assumption that they are judging you?  sad_one   Mar-19-07 12:11 PM   #148 
  - How many fundies who completely support a pharmacist's right to  tanyev   Mar-18-07 08:39 PM   #5 
  - Exactly.  MrsGrumpy   Mar-18-07 08:43 PM   #11 
  - You can't?  cali   Mar-18-07 08:49 PM   #29 
     - I guess I save my anger for other things.  MrsGrumpy   Mar-18-07 08:52 PM   #36 
        - Well, most people don't care to have the line  cali   Mar-18-07 08:59 PM   #45 
           - Having been raised Catholic, I think I would have the same reaction.  MrsGrumpy   Mar-18-07 09:01 PM   #47 
           - It isn't about what makes others tick  ends_dont_justify   Mar-18-07 09:04 PM   #53 
              - I responded to cali saying he/she knew how I would react to  MrsGrumpy   Mar-18-07 09:06 PM   #55 
              - "In America you do a job or you don't get paid" ...  fishwax   Mar-19-07 11:50 AM   #142 
           - ... about "understanding"  Hatalles   Mar-18-07 09:43 PM   #58 
  - Exactly! It is fundie hypocrisy as usual.  treestar   Mar-19-07 08:37 AM   #104 
  - They won't get  cloudbase   Mar-18-07 08:39 PM   #6 
  - Ah, but they already drive an airport taxi... as long as passengers  question everything   Mar-18-07 08:46 PM   #21 
  - Sorry but I agree w/Target. This is BS - you don't apply for and get a job and then  williesgirl   Mar-18-07 08:39 PM   #7 
  - Same problem with taxi drivers from the same community  question everything   Mar-18-07 08:43 PM   #12 
  - So, do you leave when an under 18 cashier waits to have  Clark2008   Mar-18-07 08:51 PM   #33 
  - That is NOT NOT NOT the same thing!!  kgfnally   Mar-19-07 09:18 AM   #116 
  - That's completely different. Law vs Religious/Moral Beliefs  nonconformist   Mar-19-07 03:35 PM   #168 
  - How about if the Catholic cashier refuses to scan meat on Fridays  RamboLiberal   Mar-19-07 11:51 AM   #143 
  - If they do this they need to transfer the 18 year olds who cannot sell  MrsGrumpy   Mar-18-07 08:42 PM   #9 
  - But the it's the law for 18-year-olds. It's a personal choice for the Muslims.  valerief   Mar-18-07 08:45 PM   #15 
  - People were complaining about having to wait elsewhere in this  MrsGrumpy   Mar-18-07 08:45 PM   #19 
  - But it was against the law for the 18-year-old to scan liquor. It's a personal  valerief   Mar-18-07 08:47 PM   #24 
     - The 18 year old shouldn't have been hired for the job in the first place.  MrsGrumpy   Mar-18-07 08:48 PM   #25 
        - So the Muslim shouldn't have been hired or the Muslim should have scanned the bacon?  valerief   Mar-18-07 08:49 PM   #28 
        - Neither should have been hired for the job they both had.  MrsGrumpy   Mar-18-07 08:50 PM   #31 
           - Thanks. Have a god-free day!  valerief   Mar-18-07 09:00 PM   #46 
              - A little God in my day bothers me not. The presence of God or lack  MrsGrumpy   Mar-18-07 09:02 PM   #49 
                 - Just accept my good wishes, please. I was trying to be nice. nt  valerief   Mar-18-07 09:03 PM   #50 
                    - I'm being nice too. see the wavey guy?  MrsGrumpy   Mar-18-07 09:03 PM   #51 
        - No, it is NOT the same thing  kgfnally   Mar-19-07 09:20 AM   #117 
           - Ah but the alcohol laws in Minnesota  geardaddy   Mar-19-07 03:10 PM   #162 
  - Not really - the point is the inconvenience to the customer, which  Clark2008   Mar-18-07 08:59 PM   #42 
  - Exactly, and that accomodation was made without a lot of fuss  treestar   Mar-19-07 09:08 AM   #113 
  - You know they were fundie?  igil   Mar-19-07 10:52 AM   #130 
     - They might have been freepers  treestar   Mar-19-07 05:46 PM   #186 
  - You're right - they were stupid for hiring her in the first place.  AZBlue   Mar-19-07 03:23 PM   #165 
  - they post a sign at the entry to the line "No Alcohol Purchases" n/t  Scout   Mar-19-07 07:46 PM   #193 
  - Looks like everyone is over-reacting  aint_no_life_nowhere   Mar-18-07 08:44 PM   #14 
  - You Win!  MrsGrumpy   Mar-18-07 08:45 PM   #16 
  - Good point.  Clark2008   Mar-18-07 09:01 PM   #48 
  - See...  ends_dont_justify   Mar-18-07 09:11 PM   #56 
  - Wouldn't it be easier to post a sign at the Muslim's checkstand  anitar1   Mar-19-07 03:04 PM   #161 
     - A Moslem doesn't have to handle pork products  aint_no_life_nowhere   Mar-19-07 08:01 PM   #195 
        - It IS nutty behavior. Good post.  Katzenkavalier   Mar-20-07 01:29 AM   #213 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-18-07 08:45 PM   #18 
  - Religious idiots are a waste of space...all of them  durrrty libby   Mar-18-07 08:46 PM   #20 
  - Best post of this whole thread.  FuzzyDicePHL   Mar-19-07 11:11 AM   #134 
  - Makes a person just want to shop online and have the whole shebang delivered  eleny   Mar-18-07 08:47 PM   #23 
  - This is no different from a pharmacist refusing to hand out Plan B.  Crunchy Frog   Mar-18-07 08:48 PM   #26 
  - As long as the pharmacist is fired. But, too often, they get away  MrsGrumpy   Mar-18-07 08:51 PM   #32 
  - Best reply so far.  William769   Mar-18-07 08:52 PM   #35 
  - I kinda like that last suggestion....  Liberal Veteran   Mar-19-07 08:32 AM   #101 
  - of course, it's up to the employer where they decide to draw that line  fishwax   Mar-19-07 11:55 AM   #145 
  - DING DING DING We have a winner!  mac56   Mar-19-07 08:44 AM   #108 
  - why all workplaces? Why not just those that are willing to?  fishwax   Mar-19-07 11:57 AM   #146 
  - There is a big difference. No one is keeping the customer from buying the pork.  Beaverhausen   Mar-19-07 05:45 PM   #185 
     - I agree that there's a huge difference in terms of the gravity of the consequences.  Crunchy Frog   Mar-19-07 06:44 PM   #188 
        - I disagree that the customer is humiliated or inconvenienced  Beaverhausen   Mar-19-07 06:55 PM   #189 
           - Well, I disagree, but that's what makes for diversity.  Crunchy Frog   Mar-19-07 07:32 PM   #191 
           - If a Christian fundie told you  Katzenkavalier   Mar-20-07 01:32 AM   #214 
  - Just like the Christian pharmacist who refuses to dispense birth control pills,  muntrv   Mar-18-07 08:52 PM   #34 
  - You're outraged over this tempest in a teapot? Get real.  MethuenProgressive   Mar-18-07 08:57 PM   #39 
  - Can you see the new signs over the cashier stations?  eleny   Mar-18-07 08:59 PM   #44 
  - With the little note...new items added weekly.  MrsGrumpy   Mar-18-07 09:04 PM   #54 
  - Still waiting for the no condoms  question everything   Mar-18-07 10:06 PM   #64 
     - I debated on making a sign with condoms but opted for the pills instead  eleny   Mar-18-07 10:18 PM   #71 
        - LOL, imagine this (nt)  question everything   Mar-18-07 10:44 PM   #77 
  - Did they know Target sold pork products? Because if so, merely working there  WinkyDink   Mar-18-07 09:36 PM   #57 
  - You make a good point  Lone_Star_Dem   Mar-19-07 10:45 AM   #126 
  - If I worked at a place that sold dog meat for human consumption, I would not be able to do it  MGD   Mar-18-07 10:14 PM   #66 
  - Maybe they are IN their country of origin.  lwfern   Mar-19-07 08:53 PM   #197 
  - If your religion gets in the way of your job, get a different job!  Az_lefty   Mar-18-07 10:15 PM   #68 
  - Or a different religion.  Crunchy Frog   Mar-19-07 07:29 PM   #190 
  - I wonder...  Oldtimeralso   Mar-18-07 10:15 PM   #69 
  - for goodness sakes. i dont like guns. I'm not going to work in a gun store.  robinlynne   Mar-18-07 10:18 PM   #72 
  - There are a load of Somali immigants who live in Minneapolis  Ninja Jordan   Mar-18-07 10:18 PM   #73 
  - Straw-man argument, folks.  SoCalDem   Mar-18-07 10:21 PM   #74 
  - Sooo  spoony   Mar-19-07 03:29 AM   #81 
     - Nope.. didn't say that.  SoCalDem   Mar-19-07 03:38 AM   #82 
        - It's either an issue or it isn't  spoony   Mar-19-07 03:40 AM   #83 
           - Why is it all of a sudden , an "issue"?  SoCalDem   Mar-19-07 03:46 AM   #84 
              - Yeah---what ABOUT those "Cosmo" mags getting past the Muslim cashiers?!  WinkyDink   Mar-19-07 04:16 PM   #170 
  - That's kind of weird.  Turbineguy   Mar-18-07 10:36 PM   #75 
  - There's nothing against touching pork in Islam  Hatalles   Mar-18-07 10:43 PM   #76 
  - WOW!, for a group of supposedly tolerant progressives  hogwyld   Mar-19-07 04:15 AM   #86 
  - Nope. I decidedly don't want to anyone fired over this  cali   Mar-19-07 07:28 AM   #88 
  - I also think Target's solution is good  hogwyld   Mar-19-07 09:50 PM   #204 
  - Do you respect the beliefs of those  Goblinmonger   Mar-19-07 08:29 AM   #99 
  - Obviously apples and oranges  hogwyld   Mar-19-07 09:46 PM   #203 
  - I can make a whole list of potentially offensive products a cashier might not want to scan  cryingshame   Mar-19-07 08:31 AM   #100 
  - Muslims and Christians get the same amount of religious rights  gollygee   Mar-19-07 08:36 AM   #103 
  - There's nothing immoral about belittling *beliefs*.  Donald Ian Rankin   Mar-19-07 08:38 AM   #105 
  - "If you don't want to handle my loaf of bread due to some Jim Jones ruling, no problem."  WinkyDink   Mar-19-07 04:18 PM   #172 
  - Sorry, I can't respond to your post, as you have the word "hog" in your username.  Crunchy Frog   Mar-19-07 07:37 PM   #192 
     - LOL!  hogwyld   Mar-19-07 09:43 PM   #202 
  - Would gloves help?  dogday   Mar-19-07 08:05 AM   #90 
  - It is absolutely ridiculous that this is even an issue  noonwitch   Mar-19-07 08:06 AM   #92 
  - No. A lawsuit stands very little chance of success.  cali   Mar-19-07 08:11 AM   #93 
  - I've waited 5-10 minutes in line, get to the cashier and she/he refuses to scan my X  cryingshame   Mar-19-07 08:39 AM   #107 
  - It is a sin for muslims to work at Target.  Rosemary2205   Mar-19-07 08:16 AM   #95 
  - My wife is a regional manager for an international retail chain.  Jonathan50   Mar-19-07 08:21 AM   #96 
  - Refusal to do his job is grounds for termination.  Rosemary2205   Mar-19-07 08:27 AM   #98 
  - He isn't refusing to do his job  Jonathan50   Mar-19-07 08:45 AM   #109 
     - How did your wife handle it?  youthere   Mar-19-07 09:06 AM   #112 
     - One of the reasons she is in her position with no college education  Jonathan50   Mar-19-07 09:31 AM   #118 
        - Good for her!  youthere   Mar-19-07 11:24 AM   #138 
           - I second that!  question everything   Mar-19-07 04:39 PM   #180 
     - Um, yeah he is refusing to do his job.  progressoid   Mar-19-07 12:16 PM   #150 
     - Refusing to take orders from your wife, his boss, IS refusing to do his job.  Midlodemocrat   Mar-19-07 12:31 PM   #155 
  - easy stuff  Mushroom   Mar-19-07 09:41 AM   #119 
  - this one is a no brainer  VelmaD   Mar-19-07 11:12 AM   #135 
  - Fire his arse, and see if he obeys THAT.  WinkyDink   Mar-19-07 04:25 PM   #177 
  - Fire his ass!  Crunchy Frog   Mar-19-07 07:46 PM   #194 
  - I think Target is overreacting a little  nuxvomica   Mar-19-07 08:24 AM   #97 
  - Right, exactly.  treestar   Mar-19-07 08:39 AM   #106 
     - Straw man argument.  mac56   Mar-19-07 08:57 AM   #110 
        - If you selectively refuse to show up to work on certain days  treestar   Mar-19-07 09:06 AM   #111 
           - You CAN schedule around religious holidays  jmowreader   Mar-19-07 09:52 AM   #121 
           - There is a difference between refusing to work on certain days  question everything   Mar-19-07 04:53 PM   #181 
  - I don't think it would be such a burden to scan my own pork  treestar   Mar-19-07 08:36 AM   #102 
  - This isn't just about pork products  fujiyama   Mar-19-07 05:28 PM   #183 
  - Good for Target for trying to accommodate all sides, but...  havocmom   Mar-19-07 09:14 AM   #115 
  - If you look upthread a bit  Jonathan50   Mar-19-07 10:56 AM   #132 
     - Some sects go beyond not taking directions/orders from a woman  havocmom   Mar-19-07 11:06 AM   #133 
        - Damn good point! n/t  FyurFly   Mar-19-07 11:25 AM   #139 
  - Who the hell goes to Target for food, anyway?  KansDem   Mar-19-07 09:52 AM   #120 
  - That's what I was wondering, too  depakid   Mar-19-07 09:52 PM   #205 
  - SuperTargets have a full grocery in addition to the usual target fare  fishwax   Mar-20-07 01:23 AM   #211 
  - Some Target stores - in the Twin Cities areas, at least -  question everything   Mar-20-07 01:14 AM   #209 
  - good lord, dont eat it if you dont want  lies and propaganda   Mar-19-07 10:29 AM   #122 
  - Bush is porking the world!  Hubert Flottz   Mar-19-07 10:35 AM   #124 
  - how can these people accept paychecks from a company that sells pork in the first place...?  QuestionAll   Mar-19-07 10:35 AM   #125 
  - ugh  jollyreaper2112   Mar-19-07 10:46 AM   #127 
  - If I'm Working An IT HelpDesk, and I Convert to being Amish.  Yavin4   Mar-19-07 10:46 AM   #128 
  - Walking around naked is only allowed  ItNerd4life   Mar-19-07 12:27 PM   #153 
  - Those Amish Are Cheating  Yavin4   Mar-19-07 12:31 PM   #156 
  - You know, this reminds me of the Muslim woman  question everything   Mar-19-07 04:57 PM   #182 
     - Do people on DU even realize that some Muslims are Americans?  lwfern   Mar-19-07 08:56 PM   #198 
        - The American Muslims are not part of this, in general  question everything   Mar-19-07 09:12 PM   #200 
           - given your last line ...  lwfern   Mar-19-07 09:22 PM   #201 
  - Seems like nobody was having a problem...  Bornaginhooligan   Mar-19-07 10:48 AM   #129 
  - Hot dog!  geardaddy   Mar-19-07 03:16 PM   #163 
  - That is pretty radical for a corporation. I would just fire them.  Rex   Mar-19-07 11:51 AM   #144 
  - I Say They're Lucky Target's Gracious Enough To Transfer Them Instead Of Fire Them.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-19-07 12:11 PM   #149 
  - Target should have fired their fundie asses!  951-Riverside   Mar-19-07 12:22 PM   #151 
  - Although I agree with you, I am impressed by Targets 'compassion'  Rex   Mar-19-07 12:23 PM   #152 
     - Target is really showing its 'cowardice'  951-Riverside   Mar-19-07 12:36 PM   #158 
  - What if my religion doesn't allow me to serve Republicans?  ItNerd4life   Mar-19-07 12:29 PM   #154 
  - A Standard Question on All Job Applications Ask If There Are Duties  Yavin4   Mar-19-07 12:33 PM   #157 
  - What if I work at Wal-Mart, and don't want to ring up guns or ammo?  mac56   Mar-19-07 02:42 PM   #159 
  - I'd rather have seen them fired, but can understand Target's reluctance to get involved with a  AZBlue   Mar-19-07 03:29 PM   #167 
  - They can't be cashiers  JustABozoOnThisBus   Mar-19-07 04:26 PM   #178 
  - I see a different issue: Cashiers of all and any stripe are supposed to act  WinkyDink   Mar-19-07 04:33 PM   #179 
  - Target was more cooperative and compassionate than needed  fujiyama   Mar-19-07 05:39 PM   #184 
  - ...like deja vu all over again.  Madspirit   Mar-19-07 08:59 PM   #199 
  - I cannot believe some of the comments I'm seeing in this thread  BushOut06   Mar-19-07 10:01 PM   #206 
  - All fundies are the same to me, let them be Christian or Muslim or whatever  Katzenkavalier   Mar-20-07 01:29 AM   #212 
  - It isn't as serious, but it is the same idea  gollygee   Mar-20-07 04:43 PM   #216 
  - kick  heatstreak   Mar-20-07 05:46 PM   #217 
 

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