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danalytical Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 09:59 AM
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27. Are you mad?
For crying out loud I can barley pay rent and finally SOMETHING costs less than a year ago. And you want to tax it and give it to the government so that next summer we pay $6 a gallon?
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  -I just paid under $2.00 for gas. This would be a perfect time to Increase the gas tax a dollar. curse of greyface  Nov-11-08 09:29 AM   #0 
  - NO  Bryn   Nov-11-08 09:32 AM   #1 
  - Try thinking  tama   Nov-11-08 09:35 AM   #6 
  - People who were inclined to give Peak Oil consideration when  Texas Explorer   Nov-11-08 01:29 PM   #98 
  - So you are using more gas because the price is to cheap...  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 10:22 AM   #38 
     - Those two dogs are being trained to be my next service dogs  Bryn   Nov-11-08 10:44 AM   #50 
        - I wasn't judging (Honest officer) I was trying to make da point.  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 10:46 AM   #51 
        - I am so sorry to hear about what happened to Shane....  OwnedByFerrets   Nov-11-08 12:48 PM   #92 
  - SS....I am barely making it now....as are millions of others.....  OwnedByFerrets   Nov-11-08 09:32 AM   #2 
  - He's right  tama   Nov-11-08 09:38 AM   #9 
  - as one of those milions, I agree with you completely.  dana_b   Nov-11-08 02:39 PM   #115 
  - Someone  tama   Nov-11-08 09:33 AM   #3 
  - Well, the fossil fuel addicts would rather tax the nicotine addicts.  TahitiNut   Nov-11-08 12:17 PM   #87 
     - And this nicotine addict wants to  leftynyc   Nov-11-08 02:13 PM   #110 
        - As a designated driver for two decades who's "fallen off the wagon" by doctor's orders ....  TahitiNut   Nov-11-08 03:07 PM   #127 
           - I just object to people wanting to tax  leftynyc   Nov-11-08 03:20 PM   #131 
           - Well, maybe we'll see more gasoline being sold ...  TahitiNut   Nov-11-08 03:43 PM   #134 
           - Sorry. Dupe  leftynyc   Nov-11-08 03:20 PM   #132 
  - No way! Bad, bad, bad idea.  Dappleganger   Nov-11-08 09:33 AM   #4 
  - So when we run out of oil in your lifetime what then? nt  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 02:03 PM   #109 
     - Peak oil is a myth...  ddeclue   Nov-11-08 05:14 PM   #160 
        - Oil is not evenly distributed across the planet  NickB79   Nov-11-08 09:24 PM   #191 
  - A huge regressive tax?  gollygee   Nov-11-08 09:34 AM   #5 
  - Actually, we should get the new Administration to review all regressive taxes.....  FredMertz   Nov-11-08 09:48 AM   #15 
  - How many minimum wage workers buy gas now?  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 09:52 AM   #19 
     - No- we are not europe  Marrah_G   Nov-11-08 10:05 AM   #30 
     - Very well put .. even Democrats need to realize that those at the bottom  FredMertz   Nov-11-08 10:27 AM   #43 
     - Plenty of people in Europe drive. (Have you been to Spain or Ireland talk about rural.)  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 12:12 PM   #85 
     - No one is saying thos things aren't good  Marrah_G   Nov-11-08 12:44 PM   #91 
        - Why do people in America (I'm including myself here) own cars with bad mileage.  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 01:43 PM   #104 
           - No, we aren't forced to this time  gollygee   Nov-11-08 01:49 PM   #106 
           - We will run out of "Affordable" oil in forty years.  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 02:33 PM   #113 
              - We can prepare by taxing the oil companies  gollygee   Nov-11-08 04:04 PM   #142 
                 - You might gain some ground by taxing the wealthy but  flstci   Nov-11-08 05:13 PM   #159 
                    - Yeah that isn't a great solution either  gollygee   Nov-11-08 05:15 PM   #162 
           - Why do I not have one?  Marrah_G   Nov-11-08 02:41 PM   #116 
     - Too many people  gaspee   Nov-11-08 02:21 PM   #112 
     - No, Europe is larger than the USA.  MattSh   Nov-12-08 09:44 AM   #199 
        - larger yes- but with about 4 times the population density  Marrah_G   Nov-12-08 10:18 AM   #201 
     - Please make believe I said "working poor"  FredMertz   Nov-11-08 10:22 AM   #39 
     - yeah, public transportation is just great in this country. NOT.  cali   Nov-11-08 10:58 AM   #61 
  - No one is saying the Bush tax cuts shouldn't be reversed.  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 09:50 AM   #17 
  - The poorest of the poor in a place where public transportation is available won't be hurt  gollygee   Nov-11-08 09:53 AM   #20 
     - Indeed, often in the richest parts of the country  intheflow   Nov-11-08 01:55 PM   #108 
  - Yep. Now, private jet fuel...  RUMMYisFROSTED   Nov-11-08 09:59 AM   #26 
  - No thanks - sooner or later the price will go up again, and that tax won't go away.  jmg257   Nov-11-08 09:36 AM   #7 
  - Higher gas prices are coming sooner than later  itsrobert   Nov-11-08 09:37 AM   #8 
  - Sorry cog  tama   Nov-11-08 09:39 AM   #10 
  - This is a large structural problem.  MPK   Nov-11-08 10:03 AM   #29 
  - Your countrymen (and women) are hungry and having trouble heating their houses  gollygee   Nov-11-08 10:07 AM   #32 
  - Did you see the thread about food banks in the US running out of money  renie408   Nov-11-08 10:27 AM   #44 
  - What Country do you live in, so we can judge you and your countrymen?  Blue State Native   Nov-11-08 11:11 AM   #65 
  - Wow, anyone who doesn't agree with you is an idiot .... wow. N/T  flstci   Nov-11-08 11:26 AM   #74 
  - We don't live in a command economy or a dictatorship in the United States...  ddeclue   Nov-11-08 06:23 PM   #176 
  - No, that's a horrible horrible idea  tammywammy   Nov-11-08 09:40 AM   #11 
  - Yep. Two words to describe this well intentioned and in a perfect world a good idea:  elocs   Nov-11-08 09:43 AM   #12 
  - Our gas taxes are to low. We need to raise them at some point.  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 09:44 AM   #13 
     - Not everyone can afford to run out and buy a Prius  gollygee   Nov-11-08 09:47 AM   #14 
     - That's the risk you take  tammywammy   Nov-11-08 09:49 AM   #16 
     - I remember when gas was $4, many said that we should have taxed gas when it was much cheaper,  pampango   Nov-11-08 09:54 AM   #22 
     - Reminds me of that Daily Show video with the woman complaining about America losing jobs.  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 10:06 AM   #31 
        - I can afford it  gollygee   Nov-11-08 10:09 AM   #34 
        - This tax would be extraordinarily regressive!  ddeclue   Nov-11-08 05:34 PM   #164 
     - You are wrong  Marrah_G   Nov-11-08 10:09 AM   #33 
     - So when gas goes back up and nobody has invested in alternative energy  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 10:21 AM   #37 
        - You don't get it- You are putting the pain on those least able to do anything about the problem  Marrah_G   Nov-11-08 10:47 AM   #52 
     - don't you live in a smug little world where buyijng a fuel efficient car is  cali   Nov-11-08 11:02 AM   #64 
     - I drive a 1995 Crown Vic. Boy I guess "you" dodged a bullet when the 2000 election was stolen.  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 11:21 AM   #71 
        - Then if it's so "easy" to go out and get a more fuel-efficient vehicle,  iris27   Nov-11-08 03:57 PM   #139 
     - Like all those Americans who uhhh deliver your groceries? N/T  flstci   Nov-11-08 11:28 AM   #75 
     - So then why don't we tax the daylights out of any NEW purchase of a gashog.  iris27   Nov-11-08 03:53 PM   #138 
     - dupe  iris27   Nov-11-08 04:00 PM   #140 
     - Absolutely WRONG...  ddeclue   Nov-11-08 06:26 PM   #177 
  - Wrong.  MPK   Nov-11-08 09:51 AM   #18 
  - EXCELLENT IDEA!!!  Herman74   Nov-11-08 09:53 AM   #21 
  - The Netherlands is 8000 sq mi smaller than West Virginia. No shit  renie408   Nov-11-08 10:33 AM   #47 
  - Also very densely populated  Marrah_G   Nov-12-08 10:22 AM   #202 
  - yeah, sure, I'd LOVE a 90-minute bicycle commute to my job...thanks! n/t  iris27   Nov-11-08 04:03 PM   #141 
  - That's insane. I am extremely happy that gas has finally come down.  RebelOne   Nov-11-08 09:54 AM   #23 
  - NO- JUST FUCKING NO  Marrah_G   Nov-11-08 09:54 AM   #24 
  - just because it's down now...does not mean it will stay down  Gin   Nov-11-08 09:58 AM   #25 
  - Are you mad?  danalytical   Nov-11-08 09:59 AM   #27 
  - the taxes raised go into a black hole. we're 4 trillion dollars in debt  bigtree   Nov-11-08 10:03 AM   #28 
  - I agree. (boy do I agree) but revenue gains is only part of this.  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 10:13 AM   #35 
  - Not everyone can afford $3.00 gas like you apparently can. nt  Kahuna   Nov-11-08 10:20 AM   #36 
  - I've been unemployed for 11 months and have a 1995 crown vic.  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 10:23 AM   #41 
     - Yet you can afford to donate to the DU. That is probably NOT the choice I would have  renie408   Nov-11-08 10:37 AM   #48 
     - I love this... let me savor for a moment.... My star was donated  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 10:44 AM   #49 
     - I apologize for the donation comment...  renie408   Nov-11-08 10:55 AM   #58 
        - It's not a depression. You haven't seen a depression until you lived through the 1930s.  Selatius   Nov-11-08 02:50 PM   #122 
           - True that. Heck this isn't early Eighties bad yet. nt  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 07:06 PM   #182 
     - Many people who can afford it donate stars to those who can't  Marrah_G   Nov-11-08 10:49 AM   #55 
     - I apologize for the rude comment. It was a cheap shot on my part..  Kahuna   Nov-11-08 04:13 PM   #144 
     - No problem  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 04:17 PM   #145 
     - I'll bet my pick-up gets better mileage than your car,  flstci   Nov-11-08 05:17 PM   #163 
  - Yes  jaksavage   Nov-11-08 10:22 AM   #40 
  - $4/gallon gas is what put the economy over the cliff. We may be able  dkofos   Nov-11-08 10:27 AM   #42 
  - And the politician who never wants to be reelected again and wants to be hounded out of office  renie408   Nov-11-08 10:28 AM   #45 
  - only if  GTRMAN   Nov-11-08 10:31 AM   #46 
  - I agree universal Health care needs to be implemented.  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 11:31 AM   #76 
     - exactly  GTRMAN   Nov-11-08 11:37 AM   #77 
  - Well, we're still paying over $3.50 here, so no thanks. n/t  greyhound1966   Nov-11-08 10:47 AM   #53 
  - Call me paranoid, but the reason gas is so low right now  CaptJasHook   Nov-11-08 10:48 AM   #54 
  - I think it actually will STAY down now that we have control of all the elected branches...  ddeclue   Nov-11-08 05:40 PM   #166 
  - Really Dumb Idea, And Obviously The Product Of Someone Who Knows Very Little As To What They're  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Nov-11-08 10:50 AM   #56 
  - Some people are external processors, some internal  CaptJasHook   Nov-11-08 10:55 AM   #59 
  - It might not come off as idiocy if it were couched in different terms.  renie408   Nov-11-08 10:58 AM   #60 
  - Perhaps, I just mean that perhaps you are being a little harsh  CaptJasHook   Nov-11-08 11:02 AM   #62 
  - See my response to OMC below...  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 11:15 AM   #69 
  - My momma told me to THINK before your SPEAK...  ddeclue   Nov-11-08 05:49 PM   #167 
  - I don't know I think I'm in pretty good company.  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 11:02 AM   #63 
     - Just Because You Can Find Others With The Same Bad Idea. . .  ProfessorGAC   Nov-11-08 11:40 AM   #78 
  - Hell, no!  notsodumbhillbilly   Nov-11-08 10:53 AM   #57 
  - Go to hell.  Throd   Nov-11-08 11:11 AM   #66 
  - So I can mark you down as a no.... let me ask you? What are you doing to combat  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 11:44 AM   #81 
     - Apparently, we want solutions that do not increase our costs or affect our jobs or incomes.  pampango   Nov-11-08 01:06 PM   #95 
        - We want solutions that won't cause us or our children to go hungry  gollygee   Nov-11-08 01:32 PM   #100 
           - So three dollar a gallon gas with a third of the cost going to the government  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 01:38 PM   #102 
              - Well yes actually although it's not what you're thinking  gollygee   Nov-11-08 01:41 PM   #103 
              - You are assuming gas is going to stay down  Marrah_G   Nov-11-08 02:44 PM   #118 
                 - No it is going higher ...much higher. We are in the eye of the storm.  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 02:50 PM   #123 
                    - This is a mindless assertion NOT based on ANY facts.  ddeclue   Nov-11-08 06:05 PM   #172 
                       - You keep posting this same bullshit don't you?  Nihil   Nov-12-08 03:41 AM   #196 
  - go higher and rebate  walktall7   Nov-11-08 11:12 AM   #67 
  - I'd like to see the economy rebound a good deal before something like this is even considered.  alison   Nov-11-08 11:14 AM   #68 
  - I would like to add:  MPK   Nov-11-08 11:20 AM   #70 
  - Bad, bad idea.  flstci   Nov-11-08 11:24 AM   #72 
  - Are you out of your DAMNED mind? n/t  demdog78   Nov-11-08 11:24 AM   #73 
  - Your idea sucks  JVS   Nov-11-08 11:41 AM   #79 
  - If nothing else  NoMoreMyths   Nov-11-08 11:42 AM   #80 
  - Are you rural?  flstci   Nov-11-08 11:46 AM   #82 
  - No i have been an would love to be again but can't afford it.  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 12:07 PM   #84 
     - In 10 years  flstci   Nov-11-08 12:40 PM   #90 
     - Peak Oil is a myth...  ddeclue   Nov-11-08 06:37 PM   #179 
        - And NO oil has been found EXCEPT on the Continental shelves.  happyslug   Nov-12-08 09:37 PM   #206 
  - A straight tax increase won't work, but don't think the low prices will last if action isn't taken.  backscatter712   Nov-11-08 12:01 PM   #83 
  - No freaking way.  Radical Activist   Nov-11-08 12:14 PM   #86 
  - A large tax credit could offset completely the increased burden to the poor  wuushew   Nov-11-08 12:26 PM   #88 
  - When you live paycheck to paycheck a tax credit in february doesn't mean much in july.  Marrah_G   Nov-11-08 12:49 PM   #93 
     - Maybe the credit could operate like the stimulus checks  wuushew   Nov-11-08 03:02 PM   #126 
  - Not having a choice isn't the same as "willing" ...  Ghost in the Machine   Nov-11-08 12:32 PM   #89 
  - Nope, Regressive Tax  lligrd   Nov-11-08 12:55 PM   #94 
  - Agreed, only if the funds are dedicated to the development of an electric  loindelrio   Nov-11-08 01:16 PM   #96 
  - Absolutely agree. I wrote a paper in 1977 advocating a 50-cent tax  Ron_Green   Nov-11-08 01:16 PM   #97 
  - FYI: John Anderson got 6% of the vote...  ddeclue   Nov-11-08 06:10 PM   #173 
  - Our gas tax has not been adjusted for inflation. it is only .25 cents a gallon.  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 08:15 PM   #185 
  - FYI: John Anderson got 6% of the vote...  ddeclue   Nov-11-08 06:10 PM   #174 
     - LOL! So you're a Reagan fan, is that it?  Ron_Green   Nov-12-08 12:33 AM   #192 
  - Do it gradually  Mark Baker   Nov-11-08 01:29 PM   #99 
  - Finally! A sensible post!  Nihil   Nov-12-08 03:44 AM   #197 
  - I was never willing to pay $4.00/gallon. I was forced to.  funkybug   Nov-11-08 01:33 PM   #101 
  - Horrible idea  socordsx   Nov-11-08 01:43 PM   #105 
  - I have a problem paying for gas.  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 01:53 PM   #107 
  - We've controlled the government less than a week and you already want to give it back to gop?  no limit   Nov-11-08 02:16 PM   #111 
  - NO!! We have to pay for the bailout, we have to pay for  dana_b   Nov-11-08 02:37 PM   #114 
  - "We need the money..."  slackmaster   Nov-11-08 02:43 PM   #117 
  - I'm speechless. you know that is the argument for Republican tax cuts. nt  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 02:47 PM   #119 
     - Just as "We need the money" is the argument for Socialist confiscatory taxes  slackmaster   Nov-11-08 02:48 PM   #120 
  - Spoken like someone who has escaped the pain  JNelson6563   Nov-11-08 02:49 PM   #121 
  - Not if you increased the Minimum Wage and shored up poverty-relief programs.  Selatius   Nov-11-08 02:54 PM   #124 
  - Fair enough. Those two things along with Universal Health care should be a given. nt  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 02:59 PM   #125 
  - While Alaska's "governor"  Blue_In_AK   Nov-11-08 03:07 PM   #128 
  - The contempt for the rural working class on DU never fails to astound me  WildEyedLiberal   Nov-11-08 03:10 PM   #129 
  - x2 N/T  flstci   Nov-11-08 04:18 PM   #146 
  - I don't know where you live but...  Ohio Joe   Nov-11-08 03:11 PM   #130 
  - So you need mass transit. A gas tax can provide mass transit.  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 03:37 PM   #133 
     - Now your changing what you propose  Ohio Joe   Nov-11-08 04:20 PM   #147 
     - Most local mass transit receives grant monies from the federal government .  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 08:28 PM   #186 
     - You apparently have NO idea of the geographic scale of many Americans' lives...  ddeclue   Nov-11-08 06:42 PM   #180 
  - Yeah, because I can afford to put gas in my car.  Tilion   Nov-11-08 03:45 PM   #135 
  - No, that would be a regressive tax  Dumak   Nov-11-08 03:52 PM   #136 
  - YES! Thank you. I don't get why no one else comes to this conclusion!  iris27   Nov-11-08 04:22 PM   #148 
  - The term gas guzzler is relative  taterguy   Nov-11-08 05:00 PM   #154 
     - OP is proposing a huge gas tax and you can't even afford  flstci   Nov-11-08 05:09 PM   #157 
        - Back tire is fine, it just has a different type of thread than the front one  taterguy   Nov-11-08 05:15 PM   #161 
           - Oooops! LOL  flstci   Nov-11-08 06:32 PM   #178 
              - I only use water for long distance rides  taterguy   Nov-12-08 04:22 AM   #198 
  - damn what is wrong with SOME people  bobbydem   Nov-11-08 04:26 PM   #149 
  - A gas tax efficiently taxes just those people.  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 04:38 PM   #150 
     - Poor people sometimes have to drive distances and often have bad cars  gollygee   Nov-11-08 04:39 PM   #151 
  - when we are in a HUGE hole..stop digging  bobbydem   Nov-11-08 03:53 PM   #137 
  - Sigh, worst economic disaster in our lifetimes and you want to raise gas taxes....  RollWithIt   Nov-11-08 04:08 PM   #143 
  - A win win is me paying less for petrol....I have to drive a vehicle to work.  ileus   Nov-11-08 04:45 PM   #152 
  - Give me a break,  Sewsojm   Nov-11-08 04:57 PM   #153 
  - NO - I can't afford this expensive gas crap any more...  ddeclue   Nov-11-08 05:01 PM   #155 
  - Hello!!! I aplogized for the rude remark. I still don't want $3 gas,,  Kahuna   Nov-11-08 05:03 PM   #156 
  - Why don't we just tax the rich and spend it on alternative energy  gravity   Nov-11-08 05:13 PM   #158 
  - No...no...no....winter is coming and some of us are already having to heat our homes  carlyhippy   Nov-11-08 05:38 PM   #165 
  - Or you could cut defense budget in half and end the war.  Evoman   Nov-11-08 05:53 PM   #168 
  - Yeah right, then we'd have to bail out Halliburton, GE, Bechtel, etc. nm  rhett o rick   Nov-11-08 06:03 PM   #170 
  - SOCIALISM SOCIALISM SOCIALISM SOCIALISM --Good idea. nm  rhett o rick   Nov-11-08 06:01 PM   #169 
  - Are you nucking futs?  Lil Missy   Nov-11-08 06:05 PM   #171 
  - No, at this point in time we need that extra dollar to be used...  yawnmaster   Nov-11-08 06:18 PM   #175 
  - YES - this phoenomena is known as "inelastic demand"  ddeclue   Nov-11-08 06:47 PM   #181 
     - We know demand is elastic Doug since consumption fell dramatically due to price increases.  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 09:00 PM   #188 
     - We know demand is elastic Doug since consumption fell dramatically due to price increases.  curse of greyface   Nov-11-08 09:00 PM   #189 
     - In rural areas you will see a reduction in use given the higher price  happyslug   Nov-12-08 10:19 PM   #207 
  - No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  mbergen   Nov-11-08 07:10 PM   #183 
  - Maybe you can convince Obama to do that in January.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-11-08 07:22 PM   #184 
  - nice try Pelosi.  ohio2007   Nov-11-08 08:38 PM   #187 
  - Oil companies are keeping gas prices low to influence school board primaries  Telly Savalas   Nov-11-08 09:09 PM   #190 
  - Heh. nt  Occam Bandage   Nov-12-08 10:24 AM   #205 
  - This is one of the dumbest things ever posted at DU.  donheld   Nov-12-08 12:44 AM   #193 
  - I read an article at CNN/Money suggesting this same thing today  tritsofme   Nov-12-08 01:23 AM   #194 
  - do you KNOW any poor people?  Skittles   Nov-12-08 02:24 AM   #195 
  - The OP is eating granite. Just FYI.  MPK   Nov-12-08 09:48 AM   #200 
  - YAY Mods!  Marrah_G   Nov-12-08 10:23 AM   #203 
     - Why the celebration?  wuushew   Nov-12-08 10:27 PM   #210 
  - I'm in favor of raising the gas tax. A dollar seems excessive. nt  Occam Bandage   Nov-12-08 10:24 AM   #204 
  - i saw a hummer out driving around today  orleans   Nov-12-08 10:20 PM   #208 
  - You'd have a better chance of legalizing all drugs than raising the gas tax  Hippo_Tron   Nov-12-08 10:23 PM   #209 
  - Locking  krispos42   Nov-13-08 01:08 AM   #211 
 

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