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Tue Nov-11-08 04:26 PM
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| 96. I always assumed Obama would govern even to the right of Clinton. |
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But with language more appealing to the tone of the center-slight-left.
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| -The mood of the Obama transition has been decidedly centrist |
bigtree |
Nov-10-08 09:08 PM |
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I Think All The People And Decisions Made So Far Have Been Perfect. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Nov-10-08 09:09 PM |
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that doesn't answer my question at all |
bigtree |
Nov-10-08 09:10 PM |
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Nov-10-08 09:57 PM |
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wow gee big surprise there. |
FarceOfNature |
Nov-10-08 10:38 PM |
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Me, too |
Tallison |
Nov-11-08 09:44 PM |
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excellent transition. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-10-08 09:10 PM |
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where are the progressives? |
bigtree |
Nov-10-08 09:10 PM |
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he's not done yet. I think we will see a nice balance. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-10-08 09:11 PM |
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Would this work? |
babylonsister |
Nov-10-08 09:10 PM |
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hey, that's intriguing |
bigtree |
Nov-10-08 09:14 PM |
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Just announced today, so probably not much yet. But give it time. |
babylonsister |
Nov-10-08 09:16 PM |
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Lux is a dynamic thinker |
bigtree |
Nov-10-08 09:20 PM |
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Pete Rouse has managed his senate office |
sandnsea |
Nov-10-08 09:13 PM |
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I don't equate our Democratic left with 'socialism' |
bigtree |
Nov-10-08 09:19 PM |
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There are DUers who are proud that they're socialists |
sandnsea |
Nov-10-08 09:31 PM |
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maybe you need to have that debate with folks who declare themselves socialists |
bigtree |
Nov-10-08 09:38 PM |
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Iraq? Abortion? WTF are you talking about? |
sandnsea |
Nov-10-08 10:11 PM |
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you can't convince me that there aren't important differences |
bigtree |
Nov-10-08 10:20 PM |
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None of that is an issue right now |
sandnsea |
Nov-10-08 10:34 PM |
#27 |
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Is this a discussion board or a cheerleading session? |
bigtree |
Nov-10-08 10:42 PM |
#29 |
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You're not discussing anything |
sandnsea |
Nov-10-08 11:18 PM |
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back again? |
bigtree |
Nov-10-08 11:20 PM |
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Funny how some posters will take a stand on Prop 8 but CELEBRATE other outrages. |
Leopolds Ghost |
Nov-11-08 10:34 AM |
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hey bigtree |
Skittles |
Nov-11-08 07:52 PM |
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I was actually trying to figure out who he was talking to |
Horse with no Name |
Nov-12-08 03:11 AM |
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"I guarantee you there will be plenty of very real things that you will not be happy about" |
Leopolds Ghost |
Nov-11-08 10:30 AM |
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"I guarantee you there will be plenty of very real things that you will not be happy about" |
Leopolds Ghost |
Nov-11-08 10:30 AM |
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Emanuel is extremely pro-war. |
mirror wall |
Nov-11-08 09:16 AM |
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I don't even pretend I'm a Democrat, much less "the heart of the Democratic Party" |
kenzee13 |
Nov-11-08 09:04 AM |
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Obama is a socialist. |
Leopolds Ghost |
Nov-11-08 10:25 AM |
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The bailout was the complete opposite of socialism. It was capitalism under plutocracy. |
readmoreoften |
Nov-11-08 04:24 PM |
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I'm well aware that we socialists are fringe and in fact, I don't know that socialism |
tavalon |
Nov-11-08 11:14 PM |
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Podesta |
GregD |
Nov-10-08 09:22 PM |
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He's a hard worker and dedicated to Democratic principles and action |
bigtree |
Nov-10-08 09:28 PM |
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You trot out socialism the minute someone talks about anything left of Clinton / Reagan / Bush 1 |
Leopolds Ghost |
Nov-11-08 10:18 AM |
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so all liberal democrats are socialists? |
leftofthedial |
Nov-11-08 10:23 AM |
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Obama sought out and got The New Party endorsement in his '96 state senate run. |
John Q. Citizen |
Nov-11-08 07:26 PM |
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Mike Lux, too. He's a bona fide progressive. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-10-08 09:18 PM |
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When he makes Richardson SOS I'll be happier |
shadowknows69 |
Nov-10-08 09:34 PM |
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You think? I'd peg him more in a diplomatic post. Maybe not. So |
babylonsister |
Nov-10-08 09:41 PM |
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he was initially bullish on invading Iraq |
bigtree |
Nov-10-08 09:43 PM |
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Yep. Check out Obama's economic advisors here: |
TheGoldenRule |
Nov-10-08 09:55 PM |
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Why do you bother hanging out here? You have always despised Obama. |
babylonsister |
Nov-10-08 10:20 PM |
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Some of us enjoy GR's posts and appreciate his/her candor. |
FarceOfNature |
Nov-10-08 10:44 PM |
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For starters, Obama has never been DLC-look it up. |
babylonsister |
Nov-10-08 10:57 PM |
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all true |
Two Americas |
Nov-11-08 03:12 PM |
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One needn't be a card carrying member to support DLC |
notsodumbhillbilly |
Nov-11-08 03:21 PM |
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Thank you, I appreciate that! |
TheGoldenRule |
Nov-11-08 03:25 AM |
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Well said (n/t) |
kenzee13 |
Nov-11-08 09:05 AM |
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Good post! n/t |
QC |
Nov-11-08 09:08 AM |
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we need all voices |
Two Americas |
Nov-11-08 03:02 PM |
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Nov-10-08 10:45 PM |
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No, I don't despise Obama. I want him to support the left and I want his promises kept. |
TheGoldenRule |
Nov-11-08 03:22 AM |
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"change we can believe in!!1" |
jonnyblitz |
Nov-10-08 10:54 PM |
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He is a big change. |
jaredh |
Nov-10-08 11:37 PM |
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he's a "free trade" corporatist |
leftofthedial |
Nov-11-08 10:25 AM |
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You are absolutely correct. |
TheGoldenRule |
Nov-11-08 02:39 PM |
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even if he stays right of center, where he is so far |
leftofthedial |
Nov-11-08 05:00 PM |
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Obama ran as a centrist. Why is anyone surprised that he governing as one? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-10-08 09:58 PM |
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I question whether a centrist stance can produce the clear change promised |
bigtree |
Nov-10-08 10:25 PM |
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Obama will be centrist in style. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-10-08 11:00 PM |
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he'll be pragmatic |
bigtree |
Nov-10-08 11:13 PM |
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He'll be pragmatic unless history intervenes |
tavalon |
Nov-11-08 11:23 PM |
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I'm sure that he will appoint a few token 'progressives' |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-11-08 08:45 AM |
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He said something back in the campaign that stuck in my mind |
TheDoorbellRang |
Nov-11-08 08:40 PM |
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Because voters are trending left. |
closeupready |
Nov-10-08 10:48 PM |
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They are trending from the right to the center |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-11-08 08:46 AM |
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Says who? They just elected the most liberal member of the Senate as President. |
closeupready |
Nov-11-08 09:27 AM |
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Obama did not run as a liberal, and many of the new members of Congrss are centrists |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-11-08 09:49 AM |
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Everyone knows Obama's Senate voting record is one of the most liberal, if not THE most liberal. |
closeupready |
Nov-11-08 10:12 AM |
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yes and no |
Two Americas |
Nov-11-08 03:19 PM |
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Obama's voting record is not even close to being the |
paulk |
Nov-11-08 07:36 PM |
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Despite the rights constant drumroll to that effect, it isn't true |
tavalon |
Nov-11-08 11:24 PM |
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absolutely |
Two Americas |
Nov-11-08 02:52 PM |
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I think the early "shots across the bow" of Bushco policies have been great. |
pinto |
Nov-10-08 10:58 PM |
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yeah, on Gitmo, mining, stem cells |
bigtree |
Nov-10-08 11:02 PM |
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Me too. The message from the transition team that all fed agency policies will be reviewed, |
pinto |
Nov-10-08 11:10 PM |
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I agree. He's going to reverse hundreds of policies the first day. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-10-08 11:23 PM |
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Agree. He'll have some good support in Congress, as well. |
pinto |
Nov-10-08 11:43 PM |
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According To Some Morons That Makes You A Freeper Who Wants All Far Right People Appointed. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Nov-11-08 06:32 AM |
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No it hasn't. The first things he's planning on doing- |
cali |
Nov-11-08 03:31 AM |
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another arrogant slam by cali, as if your opinion was the ONLY one that mattered |
bigtree |
Nov-11-08 08:36 AM |
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It'd be nice to see him hire real progressive liberals like Kucinich. |
Lumpsum |
Nov-11-08 03:56 AM |
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Perhaps if Kucinich had supported Obama instead of running another Quixotic campaign |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-11-08 09:57 AM |
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. |
yibbehobba |
Nov-11-08 08:37 AM |
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Politics as usual from a centrist. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-11-08 08:51 AM |
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The first job of a president after an ugly campaign is to try to bring the country back together |
gollygee |
Nov-11-08 09:07 AM |
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What exactly is the "center" |
gorbal |
Nov-11-08 09:11 AM |
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Unclear what "center" means, but we do know that Americans elected as President the most liberal |
closeupready |
Nov-11-08 09:29 AM |
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It's where both liberals and conservatives criticize you |
Freddie Stubbs |
Nov-11-08 09:51 AM |
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If, as the corporate media does, you define the right as centrist, you are right. |
leftofthedial |
Nov-11-08 10:14 AM |
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Jeebus the honeymoon was short. |
lonestarnot |
Nov-11-08 10:20 AM |
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c'mon. For starters, I don't see how why we're supposed to sit back |
bigtree |
Nov-11-08 10:26 AM |
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Guess I'm a little more than worried about this |
lonestarnot |
Nov-11-08 10:33 AM |
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that screed by Weil is sure getting play |
bigtree |
Nov-11-08 10:42 AM |
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Yes where the hell is Krugman anyway? |
lonestarnot |
Nov-11-08 10:46 AM |
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I think you are confusing mood with individual appointments. |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-11-08 03:26 PM |
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I don't think I'm confusing anything. Of course, we'll see what his policies are |
bigtree |
Nov-11-08 03:41 PM |
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Until he takes office 1-20-09, we're all just guessing. |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-11-08 03:49 PM |
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well, the query in the op is reasonable enough. |
bigtree |
Nov-11-08 03:52 PM |
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did you see this? |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-11-08 03:53 PM |
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yep, answered to it upthread |
bigtree |
Nov-11-08 03:54 PM |
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I hope there are progressives coming... |
Tilion |
Nov-11-08 03:50 PM |
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I think what you will find is that many Primary Clinton supporters will love Obama more each day. |
jesus_of_suburbia |
Nov-11-08 04:10 PM |
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trust-em politics |
bigtree |
Nov-11-08 04:18 PM |
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I always assumed Obama would govern even to the right of Clinton. |
readmoreoften |
Nov-11-08 04:26 PM |
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Yikes! |
H2O Man |
Nov-11-08 04:47 PM |
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well, |
bigtree |
Nov-11-08 05:01 PM |
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What struck me the most |
H2O Man |
Nov-11-08 05:14 PM |
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'We all have different points of view.' |
bigtree |
Nov-11-08 05:57 PM |
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re: being perplexed about wait and see |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-11-08 06:37 PM |
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Interesting. |
H2O Man |
Nov-11-08 07:59 PM |
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I look forward to seeing what a community organizer can do with this mess. |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-11-08 10:25 PM |
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He was the Democratic Party candidate not the Progressive Party candidate |
cobalt1999 |
Nov-11-08 05:28 PM |
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that center shifted to the right in every bill Democrats voted with republicans on |
bigtree |
Nov-11-08 06:19 PM |
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Slightly left of center???? |
readmoreoften |
Nov-11-08 06:26 PM |
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god, I hope so. |
Lerkfish |
Nov-11-08 06:56 PM |
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I'm not seeing any signs of it. |
LWolf |
Nov-11-08 07:03 PM |
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I think you've got it just right about where to focus your political energy |
bigtree |
Nov-11-08 07:09 PM |
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The "mood" is centrist. What does that mean? |
Turn CO Blue |
Nov-11-08 07:17 PM |
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first of all you can take your 'suspicions' about my 'motivations' and shove them |
bigtree |
Nov-11-08 07:36 PM |
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The transition team isn't going to fold because we don't like this appointment or that |
tavalon |
Nov-12-08 02:12 AM |
#126 |
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Obama is somewhat centrist himself |
Truth Teller |
Nov-11-08 07:48 PM |
#113 |
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Given that he's barely appointed anyone yet, I think we ought to wait |
liberalpragmatist |
Nov-11-08 07:52 PM |
#114 |
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Seems like Obama will govern like Bill Clinton, minus the scandals |
MathGuy |
Nov-11-08 09:40 PM |
#118 |
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He's a centrist |
tavalon |
Nov-11-08 11:09 PM |
#121 |
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The weather this winter has been decidedly warmer. Better not buy new skis. |
asSEENonTV |
Nov-11-08 11:26 PM |
#125 |
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