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Mon Nov-10-08 10:17 AM
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| 9. It is a revision, not an amendment. |
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And, the entire Proposition will likely be ruled Unconstitutional. A revision that seeks to take away currently held rights would violate the Constitution. It will never be ratified, which it would need to be to become a "revision".
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| -Ah-nold on CNN: Prop 8 Is Wrong; CASC Will Overturn |
stopbush |
Nov-10-08 10:06 AM |
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doe ahnold understand the concept of a constitutional amendment? |
enki23 |
Nov-10-08 10:07 AM |
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It is against to Constitution to TAKE AWAY rights. |
tekisui |
Nov-10-08 10:08 AM |
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I don't understand |
jobycom |
Nov-10-08 10:15 AM |
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It is a revision, not an amendment. |
tekisui |
Nov-10-08 10:17 AM |
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It's described as an amendment. I don't get it. |
jobycom |
Nov-10-08 10:21 AM |
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The US Constitution is superior to state constitutions, and Prop 8 violates the equal protection cla |
closeupready |
Nov-10-08 10:23 AM |
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I know that, but the US Court has never held this to apply to marriage. |
jobycom |
Nov-10-08 10:48 AM |
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Oh, I forgot to mention - Alaska law trumps US law. |
closeupready |
Nov-10-08 11:13 AM |
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The SCOTUS has never found sexual orientation to be a "protected class" |
Romulox |
Nov-10-08 11:37 AM |
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The arguments being made in this subthread are absolutely WRONG... |
AntiFascist |
Nov-10-08 12:30 PM |
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This does not need to be taken to Federal Court... |
AntiFascist |
Nov-10-08 12:27 PM |
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I'm confused now too, but the difference between a revision and an amendment is |
closeupready |
Nov-10-08 10:25 AM |
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Yes, it is peculiar to CA Law. Prop 8 supports would like to see it as an amendment, but it isn't. |
GodlessBiker |
Nov-10-08 10:27 AM |
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Thank you, that's the answer I've been searching for. Is this distinction clearly explained? |
jobycom |
Nov-10-08 10:52 AM |
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No, it is not clear how the CA Supreme Court will rule. We shall see. |
GodlessBiker |
Nov-10-08 10:54 AM |
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I wonder if we can amend the Constitution to do away with the amendment process, |
petronius |
Nov-10-08 11:48 AM |
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Perhaps this may help, courtesy of Anti-Fascist... |
BlueCaliDem04 |
Nov-10-08 10:41 AM |
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No, the issue is that Prop 8 may be ruled to be a revision to the constitution.... |
AntiFascist |
Nov-10-08 12:24 PM |
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This wasn't an amendment, this was a revision, and needed to go to the State Legislature first. |
GodlessBiker |
Nov-10-08 10:12 AM |
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that's a legal argument the good guys are trying to make, yes. |
enki23 |
Nov-10-08 10:44 AM |
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It's no more of a technicality than the Fourth Amendment is a technicality for a bad search. |
GodlessBiker |
Nov-10-08 10:55 AM |
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that's a silly reading of what i said. |
enki23 |
Nov-10-08 11:35 AM |
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I disagree with your statement... |
AntiFascist |
Nov-10-08 12:45 PM |
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he did NOTHING to help the fight against 8 except make a few discreet statements - just |
msongs |
Nov-10-08 10:08 AM |
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I'm sure his party had ordered him to stay quiet on it |
jobycom |
Nov-10-08 10:10 AM |
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His one statement about being allowed back into CA bedrooms, I thought, was rather effective. |
Vash the Stampede |
Nov-10-08 10:13 AM |
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him saying that sure got the interviewers shocked speechless |
ensho |
Nov-10-08 10:32 AM |
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Well, he is doing something NOW |
cobalt1999 |
Nov-10-08 10:29 AM |
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Not doing anything earlier may turn out to be the best. |
Turbineguy |
Nov-10-08 10:49 AM |
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He declared against it before the election |
anigbrowl |
Nov-10-08 12:06 PM |
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At least he gets this right. |
dkofos |
Nov-10-08 10:14 AM |
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He's an ass. The State Legislature legalized gay marriage twice and he vetoed it both times. |
GodlessBiker |
Nov-10-08 10:29 AM |
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There's no way a change like this can be made with a simple majority vote |
ProgressiveFool |
Nov-10-08 10:30 AM |
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Damn the h8ers for making me agree with Ah-nold on something. |
GloriaSmith |
Nov-10-08 10:32 AM |
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Arnold has nothing to lose - I say he tells the Prop 8 supporters to fuck off. |
LynneSin |
Nov-10-08 10:34 AM |
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I said this several days ago |
shadowknows69 |
Nov-10-08 10:35 AM |
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good leadership on his part |
Blu Dahlia |
Nov-10-08 11:38 AM |
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Sssshhhh. You're not supposed to say positive things about Schwarzenegger on DU. |
DavidD |
Nov-10-08 11:43 AM |
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I think the California Supreme Court will rule against Prop 8. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-10-08 11:49 AM |
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Oh man I hope so, let it be so..nt |
and-justice-for-all |
Nov-10-08 12:26 PM |
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