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Response to Reply #121
125. Who, you?
How do you feel on the issue, pray tell?
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  -Look, I'm not the admin, I'm not a mod, but I'm going to say this lynyrd_skynyrd  Nov-09-08 09:57 PM   #0 
  - Skinner himself said this four years ago. I really wish he'd reiterate it clearly  Harvey Korman   Nov-09-08 09:59 PM   #1 
  - new? nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 09:59 PM   #3 
  - Touche. nt  Harvey Korman   Nov-09-08 10:00 PM   #4 
  - At least someone want to get married!  Lost-in-FL   Nov-09-08 10:02 PM   #9 
  - I do agree.  StreetKnowledge   Nov-10-08 12:20 AM   #217 
  - He has. Look downthread.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 10:13 PM   #21 
  - its too bad that some straights can't lose a right that everyone has to feel  roguevalley   Nov-09-08 11:45 PM   #174 
  - I support gay marriage.......  musical_soul   Nov-09-08 09:59 PM   #2 
  - thats sad, huh? nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 10:00 PM   #6 
  - Yes, it is.  musical_soul   Nov-09-08 10:01 PM   #7 
  - Is it illegal to have a site that is more progressive than the president-elect?  yardwork   Nov-09-08 10:07 PM   #14 
  - Dude. I would LOVE to buy you a beer.  Midlodemocrat   Nov-09-08 10:00 PM   #5 
  - I agree.  liberalmuse   Nov-09-08 10:02 PM   #8 
  - To be precise: they get sh*t from all the rest of the world, except...  Amonester   Nov-09-08 10:10 PM   #16 
  - Thanks. That lifted my spirits!  GodlessBiker   Nov-09-08 10:03 PM   #10 
  - K and R and Completely Agree. NT  NRaleighLiberal   Nov-09-08 10:04 PM   #11 
  - thanks  ruggerson   Nov-09-08 10:06 PM   #12 
  - I disagree (about the "you don't belong here" part). I'm sure there is  CAG   Nov-09-08 10:06 PM   #13 
  - See post #14.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 10:08 PM   #15 
  - Post 14 asks a ridiculous question. I'm just stating that by the OP  CAG   Nov-09-08 10:14 PM   #22 
     - Why is my question ridiculous? Aren't we allowed to have a site that is more progressive  yardwork   Nov-09-08 10:16 PM   #26 
        - I have no idea how you reach that conclusion; it of course can be  CAG   Nov-09-08 10:21 PM   #33 
           - That is something you will have to take up with the DU Admins. They set the rules.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 10:26 PM   #42 
           - Well, it's Skinner's website, and HE says people like that are not welcome.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 10:29 PM   # 
              - So Skinner has a lithmus test for "HOW Liberal ARE YOU?"  Tigress DEM   Nov-10-08 02:02 AM   #244 
  - Well, you're wrong. Skinner himself has said that such people ARE NOT WELCOME HERE.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 10:15 PM   #25 
  - you mean Barack Obama wouldn't be welcomed to post here because of his view on this?  bigtree   Nov-09-08 10:18 PM   #30 
  - Why would he be an exception? Just because he's president?  yardwork   Nov-09-08 10:28 PM   #46 
  - If he expressed that view, I suspect he would not be welcomed.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 10:30 PM   #53 
     - expressed it HERE, or just held that view, as I think the op objects to?  bigtree   Nov-09-08 10:33 PM   #58 
        - If he didn't express it here, how could we know his view?  Zhade   Nov-09-08 11:02 PM   #124 
  - The freepers would have a field day with some of the "open-minded"  CAG   Nov-09-08 10:35 PM   #63 
  - By the rules, there are A LOT of people on DU who therefore should be  CAG   Nov-09-08 10:52 PM   #104 
     - Skinner has SPECIFICALLY said they are not welcome here.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 11:05 PM   #130 
        - and I pointed out his words on a different issue, I hope that you will  CAG   Nov-09-08 11:10 PM   #136 
           - Unlike what you pointed out, our right to marry is a non-negotiable price of being a DUer.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 11:18 PM   #143 
              - You know what? As a point of principle, I'm not going to *&#^#ing  CAG   Nov-09-08 11:37 PM   #163 
                 - No, I'm not going to assume what you think. I know better.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 11:48 PM   #178 
  - Agreed & Well Said  Sherman A1   Nov-10-08 03:05 AM   #252 
  - Equal Rights For ALL- What Part of That Evades You  we can do it   Nov-10-08 06:56 AM   #260 
  - Kind of complicates it when the president who the board overwhelmingly supported  bigtree   Nov-09-08 10:10 PM   #17 
  - Those DUers should also read Post 14.  Harvey Korman   Nov-09-08 10:11 PM   #18 
  - I'd be thrilled and honored to have our president-elect posting here  bigtree   Nov-09-08 10:15 PM   #23 
     - As would I, but that doesn't mean that our board can't enforce rules that are more progressive.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 10:17 PM   #29 
        - Is Barack Obama an exception to that rule?  bigtree   Nov-09-08 10:19 PM   #31 
           - Do you mean, would Obama be banned for coming to DU and saying he was against gay marriage?  yardwork   Nov-09-08 10:26 PM   #39 
           - I wonder how many other issues that he supports would be a disqualifier?  bigtree   Nov-09-08 10:29 PM   # 
              - Why don't you review the DU rules and make a list?  yardwork   Nov-09-08 10:30 PM   #52 
              - I'd be more interested to see yours.  bigtree   Nov-09-08 10:32 PM   #56 
                 - Beg pardon? I haven't advocated banning anybody and I don't make the DU rules.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 10:32 PM   #57 
              - If they violated rules Skinner SPECIFICALLY made known, they would not be allowed.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 11:07 PM   #133 
           - No. Sorry Barack. You and Joe are banned from DU.  liberalmuse   Nov-09-08 10:26 PM   #40 
              - I have a strong feeling that if Barack and Joe were posting here  yardwork   Nov-09-08 10:29 PM   #51 
              - gotta disagree. nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 10:33 PM   #59 
              - are we going to stop at this issue - this exception of his?  bigtree   Nov-09-08 10:31 PM   #54 
              - Oh well. Skinner's decided. Learn to live with it.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 11:10 PM   #137 
              - Oh, I thought Biden changed hisstance on that. How shameful.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 11:08 PM   #134 
  - that is a hard one. nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 10:12 PM   #19 
  - it's interesting, with our history, that an african american president  jonnyblitz   Nov-09-08 10:15 PM   #24 
     - he really muddies that one up  bigtree   Nov-09-08 10:22 PM   #34 
        - yup. I agree. we have to do what we can do with the cards we  jonnyblitz   Nov-09-08 10:50 PM   #99 
  - It's not only your opinion!  Zhade   Nov-09-08 10:13 PM   #20 
  - He was clearer about the issue of marriage in 2004.  Harvey Korman   Nov-09-08 10:16 PM   #27 
  - Thank you Skinner and you too..  prairierose   Nov-09-08 10:27 PM   #44 
  - K&R  cliffordu   Nov-09-08 10:16 PM   #28 
  - i support full marriage rights for all  Magic Rat   Nov-09-08 10:19 PM   #32 
  - I don't understand. Could you explain? nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 10:22 PM   #36 
     - sure  Magic Rat   Nov-09-08 10:47 PM   #92 
        - do you feel the civil rights movement started too early? nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 10:51 PM   #101 
        - no  Magic Rat   Nov-10-08 06:43 AM   #257 
        - The country wasn't ready for civil rights for AAs, either.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 11:12 PM   #139 
           - that's true in a way  Magic Rat   Nov-10-08 06:37 AM   #256 
  - Are there ANY posters at DU who don't support gay marriage? (edit: maybe so)  TexasObserver   Nov-09-08 10:22 PM   #35 
  - bigtree seems to be deeply unhappy with the rule.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 10:33 PM   #60 
  - you came to this other post to rag on me? I'm right here.  bigtree   Nov-09-08 10:37 PM   #66 
  - Take it up with Skinner. I don't make the rules or interpret them or enforce them.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 10:43 PM   #78 
  - We're not interpreting the fucking rules. SKINNER MADE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 11:14 PM   #141 
  - When Skinner issues an edict, as far as I'm concerned, that's the end of the issue.  TexasObserver   Nov-09-08 11:02 PM   #120 
     - Not just in your view, either. Skinner himself has stated:  Zhade   Nov-09-08 11:16 PM   #142 
     - Thank you! I love you!  yardwork   Nov-09-08 11:27 PM   #154 
        - You're welcome!!  TexasObserver   Nov-09-08 11:35 PM   #160 
           - That, and civil unions don't confer the same rights as marriage.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 11:37 PM   #164 
  - I think the point IS that UNLESS you AGREE that it HAS to be MARRIAGE NOW, you're a bigot.  Tigress DEM   Nov-10-08 12:04 AM   #205 
     - Wanting our full equal rights isn't "extreme". It's sad you think it is.  Zhade   Nov-10-08 12:18 AM   #216 
        - I did not say your "wanting" your rights is extreme at all.  Tigress DEM   Nov-10-08 01:58 AM   #243 
  - Marriage should be abolished as a legal concept  FarCenter   Nov-09-08 10:24 PM   #37 
  - Agree on that point.  Tigress DEM   Nov-10-08 02:07 AM   #245 
  - Yeah, let's all preach to the amen chorus...  travelingtypist   Nov-09-08 10:25 PM   #38 
  - why don't you support marriage? nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 10:27 PM   #43 
  - Because I'm a bigot, that's why.  travelingtypist   Nov-09-08 10:42 PM   #75 
     - since that was sarcastic, what is the real reason? nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 10:43 PM   #79 
  - Am I to understand you oppose gay marriage? If so, why?  TexasObserver   Nov-09-08 10:28 PM   #47 
  - I support civil unions with the same rights as marriage.  travelingtypist   Nov-09-08 10:44 PM   #81 
     - Then you don't support gay marriage. WHY?  TexasObserver   Nov-09-08 10:47 PM   #91 
     - You're wrong, of course. There are numerous MARRIED couples who never set foot in a church.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 11:29 PM   #156 
     - I would be one of them.  HughBeaumont   Nov-10-08 06:53 AM   #258 
     - So, you're saying that people trying to collect child support should go to church to get it? n/t  eridani   Nov-10-08 02:28 AM   #247 
  - Thanks for saying we deserve our own water fountain. It's almost as nice as yours.  mondo joe   Nov-09-08 10:28 PM   #48 
  - You're trying to kick people out for not following the party line.  travelingtypist   Nov-09-08 10:41 PM   #73 
     - Question: If a poster was opposed to equal rights for Jews should that be welcome?  mondo joe   Nov-09-08 10:59 PM   #116 
     - WE'RE not doing anything. SKINNER said they're not welcome, and we agree.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 11:31 PM   #157 
  - Allow me to point you to the words of the FOUNDER of this website:  Zhade   Nov-09-08 11:23 PM   #148 
  - I'd be very, very, very wary of that type of thinking.  PeterU   Nov-09-08 10:26 PM   #41 
  - heh..liberals. nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 10:27 PM   #45 
  - You haven't perused the DU rules lately, have you?  yardwork   Nov-09-08 10:31 PM   #55 
  - So your idea is what.....have a checklist of issues you have to sign off on....  PeterU   Nov-09-08 10:35 PM   #62 
     - The DU rules are very clear on this. Read them.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 10:44 PM   #82 
  - Would you support someone opposed to interracial marriage being on DU?  ruggerson   Nov-09-08 10:35 PM   #64 
  - Where we are at in America today in terms of societal and cultural norms...  PeterU   Nov-09-08 10:39 PM   #68 
     - Uh, half of California just voted for it  ruggerson   Nov-09-08 10:50 PM   #100 
  - Skinner: support for marriage equality is a "litmus test" issue on DU.  Harvey Korman   Nov-09-08 10:37 PM   #67 
  - From what I read of it...  PeterU   Nov-09-08 10:43 PM   #80 
     - Uh, YES HE DID.  Harvey Korman   Nov-09-08 10:46 PM   #86 
     - it says  bigtree   Nov-09-08 10:46 PM   #88 
     - I'm used to being more correct than the President on civil rights. NT  mondo joe   Nov-09-08 11:25 PM   #151 
     - I can truly say that I have never been less progressive than any U.S. president  yardwork   Nov-09-08 11:43 PM   #172 
        - I'm also please Obama won, all things considered. And I still have to acknowledge his bigotry,  mondo joe   Nov-09-08 11:47 PM   #177 
           - Exactly. It sounds like you and I might be capable of critical thinking and nuance.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 11:50 PM   #180 
              - Exactly! I've been more committed to equal civil rights than any President in my lifetime.  mondo joe   Nov-09-08 11:52 PM   #185 
     - You are reading it correctly. And I applaud Skinner for having the courage of that conviction.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 11:39 PM   #166 
     - Thank you for reading the rule and posting it here.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 11:40 PM   #169 
     - BullfuckingSHIT he didn't!  Zhade   Nov-09-08 11:35 PM   #161 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-09-08 10:48 PM   #96 
  - I agree - litmus-test ideologies are NOT what we need.  yeswedid   Nov-09-08 11:19 PM   #144 
  - Welcome to DU... But remember, evidently us open-minded progressives  CAG   Nov-09-08 11:46 PM   #175 
  - Take it up with Skinner.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 11:32 PM   #158 
  - "I myself have no problem with gay marriage..."  cboy4   Nov-10-08 03:13 AM   #253 
  - K and R  OwnedByFerrets   Nov-09-08 10:29 PM   #49 
  - I AGREE  Skittles   Nov-09-08 10:29 PM   #50 
  - No need to try to change peoples minds just ridicule and isolate them, good strategy.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-09-08 10:34 PM   #61 
  - how is it ridiculing people to point out what is clear bigotry?  Skittles   Nov-09-08 10:35 PM   #65 
  - That's how they'll perceive it.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-09-08 10:39 PM   #69 
     - then they have to deal with the national guard. screw bigots. nt  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 10:39 PM   #70 
     - well like repukes  Skittles   Nov-09-08 10:40 PM   #72 
     - You think your President Elect is a bigot, and you think other people don't belong here.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-09-08 10:42 PM   #74 
        - I think they need to understand they support bigotry  Skittles   Nov-09-08 10:43 PM   #77 
        - Ok so not everyone who feels that way is a bigot? Do I have it straight now?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-09-08 10:44 PM   #83 
           - YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES  Skittles   Nov-09-08 10:47 PM   #93 
              - Ok so Obamas not a bigot but everyone else is. You may need logic course.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-09-08 10:52 PM   #102 
                 - with regards to gay marriage, YES he supports bigotry  Skittles   Nov-09-08 11:24 PM   #149 
                 - Obama is bigoted toward gays. There you have it. NT  mondo joe   Nov-09-08 11:26 PM   #152 
        - Obama's stance on gay marriage is bigotted.  Mari333   Nov-09-08 10:45 PM   #84 
           - So you are calling your future President a bigot and saying he shouldn't be welcome here.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-09-08 10:46 PM   #87 
              - If he came on here as a poster and didnt support gay marriage rights  Mari333   Nov-09-08 10:52 PM   #103 
              - Oh fucking get off it. Barack Obama doesn't post here  Harvey Korman   Nov-09-08 10:53 PM   #105 
              - Crystal clear that you'll didn't think this out very well before posting.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-09-08 10:55 PM   #109 
              - I think it's pretty well explained actually.  Harvey Korman   Nov-09-08 10:57 PM   #110 
              - The definition just doesn't fit.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-09-08 11:01 PM   #117 
              - Misspost.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-09-08 11:02 PM   #121 
                 - Who, you?  Harvey Korman   Nov-09-08 11:03 PM   #125 
                    - Sorry I'll repost it in the right place.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-09-08 11:04 PM   #128 
              - It's also clear that you don't have the courage to call everyone who feels that way a bigot.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-09-08 11:05 PM   #129 
                 - I do. So did Skinner. They're bigots.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 11:51 PM   #182 
                    - The post wasn't directed at you and definitely not Skinner.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-09-08 11:53 PM   #187 
                       - Happily, I have the right to reply to any post I wish.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 11:57 PM   #192 
                          - Isn't freedom grand?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-10-08 12:00 AM   #195 
                          - Isn't freedom grand?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-10-08 12:00 AM   #196 
              - I'm not calling anyone a bigot at this moment but I need to point out.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 11:49 PM   #179 
                 - So someone can have a bigoted position but not be a bigot? Please explain.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-10-08 12:04 AM   #204 
                    - nm  Zhade   Nov-10-08 12:15 AM   #215 
     - You mean bigots will misinterpret it?  Zhade   Nov-09-08 11:47 PM   #176 
        - So the President Elect can't think clearly? I'm glad that didn't come out before the election.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-10-08 12:05 AM   #207 
  - If this were a board to educate people on basic issues like human rights and social justice  Harvey Korman   Nov-09-08 10:39 PM   #71 
  - You think your President Elect is a bigot?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-09-08 10:43 PM   #76 
     - on the issue of gay civil rights, yes. don't you? nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 10:45 PM   #85 
        - Nope.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-09-08 10:47 PM   #90 
           - do you also oppose gay marriage, or just feel such opposition is not bigoted? nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 10:48 PM   #95 
              - I don't think bigot is the appropriate word to define people who simply don't support gay marriage.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-09-08 10:53 PM   #106 
                 - you don't think it is bigoted to not support civil rights for a minority? nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 10:54 PM   #107 
                 - Never said that but nice try.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-09-08 10:57 PM   #111 
                    - Oh. So you just don't consider us a "real" minority then.  Harvey Korman   Nov-09-08 10:58 PM   #112 
                    - Never said that but nice try.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-09-08 10:59 PM   #114 
                       - The definition of "bigot" fits as well as it fit those who opposed interracial marriage  Harvey Korman   Nov-09-08 11:02 PM   #123 
                          - That would be a different action.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-09-08 11:04 PM   #127 
                             - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-09-08 11:06 PM   #131 
                    - so, what do you call someone that does not support civil rights for a minority? for any group? nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 11:02 PM   #122 
                       - Is that all they do?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-09-08 11:03 PM   #126 
                          - it is one thing. what would you call that view? nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 11:09 PM   #135 
                             - It would depend on the person holding that view and their actions.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-09-08 11:21 PM   #145 
                                - would you apply that same standard to someone that didn't think blacks should be allowed to vote? nt  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 11:24 PM   #150 
                                   - Yes  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-09-08 11:27 PM   #155 
                 - Well, look in the mirror then  Harvey Korman   Nov-09-08 10:54 PM   #108 
                 - Ignorance is everywhere, I doubt many people know the definition of bigot.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-09-08 10:58 PM   #113 
                 - You need to read Skinner's post, then, since it affects your ability to even post here.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 11:53 PM   #186 
                    - HUH?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-10-08 12:08 AM   #209 
                       - Here, let me clarify.  Zhade   Nov-10-08 12:28 AM   #222 
                          - I would agree that opposing those rights would make one a bigot.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-10-08 12:59 AM   #236 
  - I don't read any ridicule in the OP. Also, his position happens to match the DU rules.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 11:52 PM   #184 
     - How would that isolate me?  Fire_Medic_Dave   Nov-10-08 01:31 AM   #241 
  - Litmus tests are foolish  sknabt   Nov-09-08 10:46 PM   #89 
  - so civil rights are now defined as walls? nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 10:49 PM   #97 
  - Skinner has spoken. It is the rule here.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 11:56 PM   #191 
  - Would you tombstone Obama if he started posting?  aikoaiko   Nov-09-08 10:48 PM   #94 
  - he would be. nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 10:50 PM   #98 
  - Obama would not be tombstoned if he posted here  Cali_Democrat   Nov-09-08 10:59 PM   #115 
     - if he expressed his views on gay marriage, he would be. nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 11:01 PM   #118 
     - Obama is bigoted toward gays. There you have it. NT  mondo joe   Nov-09-08 11:27 PM   #153 
     - Obama is NOT bigoted toward gays  Cali_Democrat   Nov-09-08 11:36 PM   #162 
        - Of course he is. He supports separate but equal status, which is discriminatory  mondo joe   Nov-09-08 11:38 PM   #165 
        - would you welcome someone who opposed interracial marriage as well? nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 11:42 PM   #171 
        - The poster you're asking, yesterday said he blamed Prop 8 on those fighting against it.  mondo joe   Nov-09-08 11:50 PM   #181 
           - i'm ready to give up here. nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 11:51 PM   #183 
           - That poster is misrepresenting my position  Cali_Democrat   Nov-09-08 11:59 PM   #194 
              - Link:  mondo joe   Nov-10-08 12:01 AM   #198 
              - And I stand by everything I said.  Cali_Democrat   Nov-10-08 12:09 AM   #210 
                 - You laid the BLAME for Prop 8 on gays fighting it. Your words. Not mine. NT  mondo joe   Nov-10-08 12:11 AM   #214 
                    - Still think I was wrong when I pinned some of the blame on inadequate outreach to minorities?  Cali_Democrat   Nov-10-08 02:08 AM   #246 
              - i don't need you on my side. nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-10-08 12:01 AM   #199 
                 - WOW  Cali_Democrat   Nov-10-08 12:03 AM   #202 
                    - in what sense? nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-10-08 12:04 AM   #206 
           - I opposed prop 8....and fought hard against it  Cali_Democrat   Nov-09-08 11:55 PM   #189 
           - You actually said you BLAMED its passage on the No on 8 people.  mondo joe   Nov-09-08 11:57 PM   #193 
              - I blamed the "No on 8" campaign for not doing a good enough job reaching out to minorities  Cali_Democrat   Nov-10-08 12:02 AM   #201 
                 - Again, you said you blame the No campaign. Not the voters, not the funders. You blame  mondo joe   Nov-10-08 12:05 AM   #208 
                    - They do have to take some blame for not reaching out to Hispanics and Blacks  Cali_Democrat   Nov-10-08 12:11 AM   #212 
           - Saying that the anti-8 campaign could have been run better is NOT the same--  eridani   Nov-10-08 03:04 AM   #251 
        - Hell, I'd love it. But it doesn't change the fact that expressing that view would break the rules.  Zhade   Nov-10-08 12:35 AM   #225 
     - Obama mentions the LGBT community in every speech he gives  Truth Hurts A Lot   Nov-09-08 11:33 PM   #159 
        - Homophobia isn't absolute. He's not as bigoted as Sarah Palin, let's say.  mondo joe   Nov-09-08 11:40 PM   #168 
  - 'btw: I'm for equality in how same sex and different sex marriages are handled by the gov'  xchrom   Nov-09-08 11:01 PM   #119 
  - either civil unions for all or marriage for all. nt  aikoaiko   Nov-09-08 11:22 PM   #146 
  - I'm fairly certain he would be able to post if he kept those opinions to himself.  Zhade   Nov-10-08 12:00 AM   #197 
  - I don't support ANY civil marriage.  leftofthedial   Nov-09-08 11:06 PM   #132 
  - Does that mean you think that all marriages should be performed by a religious officiant  Ken Burch   Nov-09-08 11:10 PM   #138 
     - against the former  leftofthedial   Nov-09-08 11:13 PM   #140 
  - "I doubt anybody here against interracial marriage would last very long."  ColbertWatcher   Nov-09-08 11:23 PM   #147 
  - I personally don't oppose gay marriage. But this is the type of thread that just sucks.  Tigress DEM   Nov-09-08 11:40 PM   #167 
  - so you think bigots should be allowed to post their hate here? nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 11:41 PM   #170 
  - NO. I just think that people are expanding the term bigot to an insane degree.  Tigress DEM   Nov-10-08 12:25 AM   #219 
     - define insane degree. is opposition to civil rights an insane degree? nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-10-08 12:27 AM   #220 
     - The OP says that supporting "civil unions" is still being a bigot.  Tigress DEM   Nov-10-08 01:14 AM   #239 
     - Would you be as welcoming to someone who opposed interracial marriage?  mondo joe   Nov-10-08 12:29 AM   #224 
     - I just have a different approach to dealing with it.  Tigress DEM   Nov-10-08 01:38 AM   #242 
     - Please read post #246.  Zhade   Nov-10-08 12:39 AM   #227 
        - Thanks, I need to get to bed now, but I've bookmarked the thread.  Tigress DEM   Nov-10-08 02:58 AM   #250 
  - If you think THIS makes you sick, imagine having your civil rights stripped from you.  mondo joe   Nov-09-08 11:43 PM   #173 
  - Yeah, it has to be the worst.  Tigress DEM   Nov-10-08 12:41 AM   #228 
  - Tolerance does not equal spinelessness  LeftyMom   Nov-09-08 11:55 PM   #188 
     - Hear, hear.  Zhade   Nov-10-08 12:42 AM   #229 
     - IF your definition of bigot is so narrow it excludes people trying to help you, it's too narrow.  Tigress DEM   Nov-10-08 01:05 AM   #237 
  - Error: You've already recommended that thread.  LeftyMom   Nov-09-08 11:56 PM   #190 
  - List of people who don't support gay marriage  pettypace   Nov-10-08 12:01 AM   #200 
  - And those people hold a bigoted position.  mondo joe   Nov-10-08 12:04 AM   #203 
  - I wasn't aware that this was the party of personality politics and hero worship.  LeftyMom   Nov-10-08 12:09 AM   #211 
  - discriminatory stances by all. very unfortunate. nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-10-08 12:11 AM   #213 
  - They would not be allowed to express bigoted views here.  Zhade   Nov-10-08 12:43 AM   #230 
     - Well, to be honest, DU lets a lot of anti-gay shit slide by, so there's no guarantee  mondo joe   Nov-10-08 12:47 AM   #234 
  - How does this fit? I am perfectly happy when same sex marriage  RichardRay   Nov-10-08 12:22 AM   #218 
  - I think you're awesome.  Zhade   Nov-10-08 12:45 AM   #232 
     - How about...  RichardRay   Nov-10-08 01:06 AM   #238 
  - How about if I just don't give a shit one way or the other?  TreasonousBastard   Nov-10-08 12:27 AM   #221 
  - it should. nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-10-08 12:29 AM   #223 
  - Wow - you don't put same sex marriage "up there" with tossing miscegenation laws  mondo joe   Nov-10-08 12:38 AM   #226 
  - this is the root cause. nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-10-08 12:44 AM   #231 
  - Read this, and answer your own question.  Zhade   Nov-10-08 12:47 AM   #233 
  - I get it, you got yours and fuck everybody else.  LeftyMom   Nov-10-08 12:48 AM   #235 
  - The best line: Both stances are rooted in hate,  bluedawg12   Nov-10-08 01:29 AM   #240 
  - Agreed, k&r'd.  snot   Nov-10-08 02:34 AM   #248 
  - Lawd yes and thank you.  Withywindle   Nov-10-08 02:46 AM   #249 
  - Agree  LatteLibertine   Nov-10-08 03:17 AM   #254 
  - No. They should stay and argue their points properly.  Festivito   Nov-10-08 05:23 AM   #255 
  - Don't Use Your "Choice" of Religion as a Reason To Discriminate  we can do it   Nov-10-08 06:54 AM   #259 
  - recommend  madokie   Nov-10-08 06:58 AM   #261 
  - Locking.  Puglover   Nov-10-08 06:58 AM   #262 
 

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