| -Look, I'm not the admin, I'm not a mod, but I'm going to say this |
lynyrd_skynyrd |
Nov-09-08 09:57 PM |
#0 |
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Skinner himself said this four years ago. I really wish he'd reiterate it clearly |
Harvey Korman |
Nov-09-08 09:59 PM |
#1 |
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new? nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 09:59 PM |
#3 |
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Touche. nt |
Harvey Korman |
Nov-09-08 10:00 PM |
#4 |
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At least someone want to get married! |
Lost-in-FL |
Nov-09-08 10:02 PM |
#9 |
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I do agree. |
StreetKnowledge |
Nov-10-08 12:20 AM |
#217 |
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He has. Look downthread. |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 10:13 PM |
#21 |
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its too bad that some straights can't lose a right that everyone has to feel |
roguevalley |
Nov-09-08 11:45 PM |
#174 |
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I support gay marriage....... |
musical_soul |
Nov-09-08 09:59 PM |
#2 |
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thats sad, huh? nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 10:00 PM |
#6 |
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Yes, it is. |
musical_soul |
Nov-09-08 10:01 PM |
#7 |
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Is it illegal to have a site that is more progressive than the president-elect? |
yardwork |
Nov-09-08 10:07 PM |
#14 |
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Dude. I would LOVE to buy you a beer. |
Midlodemocrat |
Nov-09-08 10:00 PM |
#5 |
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I agree. |
liberalmuse |
Nov-09-08 10:02 PM |
#8 |
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To be precise: they get sh*t from all the rest of the world, except... |
Amonester |
Nov-09-08 10:10 PM |
#16 |
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Thanks. That lifted my spirits! |
GodlessBiker |
Nov-09-08 10:03 PM |
#10 |
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K and R and Completely Agree. NT |
NRaleighLiberal |
Nov-09-08 10:04 PM |
#11 |
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thanks |
ruggerson |
Nov-09-08 10:06 PM |
#12 |
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I disagree (about the "you don't belong here" part). I'm sure there is |
CAG |
Nov-09-08 10:06 PM |
#13 |
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See post #14. |
yardwork |
Nov-09-08 10:08 PM |
#15 |
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Post 14 asks a ridiculous question. I'm just stating that by the OP |
CAG |
Nov-09-08 10:14 PM |
#22 |
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Why is my question ridiculous? Aren't we allowed to have a site that is more progressive |
yardwork |
Nov-09-08 10:16 PM |
#26 |
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I have no idea how you reach that conclusion; it of course can be |
CAG |
Nov-09-08 10:21 PM |
#33 |
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That is something you will have to take up with the DU Admins. They set the rules. |
yardwork |
Nov-09-08 10:26 PM |
#42 |
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Well, it's Skinner's website, and HE says people like that are not welcome. |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 10:29 PM |
# |
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So Skinner has a lithmus test for "HOW Liberal ARE YOU?" |
Tigress DEM |
Nov-10-08 02:02 AM |
#244 |
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Well, you're wrong. Skinner himself has said that such people ARE NOT WELCOME HERE. |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 10:15 PM |
#25 |
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you mean Barack Obama wouldn't be welcomed to post here because of his view on this? |
bigtree |
Nov-09-08 10:18 PM |
#30 |
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Why would he be an exception? Just because he's president? |
yardwork |
Nov-09-08 10:28 PM |
#46 |
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If he expressed that view, I suspect he would not be welcomed. |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 10:30 PM |
#53 |
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expressed it HERE, or just held that view, as I think the op objects to? |
bigtree |
Nov-09-08 10:33 PM |
#58 |
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If he didn't express it here, how could we know his view? |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 11:02 PM |
#124 |
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The freepers would have a field day with some of the "open-minded" |
CAG |
Nov-09-08 10:35 PM |
#63 |
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By the rules, there are A LOT of people on DU who therefore should be |
CAG |
Nov-09-08 10:52 PM |
#104 |
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Skinner has SPECIFICALLY said they are not welcome here. |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 11:05 PM |
#130 |
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and I pointed out his words on a different issue, I hope that you will |
CAG |
Nov-09-08 11:10 PM |
#136 |
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Unlike what you pointed out, our right to marry is a non-negotiable price of being a DUer. |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 11:18 PM |
#143 |
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You know what? As a point of principle, I'm not going to *&#^#ing |
CAG |
Nov-09-08 11:37 PM |
#163 |
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No, I'm not going to assume what you think. I know better. |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 11:48 PM |
#178 |
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Agreed & Well Said |
Sherman A1 |
Nov-10-08 03:05 AM |
#252 |
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Equal Rights For ALL- What Part of That Evades You |
we can do it |
Nov-10-08 06:56 AM |
#260 |
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Kind of complicates it when the president who the board overwhelmingly supported |
bigtree |
Nov-09-08 10:10 PM |
#17 |
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Those DUers should also read Post 14. |
Harvey Korman |
Nov-09-08 10:11 PM |
#18 |
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I'd be thrilled and honored to have our president-elect posting here |
bigtree |
Nov-09-08 10:15 PM |
#23 |
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As would I, but that doesn't mean that our board can't enforce rules that are more progressive. |
yardwork |
Nov-09-08 10:17 PM |
#29 |
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Is Barack Obama an exception to that rule? |
bigtree |
Nov-09-08 10:19 PM |
#31 |
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Do you mean, would Obama be banned for coming to DU and saying he was against gay marriage? |
yardwork |
Nov-09-08 10:26 PM |
#39 |
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I wonder how many other issues that he supports would be a disqualifier? |
bigtree |
Nov-09-08 10:29 PM |
# |
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Why don't you review the DU rules and make a list? |
yardwork |
Nov-09-08 10:30 PM |
#52 |
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I'd be more interested to see yours. |
bigtree |
Nov-09-08 10:32 PM |
#56 |
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Beg pardon? I haven't advocated banning anybody and I don't make the DU rules. |
yardwork |
Nov-09-08 10:32 PM |
#57 |
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If they violated rules Skinner SPECIFICALLY made known, they would not be allowed. |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 11:07 PM |
#133 |
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No. Sorry Barack. You and Joe are banned from DU. |
liberalmuse |
Nov-09-08 10:26 PM |
#40 |
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I have a strong feeling that if Barack and Joe were posting here |
yardwork |
Nov-09-08 10:29 PM |
#51 |
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gotta disagree. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 10:33 PM |
#59 |
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are we going to stop at this issue - this exception of his? |
bigtree |
Nov-09-08 10:31 PM |
#54 |
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Oh well. Skinner's decided. Learn to live with it. |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 11:10 PM |
#137 |
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Oh, I thought Biden changed hisstance on that. How shameful. |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 11:08 PM |
#134 |
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that is a hard one. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 10:12 PM |
#19 |
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it's interesting, with our history, that an african american president |
jonnyblitz |
Nov-09-08 10:15 PM |
#24 |
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he really muddies that one up |
bigtree |
Nov-09-08 10:22 PM |
#34 |
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yup. I agree. we have to do what we can do with the cards we |
jonnyblitz |
Nov-09-08 10:50 PM |
#99 |
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It's not only your opinion! |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 10:13 PM |
#20 |
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He was clearer about the issue of marriage in 2004. |
Harvey Korman |
Nov-09-08 10:16 PM |
#27 |
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Thank you Skinner and you too.. |
prairierose |
Nov-09-08 10:27 PM |
#44 |
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K&R |
cliffordu |
Nov-09-08 10:16 PM |
#28 |
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i support full marriage rights for all |
Magic Rat |
Nov-09-08 10:19 PM |
#32 |
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I don't understand. Could you explain? nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 10:22 PM |
#36 |
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sure |
Magic Rat |
Nov-09-08 10:47 PM |
#92 |
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do you feel the civil rights movement started too early? nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 10:51 PM |
#101 |
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no |
Magic Rat |
Nov-10-08 06:43 AM |
#257 |
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The country wasn't ready for civil rights for AAs, either. |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 11:12 PM |
#139 |
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that's true in a way |
Magic Rat |
Nov-10-08 06:37 AM |
#256 |
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Are there ANY posters at DU who don't support gay marriage? (edit: maybe so) |
TexasObserver |
Nov-09-08 10:22 PM |
#35 |
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bigtree seems to be deeply unhappy with the rule. |
yardwork |
Nov-09-08 10:33 PM |
#60 |
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you came to this other post to rag on me? I'm right here. |
bigtree |
Nov-09-08 10:37 PM |
#66 |
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Take it up with Skinner. I don't make the rules or interpret them or enforce them. |
yardwork |
Nov-09-08 10:43 PM |
#78 |
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We're not interpreting the fucking rules. SKINNER MADE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR. |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 11:14 PM |
#141 |
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When Skinner issues an edict, as far as I'm concerned, that's the end of the issue. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-09-08 11:02 PM |
#120 |
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Not just in your view, either. Skinner himself has stated: |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 11:16 PM |
#142 |
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Thank you! I love you! |
yardwork |
Nov-09-08 11:27 PM |
#154 |
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You're welcome!! |
TexasObserver |
Nov-09-08 11:35 PM |
#160 |
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That, and civil unions don't confer the same rights as marriage. |
yardwork |
Nov-09-08 11:37 PM |
#164 |
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I think the point IS that UNLESS you AGREE that it HAS to be MARRIAGE NOW, you're a bigot. |
Tigress DEM |
Nov-10-08 12:04 AM |
#205 |
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Wanting our full equal rights isn't "extreme". It's sad you think it is. |
Zhade |
Nov-10-08 12:18 AM |
#216 |
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I did not say your "wanting" your rights is extreme at all. |
Tigress DEM |
Nov-10-08 01:58 AM |
#243 |
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Marriage should be abolished as a legal concept |
FarCenter |
Nov-09-08 10:24 PM |
#37 |
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Agree on that point. |
Tigress DEM |
Nov-10-08 02:07 AM |
#245 |
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Yeah, let's all preach to the amen chorus... |
travelingtypist |
Nov-09-08 10:25 PM |
#38 |
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why don't you support marriage? nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 10:27 PM |
#43 |
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Because I'm a bigot, that's why. |
travelingtypist |
Nov-09-08 10:42 PM |
#75 |
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since that was sarcastic, what is the real reason? nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 10:43 PM |
#79 |
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Am I to understand you oppose gay marriage? If so, why? |
TexasObserver |
Nov-09-08 10:28 PM |
#47 |
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I support civil unions with the same rights as marriage. |
travelingtypist |
Nov-09-08 10:44 PM |
#81 |
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Then you don't support gay marriage. WHY? |
TexasObserver |
Nov-09-08 10:47 PM |
#91 |
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You're wrong, of course. There are numerous MARRIED couples who never set foot in a church. |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 11:29 PM |
#156 |
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I would be one of them. |
HughBeaumont |
Nov-10-08 06:53 AM |
#258 |
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So, you're saying that people trying to collect child support should go to church to get it? n/t |
eridani |
Nov-10-08 02:28 AM |
#247 |
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Thanks for saying we deserve our own water fountain. It's almost as nice as yours. |
mondo joe |
Nov-09-08 10:28 PM |
#48 |
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You're trying to kick people out for not following the party line. |
travelingtypist |
Nov-09-08 10:41 PM |
#73 |
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Question: If a poster was opposed to equal rights for Jews should that be welcome? |
mondo joe |
Nov-09-08 10:59 PM |
#116 |
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WE'RE not doing anything. SKINNER said they're not welcome, and we agree. |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 11:31 PM |
#157 |
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Allow me to point you to the words of the FOUNDER of this website: |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 11:23 PM |
#148 |
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I'd be very, very, very wary of that type of thinking. |
PeterU |
Nov-09-08 10:26 PM |
#41 |
| -
heh..liberals. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 10:27 PM |
#45 |
| -
You haven't perused the DU rules lately, have you? |
yardwork |
Nov-09-08 10:31 PM |
#55 |
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So your idea is what.....have a checklist of issues you have to sign off on.... |
PeterU |
Nov-09-08 10:35 PM |
#62 |
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The DU rules are very clear on this. Read them. |
yardwork |
Nov-09-08 10:44 PM |
#82 |
| -
Would you support someone opposed to interracial marriage being on DU? |
ruggerson |
Nov-09-08 10:35 PM |
#64 |
| -
Where we are at in America today in terms of societal and cultural norms... |
PeterU |
Nov-09-08 10:39 PM |
#68 |
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Uh, half of California just voted for it |
ruggerson |
Nov-09-08 10:50 PM |
#100 |
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Skinner: support for marriage equality is a "litmus test" issue on DU. |
Harvey Korman |
Nov-09-08 10:37 PM |
#67 |
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From what I read of it... |
PeterU |
Nov-09-08 10:43 PM |
#80 |
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Uh, YES HE DID. |
Harvey Korman |
Nov-09-08 10:46 PM |
#86 |
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it says |
bigtree |
Nov-09-08 10:46 PM |
#88 |
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I'm used to being more correct than the President on civil rights. NT |
mondo joe |
Nov-09-08 11:25 PM |
#151 |
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I can truly say that I have never been less progressive than any U.S. president |
yardwork |
Nov-09-08 11:43 PM |
#172 |
| -
I'm also please Obama won, all things considered. And I still have to acknowledge his bigotry, |
mondo joe |
Nov-09-08 11:47 PM |
#177 |
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Exactly. It sounds like you and I might be capable of critical thinking and nuance. |
yardwork |
Nov-09-08 11:50 PM |
#180 |
| -
Exactly! I've been more committed to equal civil rights than any President in my lifetime. |
mondo joe |
Nov-09-08 11:52 PM |
#185 |
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You are reading it correctly. And I applaud Skinner for having the courage of that conviction. |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 11:39 PM |
#166 |
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Thank you for reading the rule and posting it here. |
yardwork |
Nov-09-08 11:40 PM |
#169 |
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BullfuckingSHIT he didn't! |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 11:35 PM |
#161 |
| -
Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Nov-09-08 10:48 PM |
#96 |
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I agree - litmus-test ideologies are NOT what we need. |
yeswedid |
Nov-09-08 11:19 PM |
#144 |
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Welcome to DU... But remember, evidently us open-minded progressives |
CAG |
Nov-09-08 11:46 PM |
#175 |
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Take it up with Skinner. |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 11:32 PM |
#158 |
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"I myself have no problem with gay marriage..." |
cboy4 |
Nov-10-08 03:13 AM |
#253 |
| -
K and R |
OwnedByFerrets |
Nov-09-08 10:29 PM |
#49 |
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I AGREE |
Skittles |
Nov-09-08 10:29 PM |
#50 |
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No need to try to change peoples minds just ridicule and isolate them, good strategy. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-09-08 10:34 PM |
#61 |
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how is it ridiculing people to point out what is clear bigotry? |
Skittles |
Nov-09-08 10:35 PM |
#65 |
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That's how they'll perceive it. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-09-08 10:39 PM |
#69 |
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then they have to deal with the national guard. screw bigots. nt |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 10:39 PM |
#70 |
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well like repukes |
Skittles |
Nov-09-08 10:40 PM |
#72 |
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You think your President Elect is a bigot, and you think other people don't belong here. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-09-08 10:42 PM |
#74 |
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I think they need to understand they support bigotry |
Skittles |
Nov-09-08 10:43 PM |
#77 |
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Ok so not everyone who feels that way is a bigot? Do I have it straight now? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-09-08 10:44 PM |
#83 |
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YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES |
Skittles |
Nov-09-08 10:47 PM |
#93 |
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Ok so Obamas not a bigot but everyone else is. You may need logic course. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-09-08 10:52 PM |
#102 |
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with regards to gay marriage, YES he supports bigotry |
Skittles |
Nov-09-08 11:24 PM |
#149 |
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Obama is bigoted toward gays. There you have it. NT |
mondo joe |
Nov-09-08 11:26 PM |
#152 |
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Obama's stance on gay marriage is bigotted. |
Mari333 |
Nov-09-08 10:45 PM |
#84 |
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So you are calling your future President a bigot and saying he shouldn't be welcome here. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-09-08 10:46 PM |
#87 |
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If he came on here as a poster and didnt support gay marriage rights |
Mari333 |
Nov-09-08 10:52 PM |
#103 |
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Oh fucking get off it. Barack Obama doesn't post here |
Harvey Korman |
Nov-09-08 10:53 PM |
#105 |
| -
Crystal clear that you'll didn't think this out very well before posting. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-09-08 10:55 PM |
#109 |
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I think it's pretty well explained actually. |
Harvey Korman |
Nov-09-08 10:57 PM |
#110 |
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The definition just doesn't fit. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-09-08 11:01 PM |
#117 |
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Misspost. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-09-08 11:02 PM |
#121 |
| -
Who, you? |
Harvey Korman |
Nov-09-08 11:03 PM |
#125 |
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Sorry I'll repost it in the right place. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-09-08 11:04 PM |
#128 |
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It's also clear that you don't have the courage to call everyone who feels that way a bigot. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-09-08 11:05 PM |
#129 |
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I do. So did Skinner. They're bigots. |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 11:51 PM |
#182 |
| -
The post wasn't directed at you and definitely not Skinner. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-09-08 11:53 PM |
#187 |
| -
Happily, I have the right to reply to any post I wish. |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 11:57 PM |
#192 |
| -
Isn't freedom grand? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-10-08 12:00 AM |
#195 |
| -
Isn't freedom grand? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-10-08 12:00 AM |
#196 |
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I'm not calling anyone a bigot at this moment but I need to point out. |
yardwork |
Nov-09-08 11:49 PM |
#179 |
| -
So someone can have a bigoted position but not be a bigot? Please explain. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-10-08 12:04 AM |
#204 |
| -
nm |
Zhade |
Nov-10-08 12:15 AM |
#215 |
| -
You mean bigots will misinterpret it? |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 11:47 PM |
#176 |
| -
So the President Elect can't think clearly? I'm glad that didn't come out before the election. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-10-08 12:05 AM |
#207 |
| -
If this were a board to educate people on basic issues like human rights and social justice |
Harvey Korman |
Nov-09-08 10:39 PM |
#71 |
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You think your President Elect is a bigot? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-09-08 10:43 PM |
#76 |
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on the issue of gay civil rights, yes. don't you? nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 10:45 PM |
#85 |
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Nope. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-09-08 10:47 PM |
#90 |
| -
do you also oppose gay marriage, or just feel such opposition is not bigoted? nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 10:48 PM |
#95 |
| -
I don't think bigot is the appropriate word to define people who simply don't support gay marriage. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-09-08 10:53 PM |
#106 |
| -
you don't think it is bigoted to not support civil rights for a minority? nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 10:54 PM |
#107 |
| -
Never said that but nice try. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-09-08 10:57 PM |
#111 |
| -
Oh. So you just don't consider us a "real" minority then. |
Harvey Korman |
Nov-09-08 10:58 PM |
#112 |
| -
Never said that but nice try. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-09-08 10:59 PM |
#114 |
| -
The definition of "bigot" fits as well as it fit those who opposed interracial marriage |
Harvey Korman |
Nov-09-08 11:02 PM |
#123 |
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That would be a different action. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-09-08 11:04 PM |
#127 |
| -
Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Nov-09-08 11:06 PM |
#131 |
| -
so, what do you call someone that does not support civil rights for a minority? for any group? nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 11:02 PM |
#122 |
| -
Is that all they do? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-09-08 11:03 PM |
#126 |
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it is one thing. what would you call that view? nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 11:09 PM |
#135 |
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It would depend on the person holding that view and their actions. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-09-08 11:21 PM |
#145 |
| -
would you apply that same standard to someone that didn't think blacks should be allowed to vote? nt |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 11:24 PM |
#150 |
| -
Yes |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-09-08 11:27 PM |
#155 |
| -
Well, look in the mirror then |
Harvey Korman |
Nov-09-08 10:54 PM |
#108 |
| -
Ignorance is everywhere, I doubt many people know the definition of bigot. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-09-08 10:58 PM |
#113 |
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You need to read Skinner's post, then, since it affects your ability to even post here. |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 11:53 PM |
#186 |
| -
HUH? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-10-08 12:08 AM |
#209 |
| -
Here, let me clarify. |
Zhade |
Nov-10-08 12:28 AM |
#222 |
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I would agree that opposing those rights would make one a bigot. |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-10-08 12:59 AM |
#236 |
| -
I don't read any ridicule in the OP. Also, his position happens to match the DU rules. |
yardwork |
Nov-09-08 11:52 PM |
#184 |
| -
How would that isolate me? |
Fire_Medic_Dave |
Nov-10-08 01:31 AM |
#241 |
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Litmus tests are foolish |
sknabt |
Nov-09-08 10:46 PM |
#89 |
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so civil rights are now defined as walls? nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 10:49 PM |
#97 |
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Skinner has spoken. It is the rule here. |
Zhade |
Nov-09-08 11:56 PM |
#191 |
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Would you tombstone Obama if he started posting? |
aikoaiko |
Nov-09-08 10:48 PM |
#94 |
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he would be. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 10:50 PM |
#98 |
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Obama would not be tombstoned if he posted here |
Cali_Democrat |
Nov-09-08 10:59 PM |
#115 |
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if he expressed his views on gay marriage, he would be. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 11:01 PM |
#118 |
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Obama is bigoted toward gays. There you have it. NT |
mondo joe |
Nov-09-08 11:27 PM |
#153 |
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Obama is NOT bigoted toward gays |
Cali_Democrat |
Nov-09-08 11:36 PM |
#162 |
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Of course he is. He supports separate but equal status, which is discriminatory |
mondo joe |
Nov-09-08 11:38 PM |
#165 |
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would you welcome someone who opposed interracial marriage as well? nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 11:42 PM |
#171 |
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The poster you're asking, yesterday said he blamed Prop 8 on those fighting against it. |
mondo joe |
Nov-09-08 11:50 PM |
#181 |
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i'm ready to give up here. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 11:51 PM |
#183 |
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That poster is misrepresenting my position |
Cali_Democrat |
Nov-09-08 11:59 PM |
#194 |
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Link: |
mondo joe |
Nov-10-08 12:01 AM |
#198 |
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And I stand by everything I said. |
Cali_Democrat |
Nov-10-08 12:09 AM |
#210 |
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You laid the BLAME for Prop 8 on gays fighting it. Your words. Not mine. NT |
mondo joe |
Nov-10-08 12:11 AM |
#214 |
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Still think I was wrong when I pinned some of the blame on inadequate outreach to minorities? |
Cali_Democrat |
Nov-10-08 02:08 AM |
#246 |
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i don't need you on my side. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-10-08 12:01 AM |
#199 |
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WOW |
Cali_Democrat |
Nov-10-08 12:03 AM |
#202 |
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in what sense? nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-10-08 12:04 AM |
#206 |
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I opposed prop 8....and fought hard against it |
Cali_Democrat |
Nov-09-08 11:55 PM |
#189 |
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You actually said you BLAMED its passage on the No on 8 people. |
mondo joe |
Nov-09-08 11:57 PM |
#193 |
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I blamed the "No on 8" campaign for not doing a good enough job reaching out to minorities |
Cali_Democrat |
Nov-10-08 12:02 AM |
#201 |
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Again, you said you blame the No campaign. Not the voters, not the funders. You blame |
mondo joe |
Nov-10-08 12:05 AM |
#208 |
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They do have to take some blame for not reaching out to Hispanics and Blacks |
Cali_Democrat |
Nov-10-08 12:11 AM |
#212 |
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Saying that the anti-8 campaign could have been run better is NOT the same-- |
eridani |
Nov-10-08 03:04 AM |
#251 |
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Hell, I'd love it. But it doesn't change the fact that expressing that view would break the rules. |
Zhade |
Nov-10-08 12:35 AM |
#225 |
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Obama mentions the LGBT community in every speech he gives |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Nov-09-08 11:33 PM |
#159 |
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Homophobia isn't absolute. He's not as bigoted as Sarah Palin, let's say. |
mondo joe |
Nov-09-08 11:40 PM |
#168 |
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'btw: I'm for equality in how same sex and different sex marriages are handled by the gov' |
xchrom |
Nov-09-08 11:01 PM |
#119 |
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either civil unions for all or marriage for all. nt |
aikoaiko |
Nov-09-08 11:22 PM |
#146 |
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I'm fairly certain he would be able to post if he kept those opinions to himself. |
Zhade |
Nov-10-08 12:00 AM |
#197 |
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I don't support ANY civil marriage. |
leftofthedial |
Nov-09-08 11:06 PM |
#132 |
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Does that mean you think that all marriages should be performed by a religious officiant |
Ken Burch |
Nov-09-08 11:10 PM |
#138 |
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against the former |
leftofthedial |
Nov-09-08 11:13 PM |
#140 |
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"I doubt anybody here against interracial marriage would last very long." |
ColbertWatcher |
Nov-09-08 11:23 PM |
#147 |
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I personally don't oppose gay marriage. But this is the type of thread that just sucks. |
Tigress DEM |
Nov-09-08 11:40 PM |
#167 |
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so you think bigots should be allowed to post their hate here? nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 11:41 PM |
#170 |
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NO. I just think that people are expanding the term bigot to an insane degree. |
Tigress DEM |
Nov-10-08 12:25 AM |
#219 |
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define insane degree. is opposition to civil rights an insane degree? nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-10-08 12:27 AM |
#220 |
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The OP says that supporting "civil unions" is still being a bigot. |
Tigress DEM |
Nov-10-08 01:14 AM |
#239 |
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Would you be as welcoming to someone who opposed interracial marriage? |
mondo joe |
Nov-10-08 12:29 AM |
#224 |
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I just have a different approach to dealing with it. |
Tigress DEM |
Nov-10-08 01:38 AM |
#242 |
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Please read post #246. |
Zhade |
Nov-10-08 12:39 AM |
#227 |
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Thanks, I need to get to bed now, but I've bookmarked the thread. |
Tigress DEM |
Nov-10-08 02:58 AM |
#250 |
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If you think THIS makes you sick, imagine having your civil rights stripped from you. |
mondo joe |
Nov-09-08 11:43 PM |
#173 |
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Yeah, it has to be the worst. |
Tigress DEM |
Nov-10-08 12:41 AM |
#228 |
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Tolerance does not equal spinelessness |
LeftyMom |
Nov-09-08 11:55 PM |
#188 |
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Hear, hear. |
Zhade |
Nov-10-08 12:42 AM |
#229 |
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IF your definition of bigot is so narrow it excludes people trying to help you, it's too narrow. |
Tigress DEM |
Nov-10-08 01:05 AM |
#237 |
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Error: You've already recommended that thread. |
LeftyMom |
Nov-09-08 11:56 PM |
#190 |
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List of people who don't support gay marriage |
pettypace |
Nov-10-08 12:01 AM |
#200 |
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And those people hold a bigoted position. |
mondo joe |
Nov-10-08 12:04 AM |
#203 |
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I wasn't aware that this was the party of personality politics and hero worship. |
LeftyMom |
Nov-10-08 12:09 AM |
#211 |
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discriminatory stances by all. very unfortunate. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-10-08 12:11 AM |
#213 |
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They would not be allowed to express bigoted views here. |
Zhade |
Nov-10-08 12:43 AM |
#230 |
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Well, to be honest, DU lets a lot of anti-gay shit slide by, so there's no guarantee |
mondo joe |
Nov-10-08 12:47 AM |
#234 |
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How does this fit? I am perfectly happy when same sex marriage |
RichardRay |
Nov-10-08 12:22 AM |
#218 |
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I think you're awesome. |
Zhade |
Nov-10-08 12:45 AM |
#232 |
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How about... |
RichardRay |
Nov-10-08 01:06 AM |
#238 |
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How about if I just don't give a shit one way or the other? |
TreasonousBastard |
Nov-10-08 12:27 AM |
#221 |
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it should. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-10-08 12:29 AM |
#223 |
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Wow - you don't put same sex marriage "up there" with tossing miscegenation laws |
mondo joe |
Nov-10-08 12:38 AM |
#226 |
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this is the root cause. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-10-08 12:44 AM |
#231 |
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Read this, and answer your own question. |
Zhade |
Nov-10-08 12:47 AM |
#233 |
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I get it, you got yours and fuck everybody else. |
LeftyMom |
Nov-10-08 12:48 AM |
#235 |
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The best line: Both stances are rooted in hate, |
bluedawg12 |
Nov-10-08 01:29 AM |
#240 |
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Agreed, k&r'd. |
snot |
Nov-10-08 02:34 AM |
#248 |
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Lawd yes and thank you. |
Withywindle |
Nov-10-08 02:46 AM |
#249 |
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Agree |
LatteLibertine |
Nov-10-08 03:17 AM |
#254 |
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No. They should stay and argue their points properly. |
Festivito |
Nov-10-08 05:23 AM |
#255 |
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Don't Use Your "Choice" of Religion as a Reason To Discriminate |
we can do it |
Nov-10-08 06:54 AM |
#259 |
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recommend |
madokie |
Nov-10-08 06:58 AM |
#261 |
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Locking. |
Puglover |
Nov-10-08 06:58 AM |
#262 |
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