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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 08:39 PM
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12. Obama, as a child, could think about growing up and getting married
and starting a family.

All the 13 year old gay kid knows is that "no he can't."
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  -So what do we tell the 13 year old gay kid? ruggerson  Nov-09-08 08:29 PM   #0 
  - we tell him or her that s/he sucks  dsc   Nov-09-08 08:31 PM   #1 
  - Not the right msg  funkybug   Nov-09-08 08:51 PM   #21 
  - Lets worry about keeping the 13 YO fed. n/t  galileoreloaded   Nov-09-08 10:02 PM   #124 
     - Why so the kid can just blow his or her brains out? 1/3 of juvenile suicides are LGBT.  readmoreoften   Nov-09-08 10:54 PM   #163 
  - Sadly, not for the foreseeable future can she or he expect true equality  David Dunham   Nov-09-08 08:31 PM   #2 
  - What was Obama told about being President when he was 13?  pending   Nov-09-08 08:32 PM   #3 
  - not just 34 years ago, but i would say 4-8 years ago also  JI7   Nov-09-08 08:33 PM   #7 
  - you tell them that Obama could not have been elected not too long ago  JI7   Nov-09-08 08:32 PM   #4 
  - Obama, as a child, could think about growing up and getting married  ruggerson   Nov-09-08 08:39 PM   #12 
     - yes, but if his mother and father wanted to marry at one time they couldn't  JI7   Nov-09-08 08:44 PM   #15 
     - And strangely enough, Obama didn't learn the lesson of that.  mondo joe   Nov-09-08 08:46 PM   #17 
        - Obama opposed Proposition 8  JI7   Nov-09-08 08:49 PM   #18 
           - Modestly. And also articulated his opposition to marriage, which boosted Yes on 8.  mondo joe   Nov-09-08 08:52 PM   #23 
              - it's disappointing but it's politics, i do think Obama will improve  JI7   Nov-09-08 09:02 PM   #30 
                 - That's something to hope for.  mondo joe   Nov-09-08 09:04 PM   #33 
     - not so. not in MA and not in CT  cali   Nov-10-08 04:58 AM   #178 
  - Something about camps and shock therapy, I suppose.  LeftyMom   Nov-09-08 08:32 PM   #5 
  - unfortunately few 13 yr old gay kids even have FAMILY they can share with let alone dreams of a  msongs   Nov-09-08 08:32 PM   #6 
  - Sadly true.  JohnnyLib2   Nov-09-08 08:39 PM   #13 
  - "when the bigots talk about the "children", gay children are never part of their conversation"  Sebastian Doyle   Nov-09-08 08:35 PM   #8 
  - exactly -NT  indigo32   Nov-10-08 11:46 AM   #183 
  - Conservative parents would force him into "reparative" therapy  bluestateguy   Nov-09-08 08:37 PM   #9 
  - My dad thought that was a good idea with my brother.  kcass1954   Nov-09-08 09:03 PM   #31 
  - We tell her or him that one ballot measure lost but that the vote  Old Crusoe   Nov-09-08 08:37 PM   #10 
  - I think you should email this question to Jack Cafferty at CNN  ellius101   Nov-09-08 08:38 PM   #11 
  - be my guest  ruggerson   Nov-09-08 08:43 PM   #14 
  - We lie. We tell him his equality is important to a lot of people, and they don't think he's  mondo joe   Nov-09-08 08:45 PM   #16 
  - We cool it,  elleng   Nov-09-08 08:49 PM   #19 
  - Women didn't get the vote by "cooling it"  ruggerson   Nov-09-08 08:55 PM   #26 
  - And we don't WANT to be California anymore. I even took "Go West" off heavy Ipod rotation.  closeupready   Nov-09-08 09:48 PM   #89 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-09-08 08:50 PM   #20 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-09-08 08:52 PM   #22 
  - how about- rome wasn't built in a day?  mopinko   Nov-09-08 09:08 PM   #35 
     - GOOD mopinko!!!!  elleng   Nov-09-08 09:09 PM   #36 
     - You've got to be shitting me.  Bluebear   Nov-09-08 09:11 PM   #41 
     - Seriously  haruka3_2000   Nov-09-08 09:51 PM   #94 
        - It's like you never left.  Bluebear   Nov-09-08 09:56 PM   #106 
        - Well, at least things picked up right where they were left off  haruka3_2000   Nov-09-08 10:01 PM   #120 
        - Hope your clothing can handle treadmarks  Chulanowa   Nov-09-08 09:57 PM   #112 
        - We hardly ever get out from under the bus. In fact, we like it down here!  yardwork   Nov-09-08 10:00 PM   #116 
        - A lot of good progressives have ended up under there lately. n/t  QC   Nov-09-08 10:00 PM   #117 
        - That's because this is the best place to party!  yardwork   Nov-09-08 10:01 PM   #121 
        - You can say that again. n/t  Jamastiene   Nov-09-08 10:25 PM   #148 
        - Ah... I think i'll pass. How's the transmission looking?  Chulanowa   Nov-10-08 12:29 AM   #172 
        - We can see how well this new Columbia fleece jacket (courtesy of John Hancock) can handle it  haruka3_2000   Nov-09-08 10:02 PM   #123 
        - Nothing has changed.  Jamastiene   Nov-09-08 10:25 PM   #147 
           - I know  haruka3_2000   Nov-09-08 10:27 PM   #149 
     - FANTASTIC show of support. He must be your friend. Not like those filthy queers.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 09:35 PM   #69 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-09-08 10:12 PM   #135 
           - Thank you!  yardwork   Nov-09-08 10:19 PM   #141 
     - and just because you don't care about something  ruggerson   Nov-09-08 09:10 PM   #37 
     - did i say i didn't care? i do.  mopinko   Nov-09-08 09:26 PM   #54 
        - I know that this will come as a complete surprise to you, but the OP was not about you.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 09:27 PM   #56 
        - explain to me how the OP is in any way, shape or form "flamebait"  ruggerson   Nov-09-08 09:32 PM   #63 
        - Psst. Google "narcissistic personality disorder." Just a suggestion.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 09:34 PM   #66 
           - I'm beginning to suspect that  ruggerson   Nov-09-08 09:39 PM   #76 
           - Damn. I had the gender wrong.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 09:42 PM   #78 
              - See if she has a button you can buy  ruggerson   Nov-09-08 09:44 PM   #82 
                 - I love it! I want one desperately.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 09:45 PM   #84 
                 - "Have you shit on your friends today?"  Bluebear   Nov-09-08 09:47 PM   #86 
                    - And the old chestnut - "Sit down and shut up until we feel like bothering with you."  yardwork   Nov-09-08 09:49 PM   #91 
                    - that one alone pays the mortgage  ruggerson   Nov-09-08 09:51 PM   #93 
           - Well, that makes sense. Just go read any thread about "gifted" people where that poster replies.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 09:54 PM   #101 
           - it's a term defined by the DSM, the manual that once classified homosexuality a disorder  foo_bar   Nov-10-08 05:03 AM   #179 
        - In other words. HEY!! You queers!!! STFU and sit down!!!!  Midlodemocrat   Nov-09-08 09:33 PM   #65 
        - I recommend this post  haruka3_2000   Nov-09-08 09:53 PM   #98 
        - Yup. And it's crazy - it's not like we're going to do that.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 09:56 PM   #105 
        - Actually, Barack is one.  mondo joe   Nov-09-08 09:34 PM   #67 
        - Psssssst........  Cali_Democrat   Nov-09-08 10:15 PM   #136 
           - I voted for him, and I'm giving him a chance.  mondo joe   Nov-09-08 10:17 PM   #139 
        - I see one person "treating people like shit." And one person praising it.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 09:36 PM   #72 
        - Perspective? You'd rather feel good at the expense of discussing this issue.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 09:52 PM   #96 
        - How is asking a question shitting on people?  Jamastiene   Nov-09-08 10:28 PM   #150 
           - Yeah, but they were bridge-burny kinds of questions.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 10:39 PM   #158 
     - Let me understand. Human rights are a reward for being polite.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 09:23 PM   #47 
     - Silly! "Pick your battles!"  Bluebear   Nov-09-08 09:24 PM   #49 
     - that's not what i said, either.  mopinko   Nov-09-08 09:29 PM   #58 
        - Revision. Now I think I get it. Human rights are to be denied to those who "shit on their friends"  yardwork   Nov-09-08 09:31 PM   #60 
        - Who has been "shitting on their friends" since Tuesday?  Bluebear   Nov-09-08 09:32 PM   #62 
           - According to melt-down over there, human rights are a reward for being cool and polite.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 09:40 PM   #77 
        - Our friends aren't being shit on. Enemies of civil rights are being shit on. NT  mondo joe   Nov-09-08 09:36 PM   #71 
        - Where did you get the idea that you GIVE us our rights?  Zhade   Nov-09-08 09:57 PM   #111 
        - Now don't be rude or we'll never get rights! We gotta ask real nice.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 10:00 PM   #118 
        - Lemme get this shit off my face  mitchtv   Nov-09-08 10:16 PM   #137 
        - Rights are not won. Rights are bestowed by the government.  Jamastiene   Nov-09-08 10:32 PM   #151 
        - Human rights are "won"?  kgfnally   Nov-10-08 11:40 AM   #182 
           - ---  Bluebear   Nov-10-08 05:58 PM   #188 
     - Are you kidding? Seriously? The GLBT community should just  Midlodemocrat   Nov-09-08 09:24 PM   #50 
     - Thank you. Thank you very much!  yardwork   Nov-09-08 09:28 PM   #57 
     - that's not what i said, either.  mopinko   Nov-09-08 09:35 PM   #70 
     - Hey, genius. Know thy enemy.  Midlodemocrat   Nov-09-08 09:38 PM   #73 
     - Definitely top three  haruka3_2000   Nov-09-08 09:55 PM   #102 
        - Man. I LOVE you. And not in that whole sexual lesbian flvegan fantasy way.  Midlodemocrat   Nov-09-08 09:57 PM   #108 
           - I love you too, but not in that - you know, that gay way.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 09:59 PM   #115 
           - We don't live that far from each other. We should get together  Midlodemocrat   Nov-09-08 10:02 PM   #122 
              - Great idea! Let's meet for lunch some weekend!  yardwork   Nov-09-08 10:02 PM   #125 
              - She'll make you pick up her wine tab  haruka3_2000   Nov-09-08 10:09 PM   #133 
              - You need to come up to NJ  haruka3_2000   Nov-09-08 10:07 PM   #131 
           - I love you, too  haruka3_2000   Nov-09-08 10:06 PM   #130 
     - YOU are the only person "flaming" anybody in this thread.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 09:39 PM   #75 
     - Our friends don't criticize us for discussing this topic.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 10:01 PM   #119 
     - McClurkin.  Jamastiene   Nov-09-08 10:34 PM   #152 
     - Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuckity fuck fuck fuck.  Jamastiene   Nov-09-08 10:36 PM   #154 
        - who are you arguing with? nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 10:37 PM   #155 
     - Thank you, my ally!  Zhade   Nov-09-08 09:58 PM   #113 
        - I do get it. I've gotten it for years. And the ignorance makes me sick to my stomach.  Midlodemocrat   Nov-09-08 10:03 PM   #126 
     - I'll pick my battles. Be assured, after Prop 8 I'll be very picky. NT  mondo joe   Nov-09-08 09:26 PM   #52 
     - VERY picky, indeed.  Jamastiene   Nov-09-08 10:38 PM   #157 
     - "everyone who doesn't agree with you 100% of the time is not your mortal enemy"  Zhade   Nov-09-08 09:53 PM   #97 
        - Now, there you go burning bridges and stuff.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 09:55 PM   #103 
  - quite an ironic sig pic. nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 09:05 PM   #34 
     - I don't know if it's satire or worn proudly.  Bluebear   Nov-09-08 09:12 PM   #42 
  - Some have said President Lincoln was gay.  HypnoToad   Nov-09-08 08:52 PM   #24 
  - People have been asking about you in El Loungo. nt  RadiationTherapy   Nov-09-08 09:13 PM   #44 
     - good one  mitchtv   Nov-09-08 10:20 PM   #142 
  - Tell him/her this: "Eventually, they will die off."  Independent_Voice   Nov-09-08 08:52 PM   #25 
  - That's actually a very, very good point.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 10:03 PM   #127 
  - I would tell them you love them. Like I told my gay daughter when she was 13.  Arctic Dave   Nov-09-08 08:59 PM   #27 
  - you're a good dad  ruggerson   Nov-09-08 09:01 PM   #29 
     - Thank you.  Arctic Dave   Nov-09-08 09:04 PM   #32 
  - I don't know what to say.  ColbertWatcher   Nov-09-08 08:59 PM   #28 
  - He can't use the term married for his partner  dmordue   Nov-09-08 09:10 PM   #38 
  - Fantastic contribution.  Harvey Korman   Nov-09-08 09:16 PM   #45 
  - I'm to the point where I don't know why I even bother.  Midlodemocrat   Nov-09-08 09:26 PM   #55 
     - I realize that its a small minority of jerks. Most DUers don't agree with the gay bashing.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 09:29 PM   #59 
     - I'm just getting tired. I am SO glad that my three kids  Midlodemocrat   Nov-09-08 09:32 PM   #61 
     - It is wonderful to see how easily the younger generation gets it.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 09:43 PM   #79 
        - Interestingly, my husband and I were discussing this very issue this  Midlodemocrat   Nov-09-08 09:48 PM   #88 
           - I have nothing to add.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 09:54 PM   #99 
     - You're not. They are a breath of fresh air.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 10:06 PM   #129 
     - I would like to add my thanks to yours. Thank you, huge majority of DU, for being supporters!  yardwork   Nov-09-08 10:38 PM   #156 
     - They are in fact  mitchtv   Nov-09-08 10:23 PM   #145 
     - And we all know how THAT election turned out  haruka3_2000   Nov-09-08 09:57 PM   #109 
  - Nor can he and his partner see each other if incapacitated in the hospital in most states.  mondo joe   Nov-09-08 09:24 PM   #51 
  - More than a thousand. More than a thousand rights associated with marriage.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 09:33 PM   #64 
  - Plus, he can't have the more than 1,000 rights given to married people, even if he has a partner.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 09:26 PM   #53 
  - how about girls?  Skittles   Nov-09-08 09:10 PM   #39 
  - It's a valid point. That said, please move past the primaries already.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 10:08 PM   #132 
     - it's nothing to do with the primaries  Skittles   Nov-09-08 10:19 PM   #140 
  - We tell him or her hate is hate  ismnotwasm   Nov-09-08 09:11 PM   #40 
  - I don't know. nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 09:13 PM   #43 
  - Tell them Thomas Jefferson was right: "A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass  Stop Cornyn   Nov-09-08 09:22 PM   #46 
  - Stay away from the Catholic Church and the LDS Church. nm  rhett o rick   Nov-09-08 09:24 PM   #48 
  - Well, I'm a Catholic and I think I'm probably one of the most vocal  Midlodemocrat   Nov-09-08 09:35 PM   #68 
  - Shout out to Catholics! My partner is Catholic and so are her parents.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 09:47 PM   #87 
  - LOL. We used to say my mom was going to be the next Pope.  Midlodemocrat   Nov-09-08 09:49 PM   #90 
  - Sorry if i offend, but i don't like it when the churches interfer with legislation. nm  rhett o rick   Nov-10-08 01:35 AM   #173 
  - Don't compare Catholics with the LDS  haruka3_2000   Nov-09-08 09:59 PM   #114 
     - I did not compare. However, there are a lot of similarities.  rhett o rick   Nov-10-08 02:35 PM   #186 
  - whatever.  mopinko   Nov-09-08 09:39 PM   #74 
  - Right. It's the fault of the people who don't want to have their  Midlodemocrat   Nov-09-08 09:43 PM   #80 
  - Mopinko, you're right...  ellius101   Nov-09-08 09:44 PM   #81 
  - Thank you, ellius101.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 09:45 PM   #83 
  - ** fist bump **  ruggerson   Nov-09-08 09:46 PM   #85 
  - Holy Crap!!! You're a terrorist? I KNEW IT!!!!!  Midlodemocrat   Nov-09-08 09:50 PM   #92 
     - Well he IS queer.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 09:52 PM   #95 
     - He is???? I wish you had told me. Now I need hand sanitizer.  Midlodemocrat   Nov-09-08 09:56 PM   #104 
     - Wait. He might not be - he might be straight but a fan of human rights.  yardwork   Nov-09-08 09:57 PM   #110 
     - Being a terrorist....  ellius101   Nov-09-08 09:56 PM   #107 
        - Have a good evening. You're one of my new best friends!  yardwork   Nov-09-08 10:04 PM   #128 
     - I'm the bastard son of Bill Ayres  ruggerson   Nov-09-08 09:54 PM   #100 
     - ...  Jamastiene   Nov-09-08 10:52 PM   #161 
     - ...  Jamastiene   Nov-09-08 10:52 PM   #162 
  - Thank you for that.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 10:10 PM   #134 
  - you know, it's like when your siblings are fighting.  mopinko   Nov-09-08 10:35 PM   #153 
     - I repeat  ruggerson   Nov-09-08 10:41 PM   #159 
     - if that is a sincere question, i will answer it in the morning. nt  mopinko   Nov-09-08 11:01 PM   #165 
        - It was sincere the first time I typed it  ruggerson   Nov-09-08 11:06 PM   #166 
           - me too.  mopinko   Nov-09-08 11:23 PM   #168 
     - I'll say it on this thread as well...  AntiFascist   Nov-10-08 04:30 AM   #177 
        - 'we need to be tolerant of people who believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman'  Bluebear   Nov-10-08 06:34 PM   #189 
  - tell them - anyone gives you shit about being gay? tell them to fuck off after you hit them with a  Imagevision   Nov-09-08 10:16 PM   #138 
  - You live in an uncivilized country that is not as evolved as much as so many other  Jamastiene   Nov-09-08 10:20 PM   #143 
  - NEVER GIVE UP  Cali_Democrat   Nov-09-08 10:20 PM   #144 
  - It's true, Americans do make a big deal out of sex...  Imagevision   Nov-09-08 10:24 PM   #146 
  - According to some here we tell them "shut up and stop complaining about the weight of the bus"  GreenJ   Nov-09-08 10:41 PM   #160 
  - We tell him that there is absolutely NOTHING WRONG with him, but that there are people who believe  bob_weaver   Nov-09-08 10:55 PM   #164 
  - I think we have to tell them the truth: They're facing a lot of prejudice.  TexasObserver   Nov-09-08 11:09 PM   #167 
  - Tell him to limit discussion of this issue to the Prop 8 Forum  QC   Nov-09-08 11:27 PM   #169 
  - LOL!  yardwork   Nov-09-08 11:36 PM   #170 
  - lol  ruggerson   Nov-09-08 11:59 PM   #171 
  - --  Bluebear   Nov-10-08 02:47 AM   #175 
  - It sucks so hard.  Withywindle   Nov-10-08 01:59 AM   #174 
  - we tell them to hold on, and don't give up. I have a anti-suicide video on youtube for that,  themartyred   Nov-10-08 02:53 AM   #176 
  - Well tell them that they can be anything  CreekDog   Nov-10-08 05:46 AM   #180 
  - the other side would argue that a 13-year-old can't possibly know . . .  OneBlueSky   Nov-10-08 11:10 AM   #181 
  - this is the sad thing about this  indigo32   Nov-10-08 12:07 PM   #184 
  - Letter from a Vermont Mother  Martin Eden   Nov-10-08 12:22 PM   #185 
  - OMG that is such a sad letter  carlyhippy   Nov-10-08 02:48 PM   #187 
  - from what I've seen lately, tell him/her to STFU and get in the back of the bus. nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-10-08 06:35 PM   #190 
  - Gay is the new black!  grahamhgreen   Nov-10-08 06:36 PM   #191 

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