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Sun Nov-09-08 04:32 PM
Response to Reply #42 |
| 45. if my partner and I went to MA to get married and then came back down to NC |
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our union would not be recognized by NC
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| -What rights do gay, committed couples not have in California that married folks do? |
blindbucky |
Nov-09-08 03:55 PM |
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They Cannot Marry |
zorahopkins |
Nov-09-08 03:58 PM |
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But a domestic partnership gives them the exact same benefits, right? nt |
blindbucky |
Nov-09-08 03:59 PM |
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No, They Cannot |
zorahopkins |
Nov-09-08 04:00 PM |
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Like I said, I'm not arguing that the certificate isn't important... |
blindbucky |
Nov-09-08 04:02 PM |
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Google is your friend |
Ellen Forradalom |
Nov-09-08 03:59 PM |
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So is wikipedia: |
blindbucky |
Nov-09-08 04:01 PM |
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For not trying |
Ellen Forradalom |
Nov-09-08 04:05 PM |
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Over 500 federal rights that straight married people have |
ruggerson |
Nov-09-08 04:01 PM |
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Those are federal rights that have nothing to do with Prop 8, correct? |
blindbucky |
Nov-09-08 04:02 PM |
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Straight married couples have those rights now |
ruggerson |
Nov-09-08 04:12 PM |
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Also, a civil union ends at the state line.. |
PennyP |
Nov-09-08 04:04 PM |
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But if marriage would be allowed in California... |
blindbucky |
Nov-09-08 04:07 PM |
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States do NOT HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THIER UNION |
libnnc |
Nov-09-08 04:08 PM |
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outline for me the difference between the water in the colored and white fountains. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 04:04 PM |
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Jesus Christ... |
blindbucky |
Nov-09-08 04:05 PM |
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not defensive...just wondering what the difference was. same water. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 04:06 PM |
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It was defensive... because you were trying to prove some point... |
blindbucky |
Nov-09-08 04:08 PM |
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other than different fountains, it was the same water. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Nov-09-08 04:09 PM |
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Actually, I think the analogy is apt. |
dorkulon |
Nov-09-08 04:45 PM |
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if they move to a state that does not recognize their |
libnnc |
Nov-09-08 04:04 PM |
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They have to remarry or get another civil union then, right? |
blindbucky |
Nov-09-08 04:06 PM |
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They have NO RIGHTS in states that do not have civil union laws |
libnnc |
Nov-09-08 04:07 PM |
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OK - but if they WERE allowed to marry in California... |
blindbucky |
Nov-09-08 04:09 PM |
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NO |
libnnc |
Nov-09-08 04:10 PM |
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So the failure of Prop 8 didn't change anything in that respect, correct? |
blindbucky |
Nov-09-08 04:11 PM |
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WHAT ARE YOU SO CONFUSED ABOUT? |
libnnc |
Nov-09-08 04:13 PM |
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He's confused because you have posted multiple posts, with increasing amounts |
petronius |
Nov-09-08 04:35 PM |
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there's a wealth of resources out there for those that care to research them :-) nt |
msongs |
Nov-09-08 04:08 PM |
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I have... are we not allowed to ask questions here? |
blindbucky |
Nov-09-08 04:14 PM |
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Not according to the contract clause of the constitution. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-09-08 04:28 PM |
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if my partner and I went to MA to get married and then came back down to NC |
libnnc |
Nov-09-08 04:32 PM |
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Not according to the US constitution. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-09-08 04:47 PM |
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well then is DOMA unconstitutional? |
libnnc |
Nov-09-08 04:50 PM |
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I've never thought so. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-09-08 04:54 PM |
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And, more importantly, the "full faith & credit clause" of the 10th amendment |
prodn2000 |
Nov-09-08 05:13 PM |
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Are you looking for a justification that says they "have all the same rights" so you |
hulklogan |
Nov-09-08 04:07 PM |
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Because I don't fucking know and figured I could ask a question here and get an answer |
blindbucky |
Nov-09-08 04:09 PM |
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Why are you getting so defensive? |
hulklogan |
Nov-09-08 04:11 PM |
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I undersand the OP's question |
Athens30603 |
Nov-09-08 04:12 PM |
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Thank you... |
blindbucky |
Nov-09-08 04:13 PM |
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The biggest difference is that Domestic Partnerships |
SoCalNative |
Nov-09-08 04:08 PM |
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That applies to private companies in California, right? |
blindbucky |
Nov-09-08 04:10 PM |
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There are apparently significant legal differences, but I once didn't give consideration to the |
Mike 03 |
Nov-09-08 04:16 PM |
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I'm against the ban too... I was just wondering if it made any substantive difference... |
blindbucky |
Nov-09-08 04:17 PM |
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I think some of the legal issues mentioned above. But I'm just now learning |
Mike 03 |
Nov-09-08 04:20 PM |
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In California, you can visit your domestic partner I think... |
blindbucky |
Nov-09-08 04:22 PM |
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It's a good question and the full answer needs to be understood. |
ColbertWatcher |
Nov-09-08 04:22 PM |
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Thanks - so far, all I know is that it is cheaper and easier to get a domestic partnership... |
blindbucky |
Nov-09-08 04:24 PM |
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Domestic partnerships do not have the same protections that marriage does. |
ColbertWatcher |
Nov-09-08 04:38 PM |
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They can't legally get a divorce? |
ben_meyers |
Nov-09-08 04:25 PM |
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so maybe education is the key here.....some who are affected by prop 8 |
carlyhippy |
Nov-09-08 04:31 PM |
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Equality. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-09-08 04:31 PM |
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Gay married couples were one Supreme Court decision away from their marriages being recognized |
gollygee |
Nov-09-08 04:32 PM |
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Wasn't DOMA made to prevent just that from happening? |
JVS |
Nov-09-08 04:35 PM |
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Yes but is that in the Constitution? |
gollygee |
Nov-09-08 04:36 PM |
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Oh ok. So that one court case you mention is the court case against DOMA. |
JVS |
Nov-09-08 04:41 PM |
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Yeah my thought is . . . |
gollygee |
Nov-09-08 04:45 PM |
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Lambda Legal and other groups |
ruggerson |
Nov-09-08 04:53 PM |
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Oh definitely makes sense |
gollygee |
Nov-09-08 04:54 PM |
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the interesting thing |
ruggerson |
Nov-09-08 04:57 PM |
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Thanks - makes a lot of sense |
blindbucky |
Nov-09-08 04:43 PM |
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It's because when "Same Sex" is uttered, |
nod4rod |
Nov-10-08 03:49 AM |
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Thanks for asking this question. I've been reading reaction on other message boards.... |
marimour |
Nov-09-08 04:33 PM |
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Did it change anything? You can't be serious. It made gay people second class citizens |
Husb2Sparkly |
Nov-09-08 04:51 PM |
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personally I think government needs to get out |
Lifetimedem |
Nov-09-08 04:51 PM |
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Agreed. |
Beregond2 |
Nov-09-08 05:22 PM |
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I do see the point you've been trying to make |
laptoprepairguy |
Nov-09-08 05:03 PM |
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start here: |
MPK |
Nov-09-08 05:11 PM |
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