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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 04:32 PM
Response to Reply #42
45. if my partner and I went to MA to get married and then came back down to NC
our union would not be recognized by NC

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  -What rights do gay, committed couples not have in California that married folks do? blindbucky  Nov-09-08 03:55 PM   #0 
  - They Cannot Marry  zorahopkins   Nov-09-08 03:58 PM   #1 
  - But a domestic partnership gives them the exact same benefits, right? nt  blindbucky   Nov-09-08 03:59 PM   #2 
     - No, They Cannot  zorahopkins   Nov-09-08 04:00 PM   #4 
        - Like I said, I'm not arguing that the certificate isn't important...  blindbucky   Nov-09-08 04:02 PM   #7 
  - Google is your friend  Ellen Forradalom   Nov-09-08 03:59 PM   #3 
  - So is wikipedia:  blindbucky   Nov-09-08 04:01 PM   #5 
     - For not trying  Ellen Forradalom   Nov-09-08 04:05 PM   #12 
  - Over 500 federal rights that straight married people have  ruggerson   Nov-09-08 04:01 PM   #6 
  - Those are federal rights that have nothing to do with Prop 8, correct?  blindbucky   Nov-09-08 04:02 PM   #8 
  - Straight married couples have those rights now  ruggerson   Nov-09-08 04:12 PM   #31 
  - Also, a civil union ends at the state line..  PennyP   Nov-09-08 04:04 PM   #10 
     - But if marriage would be allowed in California...  blindbucky   Nov-09-08 04:07 PM   #16 
        - States do NOT HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THIER UNION  libnnc   Nov-09-08 04:08 PM   #20 
  - outline for me the difference between the water in the colored and white fountains. nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 04:04 PM   #9 
  - Jesus Christ...  blindbucky   Nov-09-08 04:05 PM   #13 
     - not defensive...just wondering what the difference was. same water. nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 04:06 PM   #15 
     - It was defensive... because you were trying to prove some point...  blindbucky   Nov-09-08 04:08 PM   #19 
        - other than different fountains, it was the same water. nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-09-08 04:09 PM   #24 
     - Actually, I think the analogy is apt.  dorkulon   Nov-09-08 04:45 PM   #54 
  - if they move to a state that does not recognize their  libnnc   Nov-09-08 04:04 PM   #11 
  - They have to remarry or get another civil union then, right?  blindbucky   Nov-09-08 04:06 PM   #14 
  - They have NO RIGHTS in states that do not have civil union laws  libnnc   Nov-09-08 04:07 PM   #17 
  - OK - but if they WERE allowed to marry in California...  blindbucky   Nov-09-08 04:09 PM   #23 
     - NO  libnnc   Nov-09-08 04:10 PM   #26 
        - So the failure of Prop 8 didn't change anything in that respect, correct?  blindbucky   Nov-09-08 04:11 PM   #28 
           - WHAT ARE YOU SO CONFUSED ABOUT?  libnnc   Nov-09-08 04:13 PM   #32 
              - He's confused because you have posted multiple posts, with increasing amounts  petronius   Nov-09-08 04:35 PM   #49 
  - there's a wealth of resources out there for those that care to research them :-) nt  msongs   Nov-09-08 04:08 PM   #22 
     - I have... are we not allowed to ask questions here?  blindbucky   Nov-09-08 04:14 PM   #34 
  - Not according to the contract clause of the constitution.  Radical Activist   Nov-09-08 04:28 PM   #42 
     - if my partner and I went to MA to get married and then came back down to NC  libnnc   Nov-09-08 04:32 PM   #45 
     - Not according to the US constitution.  Radical Activist   Nov-09-08 04:47 PM   #56 
        - well then is DOMA unconstitutional?  libnnc   Nov-09-08 04:50 PM   #57 
           - I've never thought so.  Radical Activist   Nov-09-08 04:54 PM   #62 
     - And, more importantly, the "full faith & credit clause" of the 10th amendment  prodn2000   Nov-09-08 05:13 PM   #66 
  - Are you looking for a justification that says they "have all the same rights" so you  hulklogan   Nov-09-08 04:07 PM   #18 
  - Because I don't fucking know and figured I could ask a question here and get an answer  blindbucky   Nov-09-08 04:09 PM   #25 
  - Why are you getting so defensive?  hulklogan   Nov-09-08 04:11 PM   #29 
  - I undersand the OP's question  Athens30603   Nov-09-08 04:12 PM   #30 
     - Thank you...  blindbucky   Nov-09-08 04:13 PM   #33 
  - The biggest difference is that Domestic Partnerships  SoCalNative   Nov-09-08 04:08 PM   #21 
  - That applies to private companies in California, right?  blindbucky   Nov-09-08 04:10 PM   #27 
  - There are apparently significant legal differences, but I once didn't give consideration to the  Mike 03   Nov-09-08 04:16 PM   #35 
  - I'm against the ban too... I was just wondering if it made any substantive difference...  blindbucky   Nov-09-08 04:17 PM   #36 
     - I think some of the legal issues mentioned above. But I'm just now learning  Mike 03   Nov-09-08 04:20 PM   #37 
        - In California, you can visit your domestic partner I think...  blindbucky   Nov-09-08 04:22 PM   #38 
  - It's a good question and the full answer needs to be understood.  ColbertWatcher   Nov-09-08 04:22 PM   #39 
  - Thanks - so far, all I know is that it is cheaper and easier to get a domestic partnership...  blindbucky   Nov-09-08 04:24 PM   #40 
     - Domestic partnerships do not have the same protections that marriage does.  ColbertWatcher   Nov-09-08 04:38 PM   #51 
  - They can't legally get a divorce?  ben_meyers   Nov-09-08 04:25 PM   #41 
  - so maybe education is the key here.....some who are affected by prop 8  carlyhippy   Nov-09-08 04:31 PM   #43 
  - Equality.  sfexpat2000   Nov-09-08 04:31 PM   #44 
  - Gay married couples were one Supreme Court decision away from their marriages being recognized  gollygee   Nov-09-08 04:32 PM   #46 
  - Wasn't DOMA made to prevent just that from happening?  JVS   Nov-09-08 04:35 PM   #48 
  - Yes but is that in the Constitution?  gollygee   Nov-09-08 04:36 PM   #50 
     - Oh ok. So that one court case you mention is the court case against DOMA.  JVS   Nov-09-08 04:41 PM   #52 
        - Yeah my thought is . . .  gollygee   Nov-09-08 04:45 PM   #55 
           - Lambda Legal and other groups  ruggerson   Nov-09-08 04:53 PM   #60 
              - Oh definitely makes sense  gollygee   Nov-09-08 04:54 PM   #61 
                 - the interesting thing  ruggerson   Nov-09-08 04:57 PM   #63 
  - Thanks - makes a lot of sense  blindbucky   Nov-09-08 04:43 PM   #53 
     - It's because when "Same Sex" is uttered,  nod4rod   Nov-10-08 03:49 AM   #68 
  - Thanks for asking this question. I've been reading reaction on other message boards....  marimour   Nov-09-08 04:33 PM   #47 
  - Did it change anything? You can't be serious. It made gay people second class citizens  Husb2Sparkly   Nov-09-08 04:51 PM   #58 
  - personally I think government needs to get out  Lifetimedem   Nov-09-08 04:51 PM   #59 
  - Agreed.  Beregond2   Nov-09-08 05:22 PM   #67 
  - I do see the point you've been trying to make  laptoprepairguy   Nov-09-08 05:03 PM   #64 
  - start here:  MPK   Nov-09-08 05:11 PM   #65 

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