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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 11:02 AM
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26. Gay People Will Be Married Long Before Straight Couples Get Civil Unionized
I can't believe how tired I am of this stupid argument.

1) Civil unions are not marriage, and never will be. That is, they will never carry the legal, societal, and emotional connotations of marriage. That's why straighty won't go for them, and why we won't settle for them.

2) If we called the drinking fountains "unity waterfalls", do you think the racists would have been cool with sharing them with the black folk?
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  -I modestly propose a ban on ALL marriage. leftofthedial  Nov-08-08 10:33 AM   #0 
  - I agree. civil unions between consenting adults only.  librechik   Nov-08-08 10:35 AM   #1 
  - Works for me  Merlot   Nov-08-08 10:35 AM   #2 
  - Or at least make it only a 6-month term that has to be renewed.  bob_weaver   Nov-08-08 10:36 AM   #3 
  - "We will breed every 7 years, like the Vulcans, that most logical race...  dmesg   Nov-08-08 10:38 AM   #6 
  - lol  bob_weaver   Nov-08-08 10:54 AM   #20 
  - Yes, that sounds good to me.  bushwentawol   Nov-08-08 10:38 AM   #7 
  - Why wasn't this discussed as an option  JackBeck   Nov-08-08 10:37 AM   #4 
  - i'll kill my marriage before i let gays have it. nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-08-08 10:40 AM   #8 
  - I modestly propose that you move forward with this plan. n/t  JackBeck   Nov-08-08 11:40 AM   #32 
  - Feminists have been talking about this  drmeow   Nov-08-08 11:30 AM   #31 
     - Loving v. Virginia  JackBeck   Nov-08-08 11:42 AM   #33 
        - My point is that it is not  drmeow   Nov-08-08 11:46 AM   #34 
  - Yep - Civil unions for all. I don't believe in religion so why believe in religious marriages?  blm   Nov-08-08 10:37 AM   #5 
  - agree  ensho   Nov-08-08 10:40 AM   #9 
  - and now it's the other way around  MindPilot   Nov-08-08 10:53 AM   #16 
  - Yea, tell all the haters that the push for gay marriage really did destroy heterosexual marriage.  crazylikafox   Nov-08-08 10:44 AM   #10 
  - It doesn't destroy marraige!  verges   Nov-08-08 12:15 PM   #41 
     - I actually agree with you. But..  crazylikafox   Nov-08-08 01:00 PM   #49 
  - Your proposal is philisophical masturbation. It does nothing for real people who today are denied  mondo joe   Nov-08-08 10:47 AM   #11 
  - you say that like masturbation is a bad thing  leftofthedial   Nov-08-08 10:53 AM   #17 
  - Masturbation is a great thing.  mondo joe   Nov-08-08 10:55 AM   #22 
     - I can see that it might not happen,  leftofthedial   Nov-08-08 12:22 PM   #42 
  - I disagree.  verges   Nov-08-08 12:24 PM   #43 
     - But it's not going to happen.  mondo joe   Nov-08-08 04:34 PM   #50 
        - Nothing happens overnight. nt  verges   Nov-08-08 10:49 PM   #51 
  - I like what France does - Civil Services for everyone, addt'l religious svcs if desired.  Justitia   Nov-08-08 10:47 AM   #12 
  - I like what Belgium, Norway, Canada, South Africa, Spain, and the Netherlands does.  JackBeck   Nov-08-08 10:52 AM   #15 
     - Oh, me too. I like the idea of everybody having a civil svc to be legal, religion is the extra.  Justitia   Nov-08-08 11:00 AM   #23 
  - I heard one legal expert say that might be the outcome;  MindPilot   Nov-08-08 10:50 AM   #13 
  - Marraige wouldn't become "illegal."  verges   Nov-08-08 12:26 PM   #45 
     - Yes, that's why I put "illegal" in "quotes"  MindPilot   Nov-09-08 11:17 AM   #52 
  - Two problems with that.  Donald Ian Rankin   Nov-08-08 10:51 AM   #14 
  - make it a purely religious, not legal/governmental, arrangement  leftofthedial   Nov-08-08 10:54 AM   #21 
  - You *could* campaign for that ,but it would be a dumb thing to do.  Donald Ian Rankin   Nov-08-08 11:22 AM   #27 
     - and one that works in many countries.  leftofthedial   Nov-08-08 12:32 PM   #48 
  - Under Civil Unions, NOTHING* can stop  verges   Nov-08-08 12:32 PM   #47 
     - Civil unions suck. which is why gay people want to be married like everyone else.  Gwendolyn   Nov-09-08 11:22 AM   #53 
        - I agree that equal rights are important.  verges   Nov-09-08 11:28 AM   #54 
           - I wouldn't get angry...we're just talkin'  Gwendolyn   Nov-09-08 11:52 AM   #57 
              - I do see what you are saying. But,  verges   Nov-09-08 11:58 AM   #58 
                 - So what you're espousing is civil marriage under a different name.  Gwendolyn   Nov-09-08 12:09 PM   #59 
  - Good idea. Relegate it to religion/custom  treestar   Nov-08-08 10:53 AM   #18 
  - I think ALL couple's "rights" should be stripped away  kevinbgoode   Nov-08-08 10:54 AM   #19 
  - What he said.  RadicalTexan   Nov-09-08 11:34 AM   #56 
  - Actually that's true  ismnotwasm   Nov-08-08 11:00 AM   #24 
  - Yes There Should.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Nov-08-08 11:02 AM   #25 
  - Gay People Will Be Married Long Before Straight Couples Get Civil Unionized  Toasterlad   Nov-08-08 11:02 AM   #26 
  - Sounds good. I have been married and divorced 3 times!  Bryn   Nov-08-08 11:24 AM   #28 
  - My thoughts  drmeow   Nov-08-08 11:28 AM   #29 
  - This issue could be put to rest by not having special benefits for  spenbax   Nov-08-08 11:29 AM   #30 
  - Are you trying to get us killed?  kenny blankenship   Nov-08-08 11:49 AM   #35 
  - Awesome. So you won't be able to visit the partner you love in the hospital either!  readmoreoften   Nov-08-08 11:51 AM   #36 
  - Two points...  RichardRay   Nov-09-08 12:35 PM   #60 
  - then there will be no alimony  carlyhippy   Nov-08-08 11:58 AM   #37 
  - "The State Shall Make No Laws Regarding Marriage"  AndyTiedye   Nov-08-08 12:00 PM   #38 
  - Or how about....  Luminous Animal   Nov-08-08 12:08 PM   #40 
  - works for me  leftofthedial   Nov-08-08 12:25 PM   #44 
  - It would certainly put a stop to divorce rates.  Just A Yeller Dawg   Nov-08-08 12:05 PM   #39 
  - This isn't actually terribly helpful.  baby_mouse   Nov-08-08 12:26 PM   #46 
  - I totally agree.  RadicalTexan   Nov-09-08 11:33 AM   #55 

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