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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 02:16 PM
Response to Reply #30
43. Stop being disingenuous.
He repeatedly calls religion superstition, myth, fantasy and delusion. That's respect?
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  -On taking Jesus back from the radical right wing torgos_pizza  Nov-07-08 11:53 AM   #0 
  - perhaps we could give them the Buddha?  maxsolomon   Nov-07-08 11:58 AM   #1 
  - I have found quoting Matthew 5:44-47 and 6:1-8 to them handy  AZDemDist6   Nov-07-08 11:59 AM   #2 
  - Yep pretty much anything from that area is a fatal blow to RW  spoony   Nov-07-08 12:23 PM   #8 
  - Matthew 25 and  kenichol   Nov-07-08 06:21 PM   #70 
     - Acts 4 34-38 n/t  Wiley50   Nov-07-08 06:55 PM   #72 
        - Many so called Christians are blind to the parts of the New Testament printed in Red Ink  Wiley50   Nov-07-08 07:07 PM   #73 
  - You aren't alone... but Christian liberals tend to get bashed...  noel711   Nov-07-08 12:04 PM   #3 
  - That is beautiful. Thanks :)  verdalaven   Nov-07-08 12:18 PM   #6 
     - Well said  RedLetterRev   Nov-07-08 06:07 PM   #68 
        - I haven't, but I will. Thanks.  verdalaven   Nov-07-08 11:15 PM   #78 
  - Wow. Welcome to DU, and heckuva job, torgos!  jobycom   Nov-07-08 12:07 PM   #4 
  - Great post!  torgos_pizza   Nov-07-08 12:44 PM   #10 
  - Well, except for the fact that religious ideas are not off-limits and attacking them is NOT bigotry.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 12:05 AM   #86 
  - I wish I knew for sure what their major malfunction is.  Liberal_Lurker   Nov-07-08 12:09 PM   #5 
  - My best friend and I aren't on speaking terms..  honkydonkey   Nov-07-08 12:20 PM   #7 
  - My brother is a fundamentalist Christian  torgos_pizza   Nov-07-08 12:47 PM   #12 
  - I'm an fundamentalist...  jeepnstein   Nov-07-08 01:10 PM   #18 
  - New Testament....  honkydonkey   Nov-07-08 05:58 PM   #66 
  - put it to them hard. ask them why they are worshiping their minister.  roguevalley   Nov-07-08 04:19 PM   #57 
  - OMG your friend sounds scary and very much a bully - sorry.  krabigirl   Nov-07-08 01:25 PM   #23 
  - Well, some of don't need the baggage of religion to take back our country.  stopbush   Nov-07-08 12:40 PM   #9 
  - All you've got is hate.  spoony   Nov-07-08 12:46 PM   #11 
  - No, I just don't see the point of giving a carve out that I don't give to  stopbush   Nov-07-08 12:55 PM   #14 
  - What's up with that? In a word: uncertainty.  Zhade   Nov-08-08 11:59 PM   #84 
  - There was no hate in his post, just dismissal.  Evoman   Nov-07-08 01:40 PM   #27 
  - I completely support Christians  Dogtown   Nov-07-08 02:11 PM   #39 
  - Don't be totally dismissive of others who are religious  torgos_pizza   Nov-07-08 12:49 PM   #13 
  - I am not dismissive of people who are religious. It's their beliefs that  stopbush   Nov-07-08 01:01 PM   #16 
  - Man, your post is so wrong I'm not sure where to even begin.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 12:04 AM   #85 
  - Wow. That reads like a Jack Chick tract, only with the names reversed.  jobycom   Nov-07-08 01:11 PM   #19 
  - Yes, I'm calling religious belief myth and superstition.  stopbush   Nov-07-08 01:43 PM   #29 
  - I'm not getting into some dumbass debate about religion, I'm talking about bigotry  jobycom   Nov-07-08 02:14 PM   #41 
  - Take a freakin breath.  Evoman   Nov-07-08 01:45 PM   #30 
     - Stop being disingenuous.  jobycom   Nov-07-08 02:16 PM   #43 
        - Of course it isn't respect.  Evoman   Nov-07-08 02:27 PM   #46 
        - Um, it IS. Are we supposed to lie and pretend it isn't?  Zhade   Nov-09-08 12:08 AM   #87 
  - thank you  krabigirl   Nov-07-08 01:23 PM   #22 
  - I don't get where people are seeing hate in your post.  Evoman   Nov-07-08 01:42 PM   #28 
  - Perhaps it's the snotty, condescending tone that puts people off. n/t  QC   Nov-07-08 02:05 PM   #35 
     - Do you really find my tone snotty, or is it a matter of my calling religion what it is?  stopbush   Nov-07-08 02:13 PM   #40 
     - "Snottiness" is not hate. And neither does it mean he is wrong.  Evoman   Nov-07-08 02:22 PM   #45 
  - I agree with you. Our government is a SECULAR government.  alarimer   Nov-07-08 02:07 PM   #37 
  - this thread is not about taking back the country.  rebel with a cause   Nov-07-08 05:39 PM   #64 
  - Great  southernyankeebelle   Nov-07-08 12:56 PM   #15 
  - Strawman, Bad Information.  Jokerman   Nov-07-08 01:10 PM   #17 
  - How is this a strawman argument?  torgos_pizza   Nov-07-08 01:19 PM   #21 
     - You are attacking liberals as being anti-religion.  Jokerman   Nov-07-08 02:58 PM   #53 
     - Are you suggesting there is little if any Christian bashing on the left???  torgos_pizza   Nov-07-08 09:26 PM   #74 
     - Yes, as a matter of fact I am.  Jokerman   Nov-08-08 11:56 PM   #83 
     - DISMISSING RELIGION IS NOT BIGOTRY. STOP CONFLATING IT WITH ATTACKING BELIEVERS.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 12:34 AM   #90 
     - Lol, are you new to this site?  spoony   Nov-08-08 04:19 AM   #79 
        - Hardly new, I've seen tactics like this time and time again.  Jokerman   Nov-08-08 11:21 PM   #82 
     - Funny...  Bluenorthwest   Nov-07-08 05:00 PM   #59 
     - Discussing a problem that should be addressed and challenged is not 'bitching' about it  torgos_pizza   Nov-07-08 09:45 PM   #75 
     - Did you somehow make the mistake of thinking that you have to right to not be offended by others?  Zhade   Nov-09-08 12:32 AM   #89 
  - How to reclaim Jesus from the radical right  amber_86   Nov-07-08 01:16 PM   #20 
  - at times ridiculing all people with faith, as worshiping the 'Flying Spaghetti Monster'  Ghost in the Machine   Nov-07-08 01:28 PM   #24 
  - Well, I clearly don't have a clue as to what you are talking about-  jhrobbins   Nov-07-08 02:04 PM   #34 
     - Then maybe you should do some research...  Ghost in the Machine   Nov-07-08 02:16 PM   #42 
  - Jim Wallis was just on Air America.... on Ed Schultz show, and gave a great rundown on this.  bobbolink   Nov-07-08 01:31 PM   #25 
  - It's possible. Evangelicals used to be at the left of Western Politics  Leopolds Ghost   Nov-07-08 01:35 PM   #26 
  - You're right, and it's sad that so many don't know this.  bobbolink   Nov-07-08 02:08 PM   # 
     - Yep  Bluenorthwest   Nov-07-08 05:06 PM   #60 
     - I hear your anger, and don't feel like being your target.  bobbolink   Nov-07-08 05:21 PM   #61 
     - That's Not True  really annoyed   Nov-08-08 05:09 AM   #80 
     - Nobody said they were the only ones....  bobbolink   Nov-08-08 12:31 PM   #81 
     - Um, bullshit. There were countless atheists and non-christians who did that as well.  Zhade   Nov-09-08 12:37 AM   #91 
  - I agree. Jesus was a liberal. He wanted to spread the wealth.  TexasObserver   Nov-07-08 01:48 PM   #31 
  - By realizing that the bible has one message- LOVE  Gregorian   Nov-07-08 01:51 PM   #32 
  - You are correct, Jesus gave two commandments...Love God and Love your neighbor  Progressive_In_NC   Nov-07-08 02:06 PM   #36 
     - Hello, neighbor and exactly  RedLetterRev   Nov-07-08 06:28 PM   #71 
  - The essential difference between Martin Luther King and the bigots of today  nichomachus   Nov-07-08 01:59 PM   #33 
  - Yes. I'm a big Jesus fan, and I don't even believe in him  RufusTFirefly   Nov-07-08 02:17 PM   #44 
     - thank you. Great words of wisdom.  bobbolink   Nov-07-08 02:29 PM   #48 
  - I do believe the only way to salvation is through Jesus,  holiday   Nov-07-08 02:08 PM   #38 
  - I believe that Jesus is one of many paths to enlightenment  torgos_pizza   Nov-07-08 02:32 PM   #49 
  - Do what you must. I can't be bothered.  dkofos   Nov-07-08 02:28 PM   #47 
  - You need to start in the progressive churches  PennyP   Nov-07-08 02:40 PM   #50 
  - Agreed.  FiveGoodMen   Nov-07-08 02:58 PM   #52 
     - A great many atheists in the US are former theists..  Fumesucker   Nov-07-08 05:56 PM   #65 
  - I'm not sure how to do it, but  hamsterjill   Nov-07-08 02:58 PM   #51 
  - What a beautiful sentiment!  bobbolink   Nov-07-08 05:23 PM   #62 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-07-08 03:04 PM   #54 
  - I'd like to "take Jesus back from them"  SoCalDem   Nov-07-08 03:05 PM   #55 
  - If Jesus is THEIR captive ...  Everybody   Nov-07-08 03:29 PM   #56 
  - Big news:  Bluenorthwest   Nov-07-08 04:37 PM   #58 
  - We made a great stride this election. Don't mind DU operatives.  Festivito   Nov-07-08 05:32 PM   #63 
  - Of course not all religious people are fundies - but it took my ex-wife to convince me of that -  codjh9   Nov-07-08 06:00 PM   #67 
  - I just spoke with Jesus...  RobertDevereaux   Nov-07-08 06:09 PM   #69 
  - Until now, there was a religious party and a secular one...  PurityOfEssence   Nov-07-08 10:30 PM   #76 
  - We're gonna need a blow torch to do that.  Nikki Stone1   Nov-07-08 10:33 PM   #77 
  - yeah, jesus was a socialist. and I'm  upi402   Nov-09-08 12:09 AM   #88 
 

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