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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 02:42 AM
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76. I just happen to know the procedure
Edited on Sun Mar-18-07 02:43 AM by nadinbrzezinski
and given how these bills come together, yes, they NEED both houses. And if they are going to do it EFFECTIVELY they need to overcome that veto pen... I know reality

I know it is hard to understand... for the pollyanas...

I am quite the Cassandra... and a realist

I hate the reality of this, since... it will lead to at least 2000 more US troops killed, oh 20K injured \ disabled, oh at least 20K Iraqis killed and 100,000 injured.

I hate that reality and I wish I would take my wand, go ooogah, ooogah, ooogah and none of this happened

Alas I live in reality... as part of the reality based community

So unless you are wishing to do something quite dramatic... you will have to work with what we have...

And what we have is far better now than it was on November 6th, 2006

You might disparage hearings, but all those hearings you disparage are part of the process to end the war, so is horse trading and alliance building, and... my pestering my congress and senate critters with letters, talking to my neighbors getting them to do the same, and essentially building coalitions. This is politics... and it is dirty and at times there is high theater, but chiefly, go blame the Framers, IT IS SLOW.

You understand it now?

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  -The Dems DO NOT have full control of both houses! Wake up! loudsue  Mar-17-07 06:05 PM   #0 
  - thing is, the "landslide" people think took place in Nov 2006 never really happened on the scale  ComerPerro   Mar-17-07 06:07 PM   #1 
  - I recall in Oct 06 that taking control of the Senate was a long shot  LSK   Mar-17-07 06:10 PM   #3 
  - but we barely have control, and even if we did there is a Repig President  ComerPerro   Mar-17-07 06:12 PM   #6 
  - Exactly!  loudsue   Mar-17-07 06:16 PM   #8 
  - My feelings, exactly.  loudsue   Mar-17-07 06:14 PM   #7 
  - Right ! it plays right into the hands of the MSM  jaysunb   Mar-17-07 06:28 PM   #21 
  - That's what I've been noticing, too.  loudsue   Mar-17-07 06:42 PM   #28 
  - Look how close VA, MO and MT were  sandnsea   Mar-18-07 03:31 AM   #79 
  - But you have to admit it was quite a victory  Pawel K   Mar-18-07 01:31 PM   #87 
  - You mean it was fraudulently minimised, don't you? Don't kid yourself it was not a landslide.  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Mar-18-07 04:01 PM   #89 
  - Filibuster = 60 votes  LSK   Mar-17-07 06:08 PM   #2 
  - And that is a big point. I doubt the Dems are inclinded to "go nuclear".  loudsue   Mar-17-07 06:11 PM   #5 
     - And the MSM would crucify them if they did.  Dr_eldritch   Mar-17-07 06:46 PM   #30 
     - That's a great idea, too. I think the Dems need to start dropping hints  loudsue   Mar-17-07 06:53 PM   #35 
     - Fairness doctrine  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-18-07 03:33 AM   #80 
     - Couldn't happen. Cheney would have to be a part of it, and I don't think  MiniMe   Mar-18-07 12:14 AM   #69 
  - You only have to see that we have not yet passed one bill into law  Robbien   Mar-17-07 06:10 PM   #4 
  - And that is disheartening. The thing that is GREAT is that we have  loudsue   Mar-17-07 06:20 PM   #11 
  - sometimes I think we need the definition of filibuster sticked to the top of GD  LSK   Mar-17-07 06:24 PM   #14 
  - Yes. That and "It Takes 67 Votes to Convict and Remove a President or VP!"  AshevilleGuy   Mar-17-07 06:27 PM   #17 
  - LOL! You think it would help?  loudsue   Mar-17-07 06:47 PM   #31 
  - Whhat happened to minimum wage? I thought that was going to happen n/t  AshevilleGuy   Mar-17-07 06:25 PM   #15 
     - No. It is weighed down with a bunch of taxcuts in the Senate  Robbien   Mar-17-07 06:51 PM   #33 
  - No! This is eating away at my sense of betrayal and outrage!!!  rockymountaindem   Mar-17-07 06:19 PM   #9 
  - That wasn't funny.  loudsue   Mar-17-07 06:23 PM   #13 
     - Don't tell *me* what's funny!  rockymountaindem   Mar-17-07 06:37 PM   #25 
        - Ok. You're funny!  loudsue   Mar-17-07 06:58 PM   #37 
           - But how outraged are you? n/t  rockymountaindem   Mar-17-07 07:23 PM   #44 
              - Well, looking down thread  loudsue   Mar-17-07 07:40 PM   #48 
  - I couldn't help myself either ( LOL) so  jaysunb   Mar-17-07 06:20 PM   #10 
  - Thanks!  loudsue   Mar-17-07 06:56 PM   #36 
  - I agree, every time I hear one of the talking heads on TV....  ClintonTyree   Mar-17-07 06:23 PM   #12 
  - I Fear That Your Sound Logic And Reasoning May Hurt Some People's Brains Here To Hear. Great Post!  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Mar-17-07 06:25 PM   #16 
  - I think sometimes it just helps to make a point of the obvious.  loudsue   Mar-17-07 06:33 PM   #23 
  - BUT! Unholy joe did  zidzi   Mar-17-07 06:27 PM   #18 
  - His "morals" only go so far, Zidzi!  loudsue   Mar-17-07 07:59 PM   #52 
  - No he didn't  MonkeyFunk   Mar-17-07 11:25 PM   #62 
  - i think johnson can vote  madrchsod   Mar-17-07 06:28 PM   #19 
  - No, Johnson can't vote unless he's there.  loudsue   Mar-17-07 07:00 PM   #39 
  - Off to the Greatest Page with you.  Cerridwen   Mar-17-07 06:28 PM   #20 
  - Thanks, Cerridwen!  loudsue   Mar-17-07 06:38 PM   #26 
  - true! In '08 we must target Dems who vote with Repubs  Shoelace   Mar-17-07 06:31 PM   #22 
  - Nelson was just re-elected last year. Pryor in 2004, I think. n/t  AshevilleGuy   Mar-17-07 06:34 PM   #24 
     - thanks, was wondering about that  Shoelace   Mar-17-07 06:38 PM   #27 
  - kick and recommend! This is so important! n/t  terip64   Mar-17-07 06:43 PM   #29 
  - If a post ever deserved a recommendation...  karlrschneider   Mar-17-07 06:49 PM   #32 
  - Thanks, Karl!  loudsue   Mar-17-07 07:14 PM   #42 
     - Naw, I'm really a grumpy old phart who wants to stick with facts and reality  karlrschneider   Mar-17-07 07:40 PM   #49 
  - This is no excuse ... being in the minority was no excuse.  JackRiddler   Mar-17-07 06:53 PM   #34 
  - SHHH trying to educate people on how this works  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-17-07 06:58 PM   #38 
  - Good points and a good job pointing this out. NT  leeroysphits   Mar-17-07 07:01 PM   #40 
  - Making the stand is far more important than the outcome.  greyhound1966   Mar-17-07 07:01 PM   #41 
  - I totally agree with "making the stand", and that's what the original post was  loudsue   Mar-17-07 07:33 PM   #46 
  - Made a mistake in the original post:  loudsue   Mar-17-07 07:20 PM   #43 
  - So I guess  LWolf   Mar-17-07 07:26 PM   #45 
  - Only 1/3 of the Senate was up for reelection in 2006. Keep that in mind. That  Peace Patriot   Mar-17-07 07:35 PM   #47 
  - And if something isn't done in a BIG HURRY, it's going to happen again  loudsue   Mar-17-07 07:52 PM   #51 
     - Hi, LoudSue! Sorry to get back to you so late. (Had to eat dinner. Had a guest.)  Peace Patriot   Mar-18-07 02:28 AM   #74 
        - That sentence should be posted at the TOP of every DU page:  loudsue   Mar-18-07 02:57 AM   #78 
  - All they need to control is THE HOUSE  TheConstantGardener   Mar-17-07 07:46 PM   #50 
  - We have some members of congress  thethinker   Mar-17-07 10:01 PM   #53 
  - Thanks entirely to the dipshitfuckwipe Connecticut electorate.  BlooInBloo   Mar-17-07 10:02 PM   #54 
  - Not quite  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-17-07 10:05 PM   #55 
     - Oh fine. I retract the word "entirely". :)  BlooInBloo   Mar-17-07 10:35 PM   #59 
        - And I made a mistake  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-17-07 11:22 PM   #61 
           - Impeachment = indictment. House = grand jury/prosecutor. Senate = jury. Chief justice = judge.  BlooInBloo   Mar-17-07 11:38 PM   #63 
              - Yep  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-17-07 11:40 PM   #65 
  - KnR. Great post -- a voice of sanity, reason, and logic has spoken!  Hekate   Mar-17-07 10:20 PM   #56 
  - Thanks, Hekate!  loudsue   Mar-17-07 11:19 PM   #60 
  - Excellent and informative post. KNR. ....n/t  WiseButAngrySara   Mar-17-07 10:20 PM   #57 
  - But there is enough control that the Dems could stop this war  MadHound   Mar-17-07 10:34 PM   #58 
  - No, it is not a matter of will  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-17-07 11:42 PM   #66 
     - For the LAST TIME they don't need 60 votes in the Senate  TheConstantGardener   Mar-18-07 02:32 AM   #75 
     - I just happen to know the procedure  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-18-07 02:42 AM   #76 
     - Ummm, did you even read my post?  MadHound   Mar-18-07 06:57 AM   #83 
  - If we wait for control of the Senate, we'll be waiting forever...  ToeBot   Mar-17-07 11:38 PM   #64 
  - Hmm you do kow that there are enough repukes up for  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-17-07 11:43 PM   #67 
  - Thanks for telling people about reality  nolabels   Mar-17-07 11:57 PM   #68 
  - Thank you, nolabels!  loudsue   Mar-18-07 12:19 AM   #70 
  - K&R, thanks for the reality check loudsue! nt  Land Shark   Mar-18-07 12:28 AM   #71 
  - I agree, our control is very slim at best in the senate  MasterDarkNinja   Mar-18-07 12:41 AM   #72 
  - Nitpick here  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-18-07 02:46 AM   #77 
     - You're right about that, Nadin. And I'm beginning to think that  loudsue   Mar-18-07 03:56 AM   #81 
        - Look at Watergate  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-18-07 04:07 AM   #82 
  - Bingo.  ellisonz   Mar-18-07 02:25 AM   #73 
  - They have the numbers to start the wheels of justice turning.  mmonk   Mar-18-07 07:25 AM   #84 
  - A lot of pugs are up in the Senate in 08; we must get rid of the voting  MasonJar   Mar-18-07 11:38 AM   #85 
  - Thank You for adding clarity to what is certainly a frustrating situation  Morereason   Mar-18-07 11:59 AM   #86 
  - Always an excuse.  RestoreGore   Mar-18-07 03:21 PM   #88 
  - A well-needed post.  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Mar-18-07 04:02 PM   #90 

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