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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-08 03:11 PM
Response to Reply #156
164. Thank you yourself, friend
Good to see you too. :hug:
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  -FYI for our White Friends: Here's a form of discrimination you probably have no idea exists HamdenRice  Oct-30-08 07:01 AM   #0 
  - I predict this will turn very nasty, very quickly. - n/t  Marrah_G   Oct-30-08 07:07 AM   #1 
  - Me too  LostinVA   Oct-30-08 07:34 AM   #22 
  - I think I get you...I overhead something similar a couple years ago,  grannylib   Oct-30-08 07:07 AM   #2 
  - Thanks Granny, that's exactly what I mean  HamdenRice   Oct-30-08 07:10 AM   #4 
  - I agree....I wanted to smack them both, but I simmered for a while and  grannylib   Oct-30-08 07:34 AM   #23 
  - That's happened to me before  Roxi   Oct-30-08 09:22 AM   #77 
  - Crying children get on people's nerves. Some people just can't handle it.  quantessd   Oct-30-08 05:19 PM   #179 
  - I know that :)  Roxi   Oct-30-08 10:45 PM   #197 
  - There always seems to be a bunch of these  BamaGirl   Oct-31-08 03:56 AM   #204 
  - it is meant to be public shaming  amdezurik   Oct-30-08 05:54 PM   #184 
  - Recommended.  Dennis Donovan   Oct-30-08 07:08 AM   #3 
  - Thank you.  AllieB   Oct-30-08 07:10 AM   #5 
  - Nice Post  princehal   Oct-30-08 07:11 AM   #6 
  - i did that the other day. i had a black guy carry out groceries. he read my stickers, we high five  seabeyond   Oct-30-08 07:12 AM   #7 
  - good for you..  Usrename   Oct-30-08 10:15 AM   #99 
  - She didn't do herself any favors  CJCRANE   Oct-30-08 07:14 AM   #8 
  - Makes sense to me  ColoradoMagician   Oct-30-08 07:15 AM   #9 
  - Kinda paranoid  DangerDave921   Oct-30-08 07:16 AM   #10 
  - "I've certainly never encountered such a thing"  HamdenRice   Oct-30-08 07:21 AM   #12 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-30-08 07:24 AM   #15 
  - I am not AA  DangerDave921   Oct-30-08 07:26 AM   #16 
     - The point is that almost by definition you really couldn't know, right?  HamdenRice   Oct-30-08 07:33 AM   #21 
     - a couple thoughts  DangerDave921   Oct-30-08 07:40 AM   #32 
     - I'm assuming you are not racist  HamdenRice   Oct-30-08 07:43 AM   #35 
     - but you don't know that those whites are racist  hfojvt   Oct-30-08 12:06 PM   #142 
     - Well, I'm white and I've seen this happen.  dgibby   Oct-30-08 12:42 PM   #151 
     - you are right about that!  DangerDave921   Oct-30-08 07:51 AM   #41 
        - It's a teachable moment. I went through the same thing with my gay friends  HamdenRice   Oct-30-08 07:56 AM   #44 
     - White Privilege Benefit #1973187  Chovexani   Oct-30-08 09:16 AM   #76 
        - I didn't say that  DangerDave921   Oct-30-08 09:54 AM   #92 
        - You didn't have to say it.  Chovexani   Oct-30-08 10:20 AM   #103 
           - OK I'll bite  DangerDave921   Oct-30-08 10:28 AM   #106 
              - you didn't read the link  hfojvt   Oct-30-08 12:21 PM   #146 
        - A similar phenomenon happens when men hear about women being sexual harrassed, date raped, etc.  quantessd   Oct-30-08 05:27 PM   #180 
           - that is so true.. the assholes don't act up in front of any other men, so they have no idea at all.  bettyellen   Oct-30-08 06:16 PM   #186 
     - I was shocked the first time African Americans told me that security follows them around in stores.  crispini   Oct-30-08 07:37 AM   #27 
        - And that doesn't happen "sometimes." It happens 80-90% of the time.  HamdenRice   Oct-30-08 07:39 AM   #31 
        - absolutely  Two Americas   Oct-30-08 12:25 PM   #148 
        - I find the 80-90% number hard to believe  hfojvt   Oct-30-08 12:33 PM   #149 
        - I agree  DangerDave921   Oct-30-08 07:42 AM   #34 
           - You don't believe anything that other people tell you about their experience?  crispini   Oct-30-08 07:49 AM   #37 
           - Of course it might be true  DangerDave921   Oct-30-08 07:56 AM   #43 
              - the burden  Two Americas   Oct-30-08 12:36 PM   #150 
              - No offense, but continuing to argue the point of whether it does or does not  ThruTheLookingGlass   Oct-30-08 08:31 PM   #193 
           - In a way, your perception is part of the problem  kwassa   Oct-30-08 11:22 AM   #128 
              - great point  Two Americas   Oct-30-08 12:47 PM   #153 
  - Danger Dave  Fumesucker   Oct-30-08 08:04 AM   #46 
  - Wow, thanks! nt  HamdenRice   Oct-30-08 08:13 AM   #50 
  - I just calls 'em like I sees 'em .. n/t  Fumesucker   Oct-30-08 08:22 AM   #54 
  - Another GMTA moment  MindPilot   Oct-30-08 11:19 AM   #126 
  - Yep, being instantly recognizable as "other".  Fumesucker   Oct-31-08 07:47 AM   #221 
  - Yes -- I lived for a while in a very racist area in the South...  SmokingJacket   Oct-30-08 11:53 AM   #140 
  - Ahhhh......  Realityhack   Oct-30-08 10:55 PM   #198 
     - It's a high school thing that a lot of people never get over.  Fumesucker   Oct-31-08 07:39 AM   #220 
        - Oh I get the 'loud talking' thing. I just never got the song completely n/t  Realityhack   Oct-31-08 11:20 AM   #225 
  - It does happen. It's a tactic of bullies.  Dora   Oct-30-08 11:08 AM   #121 
  - I've encountered "such a thing",  NOLALady   Oct-30-08 11:52 AM   #139 
  - Oh, Dave...  Ignis   Oct-30-08 03:57 PM   #173 
  - Now you have been tombstoned. nt  Selatius   Oct-30-08 05:03 PM   #177 
  - And about time, too. That guy was a thinly-veiled disruptor from day one.  dicksteele   Oct-30-08 08:49 PM   #195 
  - Not one moment too soon. Today's going to be a good day, I can tell!  Judi Lynn   Oct-31-08 06:09 AM   #214 
  - I am white and I have encountered such a thing.  rebel with a cause   Oct-30-08 05:47 PM   #183 
  - I agree. I am very attuned to racial issues and this is one that I have not encountered. nt  live love laugh   Oct-30-08 06:56 PM   #189 
  - I'm white and I have witnessed it first hand. When in a mixed group...  Pacifist Patriot   Oct-31-08 07:16 AM   #218 
  - You're Right. I Hadn't Heard of This  ribofunk   Oct-30-08 07:19 AM   #11 
  - Welfare, eh? Well.... well... There are going to be an awful lot of those imbeciles  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Oct-30-08 07:21 AM   #13 
  - Technically  undergroundpanther   Oct-31-08 12:23 AM   #200 
  - I haven't read the other thread, but your point is well taken.  timeforarevolution   Oct-30-08 07:23 AM   #14 
  - You're not paranoid at all, they do that to white people too.  Waiting For Everyman   Oct-30-08 07:27 AM   #17 
  - Best response yet -- EXCELLENT  LostinVA   Oct-30-08 07:34 AM   #25 
  - Since Newt and Delay, Liberals are the the *scum* of the earth to republican right wingers.  ShortnFiery   Oct-30-08 07:39 AM   #30 
  - Very true....  timeforarevolution   Oct-30-08 07:40 AM   # 
  - Hey, tfar...  Waiting For Everyman   Oct-30-08 08:11 AM   #49 
     - I've been saying they're "irrelevant." It confuses them a bit...lol  timeforarevolution   Oct-30-08 08:18 AM   #52 
        - Lol, ouch!  Waiting For Everyman   Oct-30-08 08:41 AM   #60 
           - I just realized that the "viral email" phenomenon is an example...  timeforarevolution   Oct-30-08 08:44 AM   #62 
  - I had something similar happen to me the other day  Marrah_G   Oct-30-08 07:49 AM   #38 
     - There ya go,  Waiting For Everyman   Oct-30-08 08:49 AM   #63 
  - It is juvenile and self-serving to assume anyone who doesn't support Obama is a "racist"  Romulox   Oct-30-08 07:29 AM   #18 
  - What actually did the person ejbr overheard say?  HamdenRice   Oct-30-08 07:37 AM   #28 
  - The comments were not directed at ejbr; ejbr CHOSE to interject himself into another's conversation  Romulox   Oct-30-08 07:50 AM   #39 
  - OK, since you have a blindspot when it comes to race, assume it's a handicap  HamdenRice   Oct-30-08 08:01 AM   #45 
     - I could as easily say you have a blindspot as to basic logic and common sense  Romulox   Oct-30-08 09:00 AM   #67 
        - no  Two Americas   Oct-30-08 01:02 PM   #154 
  - I often say I think Mccain supporters are braindead and ignorant.  Marrah_G   Oct-30-08 07:51 AM   #40 
  - lol  Chovexani   Oct-30-08 10:22 AM   #104 
  - Speaking of "unpacking"--the poster you're defending is one of the biggest supporters of neoliberal  Romulox   Oct-30-08 10:42 AM   #110 
     - Project much?  HamdenRice   Oct-30-08 10:47 AM   #112 
        - Based on your other posts, I sincerely doubt you even know what "neoliberal economics" are  Romulox   Oct-30-08 10:51 AM   #113 
           - You realize you are repeating Fox News talking points, right?  HamdenRice   Oct-30-08 11:11 AM   #122 
              - Not "someone". YOU. nt  Romulox   Oct-30-08 11:12 AM   #124 
  - Why are you deliberately distorting what the OPer said?  clear eye   Oct-30-08 10:54 AM   #114 
  - Because I read the original thread on which this one is based. No distortion.  Romulox   Oct-30-08 11:01 AM   #117 
     - But you are stubbornly ignoring the point THIS OPer is making--  clear eye   Oct-30-08 11:11 AM   #123 
        - Oh, I do not for a moment deny the phenomenon is real. However, the OP refers to an actual incident  Romulox   Oct-30-08 11:18 AM   #125 
  - I disagree.  Bornaginhooligan   Oct-30-08 10:56 AM   #115 
     - Well, considering the fact that you're a provacateur/attention seeker  Romulox   Oct-30-08 11:02 AM   #118 
        - You're projecting.  Bornaginhooligan   Oct-30-08 11:05 AM   #119 
        - ......  carlyhippy   Oct-30-08 08:37 PM   #194 
        - LOL  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Oct-31-08 09:45 AM   #223 
  - I've experienced it although I'm not A-A n/t  cosmicone   Oct-30-08 07:32 AM   #19 
  - Good point  Lurking_Argyle   Oct-30-08 07:32 AM   #20 
  - Um, I'm pretty sure ebjr is a him,  crispini   Oct-30-08 07:34 AM   #24 
  - it says so in his profile. nt  jonnyblitz   Oct-30-08 07:40 AM   #33 
  - OK, fixed it in the OP -- thanks! nt  HamdenRice   Oct-30-08 07:48 AM   #36 
  - Recommended.  lostnfound   Oct-30-08 07:36 AM   #26 
  - I can see that happening  leftchick   Oct-30-08 07:39 AM   #29 
  - I sent my son to a predominately white Catholic School.  NOLALady   Oct-30-08 12:23 PM   #147 
     - I am so sorry  leftchick   Oct-30-08 03:29 PM   #168 
  - Lots of good points to consider  Orrex   Oct-30-08 07:52 AM   #42 
  - Thanks for this insight  ayeshahaqqiqa   Oct-30-08 08:04 AM   #47 
  - for a second there  Sheepshank   Oct-31-08 11:17 AM   #224 
  - We call it "loud talking"  Solly Mack   Oct-30-08 08:04 AM   #48 
  - As always, Hamden, thank you for the great post.  myrna minx   Oct-30-08 08:16 AM   #51 
  - EJBR here  ejbr   Oct-30-08 08:21 AM   #53 
  - "...as I hope you would too"  QuestionAll   Oct-30-08 09:01 AM   #68 
  - With all due respect,  ejbr   Oct-30-08 09:27 AM   #79 
  - that was YOUR assumption.  QuestionAll   Oct-30-08 09:36 AM   #83 
     - Are you purposefully being obtuse?  ejbr   Oct-30-08 09:47 AM   #90 
  - I am a civilized person, as you say, QuestionAll, and on two occasions I have "gone off"  bertman   Oct-30-08 09:44 AM   #88 
  - BRAVO!!! n/t  ejbr   Oct-30-08 09:49 AM   #91 
  - Right on the money again, bertman...  Psyop Samurai   Oct-30-08 10:30 AM   #107 
  - Yeah! What bertman said!  Suspicious   Oct-30-08 11:37 AM   #132 
  - this is a bit off topic but not unrelated...I was molested on a public bus  angstlessk   Oct-30-08 01:40 PM   #158 
  - Same here, angstlessk, it struck me the same way as I was thinking about some of the  bertman   Oct-30-08 07:55 PM   #192 
  - Excellent post.  myrna minx   Oct-30-08 02:22 PM   #162 
  - very good  Two Americas   Oct-30-08 03:27 PM   #167 
  - I agree  Caliman73   Oct-31-08 05:06 PM   #227 
  - You don't get it  hawkowl88   Oct-30-08 12:11 PM   #143 
  - How the hell do you know all that?  spoony   Oct-31-08 06:22 AM   #216 
  - Hot Da%N, hawkowl! NAIL ON THE HEAD!!!!  Fire1   Oct-31-08 10:23 PM   #228 
  - say what?  Two Americas   Oct-30-08 01:10 PM   #155 
  - You're my hero!  Number23   Oct-31-08 04:38 AM   #205 
     - the "soft bigotry of low expectations" ??? That was not Obama; that was George W. Bush  HamdenRice   Oct-31-08 06:26 AM   #217 
        - Obama has referred to this phrase as well  Number23   Oct-31-08 03:56 PM   #226 
  - I totally get it. I've had it happen to me.  knitter4democracy   Oct-30-08 08:23 AM   #55 
  - GLBT people don't experience this type of behavior  nichomachus   Oct-30-08 08:24 AM   #56 
  - Er. Yes we do.  Chovexani   Oct-30-08 09:09 AM   #71 
  - No -- I'm not trying to start a controversy  nichomachus   Oct-30-08 09:32 AM   #81 
     - I think it's all according to the environment  Chovexani   Oct-30-08 10:08 AM   #98 
  - Happend to me last week too  Bluenorthwest   Oct-30-08 09:16 AM   #75 
  - Sorry, but that isn't a valid reason for ejbr's over the top reaction  MadHound   Oct-30-08 08:26 AM   #57 
  - Obviously your post isn't about the OP  HamdenRice   Oct-30-08 08:51 AM   #64 
     - Amazing, how you deduce these matters when you weren't even there  MadHound   Oct-30-08 11:27 AM   #130 
  - I didn't weigh in on that thread yesterday  shadowknows69   Oct-30-08 08:29 AM   #58 
  - I am a white female and I know EXACTLY what you are talking  whathehell   Oct-30-08 08:37 AM   #59 
  - You're right, and it is meant as an intimidation tactic  Chovexani   Oct-30-08 09:02 AM   #69 
     - Not all bullies are cowards  Orrex   Oct-30-08 09:07 AM   #70 
     - They are all cowards, period.  Chovexani   Oct-30-08 09:12 AM   #72 
        - I think that you're letting bullies off to easily  Orrex   Oct-30-08 12:18 PM   #144 
     - Thanks for that confirmation..Yes, they generally ARE cowards  whathehell   Oct-30-08 12:45 PM   #152 
  - Sometimes, it's what people don't say.  formercia   Oct-30-08 08:43 AM   #61 
  - My friends and I have take on a "fight fire with fire" approach to  EnviroBat   Oct-30-08 08:53 AM   #65 
  - That sounds like a good way to handle things! nt  Roxi   Oct-30-08 09:58 AM   #94 
  - Thank you. A million times, thank you.  Chovexani   Oct-30-08 08:57 AM   #66 
  - You welcome. Remember "Black Like Me"?  HamdenRice   Oct-30-08 09:15 AM   #73 
  - I remember that.  Chovexani   Oct-30-08 09:26 AM   #78 
  - Damn, I was going to mention that.  illuminaughty   Oct-31-08 03:49 AM   #203 
  - very well said  Two Americas   Oct-30-08 01:16 PM   #156 
     - Thank you yourself, friend  Chovexani   Oct-30-08 03:11 PM   #164 
  - I posted before about the conversation I overheard in a restaurant near home  Lydia Leftcoast   Oct-30-08 09:15 AM   #74 
  - I don't know if I'd call that discrimination...  TCJ70   Oct-30-08 09:30 AM   #80 
  - No it's not "all Obama supporters. Me. You."  HamdenRice   Oct-30-08 09:39 AM   #86 
     - There's a difference in your example with "cripples"...  TCJ70   Oct-30-08 11:30 AM   #131 
        - but 90% of blacks support Obama - so it's an easy leap for this man to make that ebj was a captive  bettyellen   Oct-30-08 06:55 PM   #188 
  - I have a neonazi{repub} friend that sent nazi literature.  Gman2   Oct-30-08 09:34 AM   #82 
  - I read the post and I agree with what your saying  notadmblnd   Oct-30-08 09:38 AM   #84 
  - Your husband reacted that way because it was not new to him.  Chovexani   Oct-30-08 10:15 AM   #100 
     - I wasn't trying to educate him. I was attempting to educate the cashier and management  notadmblnd   Oct-30-08 10:25 AM   #105 
  - I think I am guilty of the reverse  treestar   Oct-30-08 09:38 AM   #85 
  - A word (or two) about the "eavesdropping" question  Solly Mack   Oct-30-08 09:43 AM   #87 
  - RIGHT ON!!! n/t  ejbr   Oct-30-08 09:54 AM   #93 
  - I had southern aunts that could have entire conversations out loud in the kitchen  HamdenRice   Oct-30-08 10:08 AM   #97 
  - I know exactly what you're saying about the aunts! LOL!  Solly Mack   Oct-30-08 10:17 AM   #101 
  - Speaking out against this crap is necessary.  kwassa   Oct-30-08 11:44 AM   #134 
  - a far worse transgression  Two Americas   Oct-30-08 03:26 PM   #166 
  - I would agree with your analysis, BUT for this one fact:  Terran   Oct-30-08 09:44 AM   #89 
  - "about Obama's supporters, and not even about the man himself" - but that's the point!!  HamdenRice   Oct-30-08 10:06 AM   #96 
     - I totally disagree  Terran   Oct-30-08 10:40 AM   #109 
        - Nope. We were schooled about the Dixie Chicks.  Gman2   Oct-30-08 01:42 PM   #159 
           - "Proper dealing with clods entails a slow progression..."  HamdenRice   Oct-30-08 01:48 PM   #160 
  - Point taken, but  pipi_k   Oct-30-08 10:05 AM   #95 
  - Actually, women experience this shit daily too. Yes, it stinks.  MookieWilson   Oct-30-08 10:18 AM   #102 
  - It's a way of making someone a nonperson. It does happen to women  sfexpat2000   Oct-30-08 11:48 AM   #135 
  - Right on, brother!  cat_girl25   Oct-30-08 10:34 AM   #108 
  - Excellent piece!  Poll_Blind   Oct-30-08 10:44 AM   #111 
  - Without knowing ejbr was black..  skooooo   Oct-30-08 10:56 AM   #116 
  - It's still no excuse.  JackDragna   Oct-30-08 11:06 AM   #120 
  - I say when confronted with racism,  Suspicious   Oct-30-08 11:20 AM   #127 
  - Yes, it's absolutely true. I've seen it.  TexasObserver   Oct-30-08 11:27 AM   #129 
  - Well, it's good we can agree on some things and disagree on other things  HamdenRice   Oct-30-08 11:42 AM   #133 
     - Indeed.  TexasObserver   Oct-30-08 12:01 PM   #141 
  - Surely everyone has experienced this, even if not the racist version  gollygee   Oct-30-08 11:49 AM   #136 
  - I get it, but that is because friends while hubby was in the navy were  nadinbrzezinski   Oct-30-08 11:49 AM   #137 
  - Thank you , HamdenRice.  Gormy Cuss   Oct-30-08 11:50 AM   #138 
  - you are right  Two Americas   Oct-30-08 12:20 PM   #145 
  - I always get followed around in North Park Hardware even though I am a white of pure kraut origin  slackmaster   Oct-30-08 01:19 PM   #157 
  - Thanks HR.  NOLALady   Oct-30-08 02:03 PM   #161 
  - I've seen it happen, from three angles  Chulanowa   Oct-30-08 02:25 PM   #163 
  - Think about this  Danascot   Oct-30-08 03:25 PM   #165 
  - dead racists  Two Americas   Oct-30-08 03:35 PM   #170 
  - Of course you are right. n/t  mhatrw   Oct-30-08 03:34 PM   #169 
  - Ya know if it wasn't done in the spirit of "fuck you"  BoneDaddy   Oct-30-08 03:41 PM   #171 
  - Excellent post!  proud2Blib   Oct-30-08 03:43 PM   #172 
  - thanks for posting this -- I've seen that kind of thing happen quite a bit  fishwax   Oct-30-08 04:05 PM   #174 
  - Anyone familiar with "The Invisible Man" by Ralph Ellison?  BrklynLiberal   Oct-30-08 04:11 PM   #175 
  - Thanks for the information my Black Friend!  MellowDem   Oct-30-08 04:49 PM   #176 
  - Pay a waiter to pour water on them accidentally......  lyonn   Oct-30-08 05:12 PM   #178 
  - You are not paranoid....it happens a lot...not just to African Americans  Alameda   Oct-30-08 05:42 PM   #181 
  - Of course your right. I even remember sititng in a restaurant with  Evoman   Oct-30-08 05:43 PM   #182 
  - another example from an aa  coolhandlulu   Oct-30-08 06:11 PM   #185 
  - Thank You for letting me walk a moment....  chknltl   Oct-30-08 06:49 PM   #187 
  - White Privilege  ismnotwasm   Oct-30-08 07:19 PM   #190 
  - word? impulse control is a racial thing  Pavulon   Oct-30-08 07:30 PM   #191 
  - Thank you. n/t  Mister Ed   Oct-30-08 09:52 PM   #196 
  - I have gotten that kind of shit  undergroundpanther   Oct-31-08 12:17 AM   #199 
  - Oh hell yeah.  illuminaughty   Oct-31-08 02:53 AM   #201 
  - My daughter has two white children.  ClayZ   Oct-31-08 03:33 AM   #202 
  - i get what you're saying  hiphopnation23   Oct-31-08 04:55 AM   #206 
  - I am often targeted with such behavior.  ContraBass Black   Oct-31-08 04:59 AM   #207 
  - I don't think you're being paranoid, I think you're being picky...  bridgit   Oct-31-08 05:26 AM   #208 
  - Thank you. This is why we read. nt  tbyg52   Oct-31-08 05:26 AM   #209 
  - I have seen this in action and it is infuriating..  annabanana   Oct-31-08 05:29 AM   #210 
  - When you lance a boil, it's ugly and messy at first, but then...  Chalco   Oct-31-08 05:42 AM   #211 
  - Yes being married to my wife I have seen much racism  JonLP24   Oct-31-08 05:58 AM   #212 
  - As a white person I am aware this exists  SheWhoMustBeObeyed   Oct-31-08 06:00 AM   #213 
  - Actually I do know it exists because it has happened to me  brazenlyliberal   Oct-31-08 06:12 AM   #215 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-31-08 07:21 AM   #219 
  - I'm a very attractive woman. I get followed around everywhere I  deaniac21   Oct-31-08 08:29 AM   #222 
 

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