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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 06:50 AM
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27. the BIG LIE being perpetrating with this figure is this:
Obama's plan is not going to hand out money to people who pay no taxes. The tax cuts will be for those who actually pay taxes. If your kid gets paid for a paper route and doesn't make the "who has to file" threshold, no tax bread for him. . sorry.

Why the bobbleheads let this pass all the time is worth asking.
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  -Where does the 40% pay no tax talking point come from? zeos3  Oct-22-08 07:53 PM   #0 
  - Good question. n/t  ColbertWatcher   Oct-22-08 07:53 PM   #1 
  - It's pretty close to the truth.  ingac70   Oct-22-08 07:55 PM   #2 
  - Most wages have withholding  sandnsea   Oct-22-08 07:56 PM   #5 
  - Increase your exemptions so the government doesn't "hold" your money!  fed_up_mother   Oct-23-08 07:32 AM   #31 
  - Not quite true.  Warpy   Oct-22-08 08:00 PM   #8 
  - Right  zeos3   Oct-22-08 08:11 PM   #12 
     - There are no exemptions to claim on OASDI  Warpy   Oct-22-08 08:16 PM   #17 
        - That's a good point  zeos3   Oct-22-08 08:48 PM   #23 
  - That's a key dinstinction- the 40% don't pay INCOME TAX, but they do pay SALES TAXES. n/t  ColbertWatcher   Oct-22-08 08:20 PM   #20 
  - I worked the night shift part-time for a hotel chain and all of my taxes were refunded  nc4bo   Oct-23-08 07:44 AM   #34 
  - Low income people get full refunds  sandnsea   Oct-22-08 07:55 PM   #3 
  - Not really,  EC   Oct-22-08 08:10 PM   #11 
     - See...  zeos3   Oct-22-08 08:14 PM   #14 
     - fwiw  Rancid Crabtree   Oct-23-08 06:27 AM   #24 
     - Low income parents?  sandnsea   Oct-22-08 08:14 PM   #15 
  - Excised from their terminal sphincter,  baldguy   Oct-22-08 07:56 PM   #4 
  - Welfare/poor people pay no income taxes, mainly can't pay what you don't have an  mrcheerful   Oct-22-08 07:57 PM   #6 
  - I don't know, isn't the zero tax at like< $6,000 a year gross?  EC   Oct-22-08 07:57 PM   #7 
  - Yeah...  zeos3   Oct-22-08 08:15 PM   #16 
  - In 2007 a single person with no dependents did not have to pay  bornskeptic   Oct-23-08 09:57 AM   #38 
  - They are ignoring Sales Tax  machI   Oct-22-08 08:03 PM   #9 
  - Yes I see that  zeos3   Oct-22-08 08:18 PM   #18 
  - Many people have low enough incomes and/or enough deductions  petronius   Oct-22-08 08:06 PM   #10 
  - That's what I mean  zeos3   Oct-22-08 08:19 PM   #19 
  - ... that would be the millionaires with accountants and loopholes ....  Myrina   Oct-22-08 08:12 PM   #13 
  - I have a feeling they might be  zeos3   Oct-22-08 08:21 PM   #21 
  - I wonder if they are including those on SS  EC   Oct-22-08 08:27 PM   #22 
  - More like 38%, but payroll taxes aren't included.  dorkulon   Oct-23-08 06:37 AM   #25 
  - Similar To The Immigration Strawman  KharmaTrain   Oct-23-08 06:46 AM   #26 
     - See this thread.  dorkulon   Oct-23-08 07:30 AM   #30 
        - A Very Good Post...  KharmaTrain   Oct-23-08 07:43 AM   #33 
           - I wish the campaign would push that message harder... they should call it "Wealth-care."  dorkulon   Oct-23-08 08:21 AM   #36 
              - It Just Isn't "Sexy"  KharmaTrain   Oct-23-08 08:30 AM   #37 
  - the BIG LIE being perpetrating with this figure is this:  annabanana   Oct-23-08 06:50 AM   #27 
  - Two-thirds pay more Payroll tax than Income tax  TorchesAndPitchforks   Oct-23-08 06:53 AM   #28 
  - Is it 40% of people or of working people?  DeeDeeNY   Oct-23-08 07:02 AM   #29 
  - That's what I'm trying to figure out eom  zeos3   Oct-23-08 01:52 PM   #40 
  - Recent article on this:  muriel_volestrangler   Oct-23-08 07:32 AM   #32 
  - Thanks for the article eom  zeos3   Oct-23-08 01:51 PM   #39 
  - The RW talking point that gets me is that if you want to give them a tax cut  MiniMe   Oct-23-08 07:58 AM   #35 
 

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