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Mon Oct-20-08 11:22 AM
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| 26. I loath Powell for that presentation, he should be ashamed of what he did. I also think |
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that mrbushandhisevilminions would have attacked anyway, found someone else to do the presentation and done what they wanted anyway. But I agree about Mr.Powell swaying undecideds.
Realize that one of the reasons Mr.Powell's presentation went over so hard was because he was held in high esteem since what he had done up until then was serve as a moderating force in that administration.
This is NOT to absolve him of cupability in all the trauma and deaths and pain since that speech. Not at all. It is only to say that he also is capable of positive acts. And endorsing Obama, getting more support for Obama both pre AND post election, that is positive. If he can get more support for Obama after he is elected, it will be more likely that Obama will be able to get more positive stuff done during his term.
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| -Some of us still don't get it. |
smoogatz |
Oct-20-08 10:49 AM |
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There are still thousands of deaths that can't be reconciled. n/t |
Texas Explorer |
Oct-20-08 10:50 AM |
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You can say that about anything. |
skooooo |
Oct-20-08 10:52 AM |
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Not one thing? |
rug |
Oct-20-08 11:11 AM |
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Do you believe that would have stopped mrbush? |
uppityperson |
Oct-20-08 11:12 AM |
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Not by itself. But it would have gone a long way to stiffening resistance. |
rug |
Oct-20-08 11:17 AM |
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No, he would have been called a "disgruntled" former employee.. |
skooooo |
Oct-20-08 11:21 AM |
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Far better to advocate the deaths of thousands than be called disgruntled by Bush. |
rug |
Oct-20-08 11:28 AM |
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I loath Powell for that presentation, he should be ashamed of what he did. I also think |
uppityperson |
Oct-20-08 11:22 AM |
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What is being forgotten here is that Powell's decision to go along, for whatever reasons, |
bertman |
Oct-20-08 01:27 PM |
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I agree.eom |
uppityperson |
Oct-20-08 06:15 PM |
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You're right about Powell |
Art_from_Ark |
Oct-21-08 03:28 AM |
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important points - nt |
pberq |
Oct-21-08 09:37 AM |
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He could have blown the whistle on BushCo and saved lives... eom |
Juniperx |
Oct-20-08 03:52 PM |
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That's true, but he still had control over his OWN choices and actions... |
Solon |
Oct-20-08 03:00 PM |
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Bullshit |
Juniperx |
Oct-20-08 03:52 PM |
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True, and almost everyone in Congress has blood on their hands too |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Oct-20-08 10:03 PM |
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powell could swallow a razor blade for all I care. |
The_Casual_Observer |
Oct-20-08 10:52 AM |
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How liberal of you. |
skooooo |
Oct-20-08 10:52 AM |
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what does that stupid war criminal have to do with "liberal"? |
The_Casual_Observer |
Oct-20-08 10:56 AM |
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swallow a razor blade?? |
skooooo |
Oct-20-08 10:57 AM |
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I don't like? We are talking about a war enabling monster. |
The_Casual_Observer |
Oct-20-08 11:11 AM |
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Powell did not have the power to stop Bush. |
skooooo |
Oct-20-08 11:22 AM |
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He enabled his sorry ass at the UN. It was pivotal. He sold out. |
The_Casual_Observer |
Oct-20-08 11:28 AM |
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I think he believed in what he was saying... |
skooooo |
Oct-20-08 11:30 AM |
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If he believed it, he was a stupid ass war criminal. |
The_Casual_Observer |
Oct-20-08 11:32 AM |
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He admitted that he knew the information was bogus |
Hydra |
Oct-20-08 12:18 PM |
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I didn't know that... |
skooooo |
Oct-20-08 12:20 PM |
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He did admit in a sideways fashion |
Hydra |
Oct-20-08 12:27 PM |
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Well said, Hydra... |
Juniperx |
Oct-20-08 04:00 PM |
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Oh what bullshit |
Juniperx |
Oct-20-08 03:58 PM |
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Good lord you are hyperbolic. |
uppityperson |
Oct-20-08 11:23 AM |
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And you are parabolic. So there. |
The_Casual_Observer |
Oct-20-08 11:26 AM |
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I can appreciate one action and condone another. Does not excuse an action. |
uppityperson |
Oct-20-08 06:24 PM |
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That is fucking bullshit |
Juniperx |
Oct-20-08 03:56 PM |
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His endorsement is demonstrating how racist the right wing truly is |
liberal N proud |
Oct-20-08 10:55 AM |
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Well, the reaction of the right is certainly demonstrating that. |
smoogatz |
Oct-20-08 10:59 AM |
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You mean the n*r supports the n*r line? What total assholery that is. |
uppityperson |
Oct-20-08 11:05 AM |
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His endorsement is bringing out racist in the GOP and media |
liberal N proud |
Oct-20-08 11:07 AM |
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I don't get it... |
stillcool47 |
Oct-20-08 10:57 AM |
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You don't see this affecting the election at all? |
DireStrike |
Oct-20-08 11:00 AM |
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Do I see Colin Powell's endorsement... |
stillcool47 |
Oct-20-08 11:41 AM |
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As much as I abhor the part Colin Powell played in the war |
Laurab |
Oct-20-08 12:03 PM |
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I'm pretty sure I'll never love Powell but I understand that in our electoral |
Phredicles |
Oct-20-08 10:59 AM |
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I agree with what you write but I do get that some people feel otherwise. |
uppityperson |
Oct-20-08 11:03 AM |
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Wow, it is amazing . Covering up Me Lai and promotng the Iraq War by lies |
saracat |
Oct-20-08 11:08 AM |
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i'm shocked! |
KG |
Oct-20-08 11:11 AM |
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Did you listen to what Powell said? |
smoogatz |
Oct-20-08 11:12 AM |
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No cat, not forgiven at all. It is possible for someone to do both bad and good acts. |
uppityperson |
Oct-20-08 11:14 AM |
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Hundreds were massacred at Me Lai and thousands died in the Iraq War |
saracat |
Oct-20-08 11:31 AM |
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hi saracat, haven't seen you around for a long time it seems. |
1awake |
Oct-20-08 03:49 PM |
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Powell will have to do a hell of a lot more before I'll ever trust him as far as I could throw him |
Juniperx |
Oct-20-08 04:03 PM |
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I can condone mightily 1 action by someone, yet also see another act by the same person as being a |
uppityperson |
Oct-20-08 06:22 PM |
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"Condone" doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.. |
Fumesucker |
Oct-20-08 10:14 PM |
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Oh crap, wrong word. You are right. I mean condemn, to speak harshly against and really hate,despise |
uppityperson |
Oct-20-08 10:21 PM |
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I figured you meant "condemn" .. |
Fumesucker |
Oct-20-08 11:13 PM |
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Then I wish people would leave it at that. |
spoony |
Oct-20-08 04:24 PM |
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Me too. I would not say "he's redeemed, a man of honour and integrity, a good guy, just another..." |
uppityperson |
Oct-20-08 06:20 PM |
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I am very glad he did what he did, and it will make a huge difference to some Repub. voters |
gollygee |
Oct-20-08 11:09 AM |
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I'm not a fan, either. |
smoogatz |
Oct-20-08 11:27 AM |
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Short and sweet. My favorite kind of thread |
NNN0LHI |
Oct-20-08 11:12 AM |
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No, we get it. I'm glad he endorsed Obama. I know what it's doing to Republicans. |
Kitsune |
Oct-20-08 11:23 AM |
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So now it is it doesn't matter how you play the (game ) |
blues90 |
Oct-20-08 11:53 AM |
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This is no game. |
smoogatz |
Oct-20-08 12:55 PM |
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Call it tactic's then , it's still a political game |
blues90 |
Oct-20-08 02:47 PM |
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Our country will be needing to be forgiven for |
ClayZ |
Oct-20-08 11:59 AM |
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Well, it's having a similar effect in the Democratic party too |
notalemming |
Oct-20-08 12:08 PM |
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Nah. |
smoogatz |
Oct-20-08 12:52 PM |
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If true, Powell's duty is to take back his party from the extremists. |
baldguy |
Oct-20-08 01:08 PM |
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Yes, your OP proves that some still don't get it. |
spoony |
Oct-20-08 03:34 PM |
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read your own sig line: it's all about November |
RainDog |
Oct-20-08 04:06 PM |
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I don't think my sig says anything about abiding war criminals. |
spoony |
Oct-20-08 04:14 PM |
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yep |
RainDog |
Oct-20-08 04:32 PM |
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Who said any of them will be tried? |
spoony |
Oct-20-08 04:36 PM |
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he just disavowed the McCain campaign |
RainDog |
Oct-20-08 04:39 PM |
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you know it, spoony |
Skittles |
Oct-20-08 10:22 PM |
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exactly. the goal is to totally discredit the talibornagains. that was done. |
RainDog |
Oct-20-08 04:05 PM |
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I'll join you in that applause |
NeedleCast |
Oct-20-08 04:22 PM |
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so Obama gets a war criminal's endorsement...? |
mike_c |
Oct-20-08 05:20 PM |
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I got it. |
GoneOffShore |
Oct-20-08 08:28 PM |
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It's about what I expected. |
smoogatz |
Oct-20-08 10:12 PM |
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Many of us are pragmatic about this, we just don't like people who defend... |
Solon |
Oct-20-08 10:16 PM |
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I make no defense of his pimping of the war. |
smoogatz |
Oct-20-08 10:31 PM |
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True, but I really wish Obama didn't offer him an adviser position... |
Solon |
Oct-20-08 10:34 PM |
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I hope the Republic Party disintegrates. |
Laelth |
Oct-20-08 09:44 PM |
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there are.... |
unkachuck |
Oct-20-08 09:50 PM |
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um....NO - it is YOU who doesn't GET IT |
Skittles |
Oct-20-08 10:22 PM |
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I can hold both opinions |
RainDog |
Oct-20-08 10:36 PM |
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I will go along with that |
Skittles |
Oct-21-08 12:36 AM |
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Yep - listen to AM radio. They are falling apart. |
progressoid |
Oct-20-08 11:24 PM |
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Right you are, smoogatz. nt |
Hekate |
Oct-21-08 03:16 AM |
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Colin Powell sat on the post ... |
Everybody |
Oct-21-08 09:05 AM |
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whether or not Powell redeemed himself... |
Pierre Trudeau |
Oct-21-08 10:50 AM |
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