smoogatz
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Mon Oct-20-08 10:49 AM
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| Some of us still don't get it. |
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Powell just drove a big, fat wedge down the middle of the Republican party. He did what no moderate Republican has done in recent memory: he called out the party's right wing and pretty much called them racist assholes to their faces. He also conflated McCain and his campaign with the party's hard-right nutball faction: a stunning indictment, coming from one of the party's revered elder warrior-statesmen. Say what you will about Powell (and yes, I think he's culpable as hell), but this is a stinging rebuke to the Republican party, and a resounding slap in the face to McCain. For that, I applaud Colin Powell.
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| -Some of us still don't get it. |
smoogatz |
Oct-20-08 10:49 AM |
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There are still thousands of deaths that can't be reconciled. n/t |
Texas Explorer |
Oct-20-08 10:50 AM |
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You can say that about anything. |
skooooo |
Oct-20-08 10:52 AM |
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Not one thing? |
rug |
Oct-20-08 11:11 AM |
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Do you believe that would have stopped mrbush? |
uppityperson |
Oct-20-08 11:12 AM |
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Not by itself. But it would have gone a long way to stiffening resistance. |
rug |
Oct-20-08 11:17 AM |
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No, he would have been called a "disgruntled" former employee.. |
skooooo |
Oct-20-08 11:21 AM |
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Far better to advocate the deaths of thousands than be called disgruntled by Bush. |
rug |
Oct-20-08 11:28 AM |
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I loath Powell for that presentation, he should be ashamed of what he did. I also think |
uppityperson |
Oct-20-08 11:22 AM |
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What is being forgotten here is that Powell's decision to go along, for whatever reasons, |
bertman |
Oct-20-08 01:27 PM |
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I agree.eom |
uppityperson |
Oct-20-08 06:15 PM |
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You're right about Powell |
Art_from_Ark |
Oct-21-08 03:28 AM |
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important points - nt |
pberq |
Oct-21-08 09:37 AM |
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He could have blown the whistle on BushCo and saved lives... eom |
Juniperx |
Oct-20-08 03:52 PM |
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That's true, but he still had control over his OWN choices and actions... |
Solon |
Oct-20-08 03:00 PM |
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Bullshit |
Juniperx |
Oct-20-08 03:52 PM |
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True, and almost everyone in Congress has blood on their hands too |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Oct-20-08 10:03 PM |
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powell could swallow a razor blade for all I care. |
The_Casual_Observer |
Oct-20-08 10:52 AM |
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How liberal of you. |
skooooo |
Oct-20-08 10:52 AM |
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what does that stupid war criminal have to do with "liberal"? |
The_Casual_Observer |
Oct-20-08 10:56 AM |
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swallow a razor blade?? |
skooooo |
Oct-20-08 10:57 AM |
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I don't like? We are talking about a war enabling monster. |
The_Casual_Observer |
Oct-20-08 11:11 AM |
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Powell did not have the power to stop Bush. |
skooooo |
Oct-20-08 11:22 AM |
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He enabled his sorry ass at the UN. It was pivotal. He sold out. |
The_Casual_Observer |
Oct-20-08 11:28 AM |
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I think he believed in what he was saying... |
skooooo |
Oct-20-08 11:30 AM |
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If he believed it, he was a stupid ass war criminal. |
The_Casual_Observer |
Oct-20-08 11:32 AM |
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He admitted that he knew the information was bogus |
Hydra |
Oct-20-08 12:18 PM |
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I didn't know that... |
skooooo |
Oct-20-08 12:20 PM |
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He did admit in a sideways fashion |
Hydra |
Oct-20-08 12:27 PM |
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Well said, Hydra... |
Juniperx |
Oct-20-08 04:00 PM |
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Oh what bullshit |
Juniperx |
Oct-20-08 03:58 PM |
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Good lord you are hyperbolic. |
uppityperson |
Oct-20-08 11:23 AM |
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And you are parabolic. So there. |
The_Casual_Observer |
Oct-20-08 11:26 AM |
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I can appreciate one action and condone another. Does not excuse an action. |
uppityperson |
Oct-20-08 06:24 PM |
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That is fucking bullshit |
Juniperx |
Oct-20-08 03:56 PM |
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His endorsement is demonstrating how racist the right wing truly is |
liberal N proud |
Oct-20-08 10:55 AM |
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Well, the reaction of the right is certainly demonstrating that. |
smoogatz |
Oct-20-08 10:59 AM |
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You mean the n*r supports the n*r line? What total assholery that is. |
uppityperson |
Oct-20-08 11:05 AM |
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His endorsement is bringing out racist in the GOP and media |
liberal N proud |
Oct-20-08 11:07 AM |
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I don't get it... |
stillcool47 |
Oct-20-08 10:57 AM |
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You don't see this affecting the election at all? |
DireStrike |
Oct-20-08 11:00 AM |
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Do I see Colin Powell's endorsement... |
stillcool47 |
Oct-20-08 11:41 AM |
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As much as I abhor the part Colin Powell played in the war |
Laurab |
Oct-20-08 12:03 PM |
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I'm pretty sure I'll never love Powell but I understand that in our electoral |
Phredicles |
Oct-20-08 10:59 AM |
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I agree with what you write but I do get that some people feel otherwise. |
uppityperson |
Oct-20-08 11:03 AM |
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Wow, it is amazing . Covering up Me Lai and promotng the Iraq War by lies |
saracat |
Oct-20-08 11:08 AM |
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i'm shocked! |
KG |
Oct-20-08 11:11 AM |
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Did you listen to what Powell said? |
smoogatz |
Oct-20-08 11:12 AM |
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No cat, not forgiven at all. It is possible for someone to do both bad and good acts. |
uppityperson |
Oct-20-08 11:14 AM |
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Hundreds were massacred at Me Lai and thousands died in the Iraq War |
saracat |
Oct-20-08 11:31 AM |
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hi saracat, haven't seen you around for a long time it seems. |
1awake |
Oct-20-08 03:49 PM |
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Powell will have to do a hell of a lot more before I'll ever trust him as far as I could throw him |
Juniperx |
Oct-20-08 04:03 PM |
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I can condone mightily 1 action by someone, yet also see another act by the same person as being a |
uppityperson |
Oct-20-08 06:22 PM |
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"Condone" doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.. |
Fumesucker |
Oct-20-08 10:14 PM |
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Oh crap, wrong word. You are right. I mean condemn, to speak harshly against and really hate,despise |
uppityperson |
Oct-20-08 10:21 PM |
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I figured you meant "condemn" .. |
Fumesucker |
Oct-20-08 11:13 PM |
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Then I wish people would leave it at that. |
spoony |
Oct-20-08 04:24 PM |
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Me too. I would not say "he's redeemed, a man of honour and integrity, a good guy, just another..." |
uppityperson |
Oct-20-08 06:20 PM |
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I am very glad he did what he did, and it will make a huge difference to some Repub. voters |
gollygee |
Oct-20-08 11:09 AM |
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I'm not a fan, either. |
smoogatz |
Oct-20-08 11:27 AM |
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Short and sweet. My favorite kind of thread |
NNN0LHI |
Oct-20-08 11:12 AM |
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No, we get it. I'm glad he endorsed Obama. I know what it's doing to Republicans. |
Kitsune |
Oct-20-08 11:23 AM |
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So now it is it doesn't matter how you play the (game ) |
blues90 |
Oct-20-08 11:53 AM |
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This is no game. |
smoogatz |
Oct-20-08 12:55 PM |
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Call it tactic's then , it's still a political game |
blues90 |
Oct-20-08 02:47 PM |
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Our country will be needing to be forgiven for |
ClayZ |
Oct-20-08 11:59 AM |
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Well, it's having a similar effect in the Democratic party too |
notalemming |
Oct-20-08 12:08 PM |
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Nah. |
smoogatz |
Oct-20-08 12:52 PM |
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If true, Powell's duty is to take back his party from the extremists. |
baldguy |
Oct-20-08 01:08 PM |
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Yes, your OP proves that some still don't get it. |
spoony |
Oct-20-08 03:34 PM |
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read your own sig line: it's all about November |
RainDog |
Oct-20-08 04:06 PM |
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I don't think my sig says anything about abiding war criminals. |
spoony |
Oct-20-08 04:14 PM |
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yep |
RainDog |
Oct-20-08 04:32 PM |
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Who said any of them will be tried? |
spoony |
Oct-20-08 04:36 PM |
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he just disavowed the McCain campaign |
RainDog |
Oct-20-08 04:39 PM |
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you know it, spoony |
Skittles |
Oct-20-08 10:22 PM |
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exactly. the goal is to totally discredit the talibornagains. that was done. |
RainDog |
Oct-20-08 04:05 PM |
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I'll join you in that applause |
NeedleCast |
Oct-20-08 04:22 PM |
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so Obama gets a war criminal's endorsement...? |
mike_c |
Oct-20-08 05:20 PM |
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I got it. |
GoneOffShore |
Oct-20-08 08:28 PM |
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It's about what I expected. |
smoogatz |
Oct-20-08 10:12 PM |
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Many of us are pragmatic about this, we just don't like people who defend... |
Solon |
Oct-20-08 10:16 PM |
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I make no defense of his pimping of the war. |
smoogatz |
Oct-20-08 10:31 PM |
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True, but I really wish Obama didn't offer him an adviser position... |
Solon |
Oct-20-08 10:34 PM |
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I hope the Republic Party disintegrates. |
Laelth |
Oct-20-08 09:44 PM |
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there are.... |
unkachuck |
Oct-20-08 09:50 PM |
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um....NO - it is YOU who doesn't GET IT |
Skittles |
Oct-20-08 10:22 PM |
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I can hold both opinions |
RainDog |
Oct-20-08 10:36 PM |
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I will go along with that |
Skittles |
Oct-21-08 12:36 AM |
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Yep - listen to AM radio. They are falling apart. |
progressoid |
Oct-20-08 11:24 PM |
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Right you are, smoogatz. nt |
Hekate |
Oct-21-08 03:16 AM |
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Colin Powell sat on the post ... |
Everybody |
Oct-21-08 09:05 AM |
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whether or not Powell redeemed himself... |
Pierre Trudeau |
Oct-21-08 10:50 AM |
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