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77. Goodie...you think president Pat Robertson would be any more tolerant to moslems or gays?
Theocracies blow...that's why we have to make sure we don't let the christian conservanazi campaign seize power here like they have been trying to do since the Reagan years.
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  -Hanged for being a Christian in Iran Psephos  Oct-12-08 10:48 PM   #0 
  - Mistranslation! Agitprop!  rockymountaindem   Oct-12-08 10:50 PM   #1 
  - Yup!  Behind the Aegis   Oct-13-08 12:28 AM   #16 
     - Just because that's usually where it always ends up with the fucking U.S.  tjwash   Oct-13-08 01:01 PM   #88 
        - So you have something to disprove the article?  Behind the Aegis   Oct-13-08 01:10 PM   #90 
           - telegraph.co.uk? Are you fucking serious? That's like linking to "little green footballs"  tjwash   Oct-13-08 02:21 PM   #93 
           - BWAHAHA!  Behind the Aegis   Oct-13-08 02:40 PM   #97 
              - "you and other posters like you", "So fucking predictable."  tjwash   Oct-13-08 02:58 PM   #100 
                 - More pathetic ad hominems.  Behind the Aegis   Oct-13-08 03:04 PM   #102 
                 - Some people have been predicting the invasion of Iran since early 2004. It's an annual event quoting  ohio2007   Oct-13-08 08:02 PM   #139 
           - So you do support bombing and murdering millions of innocents based on this?  The Stranger   Oct-13-08 06:09 PM   #123 
           - I do. However...  Rage for Order   Oct-13-08 08:37 PM   #140 
           - Didn't think I had asked you.  The Stranger   Oct-14-08 09:30 AM   #176 
           - So you do support the death penalty for changing one's religion?  Behind the Aegis   Oct-14-08 12:53 AM   #167 
              - The implication from your response is that you would support war murdering millions based on this.  The Stranger   Oct-14-08 09:29 AM   #175 
                 - The implication from your question and response is that you support...  Behind the Aegis   Oct-14-08 12:16 PM   #187 
                    - Then duly note this:  The Stranger   Oct-14-08 01:21 PM   #188 
                       - Then, you too, should duly note:  Behind the Aegis   Oct-14-08 01:37 PM   #190 
                          - Except given that the world is already locked in an ideologically based war driven by this fallacy,  The Stranger   Oct-14-08 05:49 PM   #191 
                             - You have done nothing of the sort.  Behind the Aegis   Oct-14-08 08:44 PM   #192 
           - How about my uncle in Tehran...  LooseWilly   Oct-13-08 10:21 PM   #152 
           - And this has what to do with the veracity of the claims of the article?  Behind the Aegis   Oct-14-08 12:52 AM   #166 
           - I guess I don't see the point to it myself  JPettus   Oct-13-08 10:56 PM   #160 
              - Cheers, I say.  LooseWilly   Oct-13-08 11:35 PM   #165 
              - Where does this article say anything about the US trying to "fix the culture?"  Behind the Aegis   Oct-14-08 12:57 AM   #168 
                 - I'm not sure it's a valid analogy  JPettus   Oct-14-08 09:00 AM   #173 
  - Sure do hope Sarah doesn't see this.  dgibby   Oct-12-08 10:50 PM   #2 
  - "who leaves his Islamic faith"  Boojatta   Oct-12-08 10:54 PM   #3 
  - Yes , according the those cavemen  UndertheOcean   Oct-13-08 08:47 AM   #53 
     - Uhh, which Cavemen?  LooseWilly   Oct-13-08 10:27 PM   #155 
  - I'm not touching this post with a 10 foot pole  tularetom   Oct-12-08 10:55 PM   #4 
  - How about an 11-foot Romanian?  krispos42   Oct-13-08 01:48 AM   #21 
     - Lol.  ronnie624   Oct-13-08 02:14 AM   #22 
        - Did you do a facepalm?  krispos42   Oct-13-08 02:28 AM   #23 
  - wow  iandhr   Oct-12-08 11:04 PM   #5 
  - What does this mean ?  Trajan   Oct-13-08 12:08 AM   #9 
  - Delete  Trajan   Oct-13-08 12:13 AM   #10 
     - How do you feel about resettlements, illegal and otherwise, or shoot-to-kill policies  jrockford   Oct-13-08 12:15 AM   #13 
        - Very good points.  ronnie624   Oct-13-08 01:26 AM   #19 
        - How do you feel about this story?  leftynyc   Oct-13-08 07:33 AM   #32 
           - Hardly consider it changing the subject as it has deep relevance.  jrockford   Oct-13-08 07:51 AM   #38 
              - wow! Post of the year here!  leftchick   Oct-13-08 08:01 AM   #44 
              - You going off about bias?!!  leftynyc   Oct-13-08 08:11 AM   #45 
              - You have it backwards  Phx_Dem   Oct-13-08 09:42 AM   #65 
              - "Israel has quite a vested interest" - ah, yes, we've heard this refrain before. Blame the Jews.  apocalypsehow   Oct-13-08 10:02 PM   #149 
  - What, all Iranians? How very racist of you.  Zhade   Oct-13-08 12:15 AM   #14 
  - Said it before, I'll say it again  rpannier   Oct-12-08 11:31 PM   #6 
  - If you readily belive this, you're part of the problem.  jrockford   Oct-13-08 12:13 AM   #11 
  - What do you disagree with about that statement?  Zevon fan   Oct-13-08 02:27 PM   #94 
     - Yes, he does. Or pretends to. There is a blind spot on the Left to this stuff, sadly.  apocalypsehow   Oct-13-08 10:24 PM   #154 
  - That whack job talking point just won't die will it?  India3   Oct-13-08 02:41 PM   #98 
  - I just googled the reporter. Don't know what to think.  Dr.Phool   Oct-12-08 11:46 PM   #7 
  - Like most conservative political writers,  ronnie624   Oct-13-08 11:53 AM   #72 
  - Just Wait!  cyr330   Oct-12-08 11:57 PM   #8 
  - I am no fan of Theocracy ....  Trajan   Oct-13-08 12:14 AM   #12 
  - Yes, it's time for our "illustrious" press in the USA to chime in and whip up  ShortnFiery   Oct-13-08 12:18 AM   #15 
  - Long tradition in Islam, but tied more is with our concept of Treason  happyslug   Oct-13-08 12:31 AM   #17 
  - So the the republic of states use cheap public media  kokono   Oct-13-08 01:41 AM   #20 
  - I pointed out some history, which shows WHEN true separation of Church and state occurred.  happyslug   Oct-13-08 02:32 AM   #24 
  - That is some messed up history, there.  Waiting For Everyman   Oct-13-08 03:06 AM   #25 
  - In 1700 Mass. and NY passed laws ordering all Catholic priest to leave under penalty of death  Douglas Carpenter   Oct-13-08 07:37 AM   #33 
  - Yes and all constitutional under the First Amendment.  happyslug   Oct-13-08 02:43 PM   #99 
     - I think you're referring to the personal freedom of religion guaranteed by the First Amendment  14thColony   Oct-13-08 07:35 PM   #132 
        - The oath applies to both State and Federal Positions, but the religious test is different  happyslug   Oct-13-08 10:09 PM   #150 
  - All proclamations prior to about 1860 went through churches  happyslug   Oct-13-08 02:30 PM   #96 
  - I don't know where you get this idea.  Waiting For Everyman   Oct-13-08 07:01 PM   #129 
     - I did NOT say the Church were one, but that the church were used.  happyslug   Oct-13-08 10:44 PM   #158 
  - Religious tolerance among Christian sects  treestar   Oct-13-08 04:17 PM   #109 
     - Time to point out one of the great ironies of US history  14thColony   Oct-13-08 07:45 PM   #135 
        - And how we got there.  happyslug   Oct-13-08 11:18 PM   #163 
  - Tradition, but vile and reprehensible.  igil   Oct-13-08 12:37 PM   #80 
     - Understanding is NOT agreement  happyslug   Oct-13-08 02:59 PM   #101 
  - Iran is a theocracy. People don't get to "vote out" extremism.  readmoreoften   Oct-13-08 01:12 AM   #18 
  - Have you lived there? In the 70s? Recently? No...didn't think so.  jrockford   Oct-13-08 07:54 AM   #39 
     - In fact, NPR last week was stating that our allies over there,  jrockford   Oct-13-08 07:55 AM   #40 
     - I've heard people who've been there to say that the younger  treestar   Oct-13-08 04:27 PM   #111 
     - Yeah, shows what you know. Jump to conclusions much?  readmoreoften   Oct-13-08 12:36 PM   #79 
     - I'm not sure you quite grasped my post.  readmoreoften   Oct-13-08 12:38 PM   #81 
  - Wow - uttterly disgusting...  TankLV   Oct-13-08 03:25 AM   #26 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-13-08 07:57 AM   #41 
     - Quit spamming this thread with your anti-Israel bullshit!  spoony   Oct-13-08 07:59 AM   #42 
  - The headline is misleading, probably in pursuit of something 'eye catching'  14thColony   Oct-13-08 05:17 AM   #27 
  - Oh...  Dorian Gray   Oct-13-08 07:44 AM   #37 
  - If it happened, then no it isn't ok. Any other sources to back this up  jrockford   Oct-13-08 07:59 AM   #43 
  - I was being sarcastic.  Dorian Gray   Oct-13-08 03:19 PM   #104 
  - I thought I had a couple other sources...  Rage for Order   Oct-13-08 08:47 PM   #143 
  - Bull-fucking-Shit. If another "source" - or TEN other sources - were posted, your reply would be:  apocalypsehow   Oct-13-08 10:32 PM   #157 
  - You consider it OK that he was hanged for converting?  14thColony   Oct-13-08 08:24 AM   #51 
     - sarcasm  LSK   Oct-13-08 12:56 PM   #86 
     - No, I got it  14thColony   Oct-13-08 02:12 PM   #92 
     - Sarcasm  Dorian Gray   Oct-13-08 03:19 PM   #105 
        - Two 'sarcasm' replies? It's like deja vu all over again!  14thColony   Oct-13-08 04:15 PM   #108 
           - Just want to make sure  Dorian Gray   Oct-13-08 06:55 PM   #128 
              - Crazy we even have to discuss this, huh?  14thColony   Oct-13-08 07:11 PM   #130 
  - "Hanged for BECOMING a Christian" would be more accurate.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Oct-13-08 03:07 PM   #103 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-13-08 06:12 AM   #28 
  - Terrible ideal  pnutbutr   Oct-13-08 06:43 AM   #29 
  - I think Blarch'point is that you can also find passages recommending death for apostasy in the Bible  LeftishBrit   Oct-13-08 07:06 AM   #30 
     - I don't think  pnutbutr   Oct-13-08 07:17 AM   #31 
  - Which Christian wrote Deuteronomy again?  spoony   Oct-13-08 07:41 AM   #35 
     - So the old testament is not a consideration  Goblinmonger   Oct-13-08 12:04 PM   #73 
        - Did you see the post I was replying to?  spoony   Oct-14-08 09:35 AM   #177 
  - Anyone think Sarah Palin's church would be any better?  Fumesucker   Oct-13-08 07:39 AM   #34 
  - FFS...  spoony   Oct-13-08 07:44 AM   #36 
  - But my question remains..  Fumesucker   Oct-13-08 08:16 AM   #46 
     - The question is almost impossibly stupid  spoony   Oct-13-08 08:18 AM   #47 
        - Any religion that has absolute power...  Fumesucker   Oct-13-08 09:08 AM   #56 
  - Yes, me. Much, much better  Donald Ian Rankin   Oct-13-08 09:28 AM   #62 
  - Give them absolute power and see what happens..  Fumesucker   Oct-13-08 09:37 AM   #64 
  - Fred Phelps? n/t  Goblinmonger   Oct-13-08 12:05 PM   #74 
     - Hard to tell.  Donald Ian Rankin   Oct-13-08 06:04 PM   #122 
  - But the crucial point is that they *don't* have absolute power.  LeftishBrit   Oct-13-08 09:57 AM   #68 
  - OK....  Fumesucker   Oct-13-08 10:07 AM   #70 
     - There's a difference between being a theocracy, and practicing religious discrimination  LeftishBrit   Oct-13-08 01:37 PM   #91 
        - When all political power is held by theists..  Fumesucker   Oct-13-08 05:02 PM   #114 
  - Thats disgusting  Lifetimedem   Oct-13-08 05:58 PM   #121 
     - So you think a Christian theocracy would be all sweetness and light?  Fumesucker   Oct-13-08 07:44 PM   #134 
  - Gassed for being Muslim in America  MPK   Oct-13-08 08:19 AM   #48 
  - No, it's "moral relativism and denial in action" day.  spoony   Oct-13-08 08:22 AM   #49 
  - And I'm sure you're offended that black people vote for Obama  LooseWilly   Oct-13-08 10:59 PM   #161 
     - Apparently you've never seen  spoony   Oct-14-08 09:39 AM   #178 
  - That was a criminal act  rockymountaindem   Oct-13-08 09:15 AM   #59 
     - I'm sure the Muslims in the story I posted will be happy to know that. n/t  MPK   Oct-13-08 09:25 AM   #60 
     - I'm sure they will  rockymountaindem   Oct-13-08 09:32 AM   #63 
        - I haven't heard of any arrests in that case that I posted.  MPK   Oct-13-08 09:43 AM   #66 
     - Hmm?, blinders much?  LooseWilly   Oct-13-08 11:22 PM   #164 
  - Barbaric  UndertheOcean   Oct-13-08 08:23 AM   #50 
  - also here  UndertheOcean   Oct-13-08 08:44 AM   #52 
  - This is why our founding fathers...  Liberalatus   Oct-13-08 08:49 AM   #54 
  - But, hey, everyone knows Islamic extremists are no worse than the Republicans...  Donald Ian Rankin   Oct-13-08 08:50 AM   #55 
  - I totally agree  UndertheOcean   Oct-13-08 09:12 AM   #57 
  - How many dead Christians on 9/11/2001?  Fumesucker   Oct-13-08 09:13 AM   #58 
  - You can't seriously be using the death toll in Iraq as evidence to defend Muslim extremism?  Donald Ian Rankin   Oct-13-08 09:26 AM   #61 
     - I wasn't defending anyone at all...  Fumesucker   Oct-13-08 09:46 AM   #67 
        - Events put in motion by Christian Americans....  MellowDem   Oct-13-08 08:48 PM   #144 
           - The one who made the decision is a Christian..  Fumesucker   Oct-13-08 10:20 PM   #151 
              - Weak  MellowDem   Oct-14-08 09:30 PM   #193 
  - Nice jingo...the Savage Mules are sharpening their fucking hooves I see.  tjwash   Oct-13-08 12:35 PM   #78 
  - Why not just talk to yourself?  Donald Ian Rankin   Oct-13-08 06:09 PM   #124 
  - They are in very different situations, though  treestar   Oct-13-08 04:24 PM   #110 
  - I think that not executing apostates is inherently superior to executing apostates.  Donald Ian Rankin   Oct-13-08 06:15 PM   #126 
  - Self Delete - Posted Wrong Spot  Junkdrawer   Oct-13-08 05:04 PM   #115 
  - Theocracies suck...  SidDithers   Oct-13-08 10:01 AM   #69 
  - Yet Iran still has a (relatively speaking) significant Jewish community...  bullwinkle428   Oct-13-08 10:12 AM   #71 
  - The largest Jewish population in the Middle East outside Israel.  readmoreoften   Oct-13-08 12:43 PM   #83 
     - Closer to 3000 years  14thColony   Oct-13-08 02:27 PM   #95 
  - Their country, their rules.  Jed Dilligan   Oct-13-08 12:08 PM   #75 
  - Human rights do not stop at the lines drawn on maps  Psephos   Oct-13-08 12:24 PM   #76 
  - Nice dream, but it will never happen.  Jed Dilligan   Oct-13-08 12:49 PM   #85 
  - Flowery rhetorical flourishes  ronnie624   Oct-13-08 12:58 PM   #87 
     - I am not a superpower, don't support a lot of US policy, and will not yield to "practical" cynicism  Psephos   Oct-13-08 04:06 PM   #107 
  - Sophistry. n/t  Raskolnik   Oct-13-08 04:38 PM   #112 
     - How is my argument deceiving or confusing?  Jed Dilligan   Oct-13-08 05:55 PM   #118 
  - Goodie...you think president Pat Robertson would be any more tolerant to moslems or gays?  tjwash   Oct-13-08 12:30 PM   #77 
  - awful  I LUV DEM   Oct-13-08 12:41 PM   #82 
  - Let's bomb them! Muslims, Christians, ALL OF THEM!  baby_mouse   Oct-13-08 12:47 PM   #84 
  - This what happens when you allow a theocracy to exist  Neo   Oct-13-08 01:01 PM   #89 
  - A million Iraqis killed by Christians because they were born on top of oil  NNN0LHI   Oct-13-08 03:27 PM   #106 
  - Really?  MellowDem   Oct-13-08 08:53 PM   #146 
  - A million Iraqis were not killed *by Christians*  LeftishBrit   Oct-14-08 06:18 AM   #169 
     - So you are saying that if another country invaded America or Britain with Shock and Awe ...  NNN0LHI   Oct-14-08 07:15 AM   #170 
        - I didn't say that at all!!!  LeftishBrit   Oct-14-08 07:30 AM   #171 
  - Religion is such a comfort n/t  Canuckistanian   Oct-13-08 04:50 PM   #113 
  - Awful law, but the last hung was in 1990....  Junkdrawer   Oct-13-08 05:07 PM   #116 
  - Especially coming from the Daily Telegraph...  14thColony   Oct-13-08 07:58 PM   #138 
  - Can you imagine someone who only spoke and read Farsi trying to understand our politics?  lelgt60   Oct-13-08 05:40 PM   #117 
  - Well, guess first, you have to have an understanding of why people move...  Gwendolyn   Oct-13-08 06:15 PM   #127 
  - They kill gays, too. n/t  cynatnite   Oct-13-08 05:56 PM   #119 
  - Maybe we shouldn't have toppled Mosadeq in 1953  dailykoff   Oct-13-08 05:57 PM   #120 
  - Yeah, this guy should have thought about that before he...  Zevon fan   Oct-13-08 07:38 PM   #133 
  - Wow  MellowDem   Oct-13-08 08:45 PM   #141 
     - Muslims had nothing to do with what happened on 911.  dailykoff   Oct-13-08 08:49 PM   #145 
        - Christians had nothing to do with Iraq  MellowDem   Oct-13-08 09:11 PM   #147 
           - Some Christians did.  LeftishBrit   Oct-14-08 07:33 AM   #172 
              - True enough  MellowDem   Oct-14-08 09:33 PM   #194 
  - A pox on all extremist religions, fundamentalist Christianity included.  Oregonian   Oct-13-08 06:10 PM   #125 
  - The consensus of Islamic legal scholars is that apostates must be killed.  northernsoul   Oct-13-08 07:28 PM   #131 
  - death to the Xian fundies....death to the Homosexuals...death to the 'spies'  ohio2007   Oct-13-08 07:55 PM   #136 
  - It's kind of like when a gang member gets killed  Jed Dilligan   Oct-13-08 07:55 PM   #137 
     - But in this case the "gang member" was "signed up" at birth..  Fumesucker   Oct-13-08 08:47 PM   #142 
        - You think people aren't signed up into gangs at birth?  Jed Dilligan   Oct-13-08 09:23 PM   #148 
           - If you have evidence that people are indeed signed up for gangs at birth..  Fumesucker   Oct-13-08 10:22 PM   #153 
              - Common knowledge, a lot of gangs are in their 3rd or 4th generation.  Jed Dilligan   Oct-13-08 10:30 PM   #156 
                 - So you don't have evidence..  Fumesucker   Oct-13-08 10:50 PM   #159 
                    - No, I don't have time.  Jed Dilligan   Oct-13-08 11:04 PM   #162 
                       - Gangs could easily be decimated overnight....  Fumesucker   Oct-14-08 09:10 AM   #174 
                          - I agree with that. I don't agree that our country has ANY business  Jed Dilligan   Oct-14-08 01:21 PM   #189 
  - What a remarkable thread.  spoony   Oct-14-08 09:53 AM   #179 
  - Maybe the reason there are not so many condemnations about this is because ...  NNN0LHI   Oct-14-08 10:17 AM   #181 
  - Do you also doubt they hang gay teens?  spoony   Oct-14-08 10:20 AM   #182 
     - Did you believe Saddam was grinding up people in huge shredders too?  NNN0LHI   Oct-14-08 10:27 AM   #184 
        - I believe he was a killer. That, like this, deserves condemnation  spoony   Oct-14-08 10:34 AM   #185 
  - There is a huge "condemnation overload" on Iran these days..  Fumesucker   Oct-14-08 10:24 AM   #183 
  - perhaps a better source is in order  Skittles   Oct-14-08 10:44 PM   #195 
  - Beheaded for being a witch in Saudi Arabia  loindelrio   Oct-14-08 10:09 AM   #180 
     - really?  Gwendolyn   Oct-14-08 10:47 AM   #186 
 

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