|
And, the "what about "over there" crap, though it has nothing to do with what is being proposed. If you find this to be intolerable, you must be for bombing Iran.
|
| -Hanged for being a Christian in Iran |
Psephos |
Oct-12-08 10:48 PM |
#0 |
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Mistranslation! Agitprop! |
rockymountaindem |
Oct-12-08 10:50 PM |
#1 |
  -
Yup! |
Behind the Aegis |
Oct-13-08 12:28 AM |
#16 |
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Just because that's usually where it always ends up with the fucking U.S. |
tjwash |
Oct-13-08 01:01 PM |
#88 |
| -
So you have something to disprove the article? |
Behind the Aegis |
Oct-13-08 01:10 PM |
#90 |
| -
telegraph.co.uk? Are you fucking serious? That's like linking to "little green footballs" |
tjwash |
Oct-13-08 02:21 PM |
#93 |
| -
BWAHAHA! |
Behind the Aegis |
Oct-13-08 02:40 PM |
#97 |
| -
"you and other posters like you", "So fucking predictable." |
tjwash |
Oct-13-08 02:58 PM |
#100 |
| -
More pathetic ad hominems. |
Behind the Aegis |
Oct-13-08 03:04 PM |
#102 |
| -
Some people have been predicting the invasion of Iran since early 2004. It's an annual event quoting |
ohio2007 |
Oct-13-08 08:02 PM |
#139 |
| -
So you do support bombing and murdering millions of innocents based on this? |
The Stranger |
Oct-13-08 06:09 PM |
#123 |
| -
I do. However... |
Rage for Order |
Oct-13-08 08:37 PM |
#140 |
| -
Didn't think I had asked you. |
The Stranger |
Oct-14-08 09:30 AM |
#176 |
| -
So you do support the death penalty for changing one's religion? |
Behind the Aegis |
Oct-14-08 12:53 AM |
#167 |
| -
The implication from your response is that you would support war murdering millions based on this. |
The Stranger |
Oct-14-08 09:29 AM |
#175 |
| -
The implication from your question and response is that you support... |
Behind the Aegis |
Oct-14-08 12:16 PM |
#187 |
| -
Then duly note this: |
The Stranger |
Oct-14-08 01:21 PM |
#188 |
| -
Then, you too, should duly note: |
Behind the Aegis |
Oct-14-08 01:37 PM |
#190 |
| -
Except given that the world is already locked in an ideologically based war driven by this fallacy, |
The Stranger |
Oct-14-08 05:49 PM |
#191 |
| -
You have done nothing of the sort. |
Behind the Aegis |
Oct-14-08 08:44 PM |
#192 |
| -
How about my uncle in Tehran... |
LooseWilly |
Oct-13-08 10:21 PM |
#152 |
| -
And this has what to do with the veracity of the claims of the article? |
Behind the Aegis |
Oct-14-08 12:52 AM |
#166 |
| -
I guess I don't see the point to it myself |
JPettus |
Oct-13-08 10:56 PM |
#160 |
| -
Cheers, I say. |
LooseWilly |
Oct-13-08 11:35 PM |
#165 |
| -
Where does this article say anything about the US trying to "fix the culture?" |
Behind the Aegis |
Oct-14-08 12:57 AM |
#168 |
| -
I'm not sure it's a valid analogy |
JPettus |
Oct-14-08 09:00 AM |
#173 |
| -
Sure do hope Sarah doesn't see this. |
dgibby |
Oct-12-08 10:50 PM |
#2 |
| -
"who leaves his Islamic faith" |
Boojatta |
Oct-12-08 10:54 PM |
#3 |
| -
Yes , according the those cavemen |
UndertheOcean |
Oct-13-08 08:47 AM |
#53 |
| -
Uhh, which Cavemen? |
LooseWilly |
Oct-13-08 10:27 PM |
#155 |
| -
I'm not touching this post with a 10 foot pole |
tularetom |
Oct-12-08 10:55 PM |
#4 |
| -
How about an 11-foot Romanian? |
krispos42 |
Oct-13-08 01:48 AM |
#21 |
| -
Lol. |
ronnie624 |
Oct-13-08 02:14 AM |
#22 |
| -
Did you do a facepalm? |
krispos42 |
Oct-13-08 02:28 AM |
#23 |
| -
wow |
iandhr |
Oct-12-08 11:04 PM |
#5 |
| -
What does this mean ? |
Trajan |
Oct-13-08 12:08 AM |
#9 |
| -
Delete |
Trajan |
Oct-13-08 12:13 AM |
#10 |
| -
How do you feel about resettlements, illegal and otherwise, or shoot-to-kill policies |
jrockford |
Oct-13-08 12:15 AM |
#13 |
| -
Very good points. |
ronnie624 |
Oct-13-08 01:26 AM |
#19 |
| -
How do you feel about this story? |
leftynyc |
Oct-13-08 07:33 AM |
#32 |
| -
Hardly consider it changing the subject as it has deep relevance. |
jrockford |
Oct-13-08 07:51 AM |
#38 |
| -
wow! Post of the year here! |
leftchick |
Oct-13-08 08:01 AM |
#44 |
| -
You going off about bias?!! |
leftynyc |
Oct-13-08 08:11 AM |
#45 |
| -
You have it backwards |
Phx_Dem |
Oct-13-08 09:42 AM |
#65 |
| -
"Israel has quite a vested interest" - ah, yes, we've heard this refrain before. Blame the Jews. |
apocalypsehow |
Oct-13-08 10:02 PM |
#149 |
| -
What, all Iranians? How very racist of you. |
Zhade |
Oct-13-08 12:15 AM |
#14 |
| -
Said it before, I'll say it again |
rpannier |
Oct-12-08 11:31 PM |
#6 |
| -
If you readily belive this, you're part of the problem. |
jrockford |
Oct-13-08 12:13 AM |
#11 |
| -
What do you disagree with about that statement? |
Zevon fan |
Oct-13-08 02:27 PM |
#94 |
| -
Yes, he does. Or pretends to. There is a blind spot on the Left to this stuff, sadly. |
apocalypsehow |
Oct-13-08 10:24 PM |
#154 |
| -
That whack job talking point just won't die will it? |
India3 |
Oct-13-08 02:41 PM |
#98 |
| -
I just googled the reporter. Don't know what to think. |
Dr.Phool |
Oct-12-08 11:46 PM |
#7 |
| -
Like most conservative political writers, |
ronnie624 |
Oct-13-08 11:53 AM |
#72 |
| -
Just Wait! |
cyr330 |
Oct-12-08 11:57 PM |
#8 |
| -
I am no fan of Theocracy .... |
Trajan |
Oct-13-08 12:14 AM |
#12 |
| -
Yes, it's time for our "illustrious" press in the USA to chime in and whip up |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-13-08 12:18 AM |
#15 |
| -
Long tradition in Islam, but tied more is with our concept of Treason |
happyslug |
Oct-13-08 12:31 AM |
#17 |
| -
So the the republic of states use cheap public media |
kokono |
Oct-13-08 01:41 AM |
#20 |
| -
I pointed out some history, which shows WHEN true separation of Church and state occurred. |
happyslug |
Oct-13-08 02:32 AM |
#24 |
| -
That is some messed up history, there. |
Waiting For Everyman |
Oct-13-08 03:06 AM |
#25 |
| -
In 1700 Mass. and NY passed laws ordering all Catholic priest to leave under penalty of death |
Douglas Carpenter |
Oct-13-08 07:37 AM |
#33 |
| -
Yes and all constitutional under the First Amendment. |
happyslug |
Oct-13-08 02:43 PM |
#99 |
| -
I think you're referring to the personal freedom of religion guaranteed by the First Amendment |
14thColony |
Oct-13-08 07:35 PM |
#132 |
| -
The oath applies to both State and Federal Positions, but the religious test is different |
happyslug |
Oct-13-08 10:09 PM |
#150 |
| -
All proclamations prior to about 1860 went through churches |
happyslug |
Oct-13-08 02:30 PM |
#96 |
| -
I don't know where you get this idea. |
Waiting For Everyman |
Oct-13-08 07:01 PM |
#129 |
| -
I did NOT say the Church were one, but that the church were used. |
happyslug |
Oct-13-08 10:44 PM |
#158 |
| -
Religious tolerance among Christian sects |
treestar |
Oct-13-08 04:17 PM |
#109 |
| -
Time to point out one of the great ironies of US history |
14thColony |
Oct-13-08 07:45 PM |
#135 |
| -
And how we got there. |
happyslug |
Oct-13-08 11:18 PM |
#163 |
| -
Tradition, but vile and reprehensible. |
igil |
Oct-13-08 12:37 PM |
#80 |
| -
Understanding is NOT agreement |
happyslug |
Oct-13-08 02:59 PM |
#101 |
| -
Iran is a theocracy. People don't get to "vote out" extremism. |
readmoreoften |
Oct-13-08 01:12 AM |
#18 |
| -
Have you lived there? In the 70s? Recently? No...didn't think so. |
jrockford |
Oct-13-08 07:54 AM |
#39 |
| -
In fact, NPR last week was stating that our allies over there, |
jrockford |
Oct-13-08 07:55 AM |
#40 |
| -
I've heard people who've been there to say that the younger |
treestar |
Oct-13-08 04:27 PM |
#111 |
| -
Yeah, shows what you know. Jump to conclusions much? |
readmoreoften |
Oct-13-08 12:36 PM |
#79 |
| -
I'm not sure you quite grasped my post. |
readmoreoften |
Oct-13-08 12:38 PM |
#81 |
| -
Wow - uttterly disgusting... |
TankLV |
Oct-13-08 03:25 AM |
#26 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-13-08 07:57 AM |
#41 |
| -
Quit spamming this thread with your anti-Israel bullshit! |
spoony |
Oct-13-08 07:59 AM |
#42 |
| -
The headline is misleading, probably in pursuit of something 'eye catching' |
14thColony |
Oct-13-08 05:17 AM |
#27 |
| -
Oh... |
Dorian Gray |
Oct-13-08 07:44 AM |
#37 |
| -
If it happened, then no it isn't ok. Any other sources to back this up |
jrockford |
Oct-13-08 07:59 AM |
#43 |
| -
I was being sarcastic. |
Dorian Gray |
Oct-13-08 03:19 PM |
#104 |
| -
I thought I had a couple other sources... |
Rage for Order |
Oct-13-08 08:47 PM |
#143 |
| -
Bull-fucking-Shit. If another "source" - or TEN other sources - were posted, your reply would be: |
apocalypsehow |
Oct-13-08 10:32 PM |
#157 |
| -
You consider it OK that he was hanged for converting? |
14thColony |
Oct-13-08 08:24 AM |
#51 |
| -
sarcasm |
LSK |
Oct-13-08 12:56 PM |
#86 |
| -
No, I got it |
14thColony |
Oct-13-08 02:12 PM |
#92 |
| -
Sarcasm |
Dorian Gray |
Oct-13-08 03:19 PM |
#105 |
| -
Two 'sarcasm' replies? It's like deja vu all over again! |
14thColony |
Oct-13-08 04:15 PM |
#108 |
| -
Just want to make sure |
Dorian Gray |
Oct-13-08 06:55 PM |
#128 |
| -
Crazy we even have to discuss this, huh? |
14thColony |
Oct-13-08 07:11 PM |
#130 |
| -
"Hanged for BECOMING a Christian" would be more accurate. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Oct-13-08 03:07 PM |
#103 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-13-08 06:12 AM |
#28 |
| -
Terrible ideal |
pnutbutr |
Oct-13-08 06:43 AM |
#29 |
| -
I think Blarch'point is that you can also find passages recommending death for apostasy in the Bible |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-13-08 07:06 AM |
#30 |
| -
I don't think |
pnutbutr |
Oct-13-08 07:17 AM |
#31 |
| -
Which Christian wrote Deuteronomy again? |
spoony |
Oct-13-08 07:41 AM |
#35 |
| -
So the old testament is not a consideration |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-13-08 12:04 PM |
#73 |
| -
Did you see the post I was replying to? |
spoony |
Oct-14-08 09:35 AM |
#177 |
| -
Anyone think Sarah Palin's church would be any better? |
Fumesucker |
Oct-13-08 07:39 AM |
#34 |
| -
FFS... |
spoony |
Oct-13-08 07:44 AM |
#36 |
| -
But my question remains.. |
Fumesucker |
Oct-13-08 08:16 AM |
#46 |
| -
The question is almost impossibly stupid |
spoony |
Oct-13-08 08:18 AM |
#47 |
| -
Any religion that has absolute power... |
Fumesucker |
Oct-13-08 09:08 AM |
#56 |
| -
Yes, me. Much, much better |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Oct-13-08 09:28 AM |
#62 |
| -
Give them absolute power and see what happens.. |
Fumesucker |
Oct-13-08 09:37 AM |
#64 |
| -
Fred Phelps? n/t |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-13-08 12:05 PM |
#74 |
| -
Hard to tell. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Oct-13-08 06:04 PM |
#122 |
| -
But the crucial point is that they *don't* have absolute power. |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-13-08 09:57 AM |
#68 |
| -
OK.... |
Fumesucker |
Oct-13-08 10:07 AM |
#70 |
| -
There's a difference between being a theocracy, and practicing religious discrimination |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-13-08 01:37 PM |
#91 |
| -
When all political power is held by theists.. |
Fumesucker |
Oct-13-08 05:02 PM |
#114 |
| -
Thats disgusting |
Lifetimedem |
Oct-13-08 05:58 PM |
#121 |
| -
So you think a Christian theocracy would be all sweetness and light? |
Fumesucker |
Oct-13-08 07:44 PM |
#134 |
| -
Gassed for being Muslim in America |
MPK |
Oct-13-08 08:19 AM |
#48 |
| -
No, it's "moral relativism and denial in action" day. |
spoony |
Oct-13-08 08:22 AM |
#49 |
| -
And I'm sure you're offended that black people vote for Obama |
LooseWilly |
Oct-13-08 10:59 PM |
#161 |
| -
Apparently you've never seen |
spoony |
Oct-14-08 09:39 AM |
#178 |
| -
That was a criminal act |
rockymountaindem |
Oct-13-08 09:15 AM |
#59 |
| -
I'm sure the Muslims in the story I posted will be happy to know that. n/t |
MPK |
Oct-13-08 09:25 AM |
#60 |
| -
I'm sure they will |
rockymountaindem |
Oct-13-08 09:32 AM |
#63 |
| -
I haven't heard of any arrests in that case that I posted. |
MPK |
Oct-13-08 09:43 AM |
#66 |
| -
Hmm?, blinders much? |
LooseWilly |
Oct-13-08 11:22 PM |
#164 |
| -
Barbaric |
UndertheOcean |
Oct-13-08 08:23 AM |
#50 |
| -
also here |
UndertheOcean |
Oct-13-08 08:44 AM |
#52 |
| -
This is why our founding fathers... |
Liberalatus |
Oct-13-08 08:49 AM |
#54 |
| -
But, hey, everyone knows Islamic extremists are no worse than the Republicans... |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Oct-13-08 08:50 AM |
#55 |
| -
I totally agree |
UndertheOcean |
Oct-13-08 09:12 AM |
#57 |
| -
How many dead Christians on 9/11/2001? |
Fumesucker |
Oct-13-08 09:13 AM |
#58 |
| -
You can't seriously be using the death toll in Iraq as evidence to defend Muslim extremism? |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Oct-13-08 09:26 AM |
#61 |
| -
I wasn't defending anyone at all... |
Fumesucker |
Oct-13-08 09:46 AM |
#67 |
| -
Events put in motion by Christian Americans.... |
MellowDem |
Oct-13-08 08:48 PM |
#144 |
| -
The one who made the decision is a Christian.. |
Fumesucker |
Oct-13-08 10:20 PM |
#151 |
| -
Weak |
MellowDem |
Oct-14-08 09:30 PM |
#193 |
| -
Nice jingo...the Savage Mules are sharpening their fucking hooves I see. |
tjwash |
Oct-13-08 12:35 PM |
#78 |
| -
Why not just talk to yourself? |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Oct-13-08 06:09 PM |
#124 |
| -
They are in very different situations, though |
treestar |
Oct-13-08 04:24 PM |
#110 |
| -
I think that not executing apostates is inherently superior to executing apostates. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Oct-13-08 06:15 PM |
#126 |
| -
Self Delete - Posted Wrong Spot |
Junkdrawer |
Oct-13-08 05:04 PM |
#115 |
| -
Theocracies suck... |
SidDithers |
Oct-13-08 10:01 AM |
#69 |
| -
Yet Iran still has a (relatively speaking) significant Jewish community... |
bullwinkle428 |
Oct-13-08 10:12 AM |
#71 |
| -
The largest Jewish population in the Middle East outside Israel. |
readmoreoften |
Oct-13-08 12:43 PM |
#83 |
| -
Closer to 3000 years |
14thColony |
Oct-13-08 02:27 PM |
#95 |
| -
Their country, their rules. |
Jed Dilligan |
Oct-13-08 12:08 PM |
#75 |
| -
Human rights do not stop at the lines drawn on maps |
Psephos |
Oct-13-08 12:24 PM |
#76 |
| -
Nice dream, but it will never happen. |
Jed Dilligan |
Oct-13-08 12:49 PM |
#85 |
| -
Flowery rhetorical flourishes |
ronnie624 |
Oct-13-08 12:58 PM |
#87 |
| -
I am not a superpower, don't support a lot of US policy, and will not yield to "practical" cynicism |
Psephos |
Oct-13-08 04:06 PM |
#107 |
| -
Sophistry. n/t |
Raskolnik |
Oct-13-08 04:38 PM |
#112 |
| -
How is my argument deceiving or confusing? |
Jed Dilligan |
Oct-13-08 05:55 PM |
#118 |
| -
Goodie...you think president Pat Robertson would be any more tolerant to moslems or gays? |
tjwash |
Oct-13-08 12:30 PM |
#77 |
| -
awful |
I LUV DEM |
Oct-13-08 12:41 PM |
#82 |
| -
Let's bomb them! Muslims, Christians, ALL OF THEM! |
baby_mouse |
Oct-13-08 12:47 PM |
#84 |
| -
This what happens when you allow a theocracy to exist |
Neo |
Oct-13-08 01:01 PM |
#89 |
| -
A million Iraqis killed by Christians because they were born on top of oil |
NNN0LHI |
Oct-13-08 03:27 PM |
#106 |
| -
Really? |
MellowDem |
Oct-13-08 08:53 PM |
#146 |
| -
A million Iraqis were not killed *by Christians* |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-14-08 06:18 AM |
#169 |
| -
So you are saying that if another country invaded America or Britain with Shock and Awe ... |
NNN0LHI |
Oct-14-08 07:15 AM |
#170 |
| -
I didn't say that at all!!! |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-14-08 07:30 AM |
#171 |
| -
Religion is such a comfort n/t |
Canuckistanian |
Oct-13-08 04:50 PM |
#113 |
| -
Awful law, but the last hung was in 1990.... |
Junkdrawer |
Oct-13-08 05:07 PM |
#116 |
| -
Especially coming from the Daily Telegraph... |
14thColony |
Oct-13-08 07:58 PM |
#138 |
| -
Can you imagine someone who only spoke and read Farsi trying to understand our politics? |
lelgt60 |
Oct-13-08 05:40 PM |
#117 |
| -
Well, guess first, you have to have an understanding of why people move... |
Gwendolyn |
Oct-13-08 06:15 PM |
#127 |
| -
They kill gays, too. n/t |
cynatnite |
Oct-13-08 05:56 PM |
#119 |
| -
Maybe we shouldn't have toppled Mosadeq in 1953 |
dailykoff |
Oct-13-08 05:57 PM |
#120 |
| -
Yeah, this guy should have thought about that before he... |
Zevon fan |
Oct-13-08 07:38 PM |
#133 |
| -
Wow |
MellowDem |
Oct-13-08 08:45 PM |
#141 |
| -
Muslims had nothing to do with what happened on 911. |
dailykoff |
Oct-13-08 08:49 PM |
#145 |
| -
Christians had nothing to do with Iraq |
MellowDem |
Oct-13-08 09:11 PM |
#147 |
| -
Some Christians did. |
LeftishBrit |
Oct-14-08 07:33 AM |
#172 |
| -
True enough |
MellowDem |
Oct-14-08 09:33 PM |
#194 |
| -
A pox on all extremist religions, fundamentalist Christianity included. |
Oregonian |
Oct-13-08 06:10 PM |
#125 |
| -
The consensus of Islamic legal scholars is that apostates must be killed. |
northernsoul |
Oct-13-08 07:28 PM |
#131 |
| -
death to the Xian fundies....death to the Homosexuals...death to the 'spies' |
ohio2007 |
Oct-13-08 07:55 PM |
#136 |
| -
It's kind of like when a gang member gets killed |
Jed Dilligan |
Oct-13-08 07:55 PM |
#137 |
| -
But in this case the "gang member" was "signed up" at birth.. |
Fumesucker |
Oct-13-08 08:47 PM |
#142 |
| -
You think people aren't signed up into gangs at birth? |
Jed Dilligan |
Oct-13-08 09:23 PM |
#148 |
| -
If you have evidence that people are indeed signed up for gangs at birth.. |
Fumesucker |
Oct-13-08 10:22 PM |
#153 |
| -
Common knowledge, a lot of gangs are in their 3rd or 4th generation. |
Jed Dilligan |
Oct-13-08 10:30 PM |
#156 |
| -
So you don't have evidence.. |
Fumesucker |
Oct-13-08 10:50 PM |
#159 |
| -
No, I don't have time. |
Jed Dilligan |
Oct-13-08 11:04 PM |
#162 |
| -
Gangs could easily be decimated overnight.... |
Fumesucker |
Oct-14-08 09:10 AM |
#174 |
| -
I agree with that. I don't agree that our country has ANY business |
Jed Dilligan |
Oct-14-08 01:21 PM |
#189 |
| -
What a remarkable thread. |
spoony |
Oct-14-08 09:53 AM |
#179 |
| -
Maybe the reason there are not so many condemnations about this is because ... |
NNN0LHI |
Oct-14-08 10:17 AM |
#181 |
| -
Do you also doubt they hang gay teens? |
spoony |
Oct-14-08 10:20 AM |
#182 |
| -
Did you believe Saddam was grinding up people in huge shredders too? |
NNN0LHI |
Oct-14-08 10:27 AM |
#184 |
| -
I believe he was a killer. That, like this, deserves condemnation |
spoony |
Oct-14-08 10:34 AM |
#185 |
| -
There is a huge "condemnation overload" on Iran these days.. |
Fumesucker |
Oct-14-08 10:24 AM |
#183 |
| -
perhaps a better source is in order |
Skittles |
Oct-14-08 10:44 PM |
#195 |
| -
Beheaded for being a witch in Saudi Arabia |
loindelrio |
Oct-14-08 10:09 AM |
#180 |
| -
really? |
Gwendolyn |
Oct-14-08 10:47 AM |
#186 |
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