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Reply #53: Other "entities" aren't religions . . . and subject to Separation of Church & State . . . [View All]

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 12:01 PM
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53. Other "entities" aren't religions . . . and subject to Separation of Church & State . . .
so it is that simple --

Our founders didn't separate State from candy makers, or glue makers, or the Girl

Scouts, nor separate it from car makers -- the founders separated STATE only from

CHURCH --

And if you understand the meaning of democracy you know our highest privilege is

freedom of thought, freedom of conscience and self-determination. Separation of

Church & State provides that right, that guarantee.



As for "moral" teachings, in fact, organized patriarchal religions have been shockingly
immoral -- with Medieval Christainity having been described "as a moral setback for humanity."
And it doesn't take much to understand the immorality of a one-male-god/patriarchal religion
when the majority of humans born onto the planet are female.

No . . . the Bible, itself, was used in Congress to advocate for slavery . . . so it's more
than simply groups or a church here or there. KKK connected itself to "Christianity" in its
advocation for white supremacy.

Why would any feminist support organized patriarchal religion of any kind?

Why should any enlightened male support organized patriarchal religion of any kind?




It's not that simple...
Posted by TreasonousBastard
since other tax-exempt entities have the ability to lobby and publicize their causes. Besides, how can you completely separate politics from ethical teachings? If churches didn't advocate their moral teachings, they would often be dismissed as hypocrites by many of the same people who complain about their advocacy now.

You pick out slavery as an issue that many churches were on the wrong side of, but it was also the abolitionist churches that worked the Underground Railroad and helped keep the anti-slavery movement alive. How about finding the churches that agree with you and supporting in some way their efforts just as you would support MoveOn, the ACLU or other secular advocacy organization?

(Ever bother to see what the American Friends Service Committee or Mennonite Central are up to?)






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