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Sat Oct-11-08 12:28 AM
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| 1. He probably has seen many before... |
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Dumb idiots who go back into a dead-end relationship with an abusive partner instead of taking the kids and whatever fits in a suitcase and never come back, for her sake and that of her kids.
Don't get me started, because it took a bit too long for my mother to leave my first step father.
I totally see where that judge is coming from.
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| -Canada judge tells woman not to call police if battered again |
ccharles000 |
Oct-11-08 12:20 AM |
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He probably has seen many before... |
AzNick |
Oct-11-08 12:28 AM |
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. |
kgfnally |
Oct-11-08 12:35 AM |
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Any stats on how many Canadian battered women are murdered when trying to leave? |
Oregone |
Oct-11-08 01:11 AM |
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The problem with that theory is that this woman had the guts to take the guy to court. |
OmelasExpat |
Oct-11-08 12:37 AM |
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Why do you go back with someone who beats you? |
AzNick |
Oct-11-08 12:44 AM |
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Why do you keep hitting your wife? |
Book Lover |
Oct-11-08 12:48 AM |
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Both my mother and myself were abused by my 1st stepdad |
AzNick |
Oct-11-08 03:55 PM |
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So you are still angry at your abused mother and making excuses for your abusive stepfather |
Book Lover |
Oct-11-08 04:39 PM |
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Yep, indeed. |
AzNick |
Oct-11-08 05:20 PM |
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I was in the same situation, and my mother never left my stepdad. |
OmelasExpat |
Oct-11-08 11:44 PM |
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because they're sick in the head |
Clovis Sangrail |
Oct-11-08 12:51 AM |
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And you help them by blaming them for someone else's abuse? |
Triana |
Oct-11-08 09:21 PM |
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how the hell did I blame them? |
Clovis Sangrail |
Oct-11-08 10:32 PM |
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"Assholism should not be tolerated in a civil society" isn't logical enough for you? |
OmelasExpat |
Oct-11-08 12:57 AM |
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Because the abuser threatens your parents, your kids and your friends with death |
lunatica |
Oct-11-08 02:15 PM |
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A lot of the time, it's because they have no means of self-support |
LeftyMom |
Oct-11-08 03:02 PM |
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When you're battered, leaving your home is the last thing you want to do. |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-11-08 07:13 PM |
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There probably is no "logical" explanation... |
Vektor |
Oct-11-08 04:21 PM |
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Well, for some, they don't have the financial |
awoke_in_2003 |
Oct-11-08 04:29 PM |
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Good for you! |
LeftyMom |
Oct-11-08 07:22 PM |
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I do not endorse violence... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Oct-11-08 07:29 PM |
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I understand. |
LeftyMom |
Oct-11-08 07:43 PM |
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You need to read this: |
Stellabella |
Oct-11-08 10:34 PM |
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quit blaming the victim..... wasnt he a victim, more so than his mother? n/t |
seabeyond |
Oct-11-08 10:53 PM |
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Of course children are the victims of spousal abuse. |
Stellabella |
Oct-11-08 10:55 PM |
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but this is what i dont get. any reason the woman is in that position she is victim |
seabeyond |
Oct-11-08 11:02 PM |
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There are many, many, many reasons why women stay |
Stellabella |
Oct-11-08 11:05 PM |
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as many mixed up psychological reason there is a woman stays, this man has the mixed |
seabeyond |
Oct-11-08 11:15 PM |
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But the problem is blaming mom and not blaming the abuser. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-11-08 11:41 PM |
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i think if you read his post, he certainly has no love for this man and i do not |
seabeyond |
Oct-12-08 12:26 AM |
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Read post 68. |
Stellabella |
Oct-12-08 11:43 AM |
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wtf.... 68 is a poster accusing him of making excuses, NOT him making excuses. he wanted to kick |
seabeyond |
Oct-12-08 11:50 AM |
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What part of this don't you understand? |
Stellabella |
Oct-12-08 02:27 PM |
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So... |
Book Lover |
Oct-11-08 12:45 AM |
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Yea, cause it's so easy for a woman with a suitcase and a bunch |
lizzy |
Oct-11-08 12:55 AM |
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So you agree with the judge - blame the victim |
lunatica |
Oct-11-08 02:13 PM |
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I, for one, say the "Dumb idiots" are the FUCKING ABUSERS. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-11-08 02:19 PM |
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Blame the victim. Nice! |
Blue State Native |
Oct-11-08 04:09 PM |
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And it's just that fucking simple, huh? |
Chulanowa |
Oct-11-08 04:53 PM |
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aznick, i will be the first mother to say how sorry i am that you experienced the |
seabeyond |
Oct-11-08 05:20 PM |
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A Canadian judge needs to be disbarred and forced to work in a women's shelter. |
OmelasExpat |
Oct-11-08 12:33 AM |
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Didn't read the actual article did you! |
whistler162 |
Oct-11-08 04:32 AM |
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You don't know anything about the psychology of batterers (or their victims) do you? |
BlueIris |
Oct-11-08 05:06 AM |
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But according to the article, only the woman had the physical evidence to prove an assault on her. |
OmelasExpat |
Oct-11-08 09:53 AM |
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What a relief |
Orrex |
Oct-11-08 12:33 AM |
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I can see how she would be upset |
Clovis Sangrail |
Oct-11-08 12:35 AM |
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Two interesting twists from the actual article |
whistler162 |
Oct-11-08 02:00 AM |
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I don't know if he should have dismissed the charges |
dwickham |
Oct-11-08 02:23 AM |
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Please read some of this information, and rethink your position |
Book Lover |
Oct-11-08 02:32 AM |
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Thanks for posting some hard facts for those in denial of the reality of violence against women. |
BlueIris |
Oct-11-08 05:08 AM |
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Oct-11-08 06:10 AM |
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Clearly you understood nothing in those links |
Book Lover |
Oct-11-08 12:01 PM |
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Oct-11-08 12:49 PM |
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I don't need to read it |
dwickham |
Oct-12-08 01:50 AM |
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Fine |
Book Lover |
Oct-12-08 02:59 AM |
#116 |
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what anger |
dwickham |
Oct-12-08 03:10 AM |
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Yes, but she'll walk away and he'll abuse another. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-12-08 09:06 AM |
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Most women who are murdered are killed by their husbands or boyfriends |
lunatica |
Oct-11-08 02:40 PM |
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What an ignorant @sshole. I hope this judge gets his remote kick and high. |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-11-08 03:15 AM |
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It's possible that the judge viewed the situation as a two-sided game |
bean fidhleir |
Oct-11-08 05:32 AM |
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So you think taking someone to court for beating you up is akin to beating someone up? |
gollygee |
Oct-11-08 09:58 AM |
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It is if it's part of a game. |
bean fidhleir |
Oct-11-08 10:28 AM |
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That wasn't the point... |
Realityhack |
Oct-11-08 12:37 PM |
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So she wasn't showing the proper feminine passivity in her response? |
thecatburgler |
Oct-11-08 12:47 PM |
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No, judging solely by the article, she's behaving in an inauthentic, gamey way |
bean fidhleir |
Oct-11-08 02:24 PM |
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as a woman, i am not totally opposed to what the judge is saying. and even the womans |
seabeyond |
Oct-11-08 01:33 PM |
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When you blame the victim, when you create an atmosphere of judgment |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-11-08 01:50 PM |
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i am very much into woman rights, i am also into personal responsibility |
seabeyond |
Oct-11-08 01:55 PM |
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And how often have you connected to the abusers? |
Book Lover |
Oct-11-08 01:59 PM |
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to the abuser? abuse: wrong, bad, no, not ok, no excuse. not a tough one there. that one is real |
seabeyond |
Oct-11-08 02:08 PM |
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So the answer to my question is no |
Book Lover |
Oct-11-08 02:16 PM |
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no that is not my answer. you interpret wrong. i am not the enemy and not here |
seabeyond |
Oct-11-08 02:35 PM |
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Thank you for your answer |
Book Lover |
Oct-11-08 02:43 PM |
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i watched my brother and sister in law do this dance for 12 years |
seabeyond |
Oct-11-08 03:48 PM |
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Thank you very much |
Book Lover |
Oct-11-08 04:40 PM |
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Personal responsibility is not the antithesis of victim. |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-11-08 02:05 PM |
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nor did i say that it was. but i could also suggest no responsibility for being in a |
seabeyond |
Oct-11-08 02:11 PM |
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Blame is not empowering. Judgment is not supportive. Lectures |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-11-08 02:17 PM |
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i have also dealt with women that will not honesty look at all sides, angles |
seabeyond |
Oct-11-08 02:38 PM |
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The really disturbing part is that the judge said NOT TO CALL THE POLICE IF IT HAPPENED AGAIN |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-11-08 02:41 PM |
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They don't deal "honestly"? |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-11-08 03:08 PM |
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Personal responsibility gets trumped by terror |
lunatica |
Oct-11-08 02:26 PM |
#44 |
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you miss the point or misinterpret what i say, or refuse to be open |
seabeyond |
Oct-11-08 02:40 PM |
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And you are using sweeping generalizations |
lunatica |
Oct-11-08 02:54 PM |
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firstly, you do not know my experiences, so please do not assume |
seabeyond |
Oct-11-08 03:10 PM |
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Well I won't attack you for being raped, ever and under any circumstances |
lunatica |
Oct-11-08 03:51 PM |
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post 57... even if i see that i have some part in my own rape |
seabeyond |
Oct-11-08 04:04 PM |
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then rather than say they lack personal responsibility while in an abusive situation |
lunatica |
Oct-11-08 05:23 PM |
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except that isn't true. and if they never hear it then they may never get there |
seabeyond |
Oct-11-08 05:31 PM |
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It's not up to you to decide what is true for other people. |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-11-08 07:12 PM |
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my gosh sf you do it to every poster without hesitation if they do not fall into line with you |
seabeyond |
Oct-11-08 07:40 PM |
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I'm going to get out of the way of this entire movie you're projecting all over the place. |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-11-08 07:52 PM |
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do you want to know my point of bringing in the rape. look at aznick and his thread |
seabeyond |
Oct-11-08 05:17 PM |
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And my point is blaming the victim is NEVER right. |
lunatica |
Oct-11-08 05:36 PM |
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blaming the victim is NEVER right.... aznick is the ultimate VICTIM and i am addressing |
seabeyond |
Oct-11-08 05:55 PM |
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'Personal responsiblity' is crap when applied to abused women. |
Stellabella |
Oct-11-08 10:56 PM |
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Why do we have so many dumb judges here? |
HEyHEY |
Oct-11-08 02:11 PM |
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Like this one |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-11-08 02:47 PM |
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This thread is full of a lot of stupid. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-11-08 02:22 PM |
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Yes, it sure is. |
gollygee |
Oct-11-08 03:12 PM |
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I was going to respond to PeaceNikki but you nailed it in topic and body. |
Poll_Blind |
Oct-11-08 03:53 PM |
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i agree |
awoke_in_2003 |
Oct-11-08 04:48 PM |
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I cannot believe this thread has turned to blaming the woman - where is the outrage about the man.. |
Triana |
Oct-11-08 08:42 PM |
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I can. That's how this place rolls, sometimes. |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-11-08 11:23 PM |
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Wow, is all I can say. Rec |
sarcasmo |
Oct-11-08 03:50 PM |
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Violence against women is a MEN'S issue |
PeaceNikki |
Oct-11-08 03:56 PM |
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the first time a victim |
MrsBrady |
Oct-11-08 04:15 PM |
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You need to learn something about this topic before you repeat this stuff again. |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-11-08 05:23 PM |
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first hand experience is enough n/t |
MrsBrady |
Oct-11-08 06:14 PM |
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Then, you might want to consider that your experience is yours |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-11-08 06:21 PM |
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i can think what i want |
MrsBrady |
Oct-11-08 06:32 PM |
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Exactly. And it works both ways. |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-11-08 06:41 PM |
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you are the one that responded to me n/t |
MrsBrady |
Oct-11-08 06:54 PM |
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Yes. You're right. I did do that. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-11-08 06:55 PM |
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I understand what the judge meant. They get frustrated with women who keep going back.. |
progressivebydesign |
Oct-11-08 07:07 PM |
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Yes. It's much easier to get frustrated than to actually make a difference. nt |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-11-08 07:11 PM |
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Oh the poor judge! |
lunatica |
Oct-11-08 07:23 PM |
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It's sort of weird the way people don't see that trading one abusive |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-11-08 07:56 PM |
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on a Democratic website it is beyond 'weird" |
Skittles |
Oct-11-08 09:03 PM |
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The police and judicial system DO NOT keep helping them out of there.. |
Triana |
Oct-11-08 08:47 PM |
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oh boofuckinghoo for that judge. |
chimpsrsmarter |
Oct-11-08 11:46 PM |
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A reply to those who agree with the judges decision |
JonLP24 |
Oct-12-08 02:17 AM |
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That's a description specifically of a criminal psychopath. Fortunately, they're rare. |
bean fidhleir |
Oct-12-08 08:18 AM |
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You're right |
JonLP24 |
Oct-13-08 02:07 AM |
#125 |
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Dude - I gotta ask: What's with the stalker-pic in your sig? |
BlooInBloo |
Oct-12-08 08:19 AM |
#119 |
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... |
ccharles000 |
Oct-12-08 09:06 AM |
#120 |
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