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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 02:35 PM
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22. Some of you people don't read very well - even your own links.

"Does it mean that Palin hates rape victims, blames them for their assaults, etc.? No. Like many a Republican before her, she was shifting the cost of a government service off her books and onto others (in this case, she planned on health insurance providers and Medicaid picking up Wasilla's slack). That it was done with little reflection on the potential ramifications to health insurance companies or the hospitals, the possibility of having one's insurance revoked for utilizing it for an expensive emergency room visit or the 15% of Americans (including Alaskans) who lack health insurance, among other things, makes it bad policy but it doesn't make her a bad person. An uninsightful one with an inability to consider the potential unintended consequences of her actions, perhaps, but not a rape-promoter."

The charge floating around, and under discussion here, is that Palin charged victims for rape kits. Even someone who puts the worse possible spin on the facts, as the link you provided does, concedes that the City of Wasilla charged nary a single rape victim for anything - simply tried to pass the costs on to insurance companies or Medicare. Palin herself has never commented on the matter.

But, as I said, by all means carry on. Mine was an observation, not a complaint.
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  -About those rape kits... TreasonousBastard  Oct-05-08 01:39 PM   #0 
  - They had no business billing their insurance.  ingac70   Oct-05-08 01:42 PM   #1 
  - Absolutely correct. The cost of using those kits needed to be  Midlodemocrat   Oct-05-08 01:43 PM   #2 
  - Maybe there's just a shitload of rapes going on there  someonehasdementia   Oct-05-08 02:01 PM   #12 
     - Unfortunately, there ARE. Alaska's statewide rape stats are 2+ times the na tonal average and I  beac   Oct-05-08 02:34 PM   #21 
     - Actually, and unfortunately, you are correct.  Midlodemocrat   Oct-05-08 02:37 PM   #24 
        - Also the meth capital  jmowreader   Oct-05-08 08:02 PM   #59 
  - agreed.  YDogg   Oct-05-08 01:44 PM   #5 
  - They could BILL, but insurance would DENY since not health care.  uppityperson   Oct-05-08 03:29 PM   #47 
  - There is ZERO health value for a rape kit  alcibiades_mystery   Oct-05-08 01:43 PM   #3 
  - Working poor  Abaddon865   Oct-05-08 01:43 PM   #4 
  - Rape kits are not considered medical care or treatment, they're forensics tools.  wienerdoggie   Oct-05-08 01:44 PM   #6 
  - Illinois did the same thing.  emilyg   Oct-05-08 02:59 PM   #40 
     - Look, it's EmilyG, here to help the enemy. Good for you, Em.  wienerdoggie   Oct-05-08 03:01 PM   #41 
        - shut-up bully.  emilyg   Oct-05-08 06:46 PM   #56 
  - That's illegal  sandnsea   Oct-05-08 01:45 PM   #7 
  - Billing the insurance company costs the insured...reduces their lifetime or yearly benefits  Liberal_in_LA   Oct-05-08 01:46 PM   #8 
  - So it would be OK tfor the police to bill all victims?  ThoughtCriminal   Oct-05-08 01:47 PM   #9 
  - well what if they didn't have insurance...  MrsBrady   Oct-05-08 01:47 PM   #10 
  - Its general procedure to bill the inusance companies  Az   Oct-05-08 01:48 PM   #11 
  - We are not talking about a State  Bluenorthwest   Oct-05-08 03:10 PM   #43 
  - In Illinois  uppityperson   Oct-05-08 04:18 PM   #53 
  - It's one of those areas in which we mirror the Freepii - we cherish the easy talking point,  apocalypsehow   Oct-05-08 02:09 PM   #13 
  - "long debunked" - WTF?  ThoughtCriminal   Oct-05-08 02:22 PM   #16 
  - No skin off my nose if you want to keep peddling that debunked line - like I said, Palin deserves  apocalypsehow   Oct-05-08 02:27 PM   #17 
     - You have not responded to a single point  ThoughtCriminal   Oct-05-08 02:32 PM   #20 
        - The link in the OP at Fact Check thoroughly debunks it, as does numerous other sources.  apocalypsehow   Oct-05-08 02:37 PM   #23 
           - It is a pitiful "debunking"  ThoughtCriminal   Oct-05-08 02:52 PM   #36 
  - You should read this:  LibInTexas   Oct-05-08 02:28 PM   #18 
  - Some of you people don't read very well - even your own links.  apocalypsehow   Oct-05-08 02:35 PM   #22 
     - That's some very selecttive reading there  ThoughtCriminal   Oct-05-08 02:40 PM   #26 
     - Not a bit of it - but you go right ahead and believe what you wish.  apocalypsehow   Oct-05-08 02:42 PM   #29 
        - ???  ThoughtCriminal   Oct-05-08 02:57 PM   #39 
     - INSANE.  beac   Oct-05-08 02:42 PM   #28 
     - I agree with you there, though not for the same reasons.  apocalypsehow   Oct-05-08 02:45 PM   #31 
     - It's splitting hairs to say it's debunked because the victims weren't  LibInTexas   Oct-05-08 02:52 PM   #35 
     - You say it's splitting hairs, I say it's an important distinction. We'll have to agree to disagree.  apocalypsehow   Oct-05-08 02:54 PM   #38 
        - It DOES NOT DEBUNK the story. When people hear that "It's been debunked..."  LibInTexas   Oct-05-08 03:04 PM   #42 
           - Tax cuts or support victims of sexual abuse crimes? Hmm, which to chose.  uppityperson   Oct-05-08 04:11 PM   #52 
     - Did you stop beating your wife? n/t  ismnotwasm   Oct-05-08 03:41 PM   #49 
  - Speaking of meeting on the other side...  beac   Oct-05-08 02:38 PM   #25 
  - LOL!  apocalypsehow   Oct-05-08 02:41 PM   #27 
     - It seems you stopped taking yours for  beac   Oct-05-08 02:43 PM   #30 
        - Whatever you say. Have a wonderful afternoon, and don't forget to vote Nov. 4th.  apocalypsehow   Oct-05-08 02:47 PM   #33 
           - You too.  beac   Oct-05-08 02:53 PM   #37 
           - You know, there is really only one way to settle this: ask Palin herself.  ColbertWatcher   Oct-05-08 03:25 PM   #45 
  - "long debunked":  Bluebear   Oct-05-08 03:29 PM   #48 
  - There's something to be said for the easy talking point.  SmokingJacket   Oct-05-08 04:07 PM   #51 
  - If the women didn't have insurance or had a high co-pay ... no The Victims Paid.  ShortnFiery   Oct-05-08 02:11 PM   #14 
  - "Dear Rapists: Choose women without insurance if you want a better chance to get away with it."  TahitiNut   Oct-05-08 02:15 PM   #15 
  - One word: DEDUCTIBLE  beac   Oct-05-08 02:32 PM   #19 
  - Exactly. And the GOP are pushing these "high deductible" insurances  mwooldri   Oct-05-08 04:26 PM   #54 
  - This was big news around here about two weeks ago.  riverdeep   Oct-05-08 02:46 PM   #32 
  - Think about these two words; Emergency Contraception  ismnotwasm   Oct-05-08 02:48 PM   #34 
  - You can BILL insurance, but they won't PAY since this is forensic, not health care.NOT debunked.  uppityperson   Oct-05-08 03:27 PM   #46 
  - I made a poll for you to help see if this explanation is sufficient.  ColbertWatcher   Oct-05-08 03:54 PM   #50 
  - Debunking the "Debunkers": Palin knew. She approved. She's responsible.  philosophie_en_rose   Oct-05-08 04:58 PM   #55 
  - What if they don't have insurance? n/t  renie408   Oct-05-08 06:51 PM   #57 
  - it's the SAME FUCKING THING and seems even worse  JI7   Oct-05-08 07:11 PM   #58 
     - Yes, because now the insurance company KNOWS YOUR BUSINESS  WakeMeUp   Oct-05-08 09:16 PM   #60 

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