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Response to Reply #123 |
| 124. Who is being accused? |
| -Q: "Are Black people immoral?" A: "I'll leave that for others to conclude." |
Clarkie1 |
Mar-14-07 11:16 PM |
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"Is the Iraq War immoral?" A: "I'll leave that for others to conclude." |
eleny |
Mar-14-07 11:19 PM |
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What the hell are you talking about? |
Erika |
Mar-14-07 11:20 PM |
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I will clarify....see edited OP shortly. nt |
Clarkie1 |
Mar-14-07 11:21 PM |
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right you are. |
robinlynne |
Mar-14-07 11:21 PM |
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Um, a bit fuzzy on the details |
Canuckistanian |
Mar-14-07 11:22 PM |
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Please see edited OP for clarification. nt |
Clarkie1 |
Mar-14-07 11:23 PM |
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Must be referring to presidential hopeful Clinton on gays |
nilram |
Mar-14-07 11:29 PM |
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Are you using race as an example of an immutable characteristic? And homosexuality is also? |
Ninja Jordan |
Mar-14-07 11:26 PM |
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I do. It's who a person is a much as a color of their skin. nt |
Clarkie1 |
Mar-14-07 11:27 PM |
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Then your example is beyond idiotic (nm). |
Ninja Jordan |
Mar-14-07 11:28 PM |
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Well...we clearly disagree. |
Clarkie1 |
Mar-14-07 11:30 PM |
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Blacks were killed for trying to fucking read. I can SEE someone who is black. |
Ninja Jordan |
Mar-14-07 11:31 PM |
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You are making those comparisons not me. |
Clarkie1 |
Mar-14-07 11:34 PM |
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Uh, you're comparing being gay to being black. Do you read what you post? |
Ninja Jordan |
Mar-14-07 11:36 PM |
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Being gay is as much a part of a person as their skin color, |
Midlodemocrat |
Mar-15-07 10:31 AM |
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Oh come on |
treestar |
Mar-15-07 11:47 AM |
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I didn't choose my skin color or my orientation. |
mondo joe |
Mar-15-07 12:51 PM |
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And gays have been killed for trying fucking BREATHE. |
Lex |
Mar-15-07 12:49 AM |
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yes. eom |
nofurylike |
Mar-15-07 12:52 AM |
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Mar-15-07 01:58 AM |
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"Stay behind closed doors" |
Big Pappa |
Mar-15-07 02:28 AM |
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Sure it's wrong, but Rosie O'Donnell isn't frickin MLK |
Ninja Jordan |
Mar-15-07 02:59 AM |
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We |
Big Pappa |
Mar-15-07 03:48 AM |
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You should quit while you're behind... way behind. |
Bonobo |
Mar-15-07 04:21 AM |
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Sorry, but the civil rights struggle blacks face isn't comparable to gay marriage |
Ninja Jordan |
Mar-15-07 11:38 AM |
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For fuck's sake no one sane is trying to make the comparison |
Chovexani |
Mar-15-07 03:35 PM |
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That's plain idiotic. "Rosie O'Donnel isn't frickin MLK"??? |
Lex |
Mar-15-07 08:40 AM |
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Who the fuck said she was? |
mondo joe |
Mar-15-07 09:26 AM |
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Let's get real here. Does Coretta Scott King's opinion carry any weight here? |
94114_San_Francisco |
Mar-15-07 11:44 AM |
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I love it... but nobody wants to touch this... |
Flubadubya |
Mar-15-07 11:58 AM |
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The only problem is, there's a huge amount of classism and racism in the urban gay community. |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-15-07 03:13 PM |
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"Choose" to live a "lifestyle" behind closed doors? |
Harvey Korman |
Mar-15-07 04:11 AM |
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Wow. Your bigotry is showing. |
haruka3_2000 |
Mar-15-07 09:21 AM |
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Bullshit. Gays are attacked for simply EXISTING. |
mondo joe |
Mar-15-07 09:23 AM |
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Um. So are blacks. |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-15-07 03:14 PM |
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Which proves they are alike. Duh. |
mondo joe |
Mar-15-07 03:23 PM |
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A. It's not a "lifestyle" it's an orientation--a facet of one's entire being |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Mar-15-07 12:09 PM |
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A black person can't pass as white? Are you serious? |
uppityperson |
Mar-15-07 12:59 PM |
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I can't decide if that's more offensive or stupid. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Mar-15-07 03:24 PM |
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Gay people are killed all the time. Read the news. |
yardwork |
Mar-15-07 03:42 PM |
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heinous(!!!) crimes have been committed, and still are, against |
nofurylike |
Mar-15-07 12:50 AM |
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Excuse me, but when were gays "enslaved" as you say? |
Tyrone Slothrop |
Mar-15-07 09:48 AM |
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Try Nazi Germany. NT |
mondo joe |
Mar-15-07 09:50 AM |
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I don't exactly consider that slavery |
Tyrone Slothrop |
Mar-15-07 10:14 AM |
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Mar-15-07 12:47 PM |
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Idiotic, hm? That's nice. |
yardwork |
Mar-15-07 03:41 PM |
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Oh? And why not, exactly? |
Canuckistanian |
Mar-14-07 11:32 PM |
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No I don't think it's a choice. However, comparing it to blacks' 150 year civil rights struggle |
Ninja Jordan |
Mar-14-07 11:35 PM |
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Gays have struggled for civil rights too. It's not exclusive to blacks. |
Lex |
Mar-15-07 12:44 AM |
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Tell that to the thousands of gays & lesbians who have been |
Coventina |
Mar-15-07 11:45 AM |
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Indeed. Even some straight people have been killed |
kenny blankenship |
Mar-15-07 12:38 AM |
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Not civil rights movement - but sexual orientation, yes. |
donco6 |
Mar-15-07 04:26 AM |
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I see your point and I am disgusted. She is going to have to do a gut-check. |
Beausoir |
Mar-14-07 11:28 PM |
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I know, and I respect Edwards for that. |
Clarkie1 |
Mar-14-07 11:31 PM |
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It wasn't an equal rights question. |
Bluedogvoter |
Mar-14-07 11:36 PM |
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OK,I'll be the target here. Being of different races is not considered |
napi21 |
Mar-14-07 11:36 PM |
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Homosexuality is not "learned, engendered, or otherwise developed." |
Clarkie1 |
Mar-14-07 11:40 PM |
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Then you're saying it's an immutable characteristic--the ONLY relation it has to being black |
Ninja Jordan |
Mar-14-07 11:42 PM |
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The "only" relation to the civil rights struggle? |
Kingshakabobo |
Mar-15-07 12:18 AM |
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Different struggles for the same thing: legal equality. |
mondo joe |
Mar-15-07 09:27 AM |
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I see your point and I agree, it is not a choice, but as I see it, the difference |
napi21 |
Mar-15-07 12:01 AM |
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What justification do you think slave owners used back in the day? |
GloriaSmith |
Mar-15-07 12:03 AM |
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I agree with your point 100% |
GloriaSmith |
Mar-14-07 11:46 PM |
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To answer Clarkie1- Hillary Clinton gave an awful answer |
herbster |
Mar-14-07 11:49 PM |
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Mar-14-07 11:51 PM |
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I'll leave that for others to conclude. |
Bluedogvoter |
Mar-14-07 11:53 PM |
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Welcome to DU! |
renate |
Mar-15-07 02:36 AM |
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I haven't read other responses. I'll stick my head into the noose. |
leftofthedial |
Mar-14-07 11:51 PM |
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I'm not a supporter of HRC ( for president ) but |
jaysunb |
Mar-14-07 11:55 PM |
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exactly |
SemperEadem |
Mar-15-07 01:30 PM |
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Q: Are white people immoral? My A: ?????????? How the heck should I know ?? |
terisan |
Mar-14-07 11:56 PM |
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Suprisingly, I think its a decent answer |
champt10 |
Mar-15-07 12:01 AM |
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Interesting argument. |
Bluedogvoter |
Mar-15-07 12:03 AM |
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Thank you. |
champt10 |
Mar-15-07 12:04 AM |
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Gitmo is a" tactical decision" |
IChing |
Mar-15-07 12:00 AM |
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not really a good analogy. Sexual orientation can't always be replaced by race |
ComerPerro |
Mar-15-07 12:02 AM |
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Mar-15-07 12:07 AM |
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So when did you choose your sexual orientation? |
GreenJ |
Mar-15-07 12:49 AM |
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I think when talking in terms of... |
champt10 |
Mar-15-07 12:51 AM |
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I've got news for you. Homosexuality is more than who you have sex with. |
Lex |
Mar-15-07 12:54 AM |
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Bullshit |
ruggerson |
Mar-15-07 12:57 AM |
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Being gay is not about sex |
FreeState |
Mar-15-07 01:01 AM |
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Sad |
ends_dont_justify |
Mar-15-07 01:03 AM |
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You are seriously confused about sexual orientation. |
donco6 |
Mar-15-07 04:29 AM |
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Orientation is not limited to when you have sex. Let's educate you here. |
mondo joe |
Mar-15-07 09:28 AM |
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ummmmm..... |
Neecy |
Mar-15-07 10:00 AM |
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Ignorant post. |
cwydro |
Mar-15-07 12:05 PM |
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Fucking cowardly answer |
GreenJ |
Mar-15-07 12:53 AM |
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To some people |
ends_dont_justify |
Mar-15-07 12:57 AM |
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Q: "Are white males immoral?" A: "I'll leave that for others to conclude." |
leftofthedial |
Mar-15-07 12:58 AM |
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Some will come to that conclusion --Just keep personal opinions OUT of |
rodeodance |
Mar-15-07 01:07 AM |
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Good way to make a point, Clarkie1. What about HERMAPHRODITES??? |
Duppers |
Mar-15-07 01:08 AM |
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I think the difference is - Some see gay as a verb while being black is a noun |
The Straight Story |
Mar-15-07 01:13 AM |
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And if so, they're ignorant about sexual orientation. |
donco6 |
Mar-15-07 04:33 AM |
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Can you identify a gay person by just looking at them? |
jeffrey_X |
Mar-15-07 01:31 AM |
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There's plenty of people who'd disagree with you, with the topic of random anti gay violence NT |
ends_dont_justify |
Mar-15-07 01:34 AM |
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Does it matter? |
FreeState |
Mar-15-07 01:46 AM |
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Most of the time, yes. |
donco6 |
Mar-15-07 04:34 AM |
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Ask people who are judged to be gay on sight. NT |
mondo joe |
Mar-15-07 09:25 AM |
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No. And can we identify a black person by just looking at them? NO! |
Dora |
Mar-15-07 10:16 AM |
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So most blacks can't be identified by looks alone? |
Leopolds Ghost |
Mar-15-07 03:19 PM |
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I never said anything about superiority, so don't waste your breath refuting it. |
Dora |
Mar-15-07 03:32 PM |
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You can't always identify Blacks by looking either. |
GOTV |
Mar-15-07 12:27 PM |
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It certainly isn't a 100% comparison |
gollygee |
Mar-15-07 01:14 PM |
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as much as I dislike Hillary, I find the substitution of the word "black" |
Donnachaidh |
Mar-15-07 01:43 AM |
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Hillary's lack of courage is the fucking point here, people! |
Duppers |
Mar-15-07 01:44 AM |
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You're absolutely correct. |
greyl |
Mar-15-07 03:07 AM |
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Except the question you're using is badly phrased. |
politicat |
Mar-15-07 01:56 AM |
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Homosexuality is not a quality |
FreeState |
Mar-15-07 02:19 AM |
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I'm pretty sure i've seen her use this response elsewhere |
RedCappedBandit |
Mar-15-07 02:32 AM |
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I don't know why politicians say stupid ass things like that. |
Marr |
Mar-15-07 02:49 AM |
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I'm afraid Hillary stepped in a big pile of shit with this one. |
AndyA |
Mar-15-07 09:31 AM |
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Point made....but why not start with Q: "Are white males immoral?".... |
marmar |
Mar-15-07 09:36 AM |
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The thread would be the same, pretty much |
sleebarker |
Mar-15-07 09:56 AM |
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It is a horrible answer, which she will need to change |
goodhue |
Mar-15-07 09:42 AM |
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Excellent post n/t |
cboy4 |
Mar-15-07 09:50 AM |
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This is a bullshit post... |
butterfly77 |
Mar-15-07 03:08 PM |
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I get your point, but what a clumsy way to make it... |
Beelzebud |
Mar-15-07 09:59 AM |
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To all of you who don't see gay rights as a civil rights issue: |
verse18 |
Mar-15-07 10:04 AM |
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Clarkie's point is that |
BoneDaddy |
Mar-15-07 10:22 AM |
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Hillary was asked about "ality", not "als". |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Mar-15-07 10:25 AM |
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Is Hillary Clinton immoral? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Mar-15-07 11:40 AM |
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I agree HC answer to that question was weak and stupid |
WI_DEM |
Mar-15-07 11:45 AM |
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Immorality is based on behavior. |
qwlauren35 |
Mar-15-07 11:47 AM |
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Arrrrrrrrrrgh |
treestar |
Mar-15-07 11:49 AM |
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Note to Hillary: The correct answer is "no" |
gollygee |
Mar-15-07 12:50 PM |
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This question is stupid. |
cat_girl25 |
Mar-15-07 12:53 PM |
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Mar-15-07 01:31 PM |
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It's still stupid. |
cat_girl25 |
Mar-15-07 02:10 PM |
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Whom are you referencing? |
Ninja Jordan |
Mar-15-07 02:55 PM |
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Now now now, you must know it is against DU rules to directly state whom. |
uppityperson |
Mar-15-07 03:01 PM |
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If the accusation is false. |
Ninja Jordan |
Mar-15-07 03:02 PM |
#123 |
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Who is being accused? |
uppityperson |
Mar-15-07 03:08 PM |
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I guess we'll never know |
Ninja Jordan |
Mar-15-07 03:09 PM |
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Must be "deleted". |
uppityperson |
Mar-15-07 03:13 PM |
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We'll leave that up to others to conclude |
Moochy |
Mar-15-07 03:35 PM |
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I'm not referencing anyone. I was replying to someone. |
cat_girl25 |
Mar-15-07 03:14 PM |
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Why are you curious? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Mar-15-07 03:36 PM |
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really, really stupid post |
paulk |
Mar-15-07 01:32 PM |
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Not as stupid as it taking 134 tries to get the words "homosexuality is not immoral" out. |
BlooInBloo |
Mar-15-07 03:26 PM |
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I've never found much use for morality |
paulk |
Mar-15-07 03:39 PM |
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Locking |
OhioBlues |
Mar-15-07 03:45 PM |
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